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RE: More Death from the Skies - 3/14/2005 2:49:57 AM   
ADavidB


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Status: offline 		July 30 saw PzB take Lahore, but I never expected to hold it. I'm now scattering my retreating troops all over the countryside. Some of them will make it to Karachi. In the meanwhile Karachi keeps on getting stronger and stronger. And the Air Force keeps on doing their job very, very well:

Day Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8

Allied aircraft
Fulmar x 13
F4F-4 Wildcat x 22
Swordfish x 19
Wirraway x 8
Kittyhawk I x 9

Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar: 1 damaged
Swordfish: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 14

You realize, of course, that this is actually a fairly motly group of carrier leftovers. This is a great way for them to gain experience.

Then there is the "Main Event":

Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 11
Wellington III x 39
Hudson I x 12
B-24D Liberator x 34

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Atsuta Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AP Nichiryo Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
AP Yasukuni Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Tatsutake Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Nikki Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Zukai Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
412 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 58
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 2

One of those ships sank this time.

If PzB doesn't do something I may very well go and invade Bombay by Sea in a month or two.

Everything else continues to be nicely boring - which means that I get to continue to distribute supplies, fuel and forces where I want without any interruptions.

BTW - just to remind folks - it's been three weeks now since I took over and Perth still doesn't have any fuel despite transport TFs that have been steaming towards it from the nearest fuel deports since the takeover. Yes, planning IS everything in this game.

Dave Baranyi

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RE: More Death from the Skies - 3/14/2005 2:27:11 PM   
EUBanana


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Status: offline 		Very curious as to who will liberate India, assuming its going to be liberated. Its a long way for the US to go (and why bother, Japan is nearer), and I think the British alone will have a very hard time reconquering all of that.

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RE: More Death from the Skies - 3/14/2005 2:46:41 PM   
String


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RE: More Death from the Skies - 3/14/2005 6:42:43 PM   
EUBanana


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ORIGINAL: String

The aussies ofcourse..


Make it the Kiwis, seeing a NZ flag flying over Rangoon, now that would be kudos high indeed.

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"It was a rainy day..." - 3/15/2005 2:16:26 AM   
ADavidB


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Status: offline 		Rain did have an effect this turn - hiding a number of ships and bases from attack. But not Ahmadabad and Bombay:

Day Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8

Allied aircraft
Fulmar x 12
F4F-4 Wildcat x 22
Swordfish x 17
Wirraway x 8
Kittyhawk I x 12

Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar: 3 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 damaged
Swordfish: 5 damaged
Wirraway: 4 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
65 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 13

Hmmm - my planes took more losses than most recent attacks. Was it weather-related (the night-fighter attack was scratched due to weather) or has PzB brought some AA-equiped troops in?

Bombay was a different and much "nicer" story:

Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 12
Wellington III x 41
Hudson I x 12
B-24D Liberator x 17

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Nichiryo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Atsuta Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Nikki Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Tatsutake Maru, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AP Yasukuni Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PC Takunan Maru #2, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
292 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 20
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 3

A couple of those APs and that PC sank afterwards. PzB still has a number of TFs in Bombay, so this coming turn I've set all of my Wellingtons to "naval attack", while leaving the B-24s on airfield attack and the other guys on Port attack. I'll take more damage this way, but I need to let PzB know that he can't leave TFs there and not be molested...

BTW - the port and airfield at Karachi are still growing nicely, as are the air field and defenses at Malir. Once the port at Karachi reaches "9" then all of my hundreds of engineers and hundreds of engineering vehicles will be solely dedicated to improving the airfield. It won't be too long before Karachi is at "Three-9s". There is still no sign of PzB advancing on Malir. He is trying to advance on Ralwapinda, but I've got the way clogged with troops who are going every which way. He also attacked another of my "stray" units and "kick-started" it past and on the way to Karachi. I "appreciate" all the help I can get. Once that unit gets to Karachi it will start to replenish and rest and soon be able to fight again very nicely along with all the other troops. I'm building quite the nice force there, and a big Brit division will be coming soon too.

