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Bikini Test watercolors - 7/28/2004 2:37:15 AM   
Tankerace


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Status: offline 		While I was searching for photos of the Nevada to do a "hypothetical" 4/42 refit for my new mod (See thread below), I found a set of three water colors depicting her in the blasts. They are really amazing. Here are two, painter as if on the Bridge of the USS Arkansas.


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The Nevada is morred to the port of the Nagato, and the Japanese cruiser Sakawa is morred to the port of the Nevada. To serve as an Aiming point, the Nevada was painted bright Orange. The second water color depicts the day after the Able tests. It too was sketched from the bridge of the USS Arkansas. Note the Sakawa sinking, and the scortched orange paint of the Nevada. Also note that, despite being burned, both Nevada and Nagato are in fairly good shape. Also notice the twisted bridge structure of the Arkansas.

Kind of sad that these old warhorses were put through this. It was a terrible shame.

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RE: Bikini Test watercolors - 7/28/2004 3:13:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Those are really good representations. I wonder how many REM's the guy absorbed painting the second one?

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RE: Bikini Test watercolors - 7/28/2004 3:22:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		My mind is in the gutter tonight. I read as far as bikini and thought cool and clicked the thread. Imagine my disappointment.

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RE: Bikini Test watercolors - 7/28/2004 3:50:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		your question reminds me of a documentary about the Bikini survivors. One of them had a huge hand due to radiation poisoning. The sickest part of it was that the VA would not admit it was from Bikini.

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RE: Bikini Test watercolors - 7/28/2004 3:53:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		NOT admit it was from Bikini? What did they say, that he is a cartoon charachter and he dropped a wrench on it?

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RE: Bikini Test watercolors - 7/28/2004 3:57:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		I do not recall (saw that stuff 15 years ago in Europe), but it was kind of the same stuff as the Gulf War syndrome: if you recognize it, the financial liability could be enormous.

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RE: Bikini Test watercolors - 7/28/2004 3:59:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Reminds me of the 1950s when the US (and the ruskies) did tests to see what would happen if a bomb went off about 10 miles from troops. But, it 'didn't happen" or was otherwise covered up.

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RE: Bikini Test watercolors - 7/28/2004 4:04:27 AM   
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RE: Bikini Test watercolors - 7/28/2004 4:11:46 AM   
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It's kind of sick that you bust your a** for your country and they let you down for a few greens. BTW, how do you insert a picture in your sugnature?


1. Find pic.
2. Alter to taste.
3. Upload to webspace. Use http://www.photobucket.com if you have none.
4. Copy url for uploaded pic.
5. Click on the "My Profile" link at top right of forum page.
6. Type [img][/img] into signature block.
7. Paste url between bracket tags.
8. Update profile.


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RE: Bikini Test watercolors - 7/28/2004 4:19:44 AM   
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RE: Bikini Test watercolors - 7/28/2004 4:44:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: dhennin

your question reminds me of a documentary about the Bikini survivors. One of them had a huge hand due to radiation poisoning. The sickest part of it was that the VA would not admit it was from Bikini.


I don't mean to be a shill for the DOD, but when it comes to causality of diseases there is the minor matter of scientific credibility.

Famous examples of false alarms:

1) Bendectin (used for nausea during pregnancy). One study suggested a link to duodenal atresia...boom...massive class action suit..no more Bendectin...Bankruptcy for manufacturer. Only later did follow-up studies prove there was no link. Oh well, the pregnant women will just have to throw up then.

2) Silicone you-know-what implants and auto-immune disease. Bankruptcy for Dow-Corning. Subsequent scientific agreement that the whole thing was BS. Oh well

Radiation can be toxic of course, and the government has a responsibility to not casually exposure servicement to undue risk, but bad things can happen to people that weren't at the Bikini tests too.

My Uncle was on the physics team at the Baker shot. He died of complications of cancer surgery 5 yrs ago. He did not blame the Air Force.

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RE: Bikini Test watercolors - 7/28/2004 6:15:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		you have a point and that's why in my former career, I always refused to work with anything that waseven remotely connected to nuclear physics.

