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Saturday summary - 9/17/2005 12:24:26 PM

Gen.Hoepner

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Dear readers,

today my opponent will spend the whole day with his family, so that i have some spare time to be dedicated to an overall view of the war.

I'll try to be as precise as i can, looking and explaining all the aspectes of the actual struggle of the Empire of Japan.

Let's start from the Industry/production/resources

Aircraft production

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As you can see from the screenshot, the production concerns mainly fighters.
I'm getting ready to substitute my Nates with Tonies and Tojos and so move them on the "hot fronts". There are still many tony/tojo factories that need to be repaired( 19 Tojos at Tokyo,5 tonies at Nagoya,14 Tonies at Kytakyushu,30 Tonies at Nagasaky) for a total final production of 172 Toniesxmonth and 126 Tojos.
So the production of the Kawasaky engines will be slighly improoved in the next 3 months.
The question is: in what will be automatically trasnformed the OscarI factories? In OscarsII?
I know that i do produce way too many sallies, if considered what normally is needed in a pacific campaign, but my sallies prooved, till now, to have been a decisive factor in the land war both in China and in the PI, so, for the moment, i'm not going to change this.
Same for DinahIIs...i badly need recon planes and altough i produce more that 30 of them each month, my pool is always lacking of them.
No problems with naval bombers ( betties,Vals,Kates etc). Used very few of them till now.

I still have to decide wheter whould be good to concentrate just on a single land-based naval fighter( when the A6M will be obsolete) or to keep the actual industrial structure....any suggest? Jack? Zeke? something else?

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RE: Saturday summary - 9/17/2005 12:50:37 PM

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Industry,oil,resources,fuel etc.

Well, compared to the last industrial report ( 28th April 42) the numbers aren't a lot encouraging.

April - June
Supply 2,851,000 - 3,113,000
Fuel 3,042,000 - 2,997,000
Manp. 69,580 - 151,379
HI 122,146 - 137,084
Res 1,591,000 - 1,568,000
Oil 1,580,000 - 1,538,000
Naval Sh 143 - 2,915
Merc Sh 5,084 - 402
Ship R. 790 - 793
Armament 9,044 - 16,826
Vehicles 2,871- 6,002

What to say?
I'm quite happy with the HI and the supply, and also with fuel, considering that in the last FRaG operation i wasted 130,000 fuel points with no results. What concerns me is oil and resources, which are both getting down, even if i'm sucking from DEI everything i can! For sure his latest bombings in Burma have helped a lot in eliminating some important resources centers that cannot be substituted.
I try to save as much HI as i can, stopping many A/C factories when not badly needed ( vals,Kates,Betties are all stopped at the moment). At the same time i'm saving many supplies, keeping at "not repair" all those R&R factories producing planes that won't come in the next 6 months.
I accelerated many CVEs,CVLs,Tankers and Oilers, and that's and explanation for the fall of the Merchand shipyard points.
All my line CVs in production, that will come in the next 12 months, have been accelerated also, but stopping all the RO-class subs( do not need them at the moment.
Altough not all the armament/vehicles factories are active, the numbers are growing. Will save some HI points here, but untill my major land offensive will go on i'll have to keep an aye on these numbers.

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RE: Saturday summary - 9/17/2005 1:23:44 PM

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FLEET-NAVAL PRODUCTION

Here, as you know, the losses have been very light so far, for both sides.
I have not lost any single warships so far. Not a single DD(...well...no ok i've lost the DD Akebono near Midway in the first week of the war). this is clearly a good point.

Ok,let's take a look at the actual shape of my combined fleet.

At the moment, the Japanese Navy has at her disposal the following major ships:

CV 8
CVL 4
CVE 4

Yesterday arrived at Tokyo the CVL Ryuho and the CVE Chuyo ( the first CV with a radar!).
The shape of these ships isn't that bad. Akagi ( 14 sys) and Shokaku (11 sys) need some R&R and will be moved back to homeland in order to get their repairs and to be ready to be upgraded during the summer. The Zuikaku is at 10 sys damage, but i will try to repair her at Truk. The rest of them is below 8 sys damage, so in a good status.

