Charles2222
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ORIGINAL: Mike Scholl quote:
ORIGINAL: Charles_22 All I can tell you is that I have seen the formulas GG used to use for A2A combat and the morale was every bit as important as the experience and other factors. Whether he still uses pretty much the same formula I can only guess. Besides, since there is not an SP ranking for the crews, or at least none that I have seen, and how morale is a key (no matter how insignificant it may cureently be) to the unseen fomula, wouldn't you say that it just might fit into the morale category? If there aren't any crew variables other than exp/mor then obviously the other intangibles fit in one or the other category or are omitted altogether. And as I said earlier, the system is flawed, and getting worse. You defend the results by saying that this is the way GG designed the system. I say that totally ahistoric results indicate the system doesn't work. If it did, the results would be more historic. If an automobile bursts into flames and blows up whenever it is hit from behind..., you don't say that it's a great car because that was the way it was designed! You pay off a pile of nasty lawsuits, and re-design the car so that it doesn't explode when hit from behind. "The system was designed to produce lousy results" is NOT a defense of the system---it's a damning condemnation. Mike I don't think this model is working off the BTR model, or the USAAF model for that matter, but that's where the ground was being laid. It's not a carbon-copy is what I'm trying to say (not that you said that). In any event my main purpose was to make it clear to you that there is no such thing as self-preservation in the ranking of the crews. You can imagine it as fatigue or morale, in there somewhere perhaps, but there had never been any s-p rankings in any of GG's games that I've seen. I'm not exactly sure there should be either, because if s-p makes so much of a difference as you said, what makes you think B17 crews have more s-p than Zero or Betty pilots? Part of s-p, in fact, I would say the majority of it, probably has a lot more with knowing how and when to retreat (such as going flat to the ground instead of continually firing away) than being a legendary rambo, which certainly B17 pilots weren't known to have nothing but rambo crews.
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