Some pleasant news today also - the first TF from northern Oz reached Perth unmolested. And the first TF from Eastern Oz is about to reach northern Oz unmolested too. That is very encouraging and I am loading up a number of small transport TFs and plan to send them "north". My bases in Northern Oz need supply if they are to continue to be able to sustain bombing campaigns. (And Timor looks so "tempting", and so near...)

I've also started to get transport TFs to the West Coast. They aren't getting much rest there - I just refuel them, let them sit for one turn to "zero" their operation points, then refill them with various "goodies" to send westward. And more TFs are on the way.

August is definitely starting out the way I had hoped that it would.

Dave Baranyi

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RE: "It was a rainy day..." - 3/15/2005 4:28:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		If Timor is looking tempting it raises another interesting question, could you grab an island half way between Java and Oz with a level one airbase on it and then start flying planes into Java?

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RE: "It was a rainy day..." - 3/15/2005 4:44:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Tom Hunter

If Timor is looking tempting it raises another interesting question, could you grab an island half way between Java and Oz with a level one airbase on it and then start flying planes into Java?


Why would I want to do that? I would just end up with two Japanese level 4 bases between me and that new base. I'd much rather take those two level 4 bases in Timor and fill them full of bombers. Then I can take any other island that I like and keep air control of the region.

The issue isn't putting planes into Java - I can do that right now. The issue is knocking out PzB's bases that are between Oz and Java. I only want to worry about air attacks from one direction, not three as I currently have to deal with.

Dave

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RE: "It was a rainy day..." - 3/15/2005 5:00:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, August 1 started out fine, but as I suspected, my naval attacks on the TFs in Bombay didn't accomplish much - I only bounced a couple of bombs off of some BBs. But it does send a message to PzB. In the meanwhile my usual air attacks did normally well:

Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 12
Hudson I x 12
B-24D Liberator x 29

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
294 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 58
Port hits 1

I've put my Wellingtons back onto "port attack". At the same time, I've put all my LBA in northern Oz to "naval patrol 20%", which is what I use when I want to rest my bombers. All of the bombers in northern Oz are getting more worn down than I like, and I don't have enough supply there to keep them going at a reasonable pace. So while I'm waiting for the first supply TFs to arrive I'll leave the bombers on "patrol" for a couple of days, then switch the tac bombers to "naval attack/20% search) to let them rest but keep PzB's TFs "honest". (I don't generally use 4 engine bombers for "naval attack" except for "special occasions".)

Interestingly, PzB now has two combat TFs in the waters between Truk and Rabaul. My patrols have reported 4 DDs in one of them and 4 CAs in the other. Are they both really SC TFs, or is PzB moving some carriers into the South Pacific? I've got some nice "surprises" waiting for either situation (or both), along with lots of rested, large tac bomber groups. We'll see what happens.

Things continue to build nicely in Northern India. I've got troops moving everywhere like a disturbed ant hill in the northeast, and my bases continue to build nicely in Bombay and Malir.

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Stuck in the mud... - 3/15/2005 11:43:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		"Stuck in the mud." That's how the August 2 turn felt. Essentially, all the planning in the world can't speed things up - "stuff" takes time. For example, The airfields at Tawara maxed out at 6, but there is no point in flying in more B-17s, because I've only got 90 air support points there and I'm already in the "red". I've got air support units back in Pearl, but no ships to move them forward. The ships will eventually get to Pearl, but there is no way to rush them. (Ah, for the "good old days" of Pacwar and it's teleporting transports. ) It's the same thing at Lunga and Port Moresby. And Pearl is running low on supplies, as is Australia, but I still don't have any significant quatities of transports going further East than Pearl yet. (I've been pulling supplies and fuel out of places like Pearl in order to supply the Central and South Pacific.) Eventually I will get things back into the balance that I like, but for now it is a shame that I can't take advantage of the opportunities that are presenting themselves.

In the meanwhile, PzB keeps on playing around Java, but not really committing overwhelming force. I'm guessing that he wants to try to minimize losses, but the longer he waits, the better my bases get prepared. I could send some longer-range bombers back into Java, but I don't want to right now because they just aren't prepared enough. I'm also short of supplies in Northern Oz so I can't repair damaged planes as quickly as I would like. It's all a matter of "time" again, but it is frustrating.