For what concerns Battleships, H.Cruisers,L.Cruisers, these are the numbers:

BB 11 with Yamashiro(24 sys dmg) repairing at Tokyo and with Haruna ( 13 sys) and Ise ( 10 sys) still sailing in the pacific. The rest of them is below 9 sys damage.
CA 18 with Myoko docked at Shangai since Feb.42 ( sys 26 ) and Kumano ( sys 13) still fighting in the south pac.
CL 20 with only Kashima at 13 sys which is comming back from Suva to Kwalajein.
DD 126 with only 3 of them at 49 sys, while the rest is below 10 sys!

For the rest i've lost 16 AP/AKs, 7 Subs ( still have 56 of them), 5 TKs ( still have 94 between TK and AOs), 11 PG/PCs and 17 MSWs plus 1 DD ( the Akebono). That's all.

What else can i say about the fleet status?
Oh, yes, the CV pilots status.

I try to attach a picture of them. However it seems to me to be good. I'll need to train the newly arrived squadrons of the CVL Ryuho, but for the rest their exp/number is acceptable.

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RE: Saturday summary - 9/17/2005 10:12:15 PM

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Sorry for being OT, but someone could explain me how to read the totals in your picture?
For Oil and Res what's the number to the left of the parentesis? Daily usage? Daily production?

Bye

To Gen. Hoepner: keep up the good work.
I am reading your AAR and I am learning a lot.

Bye.

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RE: Saturday summary - 9/17/2005 10:57:11 PM

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I'm amazed your losses are so low. Over in the land of Fear and Loathing the Japanese lose as many AP/AK every 5 days as you lose in the war, and there are times when the Allies have sunk more APs in one day than you have lost in total.

You have done a really great job, you have very powerful forces available to you, and a lot of flexibility as well.

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RE: Saturday summary - 9/18/2005 2:45:14 AM

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AAR 6/6/42

A very quiet turn.
He moved finally 3 units to Daily. 25,000 men for the moment. I won't attack nor bombard. wanna see what he wanna do now, if force in the middle ( pushing to take daily), in which case i'll move one division in and one more on one of my flanks, or hold me down there with a little force and make his most serious attempt on my flanks, in which case i'll move the whole 16th Army on the most threatened flank, making the Assault strenght of it up to 1100/1200 APs....
The 5th Division is comming from Manila. The 38th is ready to be moved in...just waiting for some APs to come to PI.
So, if i can hold his first attack for 1 week and a half i probably will be soon in a good position to counterattack him and push him back. Flanks, as Hannibal used to say, are always the key of these battles. My dream? See him overcommitt in the middle and outflank him with an overwhelming force....but i know he's smart enough not to do that. probably he will pinn me down at Daily, trying to outflank it. I just need to discover which flank will he chose before i can order to my 16th Army to move in. I really hope he choses the eastern one, which is easier to defend.

In China the flow of troops around Chungking proceeds. 4 divisions on both flanks for the moment. Not bad. Tomorrow we'll make another push northwards from Whochow.

in CENT-PAC my subs spotted another big TF comming to Christmas. Will keep my CVs moving southwest...but now that they're well refueled, i'll linger at 12 hexes from Christmas, just to be ready to jump on that damned TF as soon as i understand where is it going.

the S.S.Det. is 2 days from the Fijis, while my BBs are arriving at Suva.

Thanks Invernomuto for the support! Really appreciated!

Tom, consider that these low losses are on both sides and are dued to his specific bunker tactic. he's been playing very conservative and not aggressive and these are the results. he has lost only 1 BB and a couple of CA/CLs...nothing serious.
The real problem i have is with planes...lost nearly 3000 of them till now, against his 1900 if i remember well

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Sunday summary - 9/18/2005 10:20:23 AM

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No way of sleeping in this rainy semptember sunday morning.
Better to write down something than to waste time playing sad songs with the guitar....

Ok, i thought a lot about Australia.
I re-played many of the last turns in these sleepless morning hours.
My DinahIIs spotted and identified the following troops in the last weeks.

