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XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/10/2004 7:00:48 PM   
Warfare1


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Status: offline 		I am thinking of buying a console.

So I was wondering which console is the better buy: XBOX or PLAYSTATION 2?

Which console has the best games that a wargamer would like to play? And in your opinion which are the best games to buy?

I would appreciate all of your views and opinions.

Thanks!
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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/10/2004 7:11:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have an xbox, but I only use it for sports titles (no thinking involved; racing and tennis). I may end up playing halo2. (As far as wargames go: the pc is the only way to go really.)

I can say that if you're looking for a good multiplayer experience the Xbox live service (annual or monthly fee) works pretty well. It has a friends list so you can see who is online and playing what and from it you can invite others to join you or join someone else. I've never even touched a playstation, so I can't comment on that. BTW lately I have mostly used it to watch dvd's. (dvd-kit sold seperately!)

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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/10/2004 8:12:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		I own an Xbox and find it technologically superior to the PS2. With the appropriate adaptor it is a fully functional dvd player. The built on hard in hard drive means you don't have to mess around with memory sticks plus it allows you to rip cds to create custom soundtracks for games or even let it function as a 'jukebox'. Graphically it's vastly superior to the PS2, games like Halo, Doom 3 or Half-Life 2 would never play on the PS2 but run happily on Xbox. It's also constructed far more solidly than the PS2.

Gaming-wise, there's little that would appeal to a true 'grognard' on either console. However, for those who like to take a break from the deep strategy of wargaming there are several Xbox games I'd recommend.

Shooters:- Halo (PC version is a poor port), Chronicles of Riddick, Max Payne 2
Tactical, squad based:- Rainbow Six Three, Full Spectrum Warrior, Brute Force
Fighting:- Soul Caliber 2, Dead Or Alive 3
Driving:- TOCA Race Driver 2, Burnout 3 (better graphics, smoother gameplay than PS2 version), Sega GT
Flying:- Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge, Secret Weapons Over Normandy

I'm sure other gamers could come up with alternative choices but all of the above are solid titles that are well worth checking out.

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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/11/2004 12:24:56 AM   
Warfare1


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Status: offline 		Thanks for the feedback fellas

Has anyone played the Medal of Honor titles?

Are they any good? What's the replay value?

I hear there is one for the Pacific coming out soon. . .

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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/11/2004 2:11:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've played 'MoH: Allied Assault' on the PC and hated it. They're very linear, very scripted in parts and don't appeal to me at all. However, they've been reviewed well elsewhere so don't take my word as bible. However, if you're looking for WW2 themed shooters then 'Call of Duty: Finest Hour' and 'Brothers in Arms' are both slated for release shortly.

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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/11/2004 7:45:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		I purchased X box on its launching day
The only game that I fished was Halo
After that it is collecting dust...
I purchased PS2 when Sony reduced its price to 200
That was another mistakes
It is collecting dust again
I dont know
I really tried to like them especially after spending all those money on two (especially X box at launching price!!)
But I coudnt..........................................

However, even though it is not a wargame, closest one would be the romance of three kingdoms on PS 2
It is turn based strategy, battles of three kindoms of ancient china

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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/11/2004 8:54:30 AM   
Warfare1


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ORIGINAL: Kevinugly

I've played 'MoH: Allied Assault' on the PC and hated it. They're very linear, very scripted in parts and don't appeal to me at all. However, they've been reviewed well elsewhere so don't take my word as bible. However, if you're looking for WW2 themed shooters then 'Call of Duty: Finest Hour' and 'Brothers in Arms' are both slated for release shortly.


Yes, I had heard about the linear part. I guess that's one of the big problems with consoles: no modding - heheh

I heard Full Spectrum Warrior was supposed to be good. And Brothers In Arms is supposed to be a good tactical war game.

Thanks for the feedback.

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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/11/2004 8:56:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bostonrpgmania

I purchased X box on its launching day
The only game that I fished was Halo
After that it is collecting dust...
I purchased PS2 when Sony reduced its price to 200
That was another mistakes
It is collecting dust again
I dont know
I really tried to like them especially after spending all those money on two (especially X box at launching price!!)
But I coudnt..........................................

