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RE: Me no understand... - 5/3/2004 4:53:59 AM   
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Don't mess with the aussies!!!
Fosters is definitly better than Miller!
I am german, and if there is one thing we know better than starting world wars, it is beer!!!

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RE: Me no understand... - 5/3/2004 5:35:23 AM   
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Don't mess with the aussies!!!
Fosters is definitly better than Miller!
I am german, and if there is one thing we know better than starting world wars, it is beer!!!


You got no problem staring them its the finshing part you stumble on.


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RE: Me no understand... - 5/3/2004 5:44:58 AM   
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Ok, since Raver si dicking around and doesn't have ADSL yet (better option with Iprimus than Telstra) I'd better inform you on the turn and what is happening with Dandriff.

Well, initially dandriff stalled - completely - because I had tried to load up WAY too many supplies from a particular base onto transports and the transports weren't going to leave untli they were full and the base wasn't making that many supplies per turn (and my starving troops on land weren't too happy about it either). After a few quick beheadings and a bit of red tape cutting, I got that transport group underway.

Now please understand - this transport group is not totally vital to Dandriff (after all, Dandriff is a collection of several seperate operations) it is just that without them one part of dandriff would stall (and I want them all happening simultaneously to try and overstretch Raver's defences).

Also - if one part of Dandriff gets detected too early, Raver will react to that one, and my other three operations won't be nearly as useful.

The aim: To force Raver (especially his cvs) into a fight, either to prevent invasions to protect his shipping. Kido Butai has long been split up into two divisions, but they've also been reinforced, and are backed up in a few cases by lots and lots of LBA.

Raver's boys at singapore (this turn) spotted a CV tf with several bbs, a few transports and Tankers departing Saigon, headed towards singapore. Raver's boys launched almost 40 bombers at this group - but the CAP of claudes (and a few zeros ;) ) met them and gave them a spanking. Most of Raver's level bombers got off with damage, but he lost 15 swordfish. Gotta love it.

Who knows where this little group is headed? Malaya? Singapore? DEI? Or maybe even into the indian ocean??? It isn't a real strong CV group - but it is able to put up a more than big enough CAP (and 40 kates) so I'm not worried about the LBA.

Other operations won't be revealed until Raver has spotted them (can't let the cat out of the bag too early).

Where are those juicy CVs??

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RE: Me no understand... - 5/3/2004 6:40:11 AM   
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I am stuck at work for the next 5 hours or so but what ever bannananananana boy is up to will be bad news for me. He has a bad habit of spring traps that tend to hurt. However I am sure that I will rise to the challenge and whip his yellow (bananananananana skin) arse!

Where indeed are my CVs? Frag has given me a great idea and so soon I will be popping up where Luskan least expects me ! Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!




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RE: Me no understand... - 5/3/2004 7:08:49 AM   
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If that lunatic is coming for the home islands he is going to get a nasty shock (notice the lack of nells,oscars and zeros around lately??

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RE: Me no understand... - 5/3/2004 2:54:27 PM   
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The ASW continues as nasty as ever this turn - only for a nice change around pearl my subs have hit back at Raver's dd groups (those dds really stung me really badly the last few turns - especially when Raver's groups seriously just pick a hex or two a couple of hexes out of pearl (south west or north east) or so and they just SIT there TURN AFTER TURN droppin depth charge after depth charge and the lunatic in charge of my subs (the AI atm) sends them AFTER the asw tf. At least this turn it worked. However, now there are 3 subs in the same hex, and within 10 turns they'll all be fish food.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/24/41

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Sub attack at 33,47

Japanese Ships
AP Josho Maru, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Truant

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ASW attack at 58,47

Japanese Ships
AP Ceylon Maru
PC Ch 15
PC Shonan Maru #17
PG Magan Maru
PG Kongosan Maru
PG Hayakafuku Maru
PC Ishigaki
PC Kunashiri
PC Hachijo

Allied Ships
SS Argonaut, heavy damage

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Sub attack at 111,70

Japanese Ships
SS I-8

Allied Ships
DD Chew, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Litchfield
DD Schley
DD Ward

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Coastal Guns at Menado, 39,67, firing at TF 95
TF 95 troops unloading over beach at Menado, 39,67


