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How do you stay organized? - 3/6/2005 10:15:40 AM   
Crimguy


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Status: offline 		I decided to put my Rising Sun game on the back burner in favor of the big one - Scenario 15. I enjoyed watching the Japanese walk all over SE Asia, but felt empty knowing I wouldn't get the opportunity to get back at them.

So here I am, on December 8, 1941. Pearl fared pretty well. The Tennessee is on the bottom, but all my other bb's have a shot of being repaired in this millenium.

As I scroll around the map I am reminded just how big this game is. How the heck do you keep it all organized? How do you remember to check on certain areas/cities/bases?

I'm figuring that seldom is forgetting something fatal. This game does, after all, go day by day, and just because you didn't check up on TF 1142 on Tuesday doesn't mean it won't be waiting for you on Wednesday . . .
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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/6/2005 10:31:26 AM   
mogami


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Status: offline 		Hi, I don't claim to be the most organized player around but I think the first step to staying organized is to stop STOP! before you do anything and decide on a plan. Once you have a plan keeping track of things is a lot easier (for me) because I know what is supposed to be going on.

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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/6/2005 10:38:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have a plan/loose idea of how I plan to prosecute things -- think BIG arrows -- but I worry about which individual bases to capture as I go (it depends to some extent on what the other guy does, be he human or artificial). The other (geek squad) thing I do is grid off a blank sheet of paper (Excel is handy, too) and tabulate which units I'm sending where. "Can't you do that from within the game?" you may ask. Sort of, yeah, but nowhere is there a tabulated list of what unit assignments are and who's preparing for what, so you can see it all at one glance. That's why I do the sheet -- otherwise I'm always forgetting which TFs to allocate to certain areas. Plus there's always the off-chance one TF will, of its own free will, start unloading on Canton Island for no particular reason at all. That's my 'system.' It may be goofy and/or unnecessary, but it works for me.

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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/6/2005 10:38:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well here is how I do it.

Make a battle plan and take a lot of time for my Setup. (up to 2 or 3 hours….)

Then I start to organize clockwise from San Francisco to Pearl Harbour and all Island between Pearl and Noumea then go South to Sydney etc until I’m back at SF

In each sector I watch first the ships then the planes and at finally the LCU.

I make the priority if I want to hold or evacuate the Philippines, the DEI, Singapore and Rangoon finally I choose my Main Defence Area’s (MDA) (i.e. Noumea).

Main priority as Allies is to defend and get supply to Australia and the MDA’s until the mid/end of 1942)

Once all the units are organized in the Setup every turn is easy to handle (max 45 minutes)

And be careful with your Carriers… If you loose them the Japs can do what ever they want with you as a Allie.

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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/6/2005 11:02:20 AM   
BlackVoid


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Status: offline 		Just 2-3 hours for first turn?

My first tuns with WITP:
Allies 6-8 hrs
Japan 8-12 hrs

After that its 20-90 mins/turn...

But, I am not organized at all, so I cannot play more than 1 big campaign at any one time. I just go around and check stuff what I remember...

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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/6/2005 12:02:07 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DeepSix

I have a plan/loose idea of how I plan to prosecute things -- think BIG arrows -- but I worry about which individual bases to capture as I go (it depends to some extent on what the other guy does, be he human or artificial). The other (geek squad) thing I do is grid off a blank sheet of paper (Excel is handy, too) and tabulate which units I'm sending where. "Can't you do that from within the game?" you may ask. Sort of, yeah, but nowhere is there a tabulated list of what unit assignments are and who's preparing for what, so you can see it all at one glance. That's why I do the sheet -- otherwise I'm always forgetting which TFs to allocate to certain areas. Plus there's always the off-chance one TF will, of its own free will, start unloading on Canton Island for no particular reason at all. That's my 'system.' It may be goofy and/or unnecessary, but it works for me.


Oh paper, I started doing that... and then I ended up spending half my time organizing my papers instead of organizing my forces I think we should have gotten a planning staff with the game, or atleast a personal secretary (Patch?.. uhum, and can she upgrade please? ).

Now I just plan in my head and hope I keep track. If I forget something, ah well.. it´s a war, I don´t expect everything to go smoothly.

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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/6/2005 3:28:17 PM   
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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/6/2005 4:50:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		First, as Mogami says, I try to make sure I have a strategic plan. This is probably the hardest thing for me. I'm better at thinking tactically than strategically. I like the idea of forcing myself to write down destinations from ground units; I might try that. I find I'm always forgetting to set Prep Points, or at least procrastinating doing so. It's usually because I'm not quite sure of my Grand Strategic Plan.

