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NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 2:09:04 PM   
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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 2:10:56 PM   
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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 2:11:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		He was acting suspiciously on a subway train.
He was chased down by a policeman who shot him when he wouldn't surrender.

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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 2:12:20 PM   
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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 2:46:02 PM   
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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 3:02:57 PM   
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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 3:04:13 PM   
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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 3:07:33 PM   
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The suspect climbed over a barrier at the station.
And kept running when challenged by the armed policeman.
Maybe he thought the pommy cops didn't have guns too?

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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 3:09:19 PM   
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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 3:09:57 PM   
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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 3:10:20 PM   
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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 3:10:40 PM   
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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 3:11:40 PM   
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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 3:11:49 PM   
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probably he was traveling without a ticket...


well he has got a ONEWAY trip now.....

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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 3:14:42 PM   
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Put it in General Discussion, that's where it'll be moved to anyway.



I should think that we are a big enough group to warrant our own "General Discussion" section within WiTP. I HATE going out and then back into this area.


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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 3:14:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		That kinda reminds me of "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade", where Indy throws the Nazi officer out of the airship, and then turns to the rest of the passengers and says "no ticket!"

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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 3:17:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		He must have had suicide going threw his mind.

Yestersday's failed bombings will provide the police with heaps of evidence. And maybe they will have enough leads to catch the bigger fish. Last weeks that guy was detained in Egypt. He said, "I was going to go back."

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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 3:18:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Making more sense now. The man apparently had a bomb belt on with wires sticking out of his jacket. No chance to take prisoners or chances there i'd say

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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 3:19:04 PM   
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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 3:21:17 PM   
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4706787.stm

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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 3:21:21 PM   
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And the passengers told the station officers.

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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 3:28:50 PM   
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When I logged on tonight, I saw that some of the thread from here were moved to the General Discussion Site. So I went there to see if anything extra was added that was worth reading. While there I also read: If World War II had been an on-line Real Time Strategy game. This is SO funny. I you haven't read i, go up there now and have a good laugh.

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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 3:44:07 PM   
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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 4:00:49 PM   
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Nice to see that some Bobbys do have guns and are willing to use them. I remember the old Robin Williams routine where he was describing how hard it must be to be a Bobby "Stop! ......or I will say stop again!"

As a cop in the US I can't imagine doing my job unarmed. Only had to use my weapon once in 16 years but would have had a rough time not getting my butt kicked without it there as a deterent.

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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 4:02:49 PM   
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As a cop in the US I can't imagine doing my job unarmed. Only had to use my weapon once in 16 years but would have had a rough time not getting my butt kicked without it there as a deterent.



So how is Tony Soprano going??????


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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 8:44:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Probably an MP-5, so the officer had plenty to spare in case those five rounds did not properly relax the suspect.

EDIT: Correction...After reading the article that Speedy found, they say if was a semi-auto pistol. Either way the officer/officers would of had plenty of spare magazines and would not be worrying about running out of bullets. I'm sure they fired till the suspect stopped resisting. Would think there was an "urgency" involved considering what has happened over the last two weeks and this guy had wires hanging out of his clothes.

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Aaaarrrgggghhhh. You can't shoot me! You're an English policeperson.
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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 8:48:12 PM   
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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/22/2005 9:31:17 PM   
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"One of them was carrying a black handgun - it looked like an automatic - they pushed him to the floor, bundled on top of him and unloaded five shots into him," he said.



Oddly enough what this eye witness says doesn't jive with the other reports...

You could get the impression that they purposely killed him from just this line.

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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/23/2005 2:48:04 AM   
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A couple of things.

Firstly, it appears the person in question was most likely being watched, as he was suspected of involvement in the terror ring that made the attacks on thursday. He was pursued by three Officers apparently, and it does appear he was caught and shot five times, as he was suspected of carrying explosives. Some eye witnesses have remarked on the size of his coat, others have reported wires in his belt.

We do have armed police in this country. The unit is called SO19, although diplomatic and royal protection officers will also carry weapons.

However, this sort of shooting marks a radical departure for the British Police force. There have been suggestions these Officers were something more than ordinary Policemen. There have been new guidelines recently issued which change the rules of engagement where Officers think a suspect has explosives on him, and intends to blow himself and others up. They seem to have been following these and shooting to kill, but there seems to have been absolutely no hesitation, which may indeed indicate these men were more than just plain clothes detectives.

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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!! - 7/23/2005 2:51:56 AM   
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"One of them was carrying a black handgun - it looked like an automatic - they pushed him to the floor, bundled on top of him and unloaded five shots into him," he said.



Oddly enough what this eye witness says doesn't jive with the other reports...

You could get the impression that they purposely killed him from just this line.


I think this is the current understanding of what happened (the full Police version is not yet out, I think) but it does seem he was shot in this manner, because he was believed to be carrying explosives and be intent on setting them off. The Officers cornered him on the train and shot him to prevent any explosion.

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