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RE: Massed bombing raid - 10/11/2004 1:20:23 PM   
Raverdave


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Status: offline 		Simply a carry over from my UV days..............6000 gives the max effect without getting into penlties low high...ie the bomb sight.

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RE: Massed bombing raid - 10/12/2004 4:24:22 PM   
Luskan

 

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Status: offline 		Well Raver made a fairly well expected move - he dumped a couple of thousand troops and 32 armoured cars onto Wake somehow (guessing fast transport?).

Fortunately I was expecting it, and the allied shock attack killed 17 of my men and cost over 300 of theirs. I was well supplied, a nice little fort and well rested with a reasonable amount of firepower on hand, and more nearby if I need it. I doubt I will.

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RE: Massed bombing raid - 10/13/2004 3:17:13 AM   
Raverdave


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Status: offline 		The attack on Wake was simply a recon-in-force. I was willing to spend the men to find out what Luskan's defence of Islands is like, and also to gauge different methods of using ships.

I am now convinced that Luskan is planning to have a crack at Mandalay. There are some very large troop movements heading north into Burma and one does not have to be a metal giant to figure out where they will be used. The question is can I hold?

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RE: Massed bombing raid - 10/13/2004 10:22:00 PM   
Capt. Harlock


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The attack on Wake was simply a recon-in-force. I was willing to spend the men to find out what Luskan's defence of Islands is like, and also to gauge different methods of using ships.


Wouldn't it have been better to use Deliberate Attack instead of Shock Attack? Or is an amphibious landing automatically a Shock Attack?

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RE: Massed bombing raid - 10/13/2004 11:03:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

quote:

The attack on Wake was simply a recon-in-force. I was willing to spend the men to find out what Luskan's defence of Islands is like, and also to gauge different methods of using ships.


Wouldn't it have been better to use Deliberate Attack instead of Shock Attack? Or is an amphibious landing automatically a Shock Attack?


Yes, a shock attack will occur automatically. Keep this in mind before invading atolls.

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RE: Massed bombing raid - 10/14/2004 2:07:22 PM   
Luskan

 

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Status: offline 		Also keep in mind there are some rules to keep too many troops from landing or basing on atolls in reality.

Now Raver the unloved is now being called Raver the heartless by his own troops. His recon in force ended today with the complete slaughter of all the hapless troops he sent into harms way - WITHOUT an escape route.

Suppose Raver was bound to notice things a rolling in Burma sooner or later. I had hoped for later to be honest. Onc Mandalay falls I'm hoping to have an easier time defending longer distances against Raver.

enjoy.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/25/42

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Day Air attack on North China Area Army, at 45,25


Allied aircraft
I-16c x 24
SB-2c x 21


Allied aircraft losses
I-16c: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
SB-2c: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x I-16c bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
4 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
3 x I-16c bombing at 2000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
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Sub attack at 24,39

Japanese Ships
TK Funakawa Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Swordfish

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TF 22 troops unloading over beach at Sarmi, 48,78


Japanese ground losses:
84 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Wake Island

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3466 troops, 15 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 150 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 107 to 1



Allied ground losses:
1194 casualties reported
Guns lost 18


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Ground combat at 48,37

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 16165 troops, 207 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1096 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 352 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
35 casualties reported


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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RE: Massed bombing raid - 10/15/2004 12:39:00 AM   
Oliver Heindorf


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Status: offline 		Luskan/Raver : I have lost the amount of ships lost etc. is there any possibility to get any results/statistics please ?

thank you in advance !

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RE: Massed bombing raid - 10/15/2004 4:08:36 PM   
Luskan

 

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Status: offline 		I'll get some stats out over the weekend. Not sure I will post any pics - too many security risks!

The drive along java continues with ease, my troops slaughter retreating allied troops, have a day off, spend a day marching down the road, repeat, rinse repeat etc. I'm also slowly eating up all those little allied bases on northern PNG and garrisoning them. A few search aircraft here will make allied shipping in northern australia far more visible, and of course, give me a bit of an air search umbrella over the sea lane between the southern end of the SRA and Oz.

