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RE: I Won the Lottery! - 11/28/2004 11:52:08 AM

WiTP_Dude

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ORIGINAL: mucky

What do you think? Id say theres a difference.

OK, I installed some different fonts back in July to make the words appear bigger. This is probably why there is this difference. There is a thread about it somewhere.

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Moulmein Falls - 11/28/2004 11:56:39 AM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/17/43

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TF 3 encounters mine field at Gili Gili (56,94)
Sunk.

Japanese Ships
ML Hirashima, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Night Air attack on Bangkok , at 29,40

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed
Ki-27 Nate: 5 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-49 Helen: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
61 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
11 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Night Air attack on Bangkok , at 29,40

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 11
B-24D Liberator x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48 Lily: 10 destroyed, 7 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 1 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-27 Nate: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
LB-30 Liberator: 2 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
40 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 17

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
6 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
5 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
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Night Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 3

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
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Naval bombardment of Tavoy, at 28,37

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 6 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-27 Nate: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CA Exeter
CA Cornwall
CA Houston
BB Resolution
BB Ramilles
BB Warspite

Japanese ground losses:
138 casualties reported

Runway hits 11
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 4
Port supply hits 3

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TF 77 encounters mine field at Gili Gili (56,94)

Japanese Ships
PC Tama Maru #8

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Day Air attack on 5th Division, at 29,35

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 20
B-17E Fortress x 14

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
89 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
7 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 28,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 4
Ki-48 Lily x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48 Lily: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
BB Resolution

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 28,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48 Lily x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Barracuda

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Moulmein at 29,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48 Lily x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Benkoelen

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Moulmein at 29,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48 Lily x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Bell

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 8000 feet

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Ground combat at Moulmein
Southern Burma is now secured, Mandalay and Singapore are next.

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 147723 troops, 1259 guns, 459 vehicles

Defending force 4018 troops, 10 guns, 4 vehicles

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 6

Japanese assault odds: 350 to 1 (fort level 6)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Moulmein base !!!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Dakota I: 6 destroyed
C-47 Dakota: 4 destroyed
Hurricane II: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
5135 casualties reported
Guns lost 8
Vehicles lost 2

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Ground combat at Kunming
Only two Chinese cities left.

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 23557 troops, 292 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 69086 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied ground losses:
189 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Yunan
This looks like a weak one.

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15937 troops, 184 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 7068 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied ground losses:
36 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Gili Gili

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 496 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 3468 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/18/43

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TF 14 encounters mine field at Batavia (19,59)

Japanese Ships
PC Ch 17

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Night Air attack on Bangkok , at 29,40

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48 Lily: 2 destroyed
Ki-27 Nate: 4 destroyed, 5 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Night Air attack on Bangkok , at 29,40

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 14
B-24D Liberator x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 8 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 4 destroyed, 5 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
LB-30 Liberator: 1 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
44 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
6 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
8 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
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Night Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kunming , at 39,33

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21
Ki-51 Sonia x 85
Ki-21 Sally x 58
Ki-48 Lily x 34
Ki-46-III Dinah x 6

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 182

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
24 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
32 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
20 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
8 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
7 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 47

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
41 casualties reported

Port hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
5 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
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Day Air attack on 16th Division, at 29,35

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 20
B-17E Fortress x 12

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
180 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 16th Division, at 29,35

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 49

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
133 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
12 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 5th Division, at 29,35

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 10
B-17E Fortress x 12

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
54 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet

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Ground combat at Kunming

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 23567 troops, 292 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 68731 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied ground losses:
82 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Yunan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15937 troops, 184 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 7019 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

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Ground combat at Gili Gili

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 496 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 4327 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported

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RE: Moulmein Falls - 11/28/2004 12:58:51 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/19/43

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Night Air attack on Bangkok , at 29,40

Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 14
B-24D Liberator x 4

Allied aircraft losses
LB-30 Liberator: 5 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Resources hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
11 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
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TF 77 encounters mine field at Gili Gili (56,94)

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
LB-30 Liberator: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AK Mie Maru, and is sunk
PC Tama Maru #8

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Day Air attack on Kunming , at 39,33

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21
Ki-51 Sonia x 81
Ki-21 Sally x 60
Ki-48 Lily x 33
Ki-46-III Dinah x 7

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
61 casualties reported

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 185

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
24 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
32 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
19 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
7 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
11 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34
Zeta lashes out at Rangoon in jealousy.

