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RE: Supply - 3/28/2004 7:31:01 AM

bradfordkay

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I find myself encouraged that Mogami is averaging approximately 30 minute turns. I realize that for us humans (I'm convinced Mog is Vulcan) it will take longer to process a turn, but at least this gives me hope that I will be able to play at least one turn a night...

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RE: Supply - 3/28/2004 1:15:35 PM

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One of the reasons I'm dissappointed that the WITP game won't have a "team"
mode is that I think it's going to take more than one person to keep up with
Mogami by then.

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Troops and intel - 3/28/2004 2:49:54 PM

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Did you change you unit attachment in any way or did you keep the units attached to the army attached to historically?
There is one intel report. Do they only appear weekly or monthly or the like?

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restart - 3/28/2004 4:16:21 PM

mogami

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Hi, 915am est I begin a new turn 1 scenario 15 as Japan. Or would you like to try allies? (another tester?)

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RE: restart - 3/28/2004 10:37:43 PM

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I am a bit concerned that the ground combat is now a little too hard for the attacker. I do not want to go back to UV ground combat which was an attackers paradise, but this seems a little to WW1-ish.

Does the game system use up suuplies in Bataan at a more or less historical rate? In UV it sometimes seemed that you could take Port Moresby and the beach next door and have the entire allied garrison retreat to Wau and live for ever on the bit of supply they took with them.

I think you should play as the allies against the computer and let us see how that looks.

thanks,
Mike

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Air Raid Pearl Harbor! - 3/28/2004 11:02:13 PM

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Hi, Currently this is what you can expect if you play the Allies and use the historic turn 1

Air to Air 32-12
DOG 209-0
AA 2-24
Ops 4-0

BB Tennesee and Pennsylvania sunk (I believe 1 was lost to magazine explosion)
MSW Penguin lost to naval gunfire at Guam.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/07/41

Sub attack at 26,45

Japanese Ships
AK Nagara Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Hakozaki Maru
PC Ch 7
PG Tatsumiya Maru
MSW W.2
MSW W.1
PC Shimushu

Allied Ships
SS KXII, hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 20
Guns lost 1
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Air attack on Hong Kong , at 43,42

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 10
Ki-21 Sally x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on Kuala Lumpur , at 23,46

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 31

no losses

Aircraft Attacking:
31 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20
G3M Nell x 96

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 8 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 8 destroyed, 6 damaged
Swordfish: 2 destroyed
Vildebeest IV: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Blenheim IV: 3 destroyed

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
12 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
19 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
5 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on Naga , at 44,54

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 9
B5N Kate x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x B5N Kate bombing at 5000 feet
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Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 59
G3M Nell x 36
G4M1 Betty x 53

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 2
P-36A Mohawk x 3
P-40B Tomahawk x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 3

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-26A: 14 destroyed, 6 damaged
P-36A Mohawk: 8 destroyed, 9 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 13 destroyed, 7 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 10 destroyed, 10 damaged
B-17C Fortress: 3 destroyed, 13 damaged

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 103
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 20
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 126

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
13 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
9 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
16 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
10 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 31

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
10 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on Batan Island , at 47,47

Japanese aircraft
C5M Babs x 1
Ki-27 Nate x 15
Ki-48 Lily x 20
Ki-46-II Dinah x 2
Ki-15 Babs x 3
Ki-36 Ida x 1

no losses

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 112,68

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 76
D3A Val x 126
B5N Kate x 143

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 6
P-26A x 8
P-36A Mohawk x 3
P-40B Tomahawk x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 13 destroyed, 3 damaged
D3A Val: 11 destroyed, 40 damaged
B5N Kate: 7 destroyed, 38 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 8 destroyed, 2 damaged
P-26A: 10 destroyed
P-36A Mohawk: 24 destroyed, 23 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 46 destroyed, 27 damaged
PBY Catalina: 47 destroyed, 45 damaged
SBD Dauntless: 11 destroyed, 8 damaged
B-18A Bolo: 27 destroyed, 30 damaged
A-20B Boston: 6 destroyed, 12 damaged
B-17C Fortress: 6 destroyed, 13 damaged

Allied Ships
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 1, on fire
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AV Curtiss, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Helena, Bomb hits 2
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CA San Francisco, Bomb hits 1, on fire
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1
BB California, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Shaw, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL St. Louis, Bomb hits 1
SS Tautog, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Ward, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AO Neosho, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 105
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 49
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 151

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x A6M2 Zero attacking at 100 feet
14 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
27 x B5N Kate bombing at 9000 feet
14 x A6M2 Zero attacking at 100 feet
22 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
25 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
15 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
17 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
15 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
16 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
25 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
26 x B5N Kate bombing at 9000 feet
24 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
26 x B5N Kate bombing at 9000 feet
Air attack on Changsha , at 47,36

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 10
Ki-30 Ann x 6
Ki-15 Babs x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
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Air attack on Batan Island , at 47,47