This garrisoning was a result of a large reinforcement I received a few months back - dozens and dozens of little SNLF and naval guard units. I sent roughly a dozen down to PNG, another dozen into burma and thailand (which is now looking quite powerful - on the down side I'm eating up my own supply too fast here - can't converty oil and resources into supply fast enough!).

Another couple of bases had actually reached full build capacity for port and airfield and fort and I hadn't noticed - those eng units I sent out 2 months ago had been sitting doing nothing. I solved that and sent them off to new projects.

The lull in the major fleet actions has been beneficial - lots of sys damage repaired, lots of CV pilot training done (although there was a thunderstorm at Truk I wasn't real pleased about that cost me some rookies).

Raver is getting impatient. I can feel it. the trick is to make him give into the urge again like he did at wake. 1000+ american widows are protesting in the streets of washington to get Raver removed from power, since he sent their husbands to die for "recon" purposes when it would have been cheaper and safer to use a plane.

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RE: Massed bombing raid - 10/15/2004 5:25:30 PM   
Oliver Heindorf


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Status: offline 		Luskan, thnx for the update looking forward to see some statistics

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RE: Massed bombing raid - 10/15/2004 8:46:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi, The cheapest way to recon a base is by air. The best way to get a list of enemy units present is to send 1 DD load of troops via fast transport. Have submarines already in the hex. when the troops land they make a shock attack and you get your recon. On the next turn before the enemy can attack the subs load whats left. THe DD will count CD and mines for you. (make sure you have an AR standing by at a size 3 port)
Or you can just unload from subs. but the enemy will attack you before you can reload.

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RE: Massed bombing raid - 10/16/2004 9:55:13 AM   
Raverdave


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Status: offline 		A plane was not going to give me the info that I was looking for. I wanted to know HOW Luskan was defending his bases. How latge was the garrison? How many of those troops were inf? How many mines does he have? How many CD units does he have? And then there was also the outside chance that he simply had a eng unit there which would have been quickly ovewhelmed by the RCT that I sent in. Also using aircraft would have alerted Banananana boy that I was upto somfink.

But now that Mog has shown me a better way..................

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RE: Massed bombing raid - 10/16/2004 1:37:21 PM   
Luskan

 

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Status: offline 		Well as for the mines, I will say that it was extremely disappointing.

Not a lot of action this turn Raver's planes in northern china keep up the fight to not good purpose (makes some noise) and I steal another base in PNG. My troops in Java will reach Jakarta in 3 turns and I unloaded 160k of resources and 130k of oil into Tokyo, making may stockpiles there close to 300k of each.

I really do think the "mega" convoy is the way to go. Pile your ships into big ass convoys, go out to brunei, palembang, batavia, balikpapan, tarakan, manila consecutively and suck every drop of oil and resource point you can aboard and send them all back to tokyo.

Much more satisfying than seeing fifty little tfs on the auto convoy system.

Today was a new milestone for planes - I reach 150 A6m3s in the pool ready for replacing aircraft.

If only I had the KI 43a up and running I'd be culling some nates.

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RE: Massed bombing raid - 10/18/2004 2:57:18 PM   
Raverdave


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Status: offline 		Well even if you did have a lot of mines there.....I had a LOT of DMS's in my "invasion" TF.

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RE: Massed bombing raid - 10/19/2004 2:15:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Things are still quite, with Luskan doing very little apart from stealing small bases on the norther coast of Dutch NG. As far as action in Burma, well even though there are a LOT of troops massing, there has been no movement to date. Which is fine by me. This is giving me more chance to bomb the cr@p out of various bases in the area, with Rangoon being given it's fair share. I must addmit to being surprised at how good the Wellington bombers have proven to date.....with the AVG flying cover these guys are getting to be the best bombers in the whole of the PTO.