1200 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
CL Kashima
PG Keijo Maru
PG Choan Maru #2
PG Takunan Maru #10
PG Seikai Maru, Shell hits 2
PG Heijo Maru

Japanese ground losses:
335 casualties reported

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Sub attack at 111,69

Japanese Ships
SS I-22

Allied Ships
DD Chew, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

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Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45


Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 2


no losses

Japanese Ships
CL Sendai

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Wirraway bombing at 2000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45


Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 3


no losses

Japanese Ships
DD Uranami

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 22,50 Raver's boys at Singapore - unfazed by loosing so many swordfish last turn, have a go at my superior exp pilots and their superior planes on CAP as my TFs enter the Malacca straits (they've passed Singapore during the night). Indian ocean here they come. (Go Dandriff!!)

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 30
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 3
Buffalo I x 11
Vildebeest IV x 18
Blenheim I x 6
Blenheim IV x 6
Hudson I x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A5M4 Claude: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Buffalo I: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged
Vildebeest IV: 14 destroyed, 4 damaged
Blenheim I: 1 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged
Hudson I: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVE Taiyo
BB Ise
CVL Zuiho
BB Nagato
BB Hyuga
CVE Hosho
CVL Ryujo

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45


Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 3
Hudson I x 3


no losses

Japanese Ships
AK Yagi Maru
AK Uyo Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 31,72

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
G4M1 Betty x 15

no losses

Allied Ships
TK Angelina, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Air attack on Taiping , at 23,45

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 21
Ki-48 Lily x 49
Ki-15 Babs x 1

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 3

no losses

no losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
12 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
18 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
10 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on Tuguegarao , at 46,50

Japanese aircraft
C5M Babs x 1
Ki-30 Ann x 27
Ki-15 Babs x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45


Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 2


no losses

Japanese Ships
DD Yugiri

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Wirraway bombing at 2000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45


Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 7
Blenheim I x 4
Blenheim IV x 5
Hudson I x 3


no losses

Japanese Ships
DD Usugumo
DD Murakumo
DD Shikinami

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet

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Ground combat at 40,61 - Raver's stranded troops on mindanao - waiting for the final blow (they're surrounded, next turn or the turn after this will all end).

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1268 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1922 troops, 9 guns, 0 vehicles



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Ground combat at Naga - he outnumbers me here a little bit.

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8319 troops, 82 guns, 19 vehicles

Defending force 11895 troops, 131 guns, 7 vehicles



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Ground combat at Menado wont be long until its mine mine mine (plenty more troops disembarking for Raver's guns to masascre).

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1391 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 2905 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles



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Ground combat at Tuguegarao Reinforcements on the way.

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7939 troops, 50 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 11503 troops, 155 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Naga - reinforcements on the way.

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5759 troops, 58 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 10810 troops, 87 guns, 19 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
28 casualties reported

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RE: Me no understand... - 5/3/2004 6:57:11 PM   
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C5M Babs x 1
Ki-30 Ann x 27
Ki-15 Babs x 3


Ok, where both the C5M and Ki-15 called "Babs"?

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RE: Me no understand... - 5/3/2004 7:09:42 PM   
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I believe the C5M was the navy version and the Ki-15, the army version of the same plane.

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RE: Me no understand... - 5/4/2004 4:42:54 AM   
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Ah so operation Dandy-riff is a sweep of the Indian Ocean eh? Well Bananananana boy is not going to find anything of value there as I sailed most of the British fleet south to Perth in preparation of a new operation in the DEI. So there is nothing in India apart from curry-munchers Hahahaha!

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RE: Me no understand... - 5/4/2004 6:06:51 AM   
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Dandriff has several simulatneous ops across the map. Don't think I didn't remember last game you stockpiled at Perth ;) You've only seen a third of Dandriff's stage 1.

Of course, you might have saved up enough political points to save lots of troops out of the DEI (hope not). Probably not a lot I can do to mess that up (maybe steal another airfield and move more betties and zeros in).

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RE: Me no understand... - 5/4/2004 7:06:41 AM   
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My thoughts on Operation Dandriff:


All talk and no action. I'll believe it when I see it.

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RE: Me no understand... - 5/4/2004 8:00:09 AM   
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It does seem a little flakey, doesn't it.