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 13
Ki-30 Ann x 18

no losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 46,57

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 3

Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 12

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17C Fortress: 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryujo

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45

Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 2
Hudson I x 5

no losses

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna
BB Kongo

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Blenheim I bombing at 15000 feet
5 x Hudson I bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45

Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 9
Hudson I x 9

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 1 damaged
Hudson I: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna
BB Kongo

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Hudson I bombing at 15000 feet
9 x Blenheim I bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45

Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 3
Buffalo I x 21
Blenheim IV x 10

Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna
BB Kongo

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Swordfish bombing at 5000 feet
9 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Songkhia at 24,43

Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 16

no losses

Japanese Ships
CL Sendai

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Blenheim I bombing at 15000 feet
9 x Blenheim I bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45

Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 3
Blenheim IV x 3

Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 1 destroyed
Blenheim IV: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami
CA Suzuya

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Swordfish bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3

no losses

Japanese Ships
AK Sasako Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing at 15000 feet
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Naval bombardment of Khota Bharu, at 24,45

Allied aircraft

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 488
Guns lost 14

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 17
Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 7
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Naval bombardment of Guam, at 62,66

Allied Ships
MSW Penguin, Shell hits 10, on fire, heavy damage

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 11
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 3
Port supply hits 3
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Naval bombardment of Batan Island, at 47,47

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 109
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 2
Port hits 3
Port supply hits 5
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Naval bombardment of Khota Bharu, at 24,45

Allied aircraft

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 132
Guns lost 4

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 43
Port hits 6
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 10
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Naval bombardment of Vigan, at 44,49

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 48
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 22
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 6
Port supply hits 14
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Naval bombardment of Legaspi, at 44,55

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 113
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 22
Port hits 4
Port fuel hits 5
Port supply hits 6
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Naval bombardment of Aparri, at 46,49

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 113
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 13
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 8
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Naval bombardment of Aparri, at 46,49

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 129
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 15
Port hits 6
Port supply hits 11
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TF 20 troops unloading over beach at Guam, 62,66
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TF 85 troops unloading over beach at Khota Bharu, 24,45
Coastal Guns at Khota Bharu, 24,45, firing at TF 85
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TF 87 troops unloading over beach at Aparri, 46,49
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TF 88 troops unloading over beach at Vigan, 44,49
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TF 89 troops unloading over beach at Legaspi, 44,55
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TF 90 troops unloading over beach at Batan Island, 47,47
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Ground combat at Khota Bharu

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4735 troops, 36 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 8941 troops, 76 guns, 2 vehicles

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 6
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 2
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at Batan Island

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1783 troops, 16 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 460 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 138 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Batan Island base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 36
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 943
Guns lost 3
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SIG INT REPORT FOR 12/08/41

206300 men are based at Masan.
4th Construction Battalion is located at Mukden.
17th Hvy Field Artillery Regiment is located at Kagoshima.
124th IJA Base Force is located at Siemrem Reap.
56th Division is planning for an attack on Kuantan.
109th IJA Base Force is located at Kaigan.
16th Division is located at Amami.
8th Aviation Rgt is located at Chiamussu.
17th Reserve Coastal Artillery Regiment is located at Niigata.
Radio transmissions detected at Songkhia.
Radio transmissions detected at Songkhia.
Radio transmissions detected at Khota Bharu.
1st Reserve AA Regiment is located at Kyoto.
61st Construction Battalion is located at Kagoshima.
Radio transmissions detected at Khota Bharu.
18th Aviation Rgt is located at Taan.
Radio transmissions detected at Songkhia.
7384 men are based at Bonin.
235719 men are based at Kyoto.
Radio transmissions detected at Khota Bharu.