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 33
B-17E Fortress x 26

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
100 casualties reported

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 71

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
12 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 38

No Allied losses

Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
5 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet

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Ground combat at Kunming

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 66844 troops, 713 guns, 14 vehicles

Defending force 68024 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied ground losses:
86 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Gili Gili
Malaria will be a problem for the Allies soon.

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2808 troops, 18 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1616 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Yunan
Yunan holds on somehow.

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 18187 troops, 183 guns, 144 vehicles

Defending force 6998 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Japanese ground losses:
95 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
363 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Gili Gili

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 452 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 4273 troops, 16 guns, 0 vehicles

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/20/43

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Night Air attack on Bangkok , at 29,40

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48 Lily: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 1 destroyed
Ki-27 Nate: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
74 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Night Air attack on Bangkok , at 29,40

Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 7
B-24D Liberator x 4

Allied aircraft losses
LB-30 Liberator: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Resources hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
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Night Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 2 damaged

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 32
B-17E Fortress x 18

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
82 casualties reported

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 79

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 41

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
21 casualties reported

Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
9 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet

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Ground combat at Kunming

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 66885 troops, 712 guns, 14 vehicles

Defending force 67752 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied ground losses:
42 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Yunan
China should be completely controlled within the week.

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 17892 troops, 176 guns, 143 vehicles

Defending force 6372 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
138 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Gili Gili

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 452 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 4268 troops, 18 guns, 0 vehicles

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Midway Invaded! - 11/28/2004 7:01:55 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/21/43

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TF 12 encounters mine field at Kiska Island (92,35)

Japanese Ships
DD Okikaze
DD Namikaze
DD Shinonome
DD Inazuma
DD Hatsushima
DD Hasu, Mine hits 1, on fire

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Night Air attack on Bangkok , at 29,40

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 5

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Resources hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
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Naval bombardment of Midway, at 95,61 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
USN Battleships move in to supress Midway coastal defenses.

57 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
BB Indiana, Shell hits 12
BB South Dakota, Shell hits 2
BB Washington, Shell hits 13

Japanese ground losses:
75 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

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TF 1004 encounters mine field at Midway (95,61)
Here they come, with lots of minesweepers in support.

TF 1004 troops unloading over beach at Midway, 95,61

Allied Ships
MSW Sheldrake
MSW Motive
MSW Herald
MSW Heed
MSW Swallow
MSW Requisite
DD Hatfield
APD Dent
APD Colhoun
DD Drayton
AP W.A. Holbrook, Mine hits 1, on fire
DD Allen
DD McCall
DD Jarvis
DD Ralph Talbot

Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported

Coastal Guns at Midway, 95,61, firing at TF 1004
944 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
AP Ruth Alexander
CA New Orleans, Shell hits 1
CA Astoria, Shell hits 8
AP J. Franklin Bell
AP Harris, Shell hits 1
DD McCall
AP William P. Biddle, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
AP Henry T. Allen, Shell hits 3
DD Russell, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
AP U.S. Grant, Shell hits 10, on fire
DD Ralph Talbot, Shell hits 2
AP Barnett, Shell hits 2
APD Dent, Shell hits 4
AP W.A. Holbrook, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
2475 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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TF 1004 encounters mine field at Midway (95,61)
Allies suffer some losses on the beach.

TF 1004 troops unloading over beach at Midway, 95,61

Allied Ships
MSW Sheldrake
MSW Motive
MSW Herald
MSW Heed
MSW Swallow
MSW Requisite
APD Dent
APD Talbot
DD Drayton
DD Jarvis
AP Mount McKinley, Mine hits 1
DD Allen
AP Ruth Alexander, Mine hits 1

Coastal Guns at Midway, 95,61, firing at TF 1004
441 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
CA New Orleans, Shell hits 9
AP George Clymer, Shell hits 2
DD Jarvis, Shell hits 1
AP Zeilin, Shell hits 3, on fire
AP Hunter Liggett, Shell hits 7, on fire
CL Raleigh
AP W.A. Holbrook, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Ralph Talbot, Shell hits 3, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
1462 casualties reported

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ASW attack at 59,44

Japanese Ships
DD Asagumo
DD Yamakaze
DD Akigumo
DD Karukaya
DD Fuyo
DD Asagao
DD Sanae
DD Shigure
DD Shiratsuyu

Allied Ships
SS Pompon

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Day Air attack on Kunming , at 39,33

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
Ki-51 Sonia x 75
Ki-21 Sally x 46
Ki-48 Lily x 30
Ki-46-III Dinah x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 153

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
24 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
30 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
21 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
15 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 32
B-17E Fortress x 17

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 76

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 44

No Allied losses

Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
9 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
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Day Air attack on 5th Division, at 29,35

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 40

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
84 casualties reported
Guns lost 8
Vehicles lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 22nd Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 29,35

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 21

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
116 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Midway at 95,61
Resolute Betty pilots flying out of Mogami Harbor go on suicide mission.

