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What happened to this place? - 6/10/2005 9:45:25 AM

Onime No Kyo

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I know I've been away for a while but I wasnt expecting this place to go so completely dead. I mean, there's nothing here anymore aside from inconcequential complaints about nothing at all. C'mon, guys.

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/10/2005 10:13:38 AM

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what are you doing ? you are complaining

C'mon, guy.

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/10/2005 11:08:30 AM

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I have to admit, things HAVE cooled down a bit overhere, It's still GREAT fun, but I have the feeling that it used to be MORE fun......

Or maybe I am just getting used to the clowns that live in this forum.

Lets start a poll !

question:

HAS OR HAS NOT this forum changed to a LESS FUN plase in the last 4 months ???????

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/10/2005 11:31:53 AM

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HAS OR HAS NOT this forum changed to a LESS FUN plase in the last 4 months ???????

No idea, too busy with WitP itself to notice or care.

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/10/2005 11:46:47 AM

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what Bodhi said. Too busy playing

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/10/2005 12:07:20 PM

harrer

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quote:

ORIGINAL: wild_Willie2

I have to admit, things HAVE cooled down a bit overhere, It's still GREAT fun, but I have the feeling that it used to be MORE fun......

Or maybe I am just getting used to the clowns that live in this forum.

Lets start a poll !

question:

HAS OR HAS NOT this forum changed to a LESS FUN plase in the last 4 months ???????

IT has I think .. just because the same questions come back again and again .. but I still have questions waiting for an answer because nobody could give it to me .. so if you have nothing to do, give me some answers

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/10/2005 12:19:59 PM

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Ya all... come back to the UV forum.

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/10/2005 3:06:15 PM

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quote:

I know I've been away for a while but I wasnt expecting this place to go so completely dead. I mean, there's nothing here anymore aside from inconcequential complaints about nothing at all. C'mon, guys.

It's summer. I guess many people don't want to be locked up in the house staring at a monitor.
There is plenty of time to do that when old-man winter is in town

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/10/2005 3:27:13 PM

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It's summer. I guess many people don't want to be locked up in the house staring at a monitor.
There is plenty of time to do that when old-man winter is in town .

Speak for yourself................

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/10/2005 3:59:11 PM

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Perhaps most of the issues have been resolved?

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/10/2005 4:06:54 PM

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Perhaps most of the issues have been resolved?

No.

Pretty much most of the people who were bringing up problems stopped posting (or have drastically limited their posting.)

There is a distinct tendency to hammer anyone who does mention the problems. Plus, i think the people saw that they were not going to get resolution on any problems they mentioned - the game is supposedly "finished" except for bug fixes.

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/10/2005 4:22:45 PM

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The place overall is still the same. I just drive on with the game and stay in here with my "widdle buddies"

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/10/2005 4:36:23 PM

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There is a distinct tendency to hammer anyone who does mention the problems.

Problems???

Did you say problems???

How dare you say problems!!!

<sarcasm off>

There are some people who post for the sake of starting arguements about intangibles without any real facts. Looks like most folks are tired of these threads and don't bother with them so they fall off page 1 fast.

Problems on the other hand get fixed ... information is provided that allows duplication, code gets fixed, new version gets posted, etc.

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/10/2005 4:38:02 PM

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There is a distinct tendency to hammer anyone who does mention the problems. Plus, i think the people saw that they were not going to get resolution on any problems they mentioned - the game is supposedly "finished" except for bug fixes.

I'm sorry you feel that way - I've seen a pretty fair share of skirmishing from all sides, though I may not read every thread.

Please also note that "finished except for bug fixes" means problems are still being addressed, though not new feature requests. Have you taken a look at the v1.52 limited beta?

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/10/2005 4:59:18 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

quote:

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso
There is a distinct tendency to hammer anyone who does mention the problems. Plus, i think the people saw that they were not going to get resolution on any problems they mentioned - the game is supposedly "finished" except for bug fixes.

I'm sorry you feel that way - I've seen a pretty fair share of skirmishing from all sides, though I may not read every thread.

Please also note that "finished except for bug fixes" means problems are still being addressed, though not new feature requests. Have you taken a look at the v1.52 limited beta?

Regards,

- Erik

Erik -

i was NOT referring to official 2x3/matrix policy when i say (and still say) people get hammered for expressing dissatisfaction. However, i DO think it is the de facto policy of the forum - whether it is from the majority of the members, or a vocal minority is a matter for discussion, perhaps.

I put "finished" in quotes to refer to the announced policy that there would be no future expansions of features, but 2x3/matrix will address bugs. i think 2x3/matrix is very active in addressing these problems.

i have not seen the 1.52 patch info - i was under the impression that 1.51 was in "beta", i.e., not ready for general release. i will check this out, however.

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/11/2005 1:41:50 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

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ORIGINAL: Tallyman662

Perhaps most of the issues have been resolved?

No.

Pretty much most of the people who were bringing up problems stopped posting (or have drastically limited their posting.)

There is a distinct tendency to hammer anyone who does mention the problems. Plus, i think the people saw that they were not going to get resolution on any problems they mentioned - the game is supposedly "finished" except for bug fixes.

Man! You said a mouthful in that post!

You're right on target rtrapasso.

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/11/2005 3:02:08 AM

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There are two primary types of threads in any game forum.

Functional threads: These answer questions and provide advice about the game. They are quite useful and important but not overly interesting. People read these threads but no one checks in at 15 minute intervals to keep up on these.

Debate threads: To what extent does the game accurately reflect history and in what ways can or should the game be changed in order to be more historical/accurate/fun/etc. These are the threads that generate heat and cause people to stay on the forums for prolonged period of time.