OPERATIONAL REPORT FOR 12/07/41

D3A Val sighting report: 1 Allied ship at 111,67 , Moving East
E13A1 Jake sighting report: 1 Allied ship at 25,47 , Moving East
Sighting report: 2 Japanese ships at 24,45 , Moving West
Sighting report: 2 Japanese ships at 62,66 , Moving Southwest
Sighting report: 2 Japanese ships at 47,47 , Moving Southwest
Sighting report: 2 Japanese ships at 24,45 , Moving West
Sighting report: 2 Japanese ships at 44,49 , Moving Southwest
Sighting report: 2 Japanese ships at 44,55 , Moving West
Sighting report: 2 Japanese ships at 46,49 , Moving Southwest
Sighting report: 3 Japanese ships at 46,49 , Moving Southwest
Sighting report: 4 Japanese ships at 62,66 , Moving Southwest
Sighting report: 4 Japanese ships at 24,45 , Moving West
Sighting report: 2 Japanese ships at 46,49 , Moving Southwest
Sighting report: 7 Japanese ships at 44,49 , Moving Southwest
Sighting report: 2 Japanese ships at 44,55 , Moving West
Sighting report: 3 Japanese ships at 47,47 , Moving Southwest
Catalina I sighting report: 1 Japanese ship at 24,43 , Moving West
OS2U-3 Kingfisher sighting report: 2 Japanese ships at 111,66 , Moving Southeast
OS2U-3 Kingfisher sighting report: 1 Japanese ship at 111,67 , Moving East
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of Yenen
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of Yenen
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of Hengchow
Ki-46-II Dinah takes recon photos of Hengchow
Ki-46-II Dinah takes recon photos of Hengchow
PO Tomlin S. of 243 Squadron is credited with kill number 2
ENS Kamihira P. of F1/Tainan Daitai is credited with kill number 3
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of Batan Island
Ki-46-II Dinah takes recon photos of Batan Island
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of Batan Island
Ki-36 Ida takes recon photos of Batan Island
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of Batan Island
Ki-46-II Dinah takes recon photos of Batan Island
C5M Babs takes recon photos of Batan Island
FO Jenkins P. of 18th FG is credited with kill number 3
Ki-36 Ida takes recon photos of 103rd USAAF Base Force
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of 48th Chinese Corps
C5M Babs takes recon photos of 82nd Chinese Corps
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of Hong Kong Fortress
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of Hong Kong Fortress
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of Hong Kong Fortress
C5M Babs takes recon photos of Hong Kong Fortress
C5M Babs takes recon photos of 8th Indian Brigade
Ki-46-II Dinah takes recon photos of No. 108 RAF Base Force
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of No. 108 RAF Base Force
PBY Catalina has spotted Natori at 46,49
PBY Catalina has spotted Shonan Maru #1 at 44,49
PBY Catalina has spotted Mizuho at 44,55
OS2U-3 Kingfisher sighting report: 1 Japanese ship at 111,67 , Moving East
SOC-3 Seagull sighting report: 1 Japanese ship at 111,70 , Moving East
SOC-3 Seagull sighting report: 1 Japanese ship at 110,69 , Moving East
SOC-3 Seagull sighting report: 2 Japanese ships at 111,70 , Moving East
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of Yenen
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of Changsha
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of Changsha
Ki-46-II Dinah takes recon photos of Kweilin
Ki-46-II Dinah takes recon photos of Kweilin
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of Vigan
C5M Babs takes recon photos of Vigan
Ki-36 Ida takes recon photos of Aparri
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of 106th USAAF Base Force
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of 106th USAAF Base Force
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of 16th Chinese Corps
C5M Babs takes recon photos of 8th Indian Brigade
Ki-46-II Dinah takes recon photos of No. 107 RAF Base Force
Ki-15 Babs takes recon photos of No. 107 RAF Base Force
C5M Babs takes recon photos of 7th Chinese Air Base Force
CA Minneapolis arrives at Pearl Harbor
DMS Hovey arrives at Pearl Harbor
DMS Boggs arrives at Pearl Harbor
DMS Lamberton arrives at Pearl Harbor
DMS Chandler arrives at Pearl Harbor
SC SC-630 arrives at San Francisco
AK Shooting Star arrives at San Francisco
2nd USMC Para Battalion arrives at San Diego

< Message edited by Mogami -- 3/28/2004 4:01:15 PM >

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RE: Air Raid Pearl Harbor! - 3/29/2004 12:54:39 AM

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In the above turn did any of the US BB's at pearl actualy wind up sinking?

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RE: Air Raid Pearl Harbor! - 3/29/2004 4:32:26 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Brady

In the above turn did any of the US BB's at pearl actualy wind up sinking?

His report says two of them did (including the Pennsylvania in drydock---which
still seems pretty strange)

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RE: Air Raid Pearl Harbor! - 3/29/2004 4:52:42 AM

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I believe they said that the coding was just immpossible to make the Pennsylvania unsinkible in drydock (consider it just so messed up it isn't worth fixing) the other problem with the attack is that the BB on the inside row couldn't have been torpedoed, there was another ship in the way, but I guess coding that would be a nightmare too

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RE: Air Raid Pearl Harbor! - 3/29/2004 6:59:41 AM

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quote:

the other problem with the attack is that the BB on the inside row couldn't have been torpedoed, there was another ship in the way, but I guess coding that would be a nightmare too

Yeah, that bothered me when I first started reading AARs from WITP, then I decided that it wasn't a battle worth fighting. It's an abstraction that I can accept. Now if they had twenty years to develop the game we could beg for the ability to zoom the view down to watching the a/c take off the carriers and follow them to their targets, all of which would take place on a 3d map of the world with a working weather/tide model. I'll happily accept the UV engine...

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RE: Air Raid Pearl Harbor! - 3/30/2004 3:38:43 AM

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quote:

Yeah, that bothered me when I first started reading AARs from WITP, then I decided that it wasn't a battle worth fighting. It's an abstraction that I can accept. Now if they had twenty years to develop the game we could beg for the ability to zoom the view down to watching the a/c take off the carriers and follow them to their targets, all of which would take place on a 3d map of the world with a working weather/tide model. I'll happily accept the UV engine...

Oh....you don't want that? Ok...its cut. Too bad it was really cool.

