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- 2/16/2002 8:29:00 AM   
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There are historical scenarios and hypothetical ones. The one I am playing is hypothetical and assumes the battle did not happen. If I said it was historical, my mistake. You can read the scenario descriptions and it will tell you whether the Midway event happens in that scenario or not.

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- 2/16/2002 6:23:00 PM   
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I may have tossed in a monkey wrench of confusion here... I asked what "difficulty setting" was being played. I did so b/c I too wondered about Kaga & Akagi showing up. I didn't think about it being a "hypothetic" scenario on the "historical" difficulty setting.

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- 2/20/2002 9:08:00 AM   
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I can't wait ...is another Report coming ??.......Im Jones'n.........give me another Report from the Front AP514

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- 2/20/2002 8:48:00 PM   
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They've been keeping me busy beta testing, and with the patch updates I think I have kind of lost a handle on the game I was describing. I started another campaign, June 42-Dec 43 with historical OOBs, as the Japanese. I could write that one up if you guys are interested.
Things are going pretty badly for me this time.

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- 2/20/2002 9:02:00 PM   
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quote:

Originally posted by Snigbert:
They've been keeping me busy beta testing, and with the patch updates I think I have kind of lost a handle on the game I was describing. I started another campaign, June 42-Dec 43 with historical OOBs, as the Japanese. I could write that one up if you guys are interested.
Things are going pretty badly for me this time.

Yes, wanna have it.... it is the only thing we low creatures can consume, so pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase feed us....

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- 2/20/2002 9:16:00 PM   
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Although things are going badly for you, even a brief AAR would be appreciated. Thanks

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- 2/21/2002 2:34:00 AM   
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Yes please snigbert old bean!I was enjoying your original one and would,undoubtedly,enjoy your new one. Lex Morton

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- 2/21/2002 3:57:00 AM   
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June 7th, 1942 From: Commander, South Seas Fleet/8th Area Army
To: Commander, Combined Fleet (Home) Subject: Situation Report, week of June 1st-June 7th 1942 Our operation progressed perfectly this week, following the plan to reduce enemy forces in Eastern New Guinea and Solomons Island group. We feel the amount of naval support we have received thus far is inadequate to maintain momentum in this theatre. It is understood that the damage the Shokaku and Zuikaku took last month has reduced our available carrier force, but hopefully following the top secret operation our fleet is currently engaged in, other carriers may be made available to us. We are in a critical stage of our operation and have no carriers available. If American carriers appear in this area all we have to fight them is a handful of heavy cruisers and destroyers. We spent most of last week planning and carrying out invasions of our first four objectives, Buna and Gili Gili on New Guinea, and Tulagi and Lunga in the Eastern Solomons. Efforts were also made to bring air support to forward bases including Rabaul and Shortland. Hopefully by this time next week all of these locations will be in friendly hands. Recon has shown all of these enemy bases to be lightly defended or undefended. June 14th, 1942 From: Commander, South Seas Fleet/8th Area Army
To: Commander, Combined Fleet (Home) Subject: Situation Report, week of June 8th-June 14th 1942 Great news, our forces have achieved a fantastic victory at Midway and sank the American carrier Yorktown.
We are grateful for the news of continuing victories, as well as our new information that the carriers Junyo, Zuiho and Ryujo will be dispatched to our command along with many cruisers, destroyers and four battleships. With these mighty ships arrayed against the enemy they will surely be swept from the seas. In other good news, all four bases we had set to capture our now in our hands. We move forward to phase two of our operation, the isolation and eventual capture of Port Moresby. Unfortunately, this may be a more difficult nut to crack.
Ground reinforcements began arriving at Truk this week to fall under our command, and will be sent to New Guinea via Rabaul. Two cruiser task forces are created, the first to patrol the Eastern Solomons and the Second to interdict shipping between Australia and Port Moresby. This interdiction, along with continued pressure on Port Moresby from our aircraft at Rabaul will soften them up for our amphibious invasion. It may take a few weeks to get the forces in line for this invasion, in the meantime we have beefed up ground defenses at Guadalcanal, Tulagi, Buin, Buka, Buna and Gili Gili.
We also welcomed the arrival of several seaplane tenders at Truk, which we will move into position in the Solomons. Their scout planes will be our eyes and ears, monitoring traffic between Australia and the New Hebrides.
June 21st, 1942 From: Commander, South Seas Fleet/8th Area Army
To: Commander, Combined Fleet (Home) Subject: Situation Report, week of June 15th-June 21st 1942 Our seaplanes spotted trouble last week, an American carrier task force steaming from Espiritu Santo towards New Guinea. They wish to draw us out into a carrier battle, but unfortunately our carriers are just arriving at Truk and most likely wont make it in time to intercept them. Our planes have indicated only one Carrier there, we suspect it is the Saratoga. This American carrier task force launches several air strikes on our forces at Gili Gili. We also spot American Task Forces milling around Espiritu Santo. Could they be planning to retake Gili Gili? Unfortunately for them, the Saratoga and her escorts wasted too much time on Gili Gili, and our carriers arrive to give them battle. It didn't turn out to be our finest hour. The American planes attacked us piecemeal, probably due to their unexperienced pilots. First came the Fighters and Dive Bombers, then later the staggered arrival of Torpedo bombers with no fighter support. Many of the enemy planes were destroyed by our superior A6M2 and A6M3 fighters, but one of the enemy dive bombers that managed to get through hit the Zuiho with a 1000lb bomb, which punched through the flight deck and blew up in the ship's magazine.
Our counterattack against the Saratoga was much more coordinated and I was quite sure of success. She took two hits from 250kg bombs, and a torpedo, but as our planes withdrew she showed no signs of serious damage, not even smoke. We hoped that the ship was damaged more severly then it appeared. Our task force made it back to Rabaul, however the Zuiho dropped behind with a destroyer, and was only making 11 knots. We were grateful she stayed afloat after the hit she had taken. To our amazement, the American carrier continued its operations in the area, and withdrew a few days later as their cowardly nature eventually got the better of them. On the heels of this difficult situation we received good news, the Zuikaku had been dispatched and would be arriving at Truk in just over a week. We have to admit our surpise that the Shokaku remained in Japan, and Carrier Division Six was split up.
Perhaps the carriers from Midway will be back in Japan soon as well, and then dispatched to join us. We have heard no news of them since their victory against the Yorktown.
To be continued