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 17

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 10 destroyed, 9 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CA New Orleans
CL Raleigh

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 8000 feet
1 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 8000 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 8000 feet
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TF 43 troops unloading over beach at Puerto Princesa, 38,55

Japanese ground losses:
37 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Midway
Ten thousand Americans landed so far.

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2799 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 10341 troops, 50 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

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Ground combat at Kunming
Another large force of Chinese surrender, the Sino-Japanese war is about over.

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 118621 troops, 1151 guns, 163 vehicles

Defending force 67702 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 6

Japanese assault odds: 37 to 1 (fort level 6)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kunming base !!!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
I-16c: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
739 casualties reported
Guns lost 19

Allied ground losses:
99328 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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Ground combat at 40,34

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 15647 troops, 184 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1573 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 151 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
3208 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Yunan
Last Chinese base, wipes away tear.

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15686 troops, 175 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 5956 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

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Ground combat at Midway
Allies have 12,000 Japs and a level 9 fort to overcome.

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 10341 troops, 50 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 11994 troops, 32 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 9)

Allied ground losses:
85 casualties reported
Guns lost 27

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Ground combat at Gili Gili

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 463 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 2317 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/22/43

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TF 1004 encounters mine field at Midway (95,61)
I like being on the other end of the coastal guns for a change.

TF 1004 troops unloading over beach at Midway, 95,61

Allied Ships
MSW Sheldrake
MSW Motive
MSW Herald
MSW Heed
MSW Swallow
MSW Requisite
APD Dent
APD Colhoun
DD Allen
DD Jarvis

Coastal Guns at Midway, 95,61, firing at TF 1004
576 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
CA Quincy, Shell hits 1
AP George Clymer, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AP Zeilin, Shell hits 6, on fire
CA Astoria, Shell hits 7
DD McCall
DD Jarvis, Shell hits 2, on fire
AP Heywood, Shell hits 1
APD Colhoun, Shell hits 5, on fire
AP American Legion, Shell hits 2
CL Raleigh, Shell hits 5
CL Richmond, Shell hits 1
AP President Fillmore, Shell hits 2, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
763 casualties reported

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Night Air attack on Bangkok , at 29,40

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
30 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
10 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Night Air attack on Bangkok , at 29,40

Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 3
B-24D Liberator x 3

Allied aircraft losses
LB-30 Liberator: 1 damaged

Resources hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
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TF 1004 encounters mine field at Midway (95,61)

TF 1004 troops unloading over beach at Midway, 95,61

Allied Ships
MSW Sheldrake
MSW Motive
MSW Herald
MSW Heed
MSW Swallow
MSW Requisite
DD Hatfield
APD Colhoun, on fire
DD Allen
DD Sterett
DD McCall
DD Ralph Talbot, on fire, heavy damage
DD Russell, heavy damage

Coastal Guns at Midway, 95,61, firing at TF 1004
208 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DD McCall, Shell hits 4
CL Richmond, Shell hits 2
CA New Orleans, Shell hits 10

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
174 casualties reported

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TF 1004 encounters mine field at Midway (95,61)

TF 1004 troops unloading over beach at Midway, 95,61

Allied Ships
MSW Sheldrake
MSW Motive
MSW Herald
MSW Heed
MSW Swallow
MSW Requisite
DD Hatfield
APD Colhoun, on fire
DD Drayton
DD McCall

Coastal Guns at Midway, 95,61, firing at TF 1004
287 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
AP American Legion, Shell hits 4, on fire
DD Ellet, Shell hits 4
AP President Johnson, Shell hits 6, on fire
CL Richmond, Shell hits 6
AP President Fillmore, Shell hits 3, on fire

Allied ground losses:
733 casualties reported

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TF 35 encounters mine field at Gili Gili (56,94)

Japanese Ships
MSW Kyo Maru #1
MSW Bisan Maru

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TF 61 encounters mine field at Brunei (32,57)

Japanese Ships
MSW Choun Maru #18
MSW Banshu Maru #56

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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 44

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
69 casualties reported

Port hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Midway at 95,61

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 5

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Crater

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 8000 feet
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TF 1004 encounters mine field at Midway (95,61)

TF 1004 troops unloading over beach at Midway, 95,61

Allied Ships
MSW Sheldrake
MSW Motive
MSW Herald
MSW Heed
MSW Swallow
MSW Requisite
APD Dent
APD Colhoun, on fire

Coastal Guns at Midway, 95,61, firing at TF 1004
138 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
AP President Johnson, Shell hits 16, on fire, heavy damage
DD Drayton

Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Yunan
Yunan should fall tomorrow.

