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How repair a system damage - 1/17/2005 1:26:28 AM

Kelm

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Hello,

I have just one (maybe stupid) question.

I am playing the scenario 5 Guadalcanal with the US. After a battle i have my two CV with several damages, the Lexington has 13 system damage, and the Yorktown has 59. I have sent my task force to an allied port for reparation, but i dont see any progress in the system reparation. I have also sent one sub who has been damaged in another port, and the system reparation dont appears to progress.

For the CV task force, i have reached the port the 05/13/42, now i'am at 05/18/42 and i have not see any progress in the reparation.

So it is usual that the reparation are so slow, or is there a thing that i have not made to begin the reparation. My task force is docked, but i have not disband it. Just a last thing, how can i send my CV to pearl harbor to start the reparation.

I'am sorry for these questions, i have already see another thread with that subject, and one forumer talk about sending the damaged boats in pearl harbor...it's why i have asked these last question.

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RE: How repair a system damage - 1/17/2005 2:53:48 AM

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Disband in the biggest port around and hopefully one that has a repair yard in it.

Repairs can take a LOOOONNNNNGGGGG time to complete. The bigger the ship, the longer it takes to fix.

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RE: How repair a system damage - 1/17/2005 4:41:22 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kelm

Hello,

I have just one (maybe stupid) question.

I am playing the scenario 5 Guadalcanal with the US. After a battle i have my two CV with several damages, the Lexington has 13 system damage, and the Yorktown has 59. I have sent my task force to an allied port for reparation, but i dont see any progress in the system reparation. I have also sent one sub who has been damaged in another port, and the system reparation dont appears to progress.

For the CV task force, i have reached the port the 05/13/42, now i'am at 05/18/42 and i have not see any progress in the reparation.

So it is usual that the reparation are so slow, or is there a thing that i have not made to begin the reparation. My task force is docked, but i have not disband it. Just a last thing, how can i send my CV to pearl harbor to start the reparation.

I'am sorry for these questions, i have already see another thread with that subject, and one forumer talk about sending the damaged boats in pearl harbor...it's why i have asked these last question.

What port(s) did you send your ships to?

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RE: How repair a system damage - 1/17/2005 5:30:46 AM

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The question of "which port" is relevant. In the South and Southwest Pacific, Sydney is the only port capable of repairing CVs. I had my CVs in Aukland for nearly a month with no progress -- I moved them to Sydney, and all is fine.

Also, I think there is a bug with the Lexington. If you are already at Sydney, and you have "update on 6/42" at "yes", change it to "no", and see if you note any progress. It seemed to work for me . . . though it may be coincidence. This may not have any affect for you because it is not yet 6/42.

Thayne

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RE: How repair a system damage - 1/17/2005 1:04:27 PM

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Thanks for your reply.

Yesterday i have sent my CVs to Cairns, because it was the closest port )with a good value (6)) in range of my task force. I have just docked the CVs and during 5 days, i have not seen any progress in the reparation. Today i have restarted and sending my CVs to Noumea, a port with the same value (6). I have disband my TF, and after several days, this time i see several good progress in reparation.
I have in this port one damaged sub and CA, and i see also progress in the reparation.

BTW, it there a means, to know which port can (or can't) repair damaged system on a boat ?

And a last question, In the intelligence report, i see the points lost for my four allied ships damaged. But i don't see any damaged points for Japanese ships. I have damaged many Japanese AK in tulagi at Gili Gili and Buna. And during the carriers battle i have damaged one Japanese CV with 11 bombs hits and the two others with five and one bombs hits. Is there a time delay to see in the intellignence report the point for the japanese ships, or must i see a visuel report for these ships ?

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RE: How repair a system damage - 1/17/2005 1:13:40 PM

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just a question : what is important to repair fastly ? the size of the port, the AR's, and ? The supply ? The engineers ? The naval HQ?

Harrer

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RE: How repair a system damage - 1/17/2005 1:35:11 PM

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just a question : what is important to repair fastly ? the size of the port, the AR's, and ? The supply ? The engineers ? The naval HQ?

Harrer

Size of the port is what matters first but AR and naval HQ both add to the size of port for repairing ships (AR + 1 size for up to 4 ships, HQ +1 for each 50 support squad for all ships (I believe)). Then repair yards will fasten repairs also.

My own conclusion is that Naval HQ are far more efficient than AR,so they are at main bases while AR are at secondary bases. By the way Naval HQ also speed loading of ships.

And yes, there should be supplies in your base to do some repair. Don't know how much, but in doubt having 20000 supplies somewhere seems enough to trigger much of the game mechanisms (replacement of planes, troops, upgrades and so on).

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RE: How repair a system damage - 1/17/2005 3:28:20 PM

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indeed, my fastest repair yards as japan all have level 9-10 harbours, with 200 ship repair points, a naval HQ and more than 20k suplies. I basically get a 1 repair point a day on all capitall ships inside (do not put the small stuff with the big guys)

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RE: How repair a system damage - 1/17/2005 3:56:54 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kelm

Thanks for your reply.

Yesterday i have sent my CVs to Cairns, because it was the closest port )with a good value (6)) in range of my task force. I have just docked the CVs and during 5 days, i have not seen any progress in the reparation. Today i have restarted and sending my CVs to Noumea, a port with the same value (6). I have disband my TF, and after several days, this time i see several good progress in reparation.
I have in this port one damaged sub and CA, and i see also progress in the reparation.

BTW, it there a means, to know which port can (or can't) repair damaged system on a boat ?

And a last question, In the intelligence report, i see the points lost for my four allied ships damaged. But i don't see any damaged points for Japanese ships. I have damaged many Japanese AK in tulagi at Gili Gili and Buna. And during the carriers battle i have damaged one Japanese CV with 11 bombs hits and the two others with five and one bombs hits. Is there a time delay to see in the intellignence report the point for the japanese ships, or must i see a visuel report for these ships ?