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- 2/21/2002 4:02:00 AM   
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quote:

Originally posted by Snigbert:
They've been keeping me busy beta testing, and with the patch updates I think I have kind of lost a handle on the game I was describing. I started another campaign, June 42-Dec 43 with historical OOBs, as the Japanese. I could write that one up if you guys are interested.
Things are going pretty badly for me this time.

Is it possible in UV for things to go bad when playing against AI? I dont remember ever loosing in pacwar. AI in that game simply cant handle a fight against a human opponent. Does UVs AI provide any challenge?

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- 2/21/2002 5:07:00 AM   
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Two strikes of 70, early in war (low levels of flak) and only two hits, and that not on a carrier? 1.5%. Need to do some more fine tuning.

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- 2/21/2002 5:23:00 AM   
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Ahhhh, thats the stuff.

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- 2/21/2002 8:45:00 AM   
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A Master re:
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Two strikes of 70, early in war (low levels of flak) and only two hits, and that not on a carrier? 1.5%. Need to do some more fine tuning.
I disagree with your statement if it is in anyway related to Snigberts scenario as described above.The Zuiho is KO'ed early by a magazine explosion so that carrier is out of the equation and the remaining 2 have a maximum of 38 a/c (Ryujo) and 53 a/c (Junyo).This does not equal two co-ordinated strikes of 70 a/c no matter which way you cut the mustard.A/C do lose each other in cloud etc and other a/c will be being repaired or are already written off in routine accidents etc. etc.As regards your description of "two hits",I take it you missed the torpedo hit?You are aware that this game system has a 'fog of war' built in too,I take it,so that you never really know the damage you have inflicted?This is all realistic to my way of seeing things YMMV. Lex Morton PS Snigbert great stuff with your journal!I particularly like the description of the Japanese 'victory' at Midway - right on the money!Heres a pic to keep your morale up when the truth is realised.