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15749 troops, 177 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 5885 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied ground losses:
84 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Gili Gili

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 463 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 2317 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles

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New AAR Style - 11/28/2004 7:15:37 PM

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I'm thinking about cutting out all material that doesn't seem vital to the flow of the game from here on out in the AAR. This will create shorter reports with a lot more focus on the important events occuring. If the longer approach is still considered best, please let me know.

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RE: Midway Invaded! - 11/28/2004 7:19:35 PM

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Yeah, Zeta's got a problem because he wasn't able to bomb the island prior to invasion. He probably should have done some repeated advanced bombardments with his BBs - stick a supply TF with AD,AE,AOs in it a ways back, and sent the BBs in rotation to wear things down first.

Speaking of bombing islands, does anyone know if B-29s can bomb Hawaii from the West Coast? Zeta may want to consider that once his B-29s start to show up, since he won't have bases in China to use for bombing Japan.

Zeta - BTW - did you recon Midway ahead of time, or keep quiet to keep it a surprise?

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RE: Midway Invaded! - 11/28/2004 8:37:08 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ADavidB

Yeah, Zeta's got a problem because he wasn't able to bomb the island prior to invasion. He probably should have done some repeated advanced bombardments with his BBs - stick a supply TF with AD,AE,AOs in it a ways back, and sent the BBs in rotation to wear things down first.

The problem is Midway is a long way from Seattle, where the ships came from. He can't just stick around because of problems with supply and fuel. Anyway, he landed two divisions but they appear to be damaged a bit. He can still take the place though.

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RE: Midway Invaded! - 11/29/2004 2:54:52 AM

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Well the game screwed up royally. The 4 divisions I landed are now back in SF, except for the few left to unload. I really will not finish this game unless it is fixed becasue it means my ships were wasted for nothing. So at this point I think the game is going to be over. It's piss poor that this had to happen, but it will cost me a few of my few ap's. They only way this can be fixed is if this bug can be over ridden some how.

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RE: Midway Invaded! - 11/29/2004 3:06:21 AM

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Ouch, another dreaded bug huh? Makes me wonder what's in store for us when we all get to 44 and '45.

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RE: Midway Invaded! - 11/29/2004 3:18:34 AM

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Well the game screwed up royally. The 4 divisions I landed are now back in SF, except for the few left to unload. I really will not finish this game unless it is fixed becasue it means my ships were wasted for nothing. So at this point I think the game is going to be over. It's piss poor that this had to happen, but it will cost me a few of my few ap's. They only way this can be fixed is if this bug can be over ridden some how.

Are you saying that you landed 4 divisions on Midway and they "teleported" back to San Fran? Did anything else change or get goofed up? Were the troops in place for more than 1 turn?

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RE: Midway Invaded! - 11/29/2004 3:23:37 AM

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I guess they started to land on the first day, then did the schock attack and lost not many troops. On the second day of two day turns, troops keep unloading. However there was no attacks by eiether side on that day. When I went to do my turn, there are no troops at all on Midway, but a few still on the ships. However, in SF there are the four divisions. Kinda pissed me off, after going to a great football game.

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RE: Midway Invaded! - 11/29/2004 7:33:49 AM

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Man that's a bummer. I feel for you. Exact same thing happened to me in UV. Killed my game also. I really hoped bugs like these didn't make it into WiTP but I guess they did.

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RE: Midway Invaded! - 11/29/2004 8:14:46 AM

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That hoovers big time. I really liked this AAR.

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RE: Midway Invaded! - 11/29/2004 12:14:38 PM

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That hoovers big time. I really liked this AAR.

I feel for ya guys! I've had a few long months worth of playing destroyed by endless bugs. Alright if it was still being tested but this game has been out how long?