OK - you will take MUCH longer to repair anything in Cairns than say Sydney. Your lack of any progress is not surprising in this case.

You WILL repair damage, but it will take a very long time. Bases like these are best used to hide ships against Naval Attack options from aircraft, emergency support (get fires, floods under control), or forward basing certain ships (i.e. subs with an AS, float planes with an AV) as well as supply functions.

Best to move your ships to Sydney - it is a large port and has a repair yard. Other large ports with repair yards are alternatives (i.e. Melbourne) if Sydney is overcrowded. If you can get some ARs to Australia, best put them in your largest ports if speed of repair is the priority. You can effectively make Sydney a size 14 port with 4 ARs (more won't help, though).

IIRC - you won't see any points for damaged enemy ships on your screens until the end of the game.

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RE: How repair a system damage - 1/17/2005 4:51:48 PM

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Had the same problem before starting the big game.

Within scenario 5, Brisbane and Noumea are the only decent ports available.
No repair yards, naval HQs or AR ships were usually available either.

Learned the hard way to leave ships in the closest level 6 port till all flotation damage is gone.
Then move it to a bigger port, otherwise repair will take a very long time.

IIRC for the small scenarios, when you disband a damaged ship in Noumea, you should get the option "return to Pearl Harbour" at the bottom of the ship detail screen (opened from the 'ships in port' list?)
With that option you can return the ship to Pearl, repairing it a lot faster.

(even at Pearl, repairing 60 sys damage will take over 6 months probably)

Hope this helps....

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RE: How repair a system damage - 1/17/2005 4:55:56 PM

Kelm

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quote:

OK - you will take MUCH longer to repair anything in Cairns than say Sydney. Your lack of any progress is not surprising in this case.

You WILL repair damage, but it will take a very long time. Bases like these are best used to hide ships against Naval Attack options from aircraft, emergency support (get fires, floods under control), or forward basing certain ships (i.e. subs with an AS, float planes with an AV) as well as supply functions.

Best to move your ships to Sydney - it is a large port and has a repair yard. Other large ports with repair yards are alternatives (i.e. Melbourne) if Sydney is overcrowded. If you can get some ARs to Australia, best put them in your largest ports if speed of repair is the priority. You can effectively make Sydney a size 14 port with 4 ARs (more won't help, though).

IIRC - you won't see any points for damaged enemy ships on your screens until the end of the game

Ok, with your help i will understand much better the game mechanics.
BTW i play with scenario 5 Guadalcanal (because I am still in phase of training with the game), and this scenario has just one area; South east pacific zone. I have checked the list for available ships, and i have not see any AR ships. i think that this usual like i'am just at the begining of this campaign.

Just a last question, how to send a fleet to sidney. I have not see any option that allow that, in any port. (Maybe it's not possible to make this in this scenario, because the time of repair will exceed the completion date of this campaign (i believe it ending in may 43).

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RE: How repair a system damage - 1/17/2005 5:05:25 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kelm

Just a last question, how to send a fleet to sidney. I have not see any option that allow that, in any port. (Maybe it's not possible to make this in this scenario, because the time of repair will exceed the completion date of this campaign (i believe it ending in may 43).

Made a mistake there, Sydney is indeed not on the map for scen 5, only Brisbane is.

IIRC only damaged Australian ships can go off-map to Sydney, like damaged USA ships can be sent to Pearl.
Cannot try it right now, but it should be an option for damaged ships disbanded in Noumea or Brisbane I believe.
Maybe an expert can comment on this?

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RE: How repair a system damage - 1/17/2005 5:41:21 PM

Kelm

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I dont see any option to send my damaged CVs to Pearl harbor at Noumea. (i have disband my TF) but repairs advance slowly. maybe it's just not possible to send ships in another zone in this scenario.

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RE: How repair a system damage - 1/17/2005 7:11:53 PM

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quote:

Just a last question, how to send a fleet to sidney. I have not see any option that allow that, in any port. (Maybe it's not possible to make this in this scenario, because the time of repair will exceed the completion date of this campaign (i believe it ending in may 43).

Alas - i have not played scen. 5 - so i don't know how that would work. Brisbane may be a larger port than Noumea - if it is, your ships are better off there for repair. If you have any ARs, disband them into the port with your disbanded damaged ships. Ships at dock but not disbanded WILL repair, but at VERY slow rates.

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RE: How repair a system damage - 1/17/2005 8:34:33 PM

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quote:

I dont see any option to send my damaged CVs to Pearl harbor at Noumea. (i have disband my TF) but repairs advance slowly. maybe it's just not possible to send ships in another zone in this scenario.

Any scenario that is set to Score Damage will not allow ships to be sent off map for repairs as the damage is counted towards the score.

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RE: How repair a system damage - 1/17/2005 9:05:06 PM

Kelm

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quote:

Any scenario that is set to Score Damage will not allow ships to be sent off map for repairs as the damage is counted towards the score.

Ok, Before writing this question I acknowledge to have not checked that particular point in the doc/briefing. But how we know that a scenario is set to score damage. ( i'am not sure but i believe that scenario 1 to 7 are "limited" in one zone, so are they all concerned in set score damage also ?

Sorry if i ask too many questions, but the more I play with this game, and the more I put myself questions about it .

Anyway thanks for your information.

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RE: How repair a system damage - 1/17/2005 9:23:58 PM

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Scenario Editor:

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RE: How repair a system damage - 1/17/2005 9:50:13 PM

Kelm

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Ok...next time i will think twice about that before asking a question. (but i must say that until now i have never launched the scenario editor).

Thanks you.

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