Second, as Japan, I periodically copy down production information and put it in an Excel spread sheet so that I can see general trends in production. E.g., is Naval Shipyard going up or down?

Third, I try to read the Intel screen thoroughly at the beginning of each turn. I also try to remember to read Sigint at this point too.

Fourth, as either side, I tend to work from one edge of the map to the other. As the Allies, east to west; as Japan, typically west to east.

Fifth, I follow Jaws' method of plotting orders: naval first, air second, ground last. I don't always do it that way; it just seems most natural to me. I figure out where I want ships to go, and then I figure out who's gonna give 'em air cover.

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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/6/2005 5:03:34 PM   
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First, as Mogami says, I try to make sure I have a strategic plan. This is probably the hardest thing for me. I'm better at thinking tactically than strategically.


You have one strategic goal as Japan ... Get Oil and keep it producing for as long as possible.

You have one strategic goal as the Allies ... Knock Japan into the dark ages.

Everything else is tactics

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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/6/2005 5:08:54 PM   
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You have one strategic goal as Japan ... Get Oil and keep it producing for as long as possible.

You have one strategic goal as the Allies ... Knock Japan into the dark ages.

Everything else is tactics

Hehe, well, that makes me feel better then. :)

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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/6/2005 5:30:21 PM   
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quote:

You have one strategic goal as Japan ... Get Oil and keep it producing for as long as possible.

You have one strategic goal as the Allies ... Knock Japan into the dark ages.

Everything else is tactics


True, but the approaches are uniquely different. The Allies can afford to be clumsy and wasteful (with the passage of time), just like in historical real life. Japan on the other hand needs someone carefully watching their ROI to maximize it, less they lose early (as opposed to losing later).

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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/6/2005 5:45:36 PM   
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The Allies can afford to be clumsy and wasteful


I knew I'd be good at something in this game

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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/6/2005 6:30:41 PM   
Mr.Frag


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Japan on the other hand needs someone carefully watching their ROI to maximize it, less they lose early


Absolutely, I have always said that it is up to Japan to loose the game, The Allies do not have the combat power to stop Japan during the early years, but Japan certainly has the ability to give away the game during that time period.

Once again, it comes down to the goal. If it doesn't aid in securing Oil, why are you doing it?

A further breakdown of Japan's one goal is as follows:

a) Get the oil

b) Protect the oil

c) Deny avenues of attack against the oil

And the forth one that you really need to keep in the back of your mind.

d) win the game *if* the Allies are silly enough to let you

This one is only a choice if through playing an over agressive game, they have gifted you this possibility by incurring losses that can not be handled by the massive replacement stream coming to them. ie: sinking large formations of troops, loosing CV's for no gain, etc.

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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/6/2005 8:14:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here is my basic approach. I hope it's useful. I would hope there's an easier way, but, here you go:

1. Start at the most recognized base you own (maybe Tokyo or Pearl).
2. Check EVERYTHING you want to check in that hex alone, be it ships going through or stationed there, or production, or air assets, anything.
3. Scroll to the next base and repeat. This is the longest part of my turns dealing with what's in the base hexes. I probably save the game 2 or 3 times when going through bases, and these saves have the name of the next base in the comments, so I'll know where to start next time. when done I make a save with the comment of 'cities' such that I know I'm done with the bases on that save.
4. When through with the base hexes and what are in them, scan over the map and look for TF's not in base hexes and maybe put the cursor over them to see if they're doing what you expect them to. There is a map that can show all or some of your forces, such that you don't have to be pre-occupied with what recon is spotting on the reports, but actually go to them. You of course want to note where any enemy TF's are showing up too.
5. Go through all army units which aren't in bases and decide what to do with them. If you're like me this is the easiest part because there's not too many forces I'm switching their tasks on for any given turn. Make sure on this portion of the turn that you don't forget about land units in hexes which you do not control the base, and of course since you don't control the base the base scrolling won't work here from earlier, but you can just pick out the ones that are like this and adjust anything in them.

Numbers 4-5 I don't even bother with a save for, because they don't take very long, with the only exception being that I save the game when I've finished for the turn, with the comment of 'end'.

Only problem I seem to encounter is that when I'm getting off the base I'm currently checking, say to send cargo there from somewhere else, I might forget what base I was on in the first place. That can easily be solved with a better memory (yeah, the kind in your head) or just punching up a save real quick with the original base's name in the comments.