I'm going to finish the scenario mod we started but I don't think the game is worth playing at the moment. Have serious doubts it ever will be. Sudden wargame death syndrome. Major pissoff.

At least the research and art is still useful.

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RE: Midway Invaded! - 11/29/2004 1:18:17 PM

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any chance of going back a day/3 days and using a previous saved game to restart?

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RE: Midway Invaded! - 11/29/2004 1:43:51 PM

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any chance of going back a day/3 days and using a previous saved game to restart?

I reloaded the turn but the same thing happens. This might happen again, hard to know since there have been few test of Allied invasions of Midway.

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RE: Midway Invaded! - 11/29/2004 8:16:48 PM

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Dude, Zeta,

This might be in the dumb question category, but have you double checked that save file from before the landings to verify that the units were loaded in their entirety? I've encountered problems with loading where there was room for the whole unit, but only part of it loaded and then a scat-load of supplies loaded. This seemed to happen to me a lot when I would try to load more than one LCU in the same TF. Since then, I only load one unit per TF, then combine them after they are fully loaded.

You guys have put so much effort into this game I figure it's worth the risk to ask a dumb question.

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RE: Midway Invaded! - 11/29/2004 10:53:57 PM

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I will look at it. I still have the turn he sent me before it did this, so I will check. If not maybe I can just turn my whole taskforce around and try some thing else.

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RE: Midway Invaded! - 11/30/2004 12:32:31 AM

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Dude, Zeta,

This might be in the dumb question category, but have you double checked that save file from before the landings to verify that the units were loaded in their entirety? I've encountered problems with loading where there was room for the whole unit, but only part of it loaded and then a scat-load of supplies loaded. This seemed to happen to me a lot when I would try to load more than one LCU in the same TF. Since then, I only load one unit per TF, then combine them after they are fully loaded.

You guys have put so much effort into this game I figure it's worth the risk to ask a dumb question.

Thank you very much, I checked this and that was the case. It loaded all of the support troops and no suppplies/ On the taskforce screen it said the taskforces was loaded a lot more than it was when looking at the ships. So I sent a e mail to dude and ask him if I turned those ships around to SF could be start from the turn right before this happened. I feel like a real big dumb ass and feel real sorry this caused any problems for anyone. I feel a lot better and still think there bugs that need fixed, and do not understand why it does not load something when you tell it to. Makes the game a real pain.

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RE: Midway Invaded! - 11/30/2004 12:47:23 AM

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Admiral Zeta will now turn around and go back to San Francisco to get dressed down by Franklin before being reduced in rank to Seamen.

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RE: Midway Invaded! - 11/30/2004 12:49:20 AM

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I better rush some reinforcements to Midway now I guess...

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RE: Midway Invaded! - 11/30/2004 12:50:21 AM

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Wow, even better than code breaking!

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RE: Midway Invaded! - 11/30/2004 12:50:27 AM

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Yep I am a dumb ass, Now I will check every taskforce I make. Do not think what you see is the truth with this game. You must recheck every thing every turn or bad things happen.

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RE: Midway Invaded! - 11/30/2004 12:54:00 AM

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I check over everything, so when I send in a ship to the combat zone a 0/0 WO isn't leading, so I guess I can check for troops too.

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RE: Midway Invaded! - 11/30/2004 12:56:15 AM

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Yep I am a dumb ass, Now I will check every taskforce I make. Do not think what you see is the truth with this game. You must recheck every thing every turn or bad things happen.

So what you are saying is that you selected 4 divisions plus support to go onto a TF, and only the support loaded, although the TFs looked as if they were full. You ought to retry that particular loading operation - because if the 'puter didn't load what you wanted, then that is as big a problem as your initial theory of teleportation.

I don't trust the computer to load my troops at all. My experience is that loading of multiple LCUs into the same TF always causes problems. And unlike UV, loading supply in addition to troops is now a very risky thing.

Good luck -

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RE: Midway Invaded! - 11/30/2004 1:34:28 AM

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I had 4 divisions a HQ, and a Cd in that taskforce. I load those just on to Ap's no supply and form a supplt taskforce and joined them at sea on the way. The Ap taskforce only loaded the support troops from the divisions and all of the Cd and HQ units.

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RE: Midway Invaded! - 11/30/2004 1:55:20 AM

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I had 4 divisions a HQ, and a Cd in that taskforce. I load those just on to Ap's no supply and form a supplt taskforce and joined them at sea on the way. The Ap taskforce only loaded the support troops from the divisions and all of the Cd and HQ units.