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RE: Air Raid Pearl Harbor! - 3/30/2004 7:52:14 AM

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Ship Arrivals

I saw reports of the allied ship arrivals at both San Fran and Pearl Harbor, what other ports do allied ships arrive at?

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RE: Air Raid Pearl Harbor! - 3/30/2004 12:08:10 PM

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Hi, Nothing unexpected.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/08/41

TF 20 troops unloading over beach at Guam, 62,66
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TF 85 troops unloading over beach at Khota Bharu, 24,45
Coastal Guns at Khota Bharu, 24,45, firing at TF 85
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TF 87 troops unloading over beach at Aparri, 46,49
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TF 88 troops unloading over beach at Vigan, 44,49
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TF 20 troops unloading over beach at Guam, 62,66
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TF 85 troops unloading over beach at Khota Bharu, 24,45
Coastal Guns at Khota Bharu, 24,45, firing at TF 85
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TF 87 troops unloading over beach at Aparri, 46,49
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TF 88 troops unloading over beach at Vigan, 44,49
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ASW attack at 45,56

Japanese Ships
DD Amatsukaze
DD Hayashio
DD Natsushio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Oyashio
DD Kuroshio

Allied Ships
SS S-39
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Naval bombardment of Guam, at 62,66

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 4
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Naval bombardment of Vigan, at 44,49

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 31
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 38
Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 4
Port supply hits 16
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Naval bombardment of Legaspi, at 44,55

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 12

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 11
Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 3
Port supply hits 2
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Naval bombardment of Aparri, at 46,49

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 12

Runway hits 4
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 4
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Naval bombardment of Aparri, at 46,49

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 75

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 4
Port supply hits 6
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TF 20 troops unloading over beach at Guam, 62,66
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TF 85 troops unloading over beach at Khota Bharu, 24,45
Coastal Guns at Khota Bharu, 24,45, firing at TF 85
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TF 87 troops unloading over beach at Aparri, 46,49
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TF 88 troops unloading over beach at Vigan, 44,49
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Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45

Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 3

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 46,56

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 5
B5N Kate x 8

no losses

Allied Ships
AK Taurus, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Elcano, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20
G4M1 Betty x 9

Allied aircraft

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed
Vildebeest IV: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 12

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on 4th New Chinese Corps, at 49,37

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 16
Ki-51 Sonia x 25

no losses

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 56
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
9 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Air attack on 4th New Chinese Corps, at 49,37

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 4
Ki-21 Sally x 13

no losses

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 35

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 12000 feet
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Air attack on 4th New Chinese Corps, at 49,37

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 14

no losses

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 26
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 14000 feet
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Air attack on 4th New Chinese Corps, at 49,37

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22
G4M1 Betty x 12

no losses

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 65
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 13000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 19000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 13000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 19000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45

Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 5

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Kumano
CA Mikuma

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45

Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 6

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 6 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami
CA Suzuya

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 43,55

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 5
B5N Kate x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied Ships
DE Tulsa

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Ground combat at Legaspi

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 2541 troops, 15 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 462 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 34 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Legaspi base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 25

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 10
Guns lost 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
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Ground combat at Guam

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 7179 troops, 87 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 294 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Guam base !!!
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Ground combat at Nanchang

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 26902 troops, 267 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 7193 troops, 47 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 68 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 11

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 262
Guns lost 10

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
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Ground combat at Hong Kong

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 22590 troops, 255 guns, 17 vehicles

Defending force 13263 troops, 122 guns, 4 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 6)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 5

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 105
Guns lost 5
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 161
Guns lost 9

Ground combat at Vigan

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 9669 troops, 163 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 531 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 1082 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Vigan base !!!

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 7

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
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Ground combat at Khota Bharu

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 18513 troops, 231 guns, 14 vehicles

Defending force 7319 troops, 37 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Khota Bharu base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 154
Guns lost 5

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 118
Guns lost 4

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
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Ground combat at Aparri

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 10274 troops, 172 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 170 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 55 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Aparri base !!!

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
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SIG INT REPORT FOR 12/09/41

Radio transmissions detected at Camranh Bay.
Radio transmissions detected at Camranh Bay.
Radio transmissions detected at Kwajalein.
Radio transmissions detected at Camranh Bay.
Radio transmissions detected at Palau.
14th Mortar Battalion is located at Taan.
13th Tank Regiment is located at Wuhan.
Imperial Guards Division is planning for an attack on Victoria Point.
Radio transmissions detected at 83,84.
Radio transmissions detected at Camranh Bay.
Radio transmissions detected at Camranh Bay.
Radio transmissions detected at Camranh Bay.
Radio transmissions detected at Camranh Bay.
5th Reserve AA Regiment is located at Taejon.
35th Brigade is planning for an attack on Kuching.
15th Mixed Brigade is located at 54,30.
22nd Heavy AA Battalion is located at Wuhan.
Radio transmissions detected at Aparri.
Radio transmissions detected at Truk.
121st IJN Base Force is located at Taan.

