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Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 3:42:04 AM   
herbieh

 

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Status: offline 		OK, Wobbly spread me all over the place and beat the crap out of me everywhere I invaded, and we go for a restart in Feb 42

Tabpub smashes half my fleet, lures me into a trap, and kills more APs and men than even he realises by Feb 42, and I have to ask for a restart....

This is developing into a very nasty pattern.

How many other guys out there so badly got it wrong so early

(my crime - trying to take it all at once, right now, and forgetting there is an opposition)

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 3:45:34 AM   
33Vyper


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Joined: 10/20/2004
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Status: offline 		dont play Japan first....learn as the allies. It is great to learn how to run ... is very helpful as the Japanese player later on

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 3:46:48 AM   
kellyc

 

Posts: 142
Joined: 5/10/2004
Status: offline 		Oh yeah,
Tom Hunter has launched counter attacks in China, Java, and the PI. Over confidence is a real threat. I over reached and attacked without proper support and numbers. We're at the end of Feb and it's just heart wrenching but it's interesting pulling defeat from the jaws of victory. However, as a new Japanese fanboy, I'm learning what not to do the hard way and it's paying off in my other game.

Another sucky player
Kelly

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 4:04:21 AM   
mogami


Posts: 12789
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From: You can't get here from there
Status: offline 		Hi, It's Apr 42 and I've lost 4 CV as Japan. Java not taken (Versus Dadman)
It's June 1942 and I've lost 5 CV as Japan Java and Sumatra not taken (Sveint)
I'm not asking for a restart. I'm just starting my 1943 defense in 1942

Things better in other games because I learned a lot in these two (numbers 1 and 2 began)

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 4:07:58 AM   
Tom Hunter


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Status: offline 		Kelly,

You have not lost any CVs yet there is still hope.

PS I am on the road until Friday so your fleet is safe for the moment.

I agree with 33vyper its hard enough to play this game well as the allies when you have no experience I can only begin to imagine the screw ups I would have made if my first game had been as Japan.

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 4:37:33 AM   
rroberson

 

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first game I lost 4 out of 5 american carriers by the 2nd month.

2nd game a clean sweep....all american carriers gone.

Reiyc cleaned my clock of carriers by jan of our game

ggraven sank 4 japanese carriers day three of the war.

reiyc took out 5 of six carriers 76 days into the war.

If you want a quick victory...play me.



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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 4:47:27 AM   
rogueusmc


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From: Texas...what country are YOU from?
Status: offline 		Wobbly is being a pain in the ass with those CVs between Hawaii and San Fransisco. He hasn't got my carriers yet and he narrowly missed some wounded battlewagons from Pearl headed to the West Coast. He's sunk a few freighters and DDs and a CA or two.

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 5:11:25 AM   
Blackwatch_it


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Status: offline 		Kelly,
Tom is a tought and aggressive player, never let him know when you have problems.




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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 5:28:51 AM   
Mr.Frag


Posts: 13410
Joined: 12/18/2002
From: Purgatory
Status: offline 		There are no bad players ... just unlucky dice ... keep telling yourself that

Still waiting for someone to top what Mogami did to me when he wacked KB with the entire Dutch airforce and sent me fleeing for a port!

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 5:56:19 AM   
rogueusmc


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From: Texas...what country are YOU from?
Status: offline 		Mogami is slow to get started but I am waiting for the @#$%^slap...

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 6:12:13 AM   
Hornblower


Posts: 1361
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From: New York'er relocated to Chicago
Status: offline 		I lost Hong Kong 3 days in on one game...

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 6:18:37 AM   
Mr.Frag


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I lost Hong Kong 3 days in on one game...


Thats normal, thats not bad. Now fi you want to talk about loosing Singapore in 3 days, thats being gifted!

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 6:25:39 AM   
rogueusmc


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Status: offline 		I always lose HK in a few days.

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 6:41:53 AM   
Hornblower


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ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

quote:

I lost Hong Kong 3 days in on one game...


Thats normal, thats not bad. Now fi you want to talk about loosing Singapore in 3 days, thats being gifted!


That was the last of my "training games." Current snr 15 game its 1/24/02 and Sing fell yesterday, but Hong Kong still lives!!! don't ask, i have no idea... Oh rangoon's days are numbered two... 45k of troops are now facing what i think are 2 IJA divisions- which begs a question, i have a burma bgd in the next hex, if i loose the base, do the rangoon boys retreat that way, or do they become guests of the emporer?

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 6:47:17 AM   
Drex

 

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From: Chico,california
Status: offline 		I got 3 "first games" going right now and am losing in 2 of the three games. i think most of us are beginners until a year of "real time" play is logged.

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 6:56:59 AM   
rtrapasso


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Hornblower

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

quote:

I lost Hong Kong 3 days in on one game...


Thats normal, thats not bad. Now fi you want to talk about loosing Singapore in 3 days, thats being gifted!


That was the last of my "training games." Current snr 15 game its 1/24/02 and Sing fell yesterday, but Hong Kong still lives!!! don't ask, i have no idea... Oh rangoon's days are numbered two... 45k of troops are now facing what i think are 2 IJA divisions- which begs a question, i have a burma bgd in the next hex, if i loose the base, do the rangoon boys retreat that way, or do they become guests of the emporer?