Do you remember which order you "clicked" on the troops? Did you select the combat units first or the HQ/CD first?

I find it very strange that the support units loaded and not the combat units. I always see support units "left behind" if I don't use enough ships to take everyone.

Also, did you try to load a combat engineering unit? CEs, CDs and HQs tend to be real hogs when it comes to APs.

Thanks again -

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RE: Midway Invaded! - 11/30/2004 2:41:51 AM

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David,

I've run into this in my games vs. the AI, and so have some other posters. It is a real pain and certainly is a bug. I have had an AK TF with 150,000 capacity, and tried to load just 2 (TWO) units (one being a division, so I needed the room). The result was 1 unit loaded partially on 1 AK, the other unit spread out over a bizillion AK's, and (what seemed like) 99% of the capacity of the TF loaded supplies. I had many other examples with AP's and all, so I finally just started loading 1 unit per TF. Combining TF's after loading or while only supplies are still being loaded has yet to cause a problem.

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RE: Midway Invaded! - 11/30/2004 2:59:46 AM

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ORIGINAL: ADavidB

quote:

ORIGINAL: Zeta16

I had 4 divisions a HQ, and a Cd in that taskforce. I load those just on to Ap's no supply and form a supplt taskforce and joined them at sea on the way. The Ap taskforce only loaded the support troops from the divisions and all of the Cd and HQ units.

Do you remember which order you "clicked" on the troops? Did you select the combat units first or the HQ/CD first?

I find it very strange that the support units loaded and not the combat units. I always see support units "left behind" if I don't use enough ships to take everyone.

Also, did you try to load a combat engineering unit? CEs, CDs and HQs tend to be real hogs when it comes to APs.

Thanks again -

Dave Baranyi

I clicked on the troops first then the rest. Then the next turn I looked and it said a number real close to amount of all them put together, so I thought they were all on it. I did load only troops may be this does not work real well. I also used all Ap's. I have noticed that nothing loads the same. One time it could be one way another time it could be another. I am also having problems loading air units on Ak's. It says they are loading but it doesn't load any thing. The next turn I go to load the planes and it says they are loading. So it is real hard for me to set up these invasions, since nothing loads the way it should. It took me two extra weeks to launch the aborted invasion. It seems nothing ever loads in a normal way and makes it real hard on a player. So the next invasioon I do, it will probably take a month to make sure everything is load the right way.

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RE: Midway Invaded! - 11/30/2004 5:42:16 AM

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I clicked on the troops first then the rest. Then the next turn I looked and it said a number real close to amount of all them put together, so I thought they were all on it. I did load only troops may be this does not work real well. I also used all Ap's. I have noticed that nothing loads the same. One time it could be one way another time it could be another. I am also having problems loading air units on Ak's. It says they are loading but it doesn't load any thing. The next turn I go to load the planes and it says they are loading. So it is real hard for me to set up these invasions, since nothing loads the way it should. It took me two extra weeks to launch the aborted invasion. It seems nothing ever loads in a normal way and makes it real hard on a player. So the next invasioon I do, it will probably take a month to make sure everything is load the right way.

I have a few rules of thumb that I use in loading ships.

First off, I never load supplies along with troops - it used to work well in UV, but it doesn't work in WitP - things always get goofed up and troops get left behind.

Second, and equally important, I always give myself a minimum 30% extra space beyond the largest load number frequired for a given unit for whatever type of ship I am using. Notice that you see different requirements between the "list troops" command from the base screen and the value that you see when you click on the actual land unit. I've found that if I try to load an 1800 load LCU onto a 2000 capacity AP it will take forever and will leave some troops (usually support) behind.

Third, I try to use multiple ships for one LCU. So, for example, if I have an LCU with a load requirement of 2600 on an AP, I'll preferentially use two 2000 APs instead of one 4000 AP. They will also load faster.

Fourth, when loading big units, I use AKs instead of APs. For some reason if I want to load a 26,000 load division, it goes at least twice as fast if I use five 7000 capacity AKs instead of six 6000 capacity APs. Sure, there is one more ship, but it means that I can load in one or two days instead of a week. (Now, how are all those troops being dumped into some old freighter? Maybe via shute into the cargo holds? <L>)

All of the above help with unloading too.

As far as aircraft on AKs go - I just pick a large AK, pick and air group to go into it, and ignore it. It sometimes leaves the next day, sometimes the day after. It seems random to me.

Dave Baranyi

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