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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/6/2005 8:53:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have a couple of tricks I use. First, (playing as allies so far), I look at everything in the Pearl Harbor area (since that is where the game defaults to as a initial base on view), then swing over to US west coast and Alaska, then I check the convoys headed to SoPac and Australia, then look at Oz and New Guinea, then Northern Oz/DEI/PI/Malaya (while they still exist), then CBI theatre. Occaisionally I will miss a unit or base, but I've developed such a routine that it doesn't happen often.

I also keep a small paper notebook with important notes (sending 1 MAW to Luganville, Akagi TF sighted 120nm NE Batavia, etc), these notes are listed chronologically for easier understanding.

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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/6/2005 10:08:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Perhaps something to ponder as the Japanese player when planning your strategy.



Here's an analysis from the excellent book Total War. Vol 2 The Greater East Asia and Pacific Conflict

"In 1941 [Japan] possessed 5.3 million tons of shipping; about 35% of Japanese trade had been carried in foriegn vessels...
In 1942 The Japanese lost over a million tons of shipping... By 1943 they were forced to replace their dwindling merchant fleet with wooden ships...

Japan had risked war for the sake of obtaining raw materials under its flag; but, when this was brought about, it could not transport them. It had the intense mortification of being in possession in the South Seas of one of the richest economic units in the world, but of being unable to enjoy its usufruct. The iron, the coal, the bauxite, nickel, tin, maganese, lead, salt, graphite, potash, all the vital materials of war, were all of them technically Japanese, guarded by Japanese troops, but they lay as useless to Japan as though they were in the hands ofthe enemy, because they could not be transported.

Japan's plight is vividly shown by one figure. In 1940, before the war, it bought and imported three million tons of iron ore from the Phillipines and Malaya... By 1942, though its troops had absolute control over the iron mines, it managed to carry just over 100,00 tons of iron ore from these territories to Japan. Worse, they had neglected their shipyards, which were ill equipped and antiquated, and these were clogged, in the middle of 1943, by a fifth of the entire merchant marine undergoing repair."

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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/6/2005 10:40:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Actually when I described the method I used, I didn't mean to say "scroll to the next base', what I meant was to hit the 'next base' option. The next base may be all the way across the map, but as you are only adjusting base hexes it doesn't matter. It's too bad there's not any 'next TF' option in this game, but seeing how TF's are so territorial anyway it might not be that useful.

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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/7/2005 5:00:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm now running four PBEMs, including two where the opponents are, well, "irregular." In addition to using many of the previous techniques listed, I have a spiral notebook for each PBEM (great chance to use all those odds and ends of notebooks my kids have left over each school year - because clearly they couldn't be seen reusing a notebook!)

I write a fair number of notes to myself, reminding me of things I need to do. For example, if I'm sending a transport TF to hold in a particular location before I direct it to the final destination, it gets a note. If I'm transferring air multiple hops I write a "Zeros @ Davao" note so I don't forget they're there. I also scribble stuff down during the combat replay as things occur to me (more CAP in Rangoon. Stand down Lae bombers. Find the transport the sub torpedoed and redirect to nearest big port). I also note upcoming air/naval reinforcements so I don't forget to use them when they arrive.

I find if one of my games goes on hiatus for a week or so, this is the only way I can keep track of things. Heck, at my age, I would forget half this stuff overnight.

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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/7/2005 5:43:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		Mogami method HAVE A PLAN..
then go area to area..

then use the features the game allows.. list all ships etc... and finally if you wantto not have to do what I fdo, now that I have hundered of air groups in avout 8 major bases in three hot zones... use time related stickes..
I just always check my task forces and subs/ bombers every couple of turns if I have not already been fine tuning them..
an example would be .. I know ship x is getiing the floatation damage fixed and fires put out from the last battle.. I also know it will take several days... so do I check every day.. know.. but here is the rtub.. if I do not make a note, and I never do, I risk forgeting about it.. as a precation I check on all my ports with capital ships as part of a rutine which include status of heavy bombers , supplies and if in attack by land mode the exact situation and orders to give...

getting a rythm that suites you is very important.... no one way is RIGHT.. just found many errors I wass making corrected by checking the little things.. for instance aviation support.. hq support for fleet bases and large air bases .. etc.. I hope this makes sense

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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/7/2005 6:04:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Im just starting to get a handle on how this is played.

leaving aside Production will focus on the two main areas I think in the game based on geography. Namely Bases and Production.

KNOW what places produce ! Control of the production centers is key in this game especialy for the Japanese. For the Allies keep the Japanese at bay as long as possible to the resources they need to win.