In India, on the other hand, time is still with me. PzB is trying to round up my troops in northeastern India and I am trying to extricate them to the plains to the north. I'm hoping that PzB continues to commit troops there. Unfortunately, my air attacks from Karachi to Bombay were rained out on the 2nd. I wonder if PzB will try to move some fighters back in? In any event, this also means more rest for my bombers.

In Burma it looks like we are now both "stuck in the mud". I figured that the jungle and malaria would have to start to slow down PzB's troops sooner or later, and they do appear to have lost some of their otherwise "lightning" speed. I've got some Chinese troops trying to do some "funny business" - it will be interesting to see if they get away with it.

Speaking of Chinese troops, I've got some Chinese troops "happily" marching across northeast China towards Manchuria. If PzB has left any bases there ungarrisoned, I'll take them, otherwise I'll keep on the "long march to the east". Maybe I can get PzB to chase me into the Soviet Union, or pull too many troops out our Manchuria so that the Soviets become activated. I'd love to open up another front. I'd rush air support units to the Russian bases at any cost, followed by all of my long range bombers. Oh well, I can only dream while watching the rain and the clock...

Dave Baranyi

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RE: Stuck in the mud... - 3/16/2005 12:04:07 AM   
Arstavidios

 

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Status: offline 		Well at least you have a breathing space. Your units in Northern India need some time to recover and overall you're on the defensive. Your transports wil move at the same speed anyway.

PzB is probably resting and regrouping his forces for the final offensive in India. Your reinforcements arrive directly in Karachi and you don't have to care about getting supplies there. Getting you out of there and finishing off India will be a tough job.

Whatever the outcome the Java venture will have been a useful distraction coming at a critical time.

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RE: Stuck in the mud... - 3/16/2005 12:28:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		PzB's dallying instead of counter-attacking in Java will cost him the war. Holding India won't help him if he gets no more supplies and oil.

ADavid, I really like how you've turned the Allies around.

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RE: Stuck in the mud... - 3/16/2005 12:59:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am reminded of Hearts of iron 2, how hard it is to take Moscow when its stacked up with troops. Because Moscow is the Russian supply centre, so you can't isolate it and starve it out.

Seems like cracking Karachi could be similar, you will be at maximum supplies, all the time, no matter what he does. Presumably he doesnt have enough points to win either, so he has to crack it, or go elsewhere.

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RE: Stuck in the mud... - 3/16/2005 2:17:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Arstavidios

Well at least you have a breathing space. Your units in Northern India need some time to recover and overall you're on the defensive. Your transports wil move at the same speed anyway.

PzB is probably resting and regrouping his forces for the final offensive in India. Your reinforcements arrive directly in Karachi and you don't have to care about getting supplies there. Getting you out of there and finishing off India will be a tough job.

Whatever the outcome the Java venture will have been a useful distraction coming at a critical time.


The major effect of Java is that PzB is keeping a fair number of planes and ships there. This limits his ability to interfere with what I am doing in the Central and South Pacific. I don't believe that he is trying to bring back any troops from India to Java yet - he has left an awful lot of troops in India. For example, he is chasing my stragglers from Delhi with at least 25 units of various types. Thus my efforts on keeping "one step ahead". If I can keep PzB "distracted" for three more weeks I might be able to set up a defence that he won't be able to crack without taking unreasonable losses. There are no guarantees, and one bad turn of the dice can change everything, but I am hopeful.

One very good lesson this has taught me is how hard it will be to capture any of the Japanese mainland bases that produce supply.

Thanks for the comments -

Dave Baranyi

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RE: Stuck in the mud... - 3/16/2005 2:25:15 AM   
ADavidB


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ORIGINAL: sveint

PzB's dallying instead of counter-attacking in Java will cost him the war. Holding India won't help him if he gets no more supplies and oil.

ADavid, I really like how you've turned the Allies around.


I believe that he is worried about winning a Pyrric victory in Java and or India that will leave him without the strength to stop a serious assault in the Central Pacific. Thus he is trying to wear down my forces before going in for a "sure kill".