OPERATIONAL REPORT FOR 12/08/41

Sighting report: 5 Japanese ships at 43,54 , Speed 21 , Moving Northwest
Sighting report: 2 Japanese ships at 62,66 , Speed 15 , Moving Southwest
Sighting report: 9 Japanese ships at 24,45 , Speed 17 , Moving West
Sighting report: 5 Japanese ships at 62,66 , Speed 3 , Moving Southwest
Sighting report: 9 Japanese ships at 24,45 , Speed 5 , Moving West
Sighting report: 8 Japanese ships at 46,49 , Speed 7 , Moving Southwest
Sighting report: 9 Japanese ships at 44,49 , Speed 7 , Moving Southwest
SOC-3 Seagull sighting report: 1 Japanese ship at 110,70 , Speed 11 , Moving Southwest

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RE: Air Raid Pearl Harbor! - 3/30/2004 5:53:35 PM

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2 RN DD sunk by air attack near Bataan. (moving from Hong Kong to Manila)

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/09/41

Air attack on Kuantan , at 24,47

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 15
Ki-21 Sally x 20
Ki-48 Lily x 41
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1
Ki-15 Babs x 9

Allied aircraft

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48 Lily: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 26

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
9 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 18000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
8 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 18000 feet
4 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 18000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 18000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 42,51

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 9
B5N Kate x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Scout
DD Thanet

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 42,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
G4M1 Betty x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 6 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Thanet
DD Scout

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 42,51

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Scout
DD Thracian, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Cagayan at 42,59

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DE Tulsa

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
9 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on Hong Kong , at 43,42

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 4
Ki-51 Sonia x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 3 destroyed, 11 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
G3M Nell x 9

Allied aircraft

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 10 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Vildebeest IV: 2 destroyed

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G3M Nell bombing at 9000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 42,51

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 9
B5N Kate x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Scout, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 42,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
G4M1 Betty x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 5 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Thanet
DD Scout, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 42,51

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Thanet
DD Scout, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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10 Dec 1941 - 3/30/2004 6:25:57 PM

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I-boat goes after Lexington.... Dies trying.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/10/41

TF 15 troops unloading over beach at Makin, 85,89
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ASW attack at 48,46

Japanese Ships
DD Hatakaze
DD Nagatsuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Minazuki
DD Satsuki
CL Natori

Allied Ships
SS Seawolf
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Air attack on Moulmein , at 29,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 19
Ki-21 Sally x 31
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 16000 feet
24 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 14000 feet
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Air attack on Georgetown , at 23,44

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 12
Ki-48 Lily x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48 Lily: 2 damaged

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 12000 feet
12 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 14000 feet
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Air attack on Changsha , at 47,36

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 16
Ki-51 Sonia x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Air attack on Hong Kong , at 43,42

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
Ki-48 Lily x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48 Lily: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 5

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 11000 feet
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Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21
G4M1 Betty x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 17000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 17000 feet
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Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
G4M1 Betty x 17

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 16000 feet
8 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 16000 feet
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Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
G4M1 Betty x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
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Air attack on Laoag , at 45,49

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
Ki-30 Ann x 20
Ki-48 Lily x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 5
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
12 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 11000 feet
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ASW attack at 104,79

Japanese Ships
SS I-17, hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Porter
DD Flusser
DD Lamson
DD Drayton
DD Mahan
CA Chicago
CV Lexington
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Sub attack at 29,54

Japanese Ships
AP Kaihei Maru, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS O19

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 108
Guns lost 2
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Naval bombardment of Naga, at 44,54

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 20
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 6
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 2
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ASW attack at 48,46

Japanese Ships
DD Harukaze
DD Nagatsuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Minazuki
DD Satsuki

Allied Ships
SS Seawolf

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ASW attack at 104,79

Japanese Ships
SS I-175, hits 2, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Porter
DD Flusser
DD Lamson
DD Drayton
DD Mahan
CA Portland
CV Lexington
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Ground combat at Hong Kong

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 40758 troops, 457 guns, 16 vehicles

Defending force 13052 troops, 114 guns, 4 vehicles

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 198
Guns lost 7

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 381
Guns lost 17

Ground combat at Makin

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1251 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 18 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Makin base !!!
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RE: Air Raid Pearl Harbor! - 3/30/2004 7:58:49 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mogami

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Air attack on 4th New Chinese Corps, at 49,37

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 4
Ki-21 Sally x 13

greetings,
sorry to interupt AAR, but those Tojo's makes me little bit confused.

Isn't little bit to early for Tojo?
I've checked several sources and found no use of Tojo in the 1941...actually, there is only few prototyps in late 1941 but it is Ki-44-I...

"The pre-production aircraft and two of the prototypes (which had been brought up to pre-production standard) were turned over to the Army for service trials on September 15, 1941. They were handed over to an experimental squadron, the Kawasemi Butai, for service trials. The unit was sent to China for combat trials, and in May 1942 was renamed 47th Dokuritsu Dai Chijugo Chutai. In September of 1942, all tests were completed and the type was accepted for service with the JAAF.