BASES LEARN THEM ! need a good sub base ? Find out which ones qualify. Need a good bomber base ? look for the ones that already exist or cover important areas. Need a transit base for your supplies ? Check to see the ones that cant be interdicted easily and can be defended easy.

Advance in reasonable bounds. Hit the beaches with your troops but get them aircover and naval cover for the eventual counter attacks. If the enemy attacks a base the next few days are the OPTIMUM time for a counter strike. But watch for traps !

Bases like Kendari and Victoria Point or Kuantan or Baker Island are important for the Japanese as they allow the easier interdiction of alied supplies and reinforcements.

Watch your air umbrella and the enemies. Thinking your Ok without knowing where the Japanese betties are can catch a fleet unawares.

as Allies GO SLOW ! no rush to get to strike back. It was August of 1942 before the Allies counterattacked with ground troops at Guadacanal. Take your time even if the Japanese tide seems to be rolling. Your carriers are needed primary to keep japanese Predators from savaging US supply lanes too and from the US early on. the KB cant swing too far for too long to the east or they risk running down out of fuel or ammo. Hunker down for the first month or so dont worry about waiting even if you have to keep fleets in San Fransico for a month !

As the japanese PUSH FORWARD but at a reasonable pace. WATCH FOR THOSE ALLIED CD UNITS ! there is where your navy can get hurt. Some places you cant avoid them but in others find a way around even if it takes time.

Watch for the two early road blocks of Phillipines and Singapore. you will conquer them but it will take some time. POUND their air ! dont relent on that ! you need to grind down their planes and air bases so they cant develope enough for a threat.

COVER landings with air ! either ground based or carrier. The allies only have 2 CVs near Pearl and 1 CVL in Sri lanka. These cant go head to head with the KB or other japanese CVs.

for Sub warfare each has their own goals. Allied subs have to interdict Japanese landing ships and supply convoys. the japanese have to interdict Allied supply convoys. For the japanese WAIT here ! uses your sub based planes as scouts ! they can spot allied ships leaving harbor and this will get past on to subs in deeper waters ! they are the ones that will then interdict by moving into place.

For the alies its the catalinas and other patrol aircraft that have to set you up. Watch for their ship movements then interdict.

Well all I can think of right now LOL

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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/7/2005 7:11:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, I'm still on December 8, and am taking everyone's advice and going slow. I've spent the better part of 3-4 hours getting familiar with my forces. Playing Scenario 2 was a big help in coming to grips with the DEI and PI (Having played UV a bit, I didn't get to see these areas).

I guess I'm starting to develop what could be a system. I've broken things into theaters - Central Pacific, Malaya/DEI, and the USA. (For the moment, Alaska seems to be quiet, so I'm ignoring it). I started by getting Pearl in order. Setting up some ASW TF's, getting my carriers to safety (not very safe - I have them lingering south of Wake). I then moved on to the DEI/Malaya. Started getting supplies from India to that theater, figuring out where to "draw the line." I then moved to the U.S. Again, started getting supply TF's together. Figure I'm going to unload them at Pearl and simultaneously have that as a meeting point for my AKs (I wonder how much a human opponent would clobber me there in a PBEM?).

The "plan," as it were, is a problem. Not knowing how the strength of the Japanese will play out, I'm not certain as to where to focus my troops. From the Rising Sun scenario, I figure the northern islands are history - borneo, Sumatra, Celebes, and the PI. I only got into January 1942, but my guess is history is a pretty good teacher - trying to get forces into the Philippines is a lost cause and I should probably do the best I can to keep the troops there supplied to the best of my ability, and call it a loss.

How about Java? Is trying to hold Batavia southward too much? I sure don't have the PP's at this point to get any forces transferred there until February at the earliest it seems. Amboina a possibility? The mind reels . . .

Should I even attempt to hold Wake? Rangoon seems defensible, but should I pipe more forces into Singapore if I get the chance? I know it will fall eventually, but I can't bring myself to just giving it up.

I'm waiting for a smug "welcome to my world" from a would-be CinC out there

Who says a strategy guide would be of no use?

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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/7/2005 7:28:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Crimguy

How about Java? Is trying to hold Batavia southward too much? I sure don't have the PP's at this point to get any forces transferred there until February at the earliest it seems. Amboina a possibility? The mind reels . . .

I'm waiting for a smug "welcome to my world" from a would-be CinC out there



Ok, I'll bite. You'll probably get a variety of "yes" and "no" answers on questions like this, but I think some DEI areas are worth hanging onto for at least a little while. Palembang produces oil. Lots of it. Resources, too. Java is small, compact, has a great road/rail net, and two good ports, plus Tjilitjap on the Indian Ocean side. I wouldn't give it up until you're forced to. Also, Sabang, although initially ungarrisoned, has a fairly expandable airfield. It's within transport range of several strategic places, such as Singapore.