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RE: Massed bombing raid - 10/19/2004 4:20:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ah...the last day of May and to go out with a bang I allowed the AVG to slip their usual role of escorts and go hunting on their own. And did they have a ball ! Over the skies of Rangoon they found 27 Jap Zeros waiting and so decided to shoot down 34 ! Now THATS what I call being aggresive! This unit is now the top performing allied fighter unit with 52 confirmed kills.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/30/42

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Day Air attack on Lanchow , at 45,25


Allied aircraft
I-16c x 21
SB-2c x 14


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
4 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 57

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 34 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 9 destroyed, 5 damaged

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Day Air attack on 14th Tank Regiment, at 32,32


Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 7
Wellington III x 57


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
115 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 5

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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ASW attack at 63,44

Japanese Ships
PC Showa Maru #5
PC Showa Maru #3
PC Gamitsu Maru #1
PG Zuiko Maru
PG Saiko Maru
PG Magan Maru
PG Koei Maru
PG Keijo Maru
PG Edo Maru
MSW Tama Maru #2
MSW Fukeui Maru #7
MSW Fuji Maru

Allied Ships
SS Flying Fish


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Ground combat at Hollandia

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 495 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Hollandia base !!!

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RE: Massed bombing raid - 10/19/2004 4:32:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Raverdave

Ah...the last day of May and to go out with a bang I allowed the AVG to slip their usual role of escorts and go hunting on their own. And did they have a ball ! Over the skies of Rangoon they found 27 Jap Zeros waiting and so decided to shoot down 34 ! Now THATS what I call being aggresive! This unit is now the top performing allied fighter unit with 52 confirmed kills.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/30/42
[snip]
Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 57

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 34 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 9 destroyed, 5 damaged
[snip]

Any particular reason they're still flying P-40B's, Raver? I usually make the AVG the first group to get Warhawks, but perhaps you've just kept them too busy to upgrade.

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RE: Massed bombing raid - 10/19/2004 4:49:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GBirkn

Any particular reason they're still flying P-40B's, Raver? I usually make the AVG the first group to get Warhawks, but perhaps you've just kept them too busy to upgrade.


From my own campaign (as reported in the THAYNE NEWS CAMPAIGN REPORTS),

When I looked over the game stats, I found that the P-40E gains better fighter-bomber capability over the P-40B, but sacrifices pure fighter capability.

Because I value the AVG in a fighter role, I have kept 2/3 of my AVG flying P-40B as well.

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RE: Massed bombing raid - 10/19/2004 8:42:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Also replacement problems mean that upgrading all units to P40 E's can cause problems.

I also like to keep all or part of AVG in Tomahawks for the superb range if I need to LR Cap a bombardment TF against LR Betties or Nells.

I could use Buffaloes but.......

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RE: Massed bombing raid - 10/20/2004 12:15:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		yep I have found the difficulty of upgrading to P-40Es, it has been a fisasco. Although the planes themselves can't take all the blame.

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RE: Massed bombing raid - 10/20/2004 2:34:24 AM   
Raverdave


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Status: offline 		Yeah I also find that it is better to leave them as B's as there is too much demand for the E models................and the B' does a good enough job.

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RE: Massed bombing raid - 10/20/2004 4:02:03 AM   
GBirkn


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Status: offline 		I guess I'll have to have another look at the -B's stats, I hadn't been respecting it as much as you folks do. I've never had any difficulty keeping -E's in stock against the AI; haven't yet gotten far enough against a human to tell whether I would or wouldn't.

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RE: Massed bombing raid - 10/20/2004 5:56:35 AM   
Raverdave


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Status: offline 		Yeah well I am kinda busy using the E's to flesh out other Squadrons so there is little left over at the end of the day. And yes the B's can in the hands of good pilots hold their own against Zeros.

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RE: Massed bombing raid - 10/20/2004 1:59:43 PM   
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AVG Rules ! - 10/20/2004 4:22:14 PM   
Raverdave


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Status: offline 		The AVG again exacted a heavy toll on the jap defenders of Rangoon with 32 claimed kills. This is the second day running that these boys have mixed it with the formidible nip fighter the Zero and came out on top yet again !

