Don Bowen
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Joined: 7/13/2000 From: Georgetown, Texas, USA Status: offline
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ORIGINAL: TIMJOT Hello Don A few things I noticed. 1) 70th FS starts the game with P-39s. I think this should be changed to P-36s and upgrade to P-39s, because the squadron was flying P-36s up to embarking on Dec 5, 1941. As you know it was to upgrade to P-40E upon reaching the PI. According to the 70th unit history none of the pilots had ever seen a P-39 until they uncrated them on the beach in Fiji in February 42. This one has been argued back and forth many times. Background: The 35th Fighter Group was in the process of being transferred to the Philippines. Two squadrons had already arrived (and were temporarily attached to the 24th Group). Both of these squadrons arrived WITHOUT AIRCRAFT and were both temporarily assigned available aircraft, mostly P-35, until their new P-40s arrived. The 21st Squadron (35th Group) in the Philippines had already been re-equipped with P-40E. The 34th Squadron, 35th Group, had recently arrived and been handed down the tired old P-35s. 18 P-40E for the 34th Squadron were aboard the Pensacola Convoy and, of course, never arrived. The 70th Squadron had been equipped with P-36 prior to embarkation - it was at sea 12/7/41 enroute the Philippines. The convoy turned around after Pearl Harbor and the squadron re-equipped with P-39 on returning to San Francisco. The question is whether or not the P-36 were still with the 70th while it was at sea. I believe they were not: - The other two squadrons of the 35th were sent to the Philippines without aircraft and equipped there.
- The three squadrons of the 27th Light Bomb Group were sent without aircraft and the aircraft sent later (also in the Pensacola Convoy).
- Shipping was very scarce and space for 18 obsolete aircraft would be a waste.
- A shipment of 55 P-40E left San Francisco 12/15/41 aboard the President Polk (bound for Australia). Some of these aircraft may have been those intended to completely re-equip the 35th Group and perhaps to upgrade the 24th Group as well.
I believe the 70th had shed it's P-36 and it's intended P-40s were to be shipped separately. Since it was fully equipped with P-39 within a week I have decided it to appropriate to so equip it on the first day of the war. quote:
2) The 68th FS enters the game equiped with P-39s. Historically it deployed to the PTO with P-40E. The 68th was the Squadron that went to Tongatabu in early 1942. It's squadron history lists P-36, P-40 and P-43 in 1941 and P-38, P-39, P-40 and P-400 in 1942. Apparently it spent a few months in Australia working up and delivering P-39 and P-40 before going to Tongatabu in May. I have seen several reports of a mixed P-39/P-40 complement prior to Tongatabu but the squadron apparently converted to P-40E on or immediately after arrival. I do not now recall why I decided on P-39 but inertia is on the side of leaving it that way. quote:
3) The 11th BS equiped with A-24s . This unit was part of the 7th BG (Hvy). Along with its sister units the 9th & and 22nd BS it was to be equiped with B-17Es and sent to the PI. However at the outbreak of war there were not enough available and it was instead equiped with LB-30s and deployed along with the other two Squadrons of the group(B-17Es) to the NEIs via the South America/Africa/India ferry route. Curiously in 43 it changed over to B-25s and was re-designated a Medium BS but remained under the 7th Heavy BG organisational umbrella. Perhaps this is why you have them starting out with A-24s. IMHO the 11th LB-30s upgadeing to B-25s is the historical way to go and if they are going to retain SE Asia HQ then they should enter the game peicemeal at Karachi starting in early January. This is a mistake - should be B-17E.
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