It will depend if the ZOC that the IJA put on the exit hex is still there when Rangoon falls. How long a ZOC (zone of control) lasts is a matter that is still debated (last i looked). Press the "W" key and see if the retreat hex has a J in it. If it does, your exit is blocked (even if there is also an "A" for Allied in the same hex.)

Even with 2 IJA division, your 45K men still may be able to hold out with an active defense, constant air attacks on the IJA, etc. Especially if you can slow them down before they get to Rangoon. Malaria will eat them up in the jungles outside Rangoon - while Rangoon itself is malaria free. Keep bombing them and it will slow them immensely (well, sometimes) while you build your forts in Rangoon.

Of course, this is against the AI. If you are facing a human, get ready to start whistling "Colonel Bogie" and start driving railroad spikes to build your bridge over the river Kwai.

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 7:09:34 AM   
Hornblower


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Status: offline 		Thanks! I had no idea. IS that in the Manual??? I was leaning toward trying to hold out. BUT, with Sing just falling i'm assuming that the IJA will rush troops and more air assets into burma now. Don't know if my fighters can keep the sea lanes open... I think i hyjacked my first thread!

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 7:12:09 AM   
rogueusmc


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From: Texas...what country are YOU from?
Status: offline 		In order for it to be called 'hijacking' it would have to be intentional...not luck of the draw...you're giving yourself too much credit...

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 7:19:49 AM   
rtrapasso


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ORIGINAL: Hornblower

Thanks! I had no idea. IS that in the Manual??? I was leaning toward trying to hold out. BUT, with Sing just falling i'm assuming that the IJA will rush troops and more air assets into burma now. Don't know if my fighters can keep the sea lanes open... I think i hyjacked my first thread!


Malaria is covered in section 12.0 of the rules. Mogami stated in a thread that units do not recover fatigue in malaria zones, but i don't actually see that in the rules.

The ZOC stuff is a new addition to the game (version 1.30 and up, iirc). So, no, it is not in the manual.

EDIT: It MIGHT be included in the "What's New" upgrade notes.

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 7:24:23 AM   
Hornblower


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Status: offline 		I'm in Chicago.. Thats international! Being as i am From NY, chicago is a foriegn land...

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 7:38:51 AM   
Mr.Frag


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Mogami stated in a thread that units do not recover fatigue in malaria zones


Too busy being sick all the time.

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 10:17:55 AM   
pauk


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ORIGINAL: herbieh

OK, Wobbly spread me all over the place and beat the crap out of me everywhere I invaded, and we go for a restart in Feb 42

Tabpub smashes half my fleet, lures me into a trap, and kills more APs and men than even he realises by Feb 42, and I have to ask for a restart....

This is developing into a very nasty pattern.

How many other guys out there so badly got it wrong so early

(my crime - trying to take it all at once, right now, and forgetting there is an opposition)


Don't worry, think i'm even "better" then you. Pfnognoff sinks my 2CVL for nothing, send my Ise to the bottom of the sea. It is early june '42.

Oh, i almost forget i lose rabaul, rangoon and not important bases around rangoon....

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 10:34:16 AM   
ChezDaJez


Posts: 3436
Joined: 11/12/2004
From: Chehalis, WA
Status: offline 		Welcome to the club.

Besides not knowing what I'm doing, I don't do what I know!

This game looks sooooo easy then whack!!! The best laid plans....

Chez

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 4:41:39 PM   
mc3744


Posts: 1957
Joined: 3/9/2004
From: Italy
Status: offline 		As Allies, in May '42 campaign against General Billy

By July '42 I had lost: PM, GiliGili, Koumanc, Efate, Luganville, Fiji, 2 British CVs 1 US CV , approx. 1600 airplanes (against 800 Japs) , I gave up before I loosing Noumea.

Now beat me!

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 5:19:18 PM   
Nikademus


Posts: 25684
Joined: 5/27/2000
From: Alien spacecraft
Status: offline 		I am a certified sucky Japan player. I have no plan......I'm more confused that a stenographer after a goodwill planning session between top IJA and IJN leaders. Only I would choose to attack Burma and Malaya at the same time and it took me 1.5 months to capture Rabaul from 3 Oz battalions.

mommy......

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 5:19:41 PM   
freeboy

 

Posts: 9088
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From: Colorado
Status: offline 		I ran several fleets into Rons fortress Batavia... oops.. next game I took Batavia via the overland route.. lessen learned

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 5:20:29 PM   
freeboy

 

Posts: 9088
Joined: 5/16/2004
From: Colorado
Status: offline 		Current game vs Zeta 16, lst 1000 plus heavy bombers using them unescorted ...
oh well, lost five cv in 42 to his 2
lost five bb in one month in mid 43 and wanted to quit! relly upset by my mistake not setting to retire and having three old boats torpedoed...
everyone makes mistakes
Z did once I think???

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 5:26:01 PM   
Blackwatch_it


Posts: 247
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Status: offline 		What about loosing five CVLs and CVEs agaist no allied loss as japanese player in jan 42?

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 6:39:16 PM   
mc3744


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ORIGINAL: Blackwatch_it

What about loosing five CVLs and CVEs agaist no allied loss as japanese player in jan 42?


This is real good!

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RE: Worst player ever - 2/10/2005 6:52:10 PM   
Blackwatch_it


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quote:

ORIGINAL: mc3744

quote:

ORIGINAL: Blackwatch_it

What about loosing five CVLs and CVEs agaist no allied loss as japanese player in jan 42?


This is real good!


And I'm trying to improve ........

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