Meanwhile the force of Wellingtons from RAF bomber command again pounded the Jap 5th Division killing and wounding hundreds. Intel has reported that an attack on Mandaly can be expected anytime within the next seven days, and allied defenders are digging their foxholes deep as they wait for the expected attack.

In Java, Djokjakarta base falls, the brave Dutch defenders are refusing to be pulled off the Island and will fight to the last man.



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/31/42
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Day Air attack on Lanchow , at 45,25


Allied aircraft
I-16c x 19
SB-2c x 13


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
4 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 61

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 32 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 16 destroyed

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Day Air attack on 5th Division, at 31,31


Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 7
Wellington III x 51


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
130 casualties reported
Guns lost 9
Vehicles lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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TF 22 troops unloading over beach at Aitape, 51,80


Japanese ground losses:
69 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Djokjakarta

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 54133 troops, 592 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1728 troops, 11 guns, 2 vehicles

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese assault odds: 1790 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Djokjakarta base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
144 casualties reported
Guns lost 5


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at 47,26

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 12017 troops, 181 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1660 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 208 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
87 casualties reported


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at 49,36

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 16173 troops, 208 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 736 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 1374 to 1



Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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IJNAF Gets bloody nose! - 10/22/2004 12:20:39 PM   
Raverdave


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Status: offline 		Yet again the the japs have been given a bloody nose in Burma by the RAF and the AVG ! I would be thinking that some heads are going to start rolling at the Jap high command. Also i put a number of torps into a Jap fast Bombardment group that was looking at hitting Chandapur..........I have a nice fat target of some 20 AKs unloading supplies.......and ol' banananana boy just could not resist. But his naval units got slapped on the way in.....gee what a shame

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/01/42

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TF 22 troops unloading over beach at Aitape, 51,80


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TF 22 troops unloading over beach at Aitape, 51,80


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Day Air attack on Lanchow , at 45,25


Allied aircraft
I-16c x 23
SB-2c x 14


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
4 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 63
P-40B Tomahawk x 54

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 32 destroyed, 5 damaged
Ki-46-II Dinah: 7 destroyed, 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 23 destroyed, 17 damaged Oooo thats gotta hurt !
Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 12 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
155 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 51

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 29,28


Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 11


Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 8 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Tenryu
CL Tatsuta, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA Suzuya

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 29,28


Allied aircraft
Fulmar x 12
Beaufort V-IX x 22


Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort V-IX: 22 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Tatsuta, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Go RAF !CA Suzuya
DD Sagiri
CL Yubari, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Beaufort V-IX launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Beaufort V-IX launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Beaufort V-IX launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Beaufort V-IX launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Beaufort V-IX launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Beaufort V-IX launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 29,28


Allied aircraft
Fulmar x 11
Beaufort V-IX x 6


Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort V-IX: 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Natori, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA Suzuya

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Beaufort V-IX launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Beaufort V-IX launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7

Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 5 destroyed, 7 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Oi
BB Nagato, Bomb hits 2
BB Mutsu

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Swordfish bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Swordfish bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Swordfish bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 29,28


Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CL Tatsuta, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet

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RE: IJNAF Gets bloody nose! - 10/22/2004 12:45:12 PM   
Luskan

 

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Joined: 7/11/2002
From: Down Under
Status: offline 		I've lost 12 aircraft in air to air over the last three turns. Figure that out.
As for the losses reported on the groun - they were accurate, but don't matter as I've got literally hundreds of betties and zeros and dinahs in the pool. Raver's pilots lie as bad as Raver does. I will note that he hasn't included the little part of the combat report where my betties and zeroes went to diamond harbour and blew half a dozen holes in his transports with torps - and his hurricanes did zip, nada and nothing.

