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2000 AP bomb, 4000 GP bomb - 7/20/2005 7:03:56 PM   
castor troy


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Status: offline 		Looking through the database editor I found in slot 210: 2000 lb AP bomb and in slot 206: 4000 lb GP bomb!!!

Are these monsters used? Have I overlooked a patch? I´m using the past beta 1.6 patch. 1.64?? or whatever.

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RE: 2000 AP bomb, 4000 GP bomb - 7/20/2005 7:06:05 PM   
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Looking through the database editor I found in slot 210: 2000 lb AP bomb and in slot 206: 4000 lb GB bomb!!!

Are these monsters used? Have I overlooked a patch? I´m using the past beta 1.6 patch. 1.64?? or whatever.


2000 pound AP bomb is currently is use by error - claimed to be fixed in current Beta patch.

Haven't seen/heard any sign of the 2 ton monster (yet).

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RE: 2000 AP bomb, 4000 GP bomb - 7/20/2005 7:09:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't remember if Skyraiders were operational in '46, but didn't they carry a 4k GP?

Oops, just looked at site that said they were supposed to carry 2 x 2k, not a single 4k. Supposedly, they went operational 12/46.

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RE: 2000 AP bomb, 4000 GP bomb - 7/20/2005 7:36:41 PM   
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Carried by Lancasters and the like to drop on Germany. They are not in the game sadly despite serving in theatre late on.

The Mosquito bomber (not fighter bomber) carries one I think as it's sole weapon. Thats what it did in the European theatre and I believe it's in the database with that load out.

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RE: 2000 AP bomb, 4000 GP bomb - 7/20/2005 7:38:21 PM   
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RE: 2000 AP bomb, 4000 GP bomb - 7/20/2005 7:39:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dont have my Cambell's naval weapons to reference for the specific plane but i do recall the entry for the 4k GP stated that only a postwar carrier bomber type could lug this nugget. Skyraider sounds about right.


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RE: 2000 AP bomb, 4000 GP bomb - 7/20/2005 9:02:39 PM   
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Dont have my Cambell's naval weapons to reference for the specific plane but i do recall the entry for the 4k GP stated that only a postwar carrier bomber type could lug this nugget. Skyraider sounds about right.




So like it´s now I don´t need to be afraid of this bomb, do I? But why it´s in the database then?

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RE: 2000 AP bomb, 4000 GP bomb - 7/20/2005 9:18:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hoplosternum

The Mosquito bomber (not fighter bomber) carries one I think as it's sole weapon. Thats what it did in the European theatre and I believe it's in the database with that load out.


Correct. The Mosquito B.XXVI carries a single 4000lb GP bomb.

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RE: 2000 AP bomb, 4000 GP bomb - 7/20/2005 9:20:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think a Skyraider could carry a 4000 lb bomb. One 2000 lb on each of two stub plyons and 12 500 lb on the wing plyons. I am not sure what they could put on the centerline, never saw them without a drop tank. Worked on them at NKP Thailand.

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RE: 2000 AP bomb, 4000 GP bomb - 7/20/2005 9:21:12 PM   
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So like it´s now I don´t need to be afraid of this bomb, do I? But why it´s in the database then?

quote:

The Mosquito B.XXVI carries a single 4000lb GP bomb.


Looks like you DO need to be worried - at least when the Mosquito B.XXVI shows up...

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RE: 2000 AP bomb, 4000 GP bomb - 7/20/2005 9:26:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		It was probably included for moders who might want to use it for a post 45 scenerio

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RE: 2000 AP bomb, 4000 GP bomb - 7/21/2005 4:49:12 PM   
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RE: 2000 AP bomb, 4000 GP bomb - 7/21/2005 10:28:25 PM   
Odin


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A Cookie was found in my city some days ago, it should be removed saturday.

That was the second cookie they found here, mostly they find 500lb bombs

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RE: 2000 AP bomb, 4000 GP bomb - 7/21/2005 11:10:44 PM   
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RE: 2000 AP bomb, 4000 GP bomb - 7/22/2005 1:06:33 AM   
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You want bigger bombs? You got bigger bombs! How's a 43,600 pounder grab ya?







Gods! what could carry that? I thought the Tallboy carried by 617 sqdn's Lancasters was as big as they got?

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RE: 2000 AP bomb, 4000 GP bomb - 7/22/2005 1:32:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		That little beauty is the US T-12 deep penetration (or "earthquake") bomb, designed in 1944 and meant to be carried by the B-36 Peacemaker bombers (just two per heavily modified aircraft). A monster bomb carried by a monster aircraft.







One of the bombs is on display outside the entrance to the US Army Ordnance museum at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds.

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RE: 2000 AP bomb, 4000 GP bomb - 7/22/2005 1:36:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wow thats a big bomb! But only the B-36 could carry it.

T12
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
The T-12 demolition bomb was designed to create an "earthquake effect." It achieved this by having an extremely thick nose section, which was supposed to penetrate deeply into the earth (earth penetrating weapons are often referred to as EPW). The T-12 carried a charge of 44,000 lb (20,000 kg), which was twice the size of the next-smaller bomb, the M-110.

Because of its enormous explosive charge, and the intention to create seismic shock, the bomb was referred to as the Earthquake Bomb. It, like many weapons of its ilk, were really more terror weapons than practical. In the case of the T-12, for example, only one plane, the B-36 Peacemaker could actually carry the weapon.

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RE: 2000 AP bomb, 4000 GP bomb - 7/22/2005 1:42:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		And on a side note - the B-52 is BIG, right? Well, the B-36 had a wingspan of 230 feet, 50% LONGER than the B-52! It had TEN engines!

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RE: 2000 AP bomb, 4000 GP bomb - 7/22/2005 2:28:31 AM   
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And on a side note - the B-52 is BIG, right? Well, the B-36 had a wingspan of 230 feet, 50% LONGER than the B-52! It had TEN engines!



We obviously need these for 1946 and later scenarios!!

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RE: 2000 AP bomb, 4000 GP bomb - 7/22/2005 9:35:49 AM   
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RE: 2000 AP bomb, 4000 GP bomb - 7/22/2005 12:23:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's maximum take-off weight was 410,000 pounds (about 205 TONS), and it could carry 86,000 pounds of bombs to 1,800 mile range.






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RE: 2000 AP bomb, 4000 GP bomb - 7/22/2005 3:48:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hard to tell from this (great) picture - but it almost looks like they have a disco set up in the aft section of the B-36!

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RE: 2000 AP bomb, 4000 GP bomb - 7/22/2005 3:49:21 PM   
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RE: 2000 AP bomb, 4000 GP bomb - 7/23/2005 3:52:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		The AF museum at Wright/Patterson in Dayton Ohio has a B-36J on display in a hanger with a whole lot of other aircraft. Must have been 15 or 20 minutes before I realized that I was walking around under a plane which was the B-36J. I was busy looking at the other planes they had parked under it. Seems like its 15 to 18 feet from the ground to the bottom of the fuselage. It's really something to see a plane that big.

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RE: 2000 AP bomb, 4000 GP bomb - 7/23/2005 4:05:46 AM   
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