On the other hand, some places (Menado) are just too far flung to die for. If you don't mind spending the political points, you can try to evacuate some of those garrisons to bases that are easier to defend. It may just be a matter of time until the DEI falls, but I try to make as much of that time as I can.

Just my 2 cents.

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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/7/2005 8:05:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		I just play as I go, reacting and acting depending upon what the AI or player does. I also keep the whole game in my head because I'm a freak.

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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/7/2005 8:07:52 AM   
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If I haven't played in about a week, I look at the map and say one of two things: "What the Hell is this doing here." or "WTF was I thinking."

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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/7/2005 8:19:19 AM   
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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/7/2005 8:20:05 AM   
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I owned and played the VG version of Pacific War. I used to keep THAT in my head, so this isn't so bad.

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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/7/2005 8:32:32 AM   
Knaust

 

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every land unit there...organized by
type
name
HQ attachment
assault value
aviation support value
location (where the unit is)
objective (which objetive the unit is planned for)
Ops Theater (Burma,Malaya,Philippines,Borneo,NEI,Australia,Solomon,Defense Perimeter)

with adequate filters you can get eveything

which units are planned for the PortMoresby invasion
filter Objective=PortMoresby

which engineer units are available?
filter Objective=<blank> type=ENG

which units are located in Rabaul?
filter location=Rabaul

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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/7/2005 9:54:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		notebooks? spreadsheets? you mean there's more than scrolling around the map for 20 minutes looking for something you might have missed in the first 45 minutes of aimless scrolling? how's this for organization....set a timer for 30 minutes - click the end turn button after the timer goes off or you are just about blind, which ever comes first...or you can take the anal retentive chef approach and check each base alphabetically (dam, i'm getting a headache just thinking about that)




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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/7/2005 10:01:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Plus whet ever else you do get Bodi's WITPUTILIY will make your day for keeping track
and it just gets better

Cobra Aus

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RE: How do you stay organized? - 3/7/2005 7:56:02 PM   
bradfordkay

 

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In the SRA (southern resource area - the main target for the Japanese) you are not going to be able to hold on, so the idea is to make the Japanese expansion as costly as possible for the Japanese. I like to consolidate my forces into the locations that matter (Balikpapan, Palembang, Batavia, Soerabaja, Clark Field, Manila, Tarakan, Kuching, Koepang). I withdraw the smaller base foces and garrison from many of the lesser, more vulnerable bases and send them to the fortress locations. A few I will use to start to build up Port Moresby and Milne Bay. Once I have pulled the smaller base forces into Manila, I like to send the PAF Aviation unit to Cooktown, which is where I like to send the SWPAC HQ unit. My reasoning is that since MacArthur is both USAFFE and SWPAC, he's getting out of the Philippines no matter waht I do. By sending the PAW Aviation to Oz, I am at least saving a few Filipinos, who deserve some break for being our sacrificial lamb.

I have found that Bataan isn't worth trying to defend. The game system has Manila as an urban center, with a higher defense bonus than the forested Bataan Peninsula. As well, the Bataan CD unit does not fire at AI TFs passing by it on their way in to invade Manila. Clark Field is a resource producion center, so it behooves you to hold it as long as possible (creates supplies for your forces). Leave the USAFFE HQ unit in Manila so that the Manila CD unit has enough supply to fight off those invasion TFs.

In Malaya, I have found that Singapore holds longer if I try to fight the Japanese in their initial invasion. I send troops to Alor Star to hold as long as possible. I try to intercept the Khota Bharu invasion TFs, if only to reduce the number of troops they land. This has allowed Khota Bharu to hold out as long as three weeks (wow! - okay, so the cause is lost, but they're trying).

If Wake doesn't fall in the first invasion, it is always tempting to try to reinforce it. Personal decistion there. In my latest game I am trying to reinforce it. The US CV TFs hammered the invasion fleet there (the Japanese lost three CLs, six DDs, and four AK/APs in that attempt).

However, you want to be careful with your CVs near Wake. If they wander too far south fo Wake, they'll be within LBA range of the Japanese Mandated Islands. As well, if you keep them in that area too long, it might be a tempting target for the Kido Butai as it returns from the Pearl Harbor mission.

This is not necessarily a prescription for winning, but it has made for some fun gaming. Enjoy yourself!

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fair winds,
Brad

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