4th Australian Division,3rd Australian Tank Rgt,25th US Div,Sparrow Force, 2nd Aus Cav Div ,193rd US Tank Bn ,Gull Force Bn, 3rd Australian Bde( not sure) and the Australian General HQ. So 10 units out of 16 are indentified. assuming that the 6 units that are missing have the strenght of a division, his forces have defenetly an Assault Value advantage.
I can calculate something like 350 APs for a Allied division and 200/250 for a brigade. So let's say he has 8 Divisions, 2 Brigades, 3 tank regiments and 3 smaller units....this would bring his values up to 2800 ( divisions ) + 400/500 ( brigades) and let's say some more 500 Aps for the rest. It's a total of little less than 4000 APs

.....waaaaaay too much to handle for my understrenght 4 divisions! I have nothing more than 800 APs at Daily, 400 on both flanks, plus something around 700/750 in the rearguard. No way to handle with a clear,plain terrain to fight upon.
My hopes, in these conditions , rely completely on the Divisions that are comming from Manila. But it will take some time and he's already occupied Daily, so to say my center.
Now, as i said i'm moving back my western flank. If you see a previous map of N.Australia, you'll understand why i did that. Due to the hex configuration, the western flank was more difficult to be supplied from Darwin, considering Daily contested and occupied by enemy troops, while moving 60 miles closer to the railway will shorten my supply lines and force him to march 60 more miles to engage my western flank. As always timing would be the key of this battle. I need to be ready to move my 16th army in time to hold the assaulted defences, when and if i do understand where he's going his major offensive. I really think, under these conditions, he will go for the eastern flank. It has less to march and so can clear my flanks faster. As soon as his first units will move in the hex east of Daily i will order to my 16th army to march in, while the tank regiment that is waiting 120 miles west of Daily will start his outflanking movement, in order to cut his supply route or at least, to force him to use one of his units to take care of it. The other flank will be at the beginning only protected by TIME. I hope with this double mouvement ( one flank back and the other one reinforced) to unbalance him. The western flank cannot hold against anything more than 1 Allied division. But the allies will take some 5( i hope) more days to get on my retreated western positions than what it will take them to get on my eastern flank. This...more or less week, must be my saving time! In this period of time i have to threaten him with my 1300 Assault value eastern flank, and possibly force him to retreat, or at least to reorganize. In these hours the 5th Division should be landing at Darwin and so save my day.
But, as Napoleon used to say, even the best plans crumble at the first sight of the enemy

...so we'll see. It's clear that this will be a decisive point in the war.

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RE: Sunday summary - 9/18/2005 1:55:28 PM

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Advice: retreat to Timor/kendari.

You risking many Divs (which by the way could have been used for more important targets or for defence or in China) for what? holding daily waters? really, what's the startegic advantage to hold daily waters in '42 (cause you know that in '43 it's impossible) ?
Taking it early on can be good to block allies from evacuating stuff from DEI to North Australia. But IMO the thumb rule is to get out as soon as it is clear Allies want it back for real. and by your AAR it seems so.

Allies have 6 sleeping Divs in Australia. They can't use them cause of PP points. by going there you have given your opponent 6 free divisions that othewise would be sitting in sidney/brisbane/townsville taking the sun.

If you had Noumea and had there most of SRA army, you could threaten him to invade australia and that way problably prevent him to move so much stuff in North australia. But since Noumea isn't yours, this menace is not existing.
Retreat.

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RE: Sunday summary - 9/18/2005 2:07:54 PM

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Thanks for the advice Kaiser. Your words are wise and meaningfull, but i do disagree.
Daily waters, at the moment, is what is keeping the flow of resources and Oil ,from DEI to homeland, safe and rampant. If i abbandon Daily, i have to leave Darwin. If i leave Darwin 250 4E bombers will soon be based there and at Cooktown. With that, Timor would be bombed to dust, making any defence worthless and the same for PM,Lae,Buna,Gili Gili and the whole New guinea.
With all my bases shut down in this large area he will soon start to plan a limited invasion. Exmouth will fall easily and with the whole Northern oz in his hands, he will be easily able to threaten Java and Borneo. I need to keep the actual perimeter at least for 6 more months, in order to be able to estabilish a series of strongpoints in a kind of a inner perimeter, that goes from Timor to Rabaul and Bouganville Island. It's risky, i know. It's a kind of a gamble. But if i manage to stop this attack now, he will need some more months before being able to smash 4 Jap Divisions and 2 Mix Regiments.
And i need some tojos/tonies to be able to defend my bases against a stiff allied LBbombers campaign.

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RE: Sunday summary - 9/18/2005 3:40:10 PM

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It is also possible that the troops from the Phillipines will arrive in time to seriously disrupt the Allied offensive, maybe even destroy some ground troops.

There is always a risk of failure, but there are also opportunities for substantial success in North Australia. The Americans have lost several divisions fighting to control clapped out Central Pacific guano mines, so the Japanese have a bit of time before the USA can really come after them.