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RE: Me no understand... - 5/4/2004 9:49:24 AM   
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It certainly leaves me scratching my head.....

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RE: Me no understand... - 5/4/2004 10:28:25 AM   
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Dave,
I think that your careless remark has just sentenced Perth to a rather unpleasant experience.

Remember "Loose Lips sink ships"....

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RE: Me no understand... - 5/4/2004 11:00:00 AM   
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could operation Drandriff actually be an invasion of Perth me wonders

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RE: Me no understand... - 5/4/2004 11:15:50 AM   
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I just dont know Doomed....

But the suspense is killing me.

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RE: Me no understand... - 5/4/2004 11:28:01 AM   
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He is invading Seattle to destroy the Boeing plant. (city attack from CV against aircraft factories)

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RE: Me no understand... - 5/4/2004 11:58:08 AM   
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He is invading Seattle to destroy the Boeing plant. (city attack from CV against aircraft factories)


At last, a voice of reason!

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RE: Me no understand... - 5/4/2004 12:27:58 PM   
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All will be revealed in the fullness of time (especially since Raver's float plane deployments are so crap).

I do have plans for perth, but they for a much later stage of dandriff. besides - Doomed has experienced the most important part of operation dandriff already (I tested it on him first - worked like a charm - although it probably won't happen that way vs Raver, depending on where his cvs are).

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RE: Me no understand... - 5/4/2004 1:02:04 PM   
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Ah I know what he's up to now

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RE: Me no understand... - 5/4/2004 3:06:57 PM   
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Well, the combat report was a snooze fest, but Raver's move was actually a lot better than that. I'll let him post the results - disappointed it wasn't a CV raid, but oh well.

My cvl group has entered the indian ocean and that part of dandriff is racing ahead wonderfully. Of course, the other two parts are lagging somewhat (in fact, one third is at least a week from completion). And stage two of dandriff - well as Doomed knows - the timing is out of my hands).

However, normal operations are proceeding apace, especially in China where I've kicked Raver's chinese rabble out of Hangchow, and will be chasing them down to make sure they don't get a chance to stand at Wuchow (I culled another 2500 of them this turn).

I'm not sure if my invasion at menado is going to work without reinforcements - not too happy about the stall there. I need the entirety of that island under my control to properly starve the southern part of Borneo out.

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RE: Me no understand... - 5/4/2004 3:10:55 PM   
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The big question remains though, and thats, wheres my turn?

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RE: Me no understand... - 5/4/2004 3:17:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Rendova

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ORIGINAL: sven6345789
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I am german, and if there is one thing we know better than starting world wars, it is beer!!!


You got no problem staring them its the finshing part you stumble on.




Well, drinking beer and starting world wars have something in common - in the beginning you feel happy and content, then you become boastful and overconfident and start to do silly things, but do not realize that the mechanics for your eventual downfall are already at work behind the scenes, and before you know, you find yourself on your knees with a terrible headache, regretting and promising not to do it again - but sooner or later you will...

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RE: Me no understand... - 5/4/2004 6:32:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rendova

quote:

ORIGINAL: sven6345789
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I am german, and if there is one thing we know better than starting world wars, it is beer!!!


You got no problem staring them its the finshing part you stumble on.




Well, drinking beer and starting world wars have something in common - in the beginning you feel happy and content, then you become boastful and overconfident and start to do silly things, but do not realize that the mechanics for your eventual downfall are already at work behind the scenes, and before you know, you find yourself on your knees with a terrible headache, regretting and promising not to do it again - but sooner or later you will...


Good analogy

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RE: Me no understand... - 5/4/2004 8:43:03 PM   
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Hi, guys. I've been away for two months and am just getting back. So, did Operation Dandriff kick off while I was away?

No?

Not surprised. The whole thing was a sham

I'll check back in another two months . .
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RE: Me no understand... - 5/5/2004 2:25:34 AM   
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Well I sent in a bombardment TF to hit Kendari, and although it was a clean strike, the actually results of the shelling were disapointing, but I guess when most of the TF is made up of DDs there is not much more that you can do.

banananananana boy's dandy fleet has forced the straits of Malacca (bugger I should have mined it earlier) and is now free to cause terror and mayhem in the Indian Ocean. But I have made sure that there are no targets for him to really hit, so Luskan will be simply burning oil and wasting bombs.