Three variants of the Model 1 were produced, the Ki-44-Ia, Ib, and Ic. They differed primarily in armament and in minor equipment changes. The Ki-44-Ia was fitted with 2 7.7-mm machine guns in the fuselage and two 12.7 mm machine guns in the wings. The Ki-44-Ib was armed with four 12.7-mm machine guns (two in the fuselage, two in the wings), and had the oil cooler moved to a position under the cowling gills. The Ki-44-Ic had similar armament to the Ib, but had the lower hinged portions of the main wheel fairings moved from the landing gear legs to the fuselage.

The Shoki was first encountered by the Allies over China. It was assigned the code name Tojo by Allied intelligence working in that theatre. This name was a departure from the standard Allied coding convention, in which boys' names were assigned to Japanese fighters. However, a special request was made that the Tojo name should be allowed to stick, and all coordinating Allied intelligence agencies readily agreed.

Only 40 production Ki-44-Is were built before production was shifted to the more-powerful Ki-44-II variant in October of 1942. "

Am I missed something?

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RE: Air Raid Pearl Harbor! - 3/30/2004 8:19:17 PM

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Hi you answered your own question. The unit in China has 9 aircraft. The model is not in production so there are no replacements. WITP uses the -II model because there is no major difference between -I and -II.
The game has to do alot of abstraction in places. Here we have a model that did not enter production till late 1942 doing a field service test.

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RE: Air Raid Pearl Harbor! - 3/30/2004 9:02:58 PM

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I really like this idea

where the Japanese get to use proto-type aircraft in small numbers in actual combat before starting production. Hopefully this will help you decide which aircraft types to put into production.

Question:
What happens to future air groups if you never put a their aircraft types into production? Let's say you build KI-44 's instead of KI-43's what happens to all of those air groups that were supposed to have KI-43s???

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Aircraft upgrades - 3/30/2004 9:10:05 PM

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Hi, The aircraft a group (Japanese or Allied) can fly is limited to the type they arrive on map with and the type they are allowed to change (upgrade) to. You cannot retro fit an airgroup that has upgraded and you cannot change the model the group is allowed to upgrade to. In some cases I select "do not upgrade" and then continue building 1 model rather then begin building a newer one (This applies mainly to Japanese transport groups where the newer aircraft have a much shorter range then the type being flown at start. Range is more important to me then the increased load) Most Ki-27 Nate groups upgrade to the Ki-43-II (a few upgrade to Ki-43-I) there are a few that upgrade to Ki-44. The A6M2 upgrade to A6M3 (and then A6M5)

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great! - 3/30/2004 10:29:30 PM

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Thx for clarification and additional help /tips/hints (as always you do

.

If i'm not getting too greedy, did you make experiment with Ki-44-II (IIIb,c if it presented in game) performance against B-29. From what I know Tojo (Shoki) was best option against B-29?

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RE: great! - 3/30/2004 11:51:28 PM

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quote:

What happens to future air groups if you never put a their aircraft types into production? Let's say you build KI-44 's instead of KI-43's what happens to all of those air groups that were supposed to have KI-43s???

Mogami

Thanks, but this didn't answer my question, what happens to newly arriving airgroups if you don't build their type of aircraft. If I decide to build Ki-44's instead of Ki-43's, ok the ki-27 air groups would be able to upgrade, but what about newly arriving airgroups ones that have not been formed yet? Will future arriving air groups equip with the new producted aircraft or will they still be waiting for Ki-43s? I am concerned there maybe a issue if you change aircraft production to something non-historical due to the fixed aircraft paths.

If you disband the ki-27's would they be allowed to reform with a new aircraft type??

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RE: great! - 3/31/2004 12:01:41 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: pad152

quote:

What happens to future air groups if you never put a their aircraft types into production? Let's say you build KI-44 's instead of KI-43's what happens to all of those air groups that were supposed to have KI-43s???

Mogami

Thanks, but this didn't answer my question, what happens to newly arriving airgroups if you don't build their type of aircraft. If I decide to build Ki-44's instead of Ki-43's, ok the ki-27 air groups would be able to upgrade, but what about newly arriving airgroups ones that have not been formed yet? Will future arriving air groups equip with the new producted aircraft or will they still be waiting for Ki-43s? I am concerned there maybe a issue if you change aircraft production to something non-historical due to the fixed aircraft paths.

If you disband the ki-27's would they be allowed to reform with a new aircraft type??

If I get your question right, the answer is the air group will simply sit 1 turn away forever until you have something available for them to fly that is part of their upgrade path. This is not always a bad thing ... as it keeps pilots from being assigned to useless units that you didn't want anyways. I believe it will look backwards 1 type and forwards 2 types for locating aircraft. if you have none of all 4, the group doesn't form. (don't quote me on this, as to actually cause this, we are talking about multiple years of game play).