Who knows if this plan will succeed? But it's not a bad plan.

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BURMA ALLARM!!!!! - 9/18/2005 6:59:57 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/07/42

Oh, GOD help me!

today Japanese intel reported that there are 8 (eight!!!!!) units approaching the Chindwin ( spelling?!) river!!!!! This is a tragic news!
I barely have 2 exausted divisions in Burma, under the command of the 15th Army HQ. No arty units or Engeneers are present and there are no jap planes in the range of something like 360 miles!!!!

New orders have been dispatched to Manila. the 1st Fleet command recieved the order to send its transport ships, carring the two divisions that had to go for Singapore and Java, to Bankok along with the 25th Army HQ. In these hours 3 Artillery units are loading in the port of Manila. Same destination. Hope it's not too late....god 8 units...that can mean the 2nd and the 18th UK divisions and those terrible armoured brigades!

I gotta speed up the conquest of China. Chungking is almost completely sorrounded. Will be a tough nut to crack but i 4000 points should be enough.
In southern China i keep going with my advance northwards in order to sorround Changsha and Hengchow.

20 Zeros were LRcapping Kumming and shot down 7 allied transports.

In Northern Oz there are now 5 units at Daily. Still have to understand where he wants to go with those 11 units remaining.

Thanks guys for your support. I badly need it now

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Ground combat at 42,38

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 34984 troops, 346 guns, 12 vehicles

Defending force 14644 troops, 38 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 75 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
176 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
257 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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RE: BURMA ALLARM!!!!! - 9/18/2005 7:45:54 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/08/42

Problems, problems, problems everywhere.
This new threat in Burma makes me sweat. He's destroying my 55th division with his bombers and i simply cannot stop him. The newly formed 25th Army is onroute but it will take it some time to get to Bankok, unload and then march towards Mandalay...and he's moving!
So there are 3 major land campaigns going on. Burma and Australiam where the allies are advancing, and China, where the Japs are winning. Interesting i'd say.

We finally cleared the road that from ichang takes to Chungking. Now i'm slowly taking controll of the chinese roadsystem. He doesn't seem to be worried about Chungking or Changsha...he simply stands there without moving

...well...probably he has strong forces there, but i bet he hasnt more than 2000 APs in Chungking now.

Today the 2nd BB division Bombed twice Suva, while the S.S.Detachment is unloading on the other side of the Fiji island. Soon the ducth base will be ours.

My carriers are still refuelling between Christmas and Canton Island.

In oz...still no sign of moving from his main body army. My bombers paid some nasty visits today to his troops!

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Night Air attack on Daly Waters , at 35,90

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 42
LB-30 Liberator x 35

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged
LB-30 Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
50 casualties reported

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
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Naval bombardment of Suva, at 83,117 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

6 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba
CA Kumano, Shell hits 2
BB Hyuga
BB Ise
BB Fuso

Allied ground losses:
61 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 2

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Day Air attack on 3rd Australian Tank Regiment, at 35,91

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 29
G4M1 Betty x 6
Ki-21 Sally x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 3 damaged

Allied ground losses:
191 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 12

Good morning!
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Day Air attack on Gull Force Battalion, at 35,91

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 15
G4M1 Betty x 8
Ki-21 Sally x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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Day Air attack on 7th Australian Division, at 35,91

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 15
G4M1 Betty x 6
Ki-21 Sally x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 3 damaged

Allied ground losses:
32 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on 55th/C Division, at 34,28

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 7
Blenheim IV x 28
Wellington III x 81
P-40E Warhawk x 12

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
320 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
Vehicles lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:

OUCH!

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Naval bombardment of Suva, at 83,117 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

12 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba, Shell hits 1
CA Kumano, Shell hits 2
BB Hyuga
BB Ise
BB Fuso, Shell hits 1

Allied ground losses:
286 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 8
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 3

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Ground combat at 45,33

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 18209 troops, 196 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 15453 troops, 28 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
173 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Allied ground losses:
178 casualties reported

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

river crossing operation north of Ichang

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RE: Saturday summary - 9/18/2005 8:03:10 PM

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quote:

The question is: in what will be automatically trasnformed the OscarI factories? In OscarsII?

Oscar I upgrades to Tony. Oscar II upgrades to nothing; dead end.