However, even though it is not a wargame, closest one would be the romance of three kingdoms on PS 2
It is turn based strategy, battles of three kindoms of ancient china


Why couldn't you like the consoles?

Was it due to the type of games? Or the way the console is setup?

Personally, I have gotten use to playing games on the PC - I guess it would feel a bit odd to be sitting so far away from the screen (via the TV).

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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/11/2004 2:39:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		No doubt about it, I would prefer a PC over console any day. I really don’t know why people invest money in consoles when they already have a computer. There is just no comparison between the performance of a PC with a decent graphics card, and a box that can’t be upgraded.

However, since I do know a bit about consoles I will say that given the choice to get, I would pick PS2. Why? Well I am a bit biased because I really dislike Microsoft for many things, though there are benefits to the PS2. First of all, the PS2 is really two consoles, as you can also play your PS1 games on it. What does Xbox play? Sorry, you’re just stuck with Xbox games. And that brings us to something else, look at the number of PS2 games, compared to Xbox. Why would you limit yourself to a few games? Then to top it off, if you include the PS1 as well as the PS2 wow, there is a lot of games there.

Hell, I find it very amusing how PS2 came with a DVD player years ago, and yet Xbox still doesn’t come with one. Oh wait that’s wrong, you can buy one if you pay 50 bucks extra. Sheesh, why not just save yourself another 50 bucks with PS2?

Ok, I will give Xbox one decent point. If I had a choice which console to develop for, I’d chose Xbox only because it was much easier for us to pull off special effects like reflections and there was more memory space to work it, and a little increase in your polys per second.

However, decent developers can make the PS2 game pretty close to the Xbox versions. And in many cases you will find better graphics in the PS2 versions, (indications that the developers got lazy with the Xbox portations).

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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/11/2004 7:56:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well Pippin I'd argue the toss nowadays over the significance of the PS2's ability to play old PS1 games. At launch then this mattered but today, why would you want to play them? Regarding the PS2's DVD player, yes it is built in but it hasn't got the functionality of the XBox one although, as you say, the Xbox one does come as an optional extra (mine was £15 - don't know how that translates to dollers but I'm guessing it's less than $50 )

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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/11/2004 8:07:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have both but prefer the XBox. Don't expect much in the way of wargames, though, unless you consider FPS with a war tilt, like the 3 Vietnam games they released recenbtly and a few WW2 FPS's.

I prefer the xbox because of its online capability and its from an American company.

But I do own a PS2, the new small ones are very slick and there are a few games which only PS2 has which I must own, like GTA: San Andreas and the upcoming Gran Turismo 4.

For XBox, get Halo 2, get online, and enjoy the mayhem.

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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/11/2004 8:43:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		I`v just joined the "console club" and purchased an xbox, having posted a similiar question at a different forum. The answers were the same. The Xbox seems to be far superior than the playstation 2 in terms of capability, BUT the choice of games available is far less (due to the history that the playstation has). That is the case here in the UK anyway. One may argue that the xbox has fewer titles, but are generally of a superior quality, but thats subjective.

Oh, as for wargames. There is still only one choice...PC. Same goes for RPG and certain shooters. The expandability of the PC in its ability to download mods, levels, extra scenarios etc is what, I feel makes, PC gaming great. (not forgetting PBEM and multiplayer), that said, I love sitting down with the kids and played split screen Halo etc...

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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/12/2004 12:07:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		I owned an Xbox and PS2 and a Gamecube in the past. I sold the XBOX and gave the gamecube to my Nephew. Anything that they come out with on a console can be done just as good or better on a PC (with the exception of Sports Games which I don't play anyways). So I would just as soon use my PC for playing games. The only reason I kept my PS2 is as a backup DVD player if my other one got dirty or wouldn't work

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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/12/2004 6:06:51 AM   
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I prefer the xbox because of its online capability and its from an American company.


Well I am not sure if patriotism of a products origin has anything to do with its technical and usability status. However I do know many people who refuse to touch an X-box because it is American. So I imagine your line of thinking goes hand in hand.