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17 Dec 1941 - 4/1/2004 12:31:17 PM

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Hi, Leap forward 1 week.

Current air stats
A2A 45-36
DOG 268-0
AA 6-38
Ops 8-52
Total 327-126
Sortie 4885-27,934

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/17/41

TF 20 troops unloading over beach at Rabaul, 61,88
Coastal Guns at Rabaul, 61,88, firing at TF 20
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TF 20 troops unloading over beach at Rabaul, 61,88
Coastal Guns at Rabaul, 61,88, firing at TF 20
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Sub attack at 45,56

Japanese Ships
AK Yamaura Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
SS S-3
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TF 147 troops unloading over beach at Menado, 39,67 I'm going to try to disrupt this with a TF of Allied surface ships.
Coastal Guns at Menado, 39,67, firing at TF 147
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TF 20 troops unloading over beach at Rabaul, 61,88
Coastal Guns at Rabaul, 61,88, firing at TF 20
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TF 147 troops unloading over beach at Menado, 39,67
Coastal Guns at Menado, 39,67, firing at TF 147
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ASW attack at 45,47

Japanese Ships
MSW Choun Maru #7

Allied Ships
SS Skipjack

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Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 21

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 6 destroyed, 3 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 16000 feet
10 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 16000 feet
Air attack on Kuantan , at 24,47

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 16
Ki-48 Lily x 58
Ki-46-II Dinah x 3
Ki-15 Babs x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48 Lily: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 25
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 9000 feet
11 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 19000 feet
18 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 19000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 9000 feet
6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 9000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 19000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 19000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 9000 feet
Air attack on TF at 22,48

Allied aircraft
Vildebeest IV x 2

Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest IV: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Sasako Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Air attack on TF at 23,51

Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 4
Buffalo I x 21
Vildebeest IV x 17
Blenheim I x 8
Blenheim IV x 7

Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest IV: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
PG Myoken Maru, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
PG Kiso Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Azumasan Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
2 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
4 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
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Air attack on 2nd ISF Base Force, at 24,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
G3M Nell x 19
G4M1 Betty x 11

no losses

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 76

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 17000 feet
8 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 16000 feet
13 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
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Air attack on 15th Indian Brigade, at 24,44

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 13
G4M1 Betty x 3

no losses

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 60
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 17000 feet
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Air attack on 71st PA Division, at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21
G4M1 Betty x 21

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 3
P-36A Mohawk x 3
P-40B Tomahawk x 3
P-40E Warhawk x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-26A: 2 destroyed
P-36A Mohawk: 1 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 68
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 18000 feet
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 7

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Empire Defiance

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 16000 feet
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Ground combat at Vigan

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 37941 troops, 456 guns, 20 vehicles

Defending force 338 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 545 to 1

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 90
Guns lost 2
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Ground combat at Rabaul

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7804 troops, 85 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1863 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 170
Guns lost 6

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 118
Guns lost 2

Ground combat at Alor Star

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 19860 troops, 238 guns, 107 vehicles

Defending force 7134 troops, 36 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 303
Guns lost 9
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 130
Guns lost 3

Ground combat at Kuantan

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 18721 troops, 225 guns, 15 vehicles

Defending force 8650 troops, 72 guns, 2 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 27 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kuantan base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 216
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 95
Guns lost 5

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
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Ground combat at Menado

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1290 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1406 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 17
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Ground combat at Rabaul

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 726 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 7608 troops, 79 guns, 0 vehicles
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RE: 18 Dec 1941 - 4/1/2004 1:00:26 PM

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A2A last turn 7-20 (7xP-40B and 15 Japanese fighters and 5 bombers)

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/18/41

TF 138 troops unloading over beach at Jolo, 38,59
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Sub attack at 31,55

Japanese Ships
AP Amakusa Maru
MSW Wa 3
AK Heiei Maru #7

Allied Ships
SS O20
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Sub attack at 49,45

Japanese Ships
AK Toten Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Sealion
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Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 14
A6M2 Zero x 22
C5M Babs x 3
Ki-27 Nate x 21
Ki-21 Sally x 39

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A5M4 Claude: 3 destroyed
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-27 Nate: 3 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 12 destroyed, 5 damaged

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 36
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 14000 feet
12 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 14000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
Air attack on TF at 22,50

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 6

no losses

Japanese Ships
AK Sasako Maru, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 22,50

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 21
Vildebeest IV x 20

Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest IV: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
PG Kiso Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Azumasan Maru, Torpedo hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 32

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 9000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 9000 feet
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Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
G4M1 Betty x 44

no losses

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 68
Guns lost 1

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 14000 feet
20 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 14000 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 14000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on 21st PA Division, at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 15

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 3
P-36A Mohawk x 5
P-40B Tomahawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 9 damaged

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 66

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Menado at 39,67

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3

no losses

Japanese Ships
AP Ayaha Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 9
A6M2 Zero x 18
Ki-27 Nate x 23
Ki-21 Sally x 6