For your Nate units that have good pilots, but that upgrade to Oscar II, you should consider disbanding them into your Nate units that upgrade to Tonys and Tojos before you upgrade them. That way, even though you are still stuck with the small number of units that upgrade to decent a/c now, you can at least put additional good pilots into those few units.

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RE: Saturday summary - 9/18/2005 8:31:06 PM

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But we do play with human upgrade toggled on. So i can chose which group with what plane. But this news isn't the best one Irrilevant. Tonies...so 110 OscarI factories to Tonies...and so a total of 280 tonies produced...way too much for my actual Kawasaki factories.....i'll improove them a bit, but not too much.

Thanks a lot for the info

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RE: Saturday summary - 9/18/2005 8:48:15 PM

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Losing Darwin doesn't affect NG. it affects just Timor. But from Darwin he cn barely reach Kendari and bomb timor. He can't hurt your resource/oil TF going to Java/Borneo and around.

If you think how many supplies/planes/units you are spending defending Darwin in '42 (cause in '43 you will lose North Australia anyway)...it's much more than the resources you can get from Kendari.

You would be right if you can hold him in '43 in North Australia. But in '43 you won't be able, unless you bring there other divs (and by doing that you will suffer in other places). so you doing all that just to hold in '42 what you will lose in '43 anyway.

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RE: Saturday summary - 9/18/2005 9:51:31 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: kaiser73

Losing Darwin doesn't affect NG. it affects just Timor. But from Darwin he cn barely reach Kendari and bomb timor. He can't hurt your resource/oil TF going to Java/Borneo and around.

If you think how many supplies/planes/units you are spending defending Darwin in '42 (cause in '43 you will lose North Australia anyway)...it's much more than the resources you can get from Kendari.

You would be right if you can hold him in '43 in North Australia. But in '43 you won't be able, unless you bring there other divs (and by doing that you will suffer in other places). so you doing all that just to hold in '42 what you will lose in '43 anyway.

Your points are correct Kaiser: i do spend much more resources staying there than leaving and let him bomb ambonia and Kendari. But i know my opponent. As soon as the North Oz affair will be concluded he'll start to move his 4Es to Cooktown and bomb the whole NG. If i lose this battle i can always retreat( ok, i know it will be difficult and expensive but it can be done). But i also know that i have a chance of winning it. And what's war if not a gamble with Destiny?
What if German Armies would have chosen the common sense way of invading france instead of the Ardenne Gamble?
It's all or nothing for Japan. If i cannot have my decisive battle on the seas ( 'cause he stays bunkered) i will have it on the lands of Australia!

Thanks a lot for your comments and suggestions.

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RE: Saturday summary - 9/19/2005 12:59:39 AM

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quote:

Tonies...so 110 OscarI factories to Tonies...and so a total of 280 tonies produced...way too much for my actual Kawasaki factories.....i'll improove them a bit, but not too much.

And what about Tojos? It uses nakajima as the Oscar, so no new engine factories needed. It has similar performance to Tony, at least on paper.

Bye

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RE: Saturday summary - 9/19/2005 1:07:26 AM

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Well, i cannot order the automatic conversions, so i have to live with what the AI gives me.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/09/42

Nothing much new to report today.
He has now 9 units on the way for Mandalay!...god and his bombers keep pinned my 2 divisions in Burma!

In China nothing happened today.

In Oz: one of his tank brigade moved to the hex south west of Daily....so is he going for the western side?...who knows:-(
I just have to hope that the timing of my plan goes well...an alternative would be to wait untill he's completely moved his main body on my flanks, then move the 16th Army in Daily and Smash his center composed by 25,000 men....it would be cool

. But anyhow i have to wait and see.
The 5th division is at 10 days from Darwin....really a long way:-(

Nothing more for today.

Going to bed now.
Good night to all

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ASW attack at 118,92

Japanese Ships
SS I-15, hits 6, on fire, heavy damage*sinks*

Allied Ships
AK Zachary Taylor
APD Gregory
APD Colhoun

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RE: Saturday summary - 9/19/2005 1:46:49 AM

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"If i cannot have my decisive battle on the seas ( 'cause he stays bunkered) i will have it on the lands of Australia! "

This is the key, there are still places where you can win big victories, and I agree it's worth trying. If you don't win big in Australia you end up fighting the same defensive war that you get if you abandon the place. But if you do win big you may get 4 to 1, or you may channel the Allied advance into some place less painful than Darwin - Timor -Kendari.