What I am trying to do during this respite is more than just build up bases - I also want to position myself to take some strategic locations once he commits to a "final battle" in either Java or India. So I am building strength, piling up supplies, moving troops and readying ships to hit him very hard as soon as I see his forces committed.

On the other hand, if he decides to leave me isolated and tries to simply starve me out, I'll gain the time that I need to start the massive bombing campaigns that I intend to use to crush his defenses in the Central and South Pacific.

So I'm cautiously optimistic, but I'm wary of what he is doing in PNG and the area around New Britain. At least now he won't be able to simply "waltz" into Oz as he could have done in early July - seeing Rockhampton empty of troops on July 8 nearly caused me to have a fit.

Thanks for the comments -

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RE: Stuck in the mud... - 3/16/2005 2:29:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: EUBanana

I am reminded of Hearts of iron 2, how hard it is to take Moscow when its stacked up with troops. Because Moscow is the Russian supply centre, so you can't isolate it and starve it out.

Seems like cracking Karachi could be similar, you will be at maximum supplies, all the time, no matter what he does. Presumably he doesnt have enough points to win either, so he has to crack it, or go elsewhere.


If I were PzB, I would ignore Karachi/Malir, pull back and start to fortify and build up the bases to the South that control the ocean. I would also capture Colombo once and for all. Then with troops and planes elsewhere, he could start an air campaign to recover control of the air over Bombay and then let the Allies sit. In reality, the Allied player won't have the land forces to start to retake India until 1944. So PzB could remove a number of experienced troops and use them elsewhere while still interdicting the seas with air power.

I guess I'll eventually see what he decides to do.

Thanks for the comments -

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RE: Stuck in the mud... - 3/16/2005 3:50:24 AM   
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If I were PzB, I would ignore Karachi/Malir, pull back and start to fortify and build up the bases to the South that control the ocean.


Remember that it is just a comment. But I think your strategic view is quite poor. PzB won´t ignore India. He is not so stupid. It´s like saying Rommel "Hey, Rommel, stay here in The Alamein, build forts because Monty won´t come until October". If you can, you have to take Cairo (Karachi). ALWAYS!!!.

As I said before, I disagree with most of the things you´re doing.

You plan to take some island in the Central Pacific when he retakes Java. Changing Java and 3 divisions to get a miserable atoll in the Central Pacific..... Not a good idea. Even if you take the Marianas, you will lose the game due to the auto-victory conditions.

But I have to warn you!. Due to your lack of strategic view, there are some japanese bases left in Java. This means that PzB won´t need his entire fleet to re-invade Java. So at the same time he sends his troops and land-based bombers to Java, he can also send his KB to avoid a major invasion in the Central Pacific. Be careful!

Well David, I´ll keep on criticizing you!There is no war with only one view...

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RE: Stuck in the mud... - 3/16/2005 4:07:37 AM   
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Remember that it is just a comment. But I think your strategic view is quite poor. PzB won´t ignore India. He is not so stupid. It´s like saying Rommel "Hey, Rommel, stay here in The Alamein, build forts because Monty won´t come until October". If you can, you have to take Cairo (Karachi). ALWAYS!!!.


I think that is a great analogy - Rommel always tried to do too much with too little. Look where it got him.

Cheers -

Dave

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RE: Stuck in the mud... - 3/16/2005 4:20:58 AM   
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RE: Stuck in the mud... - 3/16/2005 4:27:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ADavidB

The major effect of Java is that PzB is keeping a fair number of planes and ships there. This limits his ability to interfere with what I am doing in the Central and South Pacific. I don't believe that he is trying to bring back any troops from India to Java yet - he has left an awful lot of troops in India. For example, he is chasing my stragglers from Delhi with at least 25 units of various types. Thus my efforts on keeping "one step ahead". If I can keep PzB "distracted" for three more weeks I might be able to set up a defence that he won't be able to crack without taking unreasonable losses. There are no guarantees, and one bad turn of the dice can change everything, but I am hopeful.

One very good lesson this has taught me is how hard it will be to capture any of the Japanese mainland bases that produce supply.

Thanks for the comments -

Dave Baranyi


Well, he most probably won't take out troops from India, but at least he won't bring any more there. If you can reach a stalemate in Karachi then you should be ok. His resources are stretched now, so you can start applying pressure around the Japanese holdings. This will force him to respond to your threats or face the risk of having his defensive perimeter pierced.


