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IJN Experts only... - 9/12/2005 8:19:16 PM

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As I mentioned above this questions is only for high level IJN experts only!

Japan gets AV with A/C capacity of 1(Yes, one) and no planes on it. What is this thing?
Please don't say it is speacial ocean taxi for the Mr. Tojo.

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 9/12/2005 8:21:49 PM

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Those are seaplane tenders meant to support flying boat squadrons. The USN Tangier class has a capacity of 0.

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 9/12/2005 8:23:15 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: gunner333

As I mentioned above this questions is only for high level IJN experts only!
Japan gets AV with A/C capacity of 1(Yes, one) and no planes on it. What is this thing?
Please don't say it is speacial ocean taxi for the Mr. Tojo.

Thanks

I have often wondered that myself.. But basically you can load a single plane unit onto the ship and use it as a small ASW / recon platform (usually salvage small air groups from sinking capital ships).. Or moreso use the AV at a forward base as they will provide 10 AV support for the base they are docked at. Use this to equip the base for a chutai of recon planes (groups of 9) so you don't need a base force.

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 9/12/2005 8:24:29 PM

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Those ships provide AV support for floatplanes. You can use those ships to support floatplanes on forward bases without base forces. Good to support e.g. patrol planes on forward bases.

But I don't consider myself an expert, ...

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 9/12/2005 8:24:31 PM

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To be less philosophical and more practical......

Put it in a task force and dock it at a level 0 airfield base. You will be able to base PC and FP there without the need for base forces. You can also disband it into such a location if the port size is 3 or better.

I find that ship useful in the Gilberts.

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 9/12/2005 8:32:35 PM

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Thanks alot gentelmen!
As I see the board is overflowed by experts.

Thanks alot, I didnt know that AV itself provides air support for planes stationed "outside".

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 9/12/2005 8:34:59 PM

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Yup, that's what they're for...

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 9/12/2005 8:37:44 PM

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quote:

As I see the board is overflowed by experts.

If only you knew.......

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 9/12/2005 8:39:05 PM

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Here are two pictures of a plastic model kit of the Akitsushima.

There you can see why it only has a capacity of 1.

http://www.wohld.com/images/akitsushima_p.jpg
http://www.wohld.com/images/akitsushima_pb.jpg

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 9/12/2005 8:40:26 PM

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Heckfire, son, I got expert advice I haven't even made up yet.

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 9/12/2005 8:40:50 PM

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Damn, that's a big crane...

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 9/12/2005 8:42:00 PM

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Here are two pictures of a plastic model kit of the Akitsushima.

There you can see why it only has a capacity of 1.

http://www.wohld.com/images/akitsushima_p.jpg
http://www.wohld.com/images/akitsushima_pb.jpg

Heck - you could probably put 8 smaller float-planes on the thing instead of 1 Emily!!

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 9/12/2005 8:42:20 PM

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Heh, what is that big fat duck doing there?

Is some Mavis modification???

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 9/12/2005 8:43:38 PM

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Uh-huh, another one of IJN's famous "let's build a special ship for these really really cool planes we're going to build someday if we ever get around to it."

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 9/12/2005 8:44:29 PM

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Now I understand.
Actually if the AV's plane(Emily?) was introduced in the game it can be usefull.
Like super area recon for KB.

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 9/12/2005 8:54:39 PM

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Erm, it's just an Emily patrol flying boat. Available from 1/42.

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 9/12/2005 8:58:24 PM

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I am talking that there is no air group for that AV.
Or is it possible to split 9AC Emily air group that we have in the game.

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 9/12/2005 9:12:28 PM

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Nope. Besides, you can't put a patrol plane on an AV in the game. The Akitsushima (in the pictures we saw) had probably hoisted that Emily on board for repairs. Couldn't catapult launch it, that's for sure.

But here's a surreal thought: reclassify the Emily as a float plane, put it into a one-plane chutai, set the "max aircraft" to 1, and hey, presto! There's your catapult-launched flying whale!

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 9/13/2005 12:07:04 AM

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It could be done with the DB editor. I think the 1-plane float-plane sqdns are exempt from the "must have 2 aircraft to fly missions" rule. So if you -really- wanted to fly Emilies off the thing you could.

I expect however, that the image is of an Emily being repaired. I would expect that flying an emily off of rough seas in the middle of nowhere would frequently be impossible, and "challenging" at best.

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Hm. Interesting. The image is an Emily, but the kit appears to contain a Mavis.

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 9/13/2005 1:33:57 AM

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I think the 1-plane float-plane sqdns are exempt from the "must have 2 aircraft to fly missions" rule.

The rule is, "must have 2 aircraft to fly strike missions."

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 9/13/2005 4:21:22 PM

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Hm. Interesting. The image is an Emily, but the kit appears to contain a Mavis.

A Mevily? Emavis?

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 2/9/2006 5:08:05 AM

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A special seaplane tender just for Emily.

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 2/9/2006 5:05:36 PM

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Found out the hard way that if you convert an AK to an AV it comes with a capacity of 1. I was hoping to make use of all the float planes I had in the home islands but no such luck.

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 2/9/2006 5:06:58 PM

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They can still support +10 at any friendly base or dot.

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 2/9/2006 5:07:53 PM

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As I see the board is overflowed by experts.

If only you knew.......

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 2/9/2006 5:12:49 PM

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Found out the hard way that if you convert an AK to an AV it comes with a capacity of 1. I was hoping to make use of all the float planes I had in the home islands but no such luck.

Put them on ASW and station them all around the Home Islands. That'll keep the Allied sub fleet hopping. They don't hit much, but they will make your opponent crazy.

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 2/9/2006 5:16:12 PM

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It could be done with the DB editor. I think the 1-plane float-plane sqdns are exempt from the "must have 2 aircraft to fly missions" rule. So if you -really- wanted to fly Emilies off the thing you could.

I expect however, that the image is of an Emily being repaired. I would expect that flying an emily off of rough seas in the middle of nowhere would frequently be impossible, and "challenging" at best.

-F-

Hm. Interesting. The image is an Emily, but the kit appears to contain a Mavis.

I though Emilies were flying boats, so you don't have to fly them "off" anything

If you can keep them supplied and in repair, couldn't you theoretically place them in the middle of the ocean?

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RE: IJN Experts only... - 2/9/2006 5:29:52 PM

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I though Emilies were flying boats, so you don't have to fly them "off" anything

If you can keep them supplied and in repair, couldn't you theoretically place them in the middle of the ocean?

In RL, probably. Though sea state could become an issue. It's just easier to sit a boat with flying boat repair facilities at a dock and work from there.

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