I think it rates, there is risk but not great risk, and there is a substantial reward.

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Burma allarm - 9/19/2005 8:54:07 AM

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Tom, that's exactly what i was trying to explain in my horrible english. If i lt him advance now it won'tc change much. I need to try to inflict him as much casualities as i can now that i still have the means to do so. In 6 months these opportunities will be gone forever.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/10/42

OZ:

No action today. The bad weather forced my bombers at Darwin down, but didn't affect those bastards at Alice Springs.....: the same usual, boring night raid over Daily.
During the day he did not move anything. The 2nd Aus Tank Rgt is still South-west of Daily, while the bulk of his army (70,000 men ) are still south of Daily( probably moving east or west). My 16th Army is ready to go. The fatigue and distr. levels are decreasing and its assault strenght is more or less 750 by now.

In Burma i'm moving, under the costant attention of his bombers, my 2 divisions towards the front. At the moment the 15th Army is moving northwards in order to be able to stop a river crossing operation of the Chindwin.
The 25th Army is at least 5 days from Bankok....

In China things are going pretty well. He's abbandoning his positions in the south, except for Changsha and Hengchow where he has 100,000 and 50,000 men. I keep on advancing in order to try to cut asap his communication lines. In 2 weeks the siege of Chungking will start

2 Sally daitais are being transfered from China to Darwin.

My CVs are on their way back to Truk.

Mining operations on the way at Singapore, Java, Sumatra, Mariannas, Gilberts, Solomons and New Guinea.

The new 17th Army is taking shape at Truk. It will consist of 2 crack divisions ( the Imperial Guard and the 38th),2 Brigades ( the South Sea Detachment and the 56th), 2 Eng regiments, 2 Heavy mortar Bns. and 1 tank regiment. Its main task will be the defence of the south pacific theatre. It will stay in reserve and come into action only when the allies will start to land somewhere
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Day Air attack on 55th/A Division, at 34,28

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 9
Blenheim IV x 22
Wellington III x 67
P-40E Warhawk x 2

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
115 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

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Day Air attack on 55th/C Division, at 34,28

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 5
Wellington III x 12

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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RE: Burma allarm - 9/19/2005 7:54:51 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/11/42

China:

Tomorrow we'll take kweilin, so interrupting the western railine that goes to Changsha. He's withdrawing every single units, not already stuck in Hengchow,Changsha,Ichan and Chungking, towards Kunming.
I keep on advancing in the south. In few weeks we'll occupy the whole central chinese rail line and will attack Hengchow.
At the same time 8 divisions have been ordered to enter in Chungking, so stopping the resources/supplies production. The 3 remamant divisions will close the envelope and clear the north-western flank from the
rotten chinese corps trying to come back from Chengtu.
In 2 weeks there should be already 3 Armies sieging Chungking ( the 1st, the 13th and the 4th) with 11 divisions, 5 Engeneer regiments, 5 heavy artillery units and 1 tank regiment.
The total amount of APs of these troops is 4000. 2 more divisions and 1 artillery units are coming ( it will take them at least 3 weeks) and i think i can master 1 or 2 more Indipendent Brigades that are at the moment in the Lanchow area.
So in one month there will be 5000/5200 Assault points at Chungking...and 300,000 men! Enough i think to take the place even if well fortified.
So the mid-term strategy ( 3-6 months ) is to hold on in Burma ( with 2 Army-15th and 25th- 4 divisions, 2 brigades,3 arty units and 2 tank regiments), keeping the actual positions; stop the allied advance at Daily and mantain the
foothold in the city and if possible counterattack ( with 2 armies-the 14th and the 16th, with 4 divisions, 2 Mix regiments 4 artillery units and 3 tank regiments). So i have to defend in these theatre and make every effort i can in China, where i have
my real chance of winning the war by the end of 1942. If Chungking falls, China is doomed. I can march and conquest Kunming, Changsha,Hengchow and connetc China with Burma, transfering a bounch of divisions at Rangoon!
But now, my real problems are in oz and Burma. Especially in the latter, where his complete air supremacy is causing a massive damage on my frontline troops.
He keeps pounding my resources centers with his Heaviests and with his medium he hits every day my troops. I desperately need to speed up the arrival of the 25th Army from Manila and at the same time i must try something to stop or at least to slow down his roaming.
In this optic, tomorrow 5 zero daitais (27 planes each) will try to ambush his unescorted B-17 over Rangoon. He's going for the resources. My planes will be based at Tavoy and Reaghen.
At the same time The Singapore Fleet is being formed. 1 CV,2 CVL and 2 CVE are already docked there, along with 2 BBs,4 CAs,4 CLs and 30 DDs ( plus a number of aux ships -PC,PG,MSW,ML etc). The 2 Air fleet is training always at Singapore. I plan to mass here 100 Long range navy bombers ( betties and Nells) with 200 Army bombers and 200 fighters in the next month.