This turn I finished another off.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/02/42

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Diamond Harbor at 28,23

Japanese Ships
CL Natori
CL Tenryu
CL Tatsuta - hrm . . . doesn't look like she's damaged . . .
CL Yubari
DD Yugumo
DD Hayashio
DD Amatsukaze
DD Arashio
DD Nenohi
DD Yugure
DD Sagiri

Allied Ships
AK Louisianan, Shell hits 24, and is sunk

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Day Air attack on Lanchow , at 45,25


Allied aircraft
I-16c x 3
SB-2c x 15


No Allied losses

Oil hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
5 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet

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RE: IJNAF Gets bloody nose! - 10/23/2004 12:59:11 PM   
Luskan

 

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From: Down Under
Status: offline 		Things rolling along apace, with large amounts of new industry coming online last turn at Singapore, hong Kong and Saigon. These industry centres are closer to the action, and much closer to the resources and oil in the SRA than the Home islands so I've decided to "decentralise" my economy a little.

Raver seems content to send his wellingtons out from Mandalay every turn, and get false reports from them (they've never damaged anything at Rangoon bad enough that it wasn't fixed the next turn).

Rather than keep it a secret, i'm prepared to let it known that I will be hitting Raver's defences at Mandalay with a large army very soon. The army is in place, but the prep points aren't at 100 yet, and I am waiting on a couple of divisions moving up from where they'd been looming over Java - these divisions are not going to be in the attack on Mandalay, but will prevent any funny business coming up the line from Akyab if needs be.

It is VITAL that this attack succeeds. It will rob Raver of his only airbase in Burma (Akyab is too hard to keep well supplied) and push any allied offensive back a long time as his troops get starved and harried over the mountains (check the map. If you're the allies and you get kicked out of Mandalay, things suck).

Of course, I don't actually care about those allied units at Mandalay, or the wellingtons. I care about possible b17s in the future, and I care about cutting any supply lines to China I can. I'm already wincing in anticipation for the 1944 Chinese offensive, where millions of well trained chinese troops appear at just 1 spot in my line and try to break it.

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RE: IJNAF Gets bloody nose! - 10/23/2004 11:52:13 PM   
Capt. Harlock


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quote:

It is VITAL that this attack succeeds. It will rob Raver of his only airbase in Burma (Akyab is too hard to keep well supplied) and push any allied offensive back a long time as his troops get starved and harried over the mountains (check the map. If you're the allies and you get kicked out of Mandalay, things suck).


This is going to be interesting. Three months ago you would have been able to sweep Raver out of Mandalay without too much trouble. Three months from now you'd be out of luck -- experienced troops and air reinforcements should be available to the Allies. But right now I rate the odds as pretty near even for a Japanese attack against an Allied defense. (An Allied attack against a Japanese defense would still get whipped.)

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RE: IJNAF Gets bloody nose! - 10/24/2004 4:47:05 AM   
Raverdave


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Joined: 2/8/2002
From: Melb. Australia
Status: offline 		Good assement Capt. Harlock although it really depends on how many troops Luskan is going to commit to the attack. I see the odds as being 70/30 in bananana boys favour, but I have been massing airpower which I hope will help me. So far Luskan has been content to not bomb Mandalay which strikes me as somewhat strange as it has given my airfarce free range. The airunits that he does have in Burma so far have been little better than second string units.

I have some intel that shows that there is a real big tangle in Bananana boys logistics.......this should help slow down any future big ops until he has it all sorted out.


USS West Virginia was eased out of dry dock today and will be ready to join the fleet within the next week. USS Nevada is also close to having her repairs finished..........this was only possible due to the heroic efforts of the ship builders who have had shifts working around the clock seven days a week. It is efforts like that that will win me the war.

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Hey Bannana boy! - 10/25/2004 2:05:22 PM   
Raverdave


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From: Melb. Australia
Status: offline 		Are you having mail problems again???? I keep getting the following message :_

- These recipients of your message have been processed by the mail server:
luskan1@iprimus.com.au; Failed; 5.2.2 (mailbox full)

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