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RE: Bikini Test watercolors - 7/28/2004 7:00:38 AM   
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Famous examples of false alarms


And the "Measles/Mumps/Rubella Vaccine causes autism". But that wasn't a false alarm. It was a law firm bribed the scientists to put out false data.

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RE: Bikini Test watercolors - 7/28/2004 7:08:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Beezle

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Famous examples of false alarms


And the "Measles/Mumps/Rubella Vaccine causes autism". But that wasn't a false alarm. It was a law firm bribed the scientists to put out false data.


Bad law firm, bad

Oh wait, that is redundant.

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RE: Bikini Test watercolors - 7/28/2004 7:12:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		And don't forget that big hoax that the earth is round and that anyone has actually ever been to the moon. I know this guy who has a brother who knows someone who filmed that whole fake "walk on the moon" sequence in Hollywood. This guy also retouches photos take from airplanes to make the earth look curved.

(Boy, are we all bored. Boy, would we all rather have the patch and get back to the game).

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RE: Bikini Test watercolors - 7/28/2004 7:13:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		I had a watercolour of test "Baker" as my screensaver for awhile.

What got me was seeing the guys with straw brooms brushing off the Nevada test troops...nuke testing was really facked. Nuking all those Pacific island protectorates during the Cold War was criminal. Really weird time. Suburbia, strip malls, Perry Como, bomb shelters, nuclear holocaust. WTF was humanity on?

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RE: Bikini Test watercolors - 7/28/2004 7:16:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		on the same stuff as now. Under pretext of a war, governments do things they would never get away with in peace time.

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RE: Bikini Test watercolors - 7/28/2004 7:18:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Beezle

And don't forget that big hoax that the earth is round and that anyone has actually ever been to the moon. I know this guy who has a brother who knows someone who filmed that whole fake "walk on the moon" sequence in Hollywood. This guy also retouches photos take from airplanes to make the earth look curved.

(Boy, are we all bored. Boy, would we all rather have the patch and get back to the game).


I realize you are jokin' here Beez. Can't believe that many idiots actually think the moon shots were fake... Talk with John W Young and tell him he's a liar. Better still, Boppin' Buzz Aldrin!

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RE: Bikini Test watercolors - 7/28/2004 7:24:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		My mother in law actually thinks that the Mars rover images are shot in Arizona! So...anything is possible.

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RE: Bikini Test watercolors - 7/28/2004 7:32:19 AM   
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My mother in law actually thinks that the Mars rover images are shot in Arizona


A friend of mine lives in Carson City, Nevada. He showed me (with pride) the local tourist attraction. From his back window you can see the bleak dusty plains where he says they tested the Lunar Rover. Not a lot of vegetation in his back yard. To put it mildly. Remind me never to move to Carson City

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RE: Bikini Test watercolors - 7/28/2004 7:35:41 AM   
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RE: Bikini Test watercolors - 7/28/2004 1:52:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Somewhat off topic but watch this video.
Go to:

http://www.birdman.org/products/Nuke50.htm

and scroll down to watch the video clip.

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RE: Bikini Test watercolors - 7/28/2004 4:34:00 PM   
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RE: Bikini Test watercolors - 7/28/2004 6:43:48 PM   
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My mother in law actually thinks that the Mars rover images are shot in Arizona


A friend of mine lives in Carson City, Nevada. He showed me (with pride) the local tourist attraction. From his back window you can see the bleak dusty plains where he says they tested the Lunar Rover. Not a lot of vegetation in his back yard. To put it mildly. Remind me never to move to Carson City



It isn't that bad. I've lived here a long time and never heard of the place where they filmed the lunar rover. I thought that was down by Vegas.

Actually the Nevada State Museum has the silver set from the USS Nevada on display. Pretty impressive stuff. I wanted to register for it when I got married, but my wife wanted china instead.

Jeff

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RE: Bikini Test watercolors - 7/28/2004 6:54:53 PM   
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but my wife wanted china instead.


Bad decision on the part of your wife. She will soon find she has to manintain a garrision there, but can't get a decisive win. Basically it is just a sponge, sucking up LCUs, air units and supplies your wife could put to better use in the DEI/Oz area.

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