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Withdrawing USAFFE airgroups - 8/18/2004 3:41:45 PM

Barlock

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Quick question: Why is it that if you split the 24th FG at Manila or 19th BG at Clark, then withdraw one of the sub-units, do they show up in the reinforcement list as being under the command of SW Pacific?

I'm guessing that someone in the war department is either a distant relation of Nostradamus or is enough of a pessimist to think that the USAFFE will be a casualty of war within 60 days...

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RE: Withdrawing USAFFE airgroups - 8/18/2004 6:15:46 PM

Twotribes

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Pretty sure the manual tells you that the designer did that because it is a restricted HQ and if it arrives in San Francisco as a restricted HQ unit you cant move it with out first spending Political points to manually change the HQs.

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RE: Withdrawing USAFFE airgroups - 8/19/2007 12:27:33 PM

Mistmatz

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Reanimating a very old thread here, but I have just about the same question.

I noticed that if I withdraw one USAFFE group into another and I order to get the disbanded group back in 90 days it appears in the reinforcement schedule under an unrestricted command (eg SWPAC instead of USAFFE).

Question is if this is a cheesy move or not, as there is a PP saving involved. On the other hand the allies have one squadron less to fight with for 90 days plus transit time, although they probably dont have enough planes to fill out all their squadrons at the beginning of the war anyway.

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RE: Withdrawing USAFFE airgroups - 8/20/2007 8:29:47 AM

afspret

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Unless you plan on blowing PPs to withdraw USAFFE HQ before the PI falls, what good does it do to have a unit return to the game assigned to a HQ unit that no longer exsists? Its going the come back with 64 a/c and then its going to cost you a lot of PPs to switch HQ. It'll cost you less PPs to switch commands when the unit has fewer a/c assigned, or you divide the unit and change the fragments, which has even fewer a/c, one turn at a time, like I do.

Remember, the 19th BG actually withdrew from the PI to continue ops from Java & Oz (making it part of SWPAC) before finally returning stateside in late 1942 to serve as a replacement training unit until Apr '44, when the group disbanded and then reformed as a B-29 group, which ended up being assigned to CENPAC.

What I'd like to see is a feature similar to British ship withdrawl in that the Allied player must withdraw some air units by a certain date (i.e. the 39th & 47th BGs and the 20th & 55th FGs to name a few), or lose PPs.

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