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Marshall Ellis, Marshall Ellis please read all the way through. At the end is a possible loophole that occurred to me while typing this answer that could be really bad. You are partially correct in your answer, but in the AH - EIA rules page 13 rules 6.3.1.2 6.3.1.2.1, & 6.3.1.2.2 the rules state and I quote: 6.3.1.2 A stack may only attack another stack if at war with the major power owning that stack OR if at war with a major power owning corps being (or that could be) transported by fleets of that stack. In the latter case, the attacker's stack need NOT be at war with the major power owning the transporting fleets and if not, the attacker has the option to either: *** my comment so England would attack Spain, Russia, & French fleets*** 6.3.1.2.1: Attack WITHOUT a declaration of war (no political point loss for a declaration of war) although politcal points are still normally gained or lost for winning or losing the battle. ***my comment Spain would still be subject to attack and would suffer PP loss or gain, but no war would exist with England. Despite enforced peace *** 6.3.1.2.2: OR, IMMEDIATLY declare war (EVEN if operating under an enforced peace period, which CAN BE IGNORED in this case) and lose the requiste political points (see 4.2.1.1) for EACH seperate declaration of war. NO allies may be called with these declarations of war. *** my comment England could at it's choosing declare war on Spain and be at war with Spain, France, & Russia, if England so decided. This would cost England 3 PP's for the declaration + any points for alliance or marriage. Spain could not call any other allies in its defense. *** I think the rules quoted above are pretty clear on the situation. England can keep the peace with Spain, but sink Spanish ships; or declare war on Spain and sink Spanish ships. In addition my interpretation is such that England MUST include the Spanish ships in the combat BECAUSE they COULD transport French corp and the stack is in combine movement. Now this probably won't be an issue in the PC version because I believe Marshall Ellis pointed out in the past that in combine movement the corp or fleet fall under the ownership of the power that the fleet or corp are loaned to for the combine movement. Therefore the Russian, French, & Spanish fleets would ALL have to belong to one of the three major powers. Therefore what they need to watch out for is if France and Russia loan the corp and fleets to SPAIN, that England can still attack the Spanish fleets because what is to prevent France and Russia to "LOAN" the corp to Spain in a combine movement then after the corp land in England, because England can't stop it, the next turn Spain gives control BACK to France and Russia. Now 90,000 French troops are in London because of a programming loophole. Just a thought.
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