IMHO, the best way to relieve pressure from Java and India is not to directly reinforce those places where he is already strong as this won't really change the situation and will sterilize your own offensive assets, but to start attacking in other area to prevent him from concentrating his assets and make him run all over the place. It is time to start seizing the initiative and make him react to your moves, while still being careful.

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RE: Stuck in the mud... - 3/16/2005 4:44:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Tom Hunter

ADavidB needs to play toraq when this game is over.


Hey, once v1.50 comes out I'll be happy to take on new opponents...

Dave

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RE: Stuck in the mud... - 3/16/2005 5:33:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		What's the point score, Dave? If you can avoid the 1943 auto-victory, I think you're gonna win this thing.

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RE: Stuck in the mud... - 3/16/2005 1:15:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Grotius

What's the point score, Dave? If you can avoid the 1943 auto-victory, I think you're gonna win this thing.


It's something over 3:1 in PzB's favor. I'm not spending any time worrying about immediate points - I'm busy planning for the next three game-years.

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RE: Stuck in the mud... - 3/16/2005 2:04:28 PM   
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One very good lesson this has taught me is how hard it will be to capture any of the Japanese mainland bases that produce supply.


Bad news they just about all of them produce supply. Good news is all you have to do to make them stop is do some city attacks. Plus you get strategic VPs.

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RE: More Death from the Skies - 3/16/2005 10:05:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: EUBanana

Very curious as to who will liberate India, assuming its going to be liberated. Its a long way for the US to go (and why bother, Japan is nearer), and I think the British alone will have a very hard time reconquering all of that.


What a silly question. Obviously, the Japanese are liberating the suppressed Indians from their colonial masters. Thanks to PzB's selfless efforts, the Indian people will be free to join the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere.

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Strange stuff... - 3/17/2005 3:11:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've been trying to be careful about how I handle the mechanics of the game. Right from the beginning I noticed commander changes and strange unit behavior, so I started a while back to delete the old saves before extracting the saves that PzB was sending to me. That seemed to make things better behaved, but this turn I noticed that the "max range" on my long range bombers was set back. I don't remember doing any global "sets" on the other bombers in those bases, so this is pretty strange. In any event, I'll keep an eye on this.

In the meanwhile again on August 3 PzB was enjoying the benefits of rainy weather in Bombay and in Java, as my planes stayed grounded for the most part. Oh well, it also means that my aircrews get more rested and more planes get repaired. The airfields at Karachi also went up to a level 5 this turn, so that should mean that more planes launch.

Equally frustrating has been the tendency of my LCUs to reset their movement to zero on an unpredictable basis. I can only assume that this is happening to both sides... Has Mike Woods ever commented upon this, as in: does he intend to do anything about it?

Game mechanics aside, PzB is now sailing forces into the Marshalls, as well as in the New Britain area. And he is building up strength in Java. So it appears that he intends to attack in the Pacific simultaneously with his attempt to recapture Java.

BTW - as far as those kind folks who keep on insisting that I somehow "panic rush" forces in to help bolster the defences in Java, well, I got my first fuel TF into Perth today...think about it.... I've also got other fuel TFs "rushing" at an equal speed to the northern Oz bases. When they get there in a week or so, I will finally have fuel for some operations. Unfortunately, the first supply TFs are still far off, as are any ADs to allow me to rearm DDs in the region. So PzB will continue to be able to take advantage of the lull provided by the lack of fuel and supply. Such is life in the "big pipeline"...

Dave Baranyi

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Bombs away... - 3/17/2005 5:22:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, my fly boys in Karachi decided to take off today and did a nice job after their rest:

Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 9
Wellington III x 45
B-24D Liberator x 41

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Nichiryo Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
600 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 43
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1

That pushed the airfield damage back up to "100", so next turn I'll have the Wellingtons go after the port again, but I'm having the Blenheims and Liberators visit Delhi, which now has an aircraft symbol on it.