As long as you have a couple good debate threads going your functional threads will be very useful. Ask a simple question and you are likely to get an answer in minutes from one of the many people hanging around for the next reply to a debate thread. Once the debate threads start to die out the functional threads start to be less responsive.

Once the game approches its final state the impetus for debate drops, then viewership drops, and then finally it becomes a place to ask an occasional question to be answered by the mod (the only knowlegeble person left monitoring the forum).

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/11/2005 3:16:18 AM

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The downfall started when this forum got kicked to the bottom of the listings.

I'm one of the ones that feels that "this is it". So I deal with it.
I'll be very happy when the game mechanic bugs get squashed.
That's all I want from Matrix.
Just fix what I bought. So it performs as expected.

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/11/2005 4:31:48 AM

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Hey....the games been out for almost a year. Forum can't be hopping forever can it?

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/11/2005 4:36:36 AM

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However,

we haven't dealt with the most serious problem.
Once the bugs havce been squashed, and Matrix stops putting out patches and such, and people stop checking the forum every 15 minuts.
How are we going to find new e-mail opponents every couple of years or so?
I DEMAND that this forum be kept at the top of the list!

(Actually it wasn't Guiness. Two Lagavulins after a steak dinner will do it)
My PBEM are missing a golden oportunity here

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/11/2005 4:37:35 AM

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I actually mean my opponets in PBEm.

WHATERVER.

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/11/2005 5:11:03 AM

Halsey

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It's still the most active forum on this site!
Even after a year!

PBEM opponents? Go to Battlefront. com.
That's where I find fresh meat for older games.

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/11/2005 5:51:23 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

quote:

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

quote:

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso
There is a distinct tendency to hammer anyone who does mention the problems. Plus, i think the people saw that they were not going to get resolution on any problems they mentioned - the game is supposedly "finished" except for bug fixes.

I'm sorry you feel that way - I've seen a pretty fair share of skirmishing from all sides, though I may not read every thread.

Please also note that "finished except for bug fixes" means problems are still being addressed, though not new feature requests. Have you taken a look at the v1.52 limited beta?

Regards,

- Erik

Erik -

i was NOT referring to official 2x3/matrix policy when i say (and still say) people get hammered for expressing dissatisfaction. However, i DO think it is the de facto policy of the forum - whether it is from the majority of the members, or a vocal minority is a matter for discussion, perhaps.

I put "finished" in quotes to refer to the announced policy that there would be no future expansions of features, but 2x3/matrix will address bugs. i think 2x3/matrix is very active in addressing these problems.

i have not seen the 1.52 patch info - i was under the impression that 1.51 was in "beta", i.e., not ready for general release. i will check this out, however.

I notice you got "hammered" ( a little anyway ) for even daring to say people get "hammered" !!!

There are a few issues which have been beaten to death over and over ... interestingly one of them was ASW ... and while a few of us complained and complained and got told we were banna-men and that ASW was working perfectly ... well hey 1.5 actually went a long way towards fixing ASW !!! ... so I'll take the whippin' ... if you guys'll keep on fixin' !!! ( hey I was born in GA ) ...

All in all I'd say people are more busy playing and less busy grumbling ... at least the ones I know ... so that is probably a good thing.

( but B17s take too many losses to Japanese fighters !!!

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/11/2005 6:06:55 AM

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I haven't been here much lately. I'm scared to play again. My life went to s*** for a while. No sleep, dreamt in hexes, etc.

Also have been addicted to SH3, despite the bugs galore. Thinking of delving into an Allied PBEM soon though.

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/11/2005 8:19:10 AM

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I lurk here every day, but haven't had as much time to post because I'm in a PBEM with Cap and Gown. I figure I should be making my moves, not posting. :P

Anyway, I think this place is doing just fine. Still quite busy -- busier than most of the boards here.

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/11/2005 10:10:20 AM

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i just stopped checking because everything turns into the same old agruements everytime. it is kinda funny, one night i was bored, (i work nights), so i looked back to see how many times the agruement of which is a better air-to-air gun, the .50 or the 20mm (ok, i was really bored) (i'm not going to tell you how many times. in the voice of Nelson from "The Simpsons"...heeaa hheeaaa)

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/11/2005 4:15:42 PM

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Look at the explosion of the number oF AARs - we are all too busy playing this "broke" game to winge.

Funny that

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/11/2005 6:00:36 PM

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ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

I know I've been away for a while but I wasnt expecting this place to go so completely dead. I mean, there's nothing here anymore aside from inconcequential complaints about nothing at all. C'mon, guys.

Well it's been a year already! I guess I respectfully disagree with you, I think the participation is quite good considering when the game came out and how this is truly a very limited market game.

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/11/2005 7:37:37 PM

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I notice you got "hammered" ( a little anyway ) for even daring to say people get "hammered" !!!

Heh - how 'bout that!

Interesting comment about the debate threads. Several interesting debates that have been about WW2 but not about WITP directly have been pretty quickly excised and stuck on the general forum. If the comment was correct (and i think it is at least in part), that might have a general calming effect on the forum, and also make it less interesting.

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RE: What happened to this place? - 6/12/2005 4:04:51 AM

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ORIGINAL: 1275psi

Look at the explosion of the number oF AARs - we are all too busy playing this "broke" game to whine.

Funny that

Problem is that it's the act of playing the game that keeps bringing up "what the he11" occurances that lead to new threads. The current "B-17" thread was started by a Japanese Player who planned an ambush of his opponants heavy bombers; only to find that even he was amazed and mystified by the results.

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