I am no different perhaps, as I admit I am very anti-Microsoft anything these days.

P.S. Did I mention, the PS2 controllers beat the crap out of the junker you get with Xbox?

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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/12/2004 7:11:17 AM   
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Well I am not sure if patriotism of a products origin has anything to do with its technical and usability status.


This has nothing to do with patriotism, just trying to keep my money in this country as much as I can. If that is right or wrong is obviosly for the individual to decide.

I do prefer the XBox in every way to the PS2, except for a couple of standout games the PS2 offers. But being a gaming freak, I had to have both.

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However I do know many people who refuse to touch an X-box because it is American. So I imagine your line of thinking goes hand in hand.

I am no different perhaps, as I admit I am very anti-Microsoft anything these days.

P.S. Did I mention, the PS2 controllers beat the crap out of the junker you get with Xbox?


No you did not mention that, but I value your opinion. The second coming of the xbox controller is very nice compared to the earlier ones, but this is certainly an area that PS2 is better, though not by as much as when released.

But, the complete package still belongs to the xbox. I know too many people who had serious technical issue with the PS2. I have yet to meet anyone who had any problems with the xbox.

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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/12/2004 5:13:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		A bit late to the party, but I would definitely say Xbox.

Not that I don't like the PS2, I love it and the new mini-version is sweet, but it's just that you get more with the Xbox. The PS2 is nothing more than a gamestationd/DVD player. The Xbox can be used for just about anything you use the PC for...except wargames.

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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/12/2004 6:15:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		xbox is better for playing DVDs than ps2. xbox also has a colorstrream option for HDtv. If ya plan on using the contraption for watching DVD I get the xbox.

Its also made in America USA! USA! USA! but I ain't a nationalist like that peasant Mad Cow.

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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/12/2004 7:07:23 PM   
Warfare1


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Status: offline 		Thanks for all the replies fellas.

There is quite a wide range of opinion, but many of you seem to be falling on the side of the XBOX.

It definitely is the more powerful of the two, although it doesn't have quite as many games. Still, more games doesn't necessarily mean better games, as I have no interest in playing many of the console games.

I still play wargames on my PC, but it is aging. It would probably cost me $1,000 bucks or more for a new PC, so I thought $200 bucks for a console would allow me to play many of the FPS and others for a relatively reasonable price. The new PC would be bought later (sheesh PC prices are falling all the time, and they are getting more powerful by the day - they now have 230 GiG harddrives).

At the moment I leaning towards the XBOX.

Have any of you found any personal favourites among the games the consoles offer?

I should state that I am a wargamer and I play traditional turn-based wargames and strategy games: Close Combat, TOAW, MTW, UV, Civ2, Imperialism, Heroes III, Dicsiples II, etc, etc.

Although I own and have played some RTS such as the AoE series. . .
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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/12/2004 10:15:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		In your position the Xbox would be a good choice. Why spend vast sums of money just to play 'Doom 3', 'Half-Life 2' and the like when you can buy an Xbox for a pittance and still get to play the games. If your old system is still up to playing the strategy games of your choice then why spend any more than you have to. 'Halo 2' has just come out and you should be able to get it as part of a 'bundle' with the console at a very good price.

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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/13/2004 2:47:36 AM   
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In your position the Xbox would be a good choice. Why spend vast sums of money just to play 'Doom 3', 'Half-Life 2' and the like when you can buy an Xbox for a pittance and still get to play the games. If your old system is still up to playing the strategy games of your choice then why spend any more than you have to. 'Halo 2' has just come out and you should be able to get it as part of a 'bundle' with the console at a very good price.


This is what I was thinking.

My "old" PC is still going strong - heheh

Plus, PCs can be a pain in the butt sometimes - heheh

A console like the XBOX just works right outta the box - period. I can see the attraction of it. No configuration; no calls to tech; no repeated windows install, etc, etc. . .

When I was in EB the other day, someone was playing a demo of an XBOX hockey game, and the graphics and sound were so good, I actually thought it was a real hockey game on a TV at first.