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
A5M4 Claude: 2 destroyed
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-27 Nate: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Empire Defiance

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
Sub attack at 48,46

Japanese Ships
AP Kuretake Maru, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Saury, hits 1
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Sub attack at 36,54

Japanese Ships
AP Hokuriku Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS KXIV

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 65
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Ground combat at Rabaul

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 7695 troops, 80 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1602 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Rabaul base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 121
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 51
Guns lost 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
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RE: 19 Dec 1941 - 4/1/2004 1:29:16 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/19/41

Sub attack at 25,47

Japanese Ships
AK Iwashiro Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS KXIII
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Sub attack at 25,45

Japanese Ships
AK Azuchisan Maru, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS KXVII, hits 1
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Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 17
Ki-21 Sally x 27
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 4 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 11 destroyed, 6 damaged

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 70
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 25

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 12000 feet
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Air attack on Georgetown , at 23,44

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 25
Ki-48 Lily x 56
Ki-46-II Dinah x 4
Ki-15 Babs x 7

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 7

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 27

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 18000 feet
15 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 13000 feet
8 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 13000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 18000 feet
4 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 18000 feet
4 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 13000 feet
4 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 13000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 18000 feet
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Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 30
Ki-30 Ann x 30
Ki-21 Sally x 16
Ki-48 Lily x 6
Ki-15 Babs x 1
Ki-36 Ida x 2

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 3
P-36A Mohawk x 6
P-40B Tomahawk x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-30 Ann: 6 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 18

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
30 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
16 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 23,51

Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 4
Buffalo I x 2
Vildebeest IV x 2
Blenheim I x 11

no losses

Japanese Ships
AK Yagi Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Kuantan at 24,47

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 19
Vildebeest IV x 11
Blenheim IV x 6

no losses

Japanese Ships
TK Kaijo Maru #2
AK Hikosan Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 5000 feet
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Air attack on Changsha , at 47,36

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 19
Ki-51 Sonia x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Air attack on Wuchow , at 42,39

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 9
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 5
Ki-51 Sonia x 21

no losses

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 7000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 22,48

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 17
Blenheim IV x 6

no losses

Japanese Ships
AK Azumasan Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
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Ground combat at Menado

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1310 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1983 troops, 13 guns, 4 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Menado base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 68
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 3564
Guns lost 13
Vehicles lost 1

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Ground combat at Alor Star

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 19500 troops, 221 guns, 106 vehicles

Defending force 9324 troops, 50 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 256
Guns lost 9

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 134
Guns lost 5
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Ground combat at 23,47

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 18520 troops, 215 guns, 15 vehicles

Defending force 6281 troops, 55 guns, 1 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 11 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 104
Guns lost 4

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 142
Guns lost 4

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
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Ground combat at Jolo

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 2292 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 841 troops, 6 guns, 1 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Jolo base !!!

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 986
Guns lost 2
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RE: 19 Dec 1941 - 4/1/2004 7:53:49 PM

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Hi Mogami
With all the action going on in this game is there an enhancement to the combat
action to allow for pausing and replaying or continuing the action to allow for studying
the theater of operation?

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RE: 19 Dec 1941 - 4/1/2004 8:29:17 PM

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Hi, No just the old set the delay option at the start. You can set a long delay and then if it goes too slow hit "Z" to speed it up.

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RE: 19 Dec 1941 - 4/1/2004 8:45:16 PM

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you can also toggle off and on the Combat Summaries and Graphics Animations during execution of the turn should you be so inclined.

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RE: 19 Dec 1941 - 4/1/2004 10:14:57 PM

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Looks interesting. Seems like they did some nice enhancements to the game. The Combat Reports include a lot more info than UV as well, in good ways (particularly as I've read that in PBEM the combat report is 'real' while the replay may not be).

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Post #: 89

RE: Supply - 4/6/2004 1:50:40 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

I find myself encouraged that Mogami is averaging approximately 30 minute turns. I realize that for us humans (I'm convinced Mog is Vulcan) it will take longer to process a turn, but at least this gives me hope that I will be able to play at least one turn a night...

The first turn takes the longest, depending on the amount of detail you want to sink in changing squadron's options, rebasing ships, and getting things moving the way you want them. From then whether you run single or multiday turns you'll only have real long turns when you're planning something major that takes time. For the most part once turn 1 is gone all your little plans and actions seem to spread out. TFs arrive at different times, land units take time to move depending on the terrain so you're not fighting all across the map on any given turn and not every squadron you have to go check and change it's options. Good use of the combat report and operations report should help you from having to check every base every turn.

I've found that I hit lulls in the action, where I only have to give orders in 3 or 4 areas as in the other area nothing is going on but waiting on TFs to arrive. So after playing a few times to get use to the scope and how to play, plan on the first turn taking several hrs 1 night or spead out over several days, but once you get into the flow you can get 2 to 3 turns in the same amount time depending on what's going on. At least from my experience playing the allies that is true. The Japanese have more to do early on.

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