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ORIGINAL: BarkhornXX

Hello all – I just ordered UV last night and should have it by Wednesday.

I’ve been reading a ton of AAR reports and I just have to ask why don’t ships sink right off? It appears that the worst that can happen is “heavily damaged, on fire.”

Does this situation have more to do w/ the “Fog of War”, or is it related to how tough these ships are? I mean, I would expect that there would be more reports of sinkings than there appear to be. Can anyone enlighten me?

Barkhorn.

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little bit of advice

dont be too hopeful about playing it

ive had my copy for almost 3 months, and i STILL cant play it

currently im trying to put parts together to uild a computer that WILL play it

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ORIGINAL: AmiralLaurent

UV ships are not sunk on the spot. In fact they will take damage and at precise times a check is made by the game to see if the ship sinks or not.

These times are:

_ end of the night movement phase
_ end of the night air phase
_ end of the night surface combat phase
_ end of the day movement phase
_ end of the afternoon air phase (there is 2 air rounds each day phase. So ships that should have been sunk in the morning will also be attacked in the afternoon... in fact no plane will find them)
_ end of the day surface phase

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the check is done at the end of each round of surface combat (surface battles are fought with several rounds with different ranges between ships) if the battle is not finished.
For example an IJN TF surprised an USN convoy, so fired without ripost and hits two SC and two APs. At the end of the round, the two SC sink. Then the battle is fought at 2000 yards and other ships may sink at the end of the phase. Then the Allied convoy trying to escape increases range and the battle is fought at 6000 yards. Other Allied ships are hit but if the battle ends without a new round, you will not see them sink during the battle, but at the end of the next battle.

In the games reports, you will only see "ship is sunk" in some surface battles.

I agree that ships should sink when they are under attack sometimes. For example when a solitary AP is attacked by 200 Vals and Kates, usually only the 8 or 12 first planes will attack. The others will only find wreckage. But in the afternoon phase, search planes will still report an AP here and the 200 planes will return to the spot, for nothing...

My personnal record is 680 planes sorties flown in 2 sorties to sink a damaged AP. I costs me 11 planes (11 VP) to sink this (7 VP)./ And more important 11 crews, not to speak of the fatigue for all units.

Here is an example of one of my saved reports, with comments

Air attack on TF, near Dobadura at 13,38

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 14

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIC x 22

no losses

no losses

Japanese Ships
AG 5091, Shell hits 24, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage (sunk)
AG 5070
AG 5087, Shell hits 4, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage (sunk)
AG 374, Shell hits 4
AG 2056, Shell hits 4, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage (scuttled in the evening)

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Two barges sink at the end of the turn, I scuttled the latter. A really bad idea, as it ends in the sunk lists and is worth 2 VP for the Allied. Let's the barges sink, it's worth 0 VP then.

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