So the graphics and a few good games would be worth it.

Has anyone played Medal of Honor: Pacific Assault? I saw it in the store today.

Thanks for all the helpful advice

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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/13/2004 8:29:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		How about original Halo?
That was the only X box game that I finished and enjoyed very much.
BTW, the other game that I will probably buy for X box is 'Ghost (star craft themed 3rd person game)
Today, I was thinking between Option I: halo2 (50US) and Option II Campaign of Danube +Max Payne 2.
and I got danube (25$) from matrix +max payne 2 (20 Canadian $-price dropped a lot!) instead of Halo2
but Halo2 seems exteremly interesting

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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/17/2004 6:45:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was doing a bit of looking on the net and found two good sites that take an in-depth look at XBOX games with lots of reviews and screenshots:

http://reviews.teamxbox.com/

http://www.xbreporter.com/list_xbox_games.php

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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/23/2004 8:51:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Xbox is a nice step in technology direction for consoles but ps2 has better games at the moment IMO.

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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/29/2004 9:30:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		sorry i am a bit late on the subject, but I am a big sports gamer, I am here courtesy of Max Football, but i digress. I was an anti console person for the longest time, but finally bit the bullet and bought the xbox, because I liked the graphics better, and the only game that is a must have that isnt on it, is GTA:SA and it will come out later on the box, since they had a deal to delay the xbox release, I am still working on the first 2 to finish so no hurry by me. but the real reason I bought it was because of the football games. Madden is just ok and you are locked into what they want, but i had to give in and get it after EPSN 2k5 and NCAA 2005 came out. I havent been disappointed. My Daughter has a PS2 and it is ok for Spyro and Crash bandicoot games, but the Xbox is better IMHO

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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/30/2004 2:26:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		The new consoles are around the corner so I'd wait. Also the XBOX just hasnt the customer base that PS2 has. So when the new consoles come out the XBOX will be the first to go. Think Betamax and VHS. Betamax was the best but VHS won out.

I'd never buy a console. I bought a PS and then got a 233mhz PC. Havent looked back. COnsoles just churn out the same games over and over again. The PC thankgod still has some varity. For wargames and Sims PC will always win out.

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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/30/2004 2:48:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well the PS3 is at least another year away, probably longer and Microsoft seem to be intent on releasing Xbox2 (or NextBox ) at around the same time. But the consoles are so cheap these days that it would almost be worth getting PS2, Xbox and Gamecube. If you want to play the likes of HL2, Doom 3 or Far Cry you have a choice: Pay £150+ for a new graphics card (with all the hassle of fitting it, ensuring its compatibility with your mobo and soundcard, updating the drivers etc. etc.) or pay £100 for an Xbox? Oh and I know those games aren't out yet (-:

The Xbox/Betamax comparison is not a good one though, whilst the PS2 has a larger customer base Xbox has it's 'Live' facility and is backed by Microsoft who are not likely to withdraw backing now. If anything, it's Nintendo who are going to be the next casualty (they'll probably still lead the handheld market though).

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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/30/2004 4:01:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		For FPS a console is good, infact that and sport is what they where made for isnt it?. Though I sure MP is catered for more with PC's.

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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/30/2004 5:28:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sports, 'fighting games', driving games and the like work best on consoles, FPS are a little better on the PC imho although it depends on the design of the game. What makes 'Xbox Live' good is the ease of connection and the smoothness of the 'gaming experience' without the hassle that can be required of the PC. It's where consoles score over the PC, it's not that they're better but they're generally much easier to get playing on.

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RE: XBOX vs PLAYSTATION 2 - 11/30/2004 6:54:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I do want to point out to me FPS is way better on PC, than consoles. Sports on the other hand mainly come out on consoles. I wouldnt dream of playing a RTS on the console, it just doesnt seem right....also the next gen consoles are slated for holiday '05 releases....but I always buy them at the middle of their life cycle, the games are out and any improvements to the systems are out, plus the prices have droped. Plus with the Xbox and PS2 it also can double as a DVD/CD player.....so they do have a practical purpose.

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