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SRA - 5/5/2004 7:08:24 AM   
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Hi, I don't wish to hijack the thread but I don't want to start a new one either.
PBEM game Dadman Japan-Mogami Allies Dec 22 1941

Wake Island fought off the Naval Guard Unit that landed on Dec 7th. The Japanese return with the South Sea Detachment a few weeks later but in the mean time I've reinforced Wake with another USMC Defense Bn. (IJN CV catch and sink most of the reinforcement TF on way back to Pearl)

Air War status
A2A 95-74
DOG 201-0
AA 17-50
Ops 12-36
Total 325-160
Sortie 8,068-37,064


Material removed from SRA to date.
100,000k fuel
100,000k oil
100,000k resource.

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RE: SRA - 5/5/2004 7:21:35 AM   
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Oh well done Mog ! The Allied fanboys will be very pleased with you!

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RE: SRA - 5/5/2004 7:31:50 AM   
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I just noticed this posted from luskan above:

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Coastal Guns at Menado, 39,67, firing at TF 95
TF 95 troops unloading over beach at Menado, 39,67


1200 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
CL Kashima
PG Keijo Maru
PG Choan Maru #2
PG Takunan Maru #10
PG Seikai Maru, Shell hits 2
PG Heijo Maru

Japanese ground losses:
335 casualties reported


I am guessing that the shots were divided between troops and ships.

Anyone know how the game determines what percentage to use for firing at the ships and what percentage is used against the troops on the beach?

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RE: SRA - 5/5/2004 8:22:26 AM   
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actually since most of the 1200 are smaller "arms" fire (mortars included I think) most of them hit the troops disembarking rather than the ships. Ships really really need to beware when there is a bunch of big guns in the cd unit and they aren't unloading troops (because then they get 1200 shots aimed at them).

As for the doubters in the peanut gallery - yes, you Byron13 - the three seperate "prongs" of Dandriff have been "go" for days and days now. Only one of those prongs (Admiral yamata and his group that just refulled at Alor Star and pushed off into the indian ocean) has been spotted by Raver. The reason you haven't seen the other two, is because Raver's float planes are crap (and that my ships are out of range). You can't sail across the pacific in an afternoon (although I swear one of my big cv groups seems to be moving at half speed).

I estimate 2 weeks before prong 2 of Dandriff crashes home and causes Raver a blood clot, and prong 3 - well it is one of those "who knows" sort of things. Hopefully if 1 and 2 and 3 come off properly I'll have done what the japanese should have done at the outset of WW2.

In the meantime my subs at pearls are dodging depth charges permanently. Raver's ASW groups get better and better and they're throwing the damned things around like confetti. If it wasn't so close to pearl I'd be trying to pull my subs back. However I'm waiting for wounded bbs . . .

In other news, Menado fell to my victorious troops who slaughter a couple of thousand more infidels and planted the imperial flag on the last base on Sulawesi. The entire island (like Mindanao) is MINE MINE MINE!. Now for Leyte, Borneo, Luzon, java, and Australia.

There are a few sideshow ops on in China at the moment - aimed at routing the last of Raver's madly fleeing chinese (either they'll flee to Wuchow - or they'll get caught in Kweilin, in which case they'll be slaughtered - Raver already has a big army at Wuchow, so the remnants of his big armies will be safe there, assuming he can overland supply them).

After the nasty shock my apratroops got last week I don't think I'll go near Wuchow for a while yet.

Admiral Yamada sent me a message that his cv group has docked and refuelled and resupplied at Alor Star, and now with a full loadout and fuel tank, he's off to find some trouble in the indian ocean. Raver things I don't know where he has parked all his ships. Fortunately for me, I havea couple of tankers nearby to refuel - and my army will soon capture Moulmein and yield yet more fuel and supply for my cv group. There certainly isn't anything on the British OOB that can stand against them so they'll have lots of fun.

Meanwhile, my two "large" cv groups are on alert. They are ready to dash out and dismember Raver's equal sized but far less experienced CV group of 3 cvs (I've got my cvs ready to go at a moments notice. Of course, if Raver has all three cvs sitting back at san francisco I'm going to be snotty, because I could have them ranging around the place out to sink Raver's transports (at darwin and perth).

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