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- 2/22/2002 2:12:00 AM   
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Nice pic...is that a Rising Sun or a Setting Sun? Chapter 2, The Unsinkable Saratoga (or, How Not To Invade Port Moresby) From: Commander, South Seas/8th Area Army
To: Comander, Combined Fleet Subject: Situation Report, June 22nd 1942-July 6th, 1942 The Zuiho has been sent on it's long voyage to Truk, and eventually to return to Tokyo where she will be repaired and refitted to fight again another day. Filling her place is the Zuikaku, just arrived from the homeland. She has been fully repaired after the Coral Sea battle, but the Shokaku is still sitting in dry dock, it seems and no date has been issued for her release to our command. If the Saratoga shows itself again, we will be ready to pounce upon her with the might of two carriers and one light carrier. Arriving with the Zuikaku were more cruisers, destroyers, and two more battleships...bringing the number of battleships under our command to six. During this time we form another surface task force, this one with two battleships included among the destroyers. We increase the frequency of our bombardments on Port Moresby, and on several occasions catch Allied resupply task forces in the open. The tonnage of shipping being sunk around Port Moresby must be raising the dander of the Allied commanders because they reciprocate by shelling Lunga for several nights.
Luckily they only catch one ship (an oiler) resupplying our base there, and sink it. To alleviate the situation at Lunga, I send two squadrons of Nells and a squadron of Bettys to interdict Allied naval forces in the area. Seaplane tenders in the area work around the clock to locate targets for these level bombers. Reinforcement squadrons of Bettys and Zeros have arrived at Truk so I don't feel we'll be selling Rabaul short of aircraft. Despite shelling, the progress on the airfield at Lunga is coming along nicely and the level bombers will not be affected by the small size of the air strip any longer. The 65th regiment and 35th regiment have arrived in Rabaul, and I begin boarding them onto transports to assault Port Moresby by sea. I considered a safer landing location of Buna or Lae, but felt that it would be too time consuming to bring the troops overland, and their supply lines would be stretched too thin when they reached their destination. However, my plan to invade is spoiled by the spotting of two Allied task forces approaching Gili Gili from the east. Patrol planes report three American carriers. I sortie my carriers, although they have the advantage I must hope that luck will be on our side. A single task force is formed with the Junyo, Ryujo and Zuikaku and escorts, and dispatched to intercept the American ships. Two battleships and several heavy cruisers were included in this force, in hope that the antiaircraft fire they provided could help carry the day. Our planes struck first this time, and concentrated on the first task force, which included the Saratoga. The other task force had 2 carriers. Our pilots hit the Saratoga several times, along with some near hits on the Indianapolis, the Juneau and the San Diego. Our planes returned to our carriers with the unsatisfied feeling that they had failed to knock out the Saratoga on yet another opportunity. And it wasn't long before American planes filled the sky over our task force.
The Zuikaku was the object of most of their attack, although the Junyo had several opportunities to avoid enemy torpedos and bombs. Two bomb hits scored against the Zuikaku, along with two torpedo hits. We had the sinking feeling that she might not be soon going the way of the Zuiho, or worse.
Fortunately there was not enough light left in the day for a second wave of attacks, and our task force withdrew in the darkness with it's tail between it's legs...back to Rabaul. The Zuikaku staggered along behind the rest of our ships, and we had a moment of utter panic when a periscope was spotted by the Zuikaku's look outs. But at the last moment a destroyer, the Kamikaze, swept by and chased off the submarine.

The next few days were spent in frustration as we watched the American carriers remain on station near Gili Gili, subjecting our troops there to regular bombing. Surely Gili Gili will be the location the Allies have chosen for their landing. They have spent so much time concentrating on it. Finally, we become aggravated by the presence of the American carriers and our inability to invade Port Moresby due to their presence, and we come up with an ingenious plan.
A surface task force is created, consisiting of the Hiei, Haruna, Furutako, Chokai, Mikuma, and Tenyru. If the American carriers are so comfortable stationed at the small area of sea, we will sneak some battleships in there by night and create some chaos for them. Wolves in the chicken coop, if you will.
The plan went perfectly, except for one fatal blunder...the carriers with a sense of precognisence had withdrawn slightly towards Port Moresby, and we couldn't reach their location before daylight came. And there was our task force caught in open water with no air defense, spotted by American carrier aircraft.
I don't recall if it was the third or fourth wave of bombers that sank the Tenyru...it was definitely the second wave that sank the Chokai and crippled the Hiei so badly she would have to be scuttled before the end of the day. The Haruna was left burning, it was only luck that allowed her and the Furutako and Mikuma to make it back to Rabaul. And what do we have to show for all these losses? A Saratoga still defiantly patrolling the waters just out of range of our bombers at Rabaul, and two of her sister carriers sailing in a task force beside her. Eventually they were forced to retire back to New Caledonia, and we took advantage of the lull in American air power to launch our attack on Port Moresby. It began with a heavy bombardment from the air, three groups of Bettys and two groups of Nells. This was followed by a naval shelling by six cruisers. We imagined the defenses must be softening up nicely. The troops came ashore next, we managed to land almost ten thousand men the first day.
However, the Allied commander at Port Moresby didn't give us time to consolidate our beachhead or land the other ten thousand troops still on the transports. The counter attacked immediately, with a shocking 30,000 veteran Australian troops. My men went fleeing into the jungles surrounding Port Moresby, my attack had totally floundered. I withdrew the rest of the troops on the transports and sent the to Buna, where the survivors of the landing would be ordered to congregate as well. In summary, we have had nothing but defeats for the last month or so. Something must happen soon to turn the tide, as morale is beginning to suffer. The Shokaku still has not been ordered to come to our aid from Japan. The Zuikaku is on her way back to Japan to be repaired. Still no word on the Kaga, Akagi, Soryu or Hiryu. Perhaps their timely arrival could turn things around and help us carry the day. Reports have come that a fourth American carrier is operating in the area. Perhaps we should change to a defensive posture in this region, it doesn't seem possible to threaten the Allies anymore with the assetts we have available.

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- 2/22/2002 3:53:00 AM   
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Excellent! (your report, not your losses)

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- 2/22/2002 5:43:00 AM   
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massively cool report man. Let us know when the Akagi and Kaga arrive and you strike back. The night surface action attempt was worth a try

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- 2/22/2002 7:46:00 AM   
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Snigbert Keep those AAR's coming! They are superb. We only hope that the rising sun will see the Kaga, Akagi, Hiryu, and Soryu crossing the horizon. Goodluck.

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