The "little boys" in Malir also kept up their part of the bargain:

Day Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8

Allied aircraft
Fulmar x 12
F4F-4 Wildcat x 11
Swordfish x 16
Wirraway x 2
Kittyhawk I x 12

Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar: 2 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 4 damaged
Swordfish: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 7

So far PzB hasn't tried to put any aircraft into Ahmadabad.

Unfortunately, my "strays" in India are getting "tripped up" by the @#$%^ movement rules and PzB's ability to cross rivers that I can't. I guess if my troops were rested they would move better too. But this is buying me time. Things continue to improve in Karachi and Malir and I'll even get some good troops in another week or so.

In the meanwhile, I tried to attack a couple of bases in Eastern China, but my Chinese Strays don't have any supplies and can't attack with any strength. PzB will need to decide if he wants to worry about them or ignore them. He is spending a lot of effort bombing my strays in Central China.

I'm hoping that the weather is with me in Java because I've had a few "friends" drop in to say hello to a supply force that PzB has sent in under the cover of rain. If it works it will be a nice bonus.

The most interesting thing from my p.o.v. is that I've spotted what my naval search forces call three CAs at Jaluit. Now, is this just a fast transport that is dropping off supplies, or is PzB trying to set up for a fast bombardment of Tawara like he did a couple of times to Wobbly? I've got PT boat TFs in both Makin and Tawara, as well as a number of subs hanging around inbetween the Gilberts and the Marshalls. The PT boats are only a nuisence if PzB is really sending in the "big boys", but I've also got a strong surface force nicely rested at Makin, along with a carrier force, both of which I've sent to Tarawa just "in case". And if those three "CAs" turn out to be a carrier force, I not only have a lot of air power on Tawara, but Makin has also just reached a level 3 air base and I'm moving B-25s in to be able to either "say hello" to any surface forces in the Gilberts, or to be able to jump in to Tarawa to strike at any stragglers out of PzB's forces. It will almost be a "disappointment" if it turns out that PzB isn't planning anything.

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RE: Bombs away... - 3/17/2005 5:27:57 AM   
ADavidB


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Status: offline 		BTW - on August 4, one of three long range bomber squadrons in a base was back to short range again. I had that squadron on "naval search" while the other two were on "airfield attack". Maybe I just forgot to change the "search" planes the previous turn, but I don't think that I'm "losing it" that badly. Oh well, just another thing to double check when I do a turn...

Dave

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RE: Bombs away... - 3/17/2005 4:34:16 PM   
Andy Mac

 

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Status: offline 		Just thinking about India again.

A few points that I am sure you are already doing / taking on board/ have decided to ignore.

1. Do you have any AK's especially any US AK's in Karachi or that can get there PT boats/ Barges will seriously blunt his bombardment runs (given the British could have diverted from the Med if India is this threatened I have no problem using US PT Boats from an AK)

2. I hope most of your sub force is heading for Karachi to start sub mining operations in and around Karachi you want to slow down bombardment runs to leave him in range of your bombers.

3. Dont waste Beuforts at greater than range 4, dont you get Vengeance DBs soon also Range 4 shipkillers and dont B17's drop 1000 lbers at low range.

4. Dont be afraid to use barges to blockade the port and divert his bombardment runs. (The RN and Army had an extensive Brown Water navy operating on the rivers so I again have no problem sacrificing them to slow the IJN bombardment runs.)

5. 25th Indian isnt far away cling on until it arrives and thats 300 assault pointds to help with the defence.

6. Karachi is a City Hex try and avoid fighting there but if you have to its gonna be a long fight even if the forts fall.

7. Any units trapped in the south try to get em to coastal hexes and use subs to pick em up (especially base and engineering units that can rebuild in Karachi and help rebuild forts)

IMO this aint over yet....

Good Luck !!

Andy

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RE: Bombs away... - 3/17/2005 5:06:52 PM   
toraq


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Status: offline 		Good points Andy Mac...I wonder where the he11 are those USN subs...they could play a major role if the japs decide to bomb that place with surface forces.


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RE: More Death from the Skies - 3/17/2005 6:34:52 PM   
Speedysteve

 

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Status: offline 		David -

What reinforcements do you get in Karachi over the next couple of months (Air and Land i'm thinking of mainly)?

Regards,

Steven

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