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Night Air attack on Daly Waters , at 35,90

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 35
LB-30 Liberator x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 6 destroyed
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 11

Isn't that boring?

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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,33

Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 30

Allied aircraft losses
LB-30 Liberator: 7 damaged

Oil hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
11 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 33,31

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 77

No Allied losses

And look at the ferocity of these attacks against the 55th Divisional regiments...

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Day Air attack on 55th/A Division, at 34,28

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 6
Wellington III x 17

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
54 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Day Air attack on 55th/B Division, at 34,28

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 7
Blenheim IV x 15
Wellington III x 36

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
140 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

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Day Air attack on 55th/C Division, at 34,28

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 6
Wellington III x 25
P-40E Warhawk x 7

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
71 casualties reported

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RE: Burma allarm - 9/20/2005 9:08:06 AM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/12/42

In China the Expeditionary Army is moving very well. Everywhere we're advancing. Today the undefended Kweilin fell and now my 23rd Army is marching towards Hengchow. In two days the base west of Kweiling will fall too, being defended only by 1 small chinese unit.
At Chungking we're ready to lay the siege on the city, while my bombers keep plastering the place every other day.
In Burma the 25th Army is 2 days from Bankok. In one week we'll be ready to move northwards. At Mandalay the 15th Army is trying to fortify the crossing river positions. A difficult task under the costant umbrella of enemy bombers.
The ambush at Rangoon didn't go: no raids today

In Northern Oz he's not moving anymore....strange. Probably he's waiting for some more units to be trhown in the meatgrinder.
With this timing at least the 5th Division will make it. It's approaching Ambonia in these days. I'm starting to feel rather safe here....

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Ground combat at Kweilin

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 8071 troops, 114 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 279 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kweilin base !!!

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RE: Burma allarm - 9/20/2005 9:09:12 AM

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RE: Burma allarm - 9/20/2005 2:36:40 PM

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Hi, General

Don't you think you are overcomitting in Northern Oz ? I don't remember how much you advanced in SW Pacific, Rabaul, Port Moresby or Noumea, but rather than throw more troops into Northern Oz I will rather land somewhere else, in Perth or in NE Australia, as so many Allied troops are in NW Australia.

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RE: Burma allarm - 9/20/2005 3:49:59 PM

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Hi Amiral,

Surely i'm overcommitting down there, but he has come up with 130,000 men!!! I've numbered at least 5 complete allied divisions, plus some cav.brigades and tank regiments. I could not hold Daily with just 2 divisions.
I really thought about another landing in Western Oz,but it would have unbalanced completely my operational center, which is by now the Southern Pacific. Now that in Burma a new threat is rising, i'm quite happy not to have thrown those divisions somewhere else like noumea,Palmyra or Lungaville.
By now i'm quite sure he has strongly garrisoned all those places with marine divisions and it would have taken me tons of fuel,supplies and men.
If i let him take Daily, then it will be soon the time of Darwin, and with Darwin in his hands my supply line from Dei to homeland would be in terrible danger.
I gotta hold there till 1943, then leave in order and reposition my units in a well defended reare perimeter.
BTW, i took the whole NG and Lunga( taking Fiji in these days)

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/13/42

A new allarm in Burma today( see map for details). The main front, coming from Imphal, is now composed by 10 units

. The new problem, however is another threat taken on my western side. From Akyab are comming down 2 units....they'll probably be more.
I know need to know how many men and tanks there are in those 2 bodies. Some Kamikaze recon planes have been placed at Rangoon and Mouleim. I know they'll be bombed, but i do not care much. need to have more infos!
BTW, the 25th Army is unloading at Bankok. Probably i'll have the time to arrive and prepare a new defensive front between Magwe and Rangoon, while the 15th Army concentrates on the defence of Mandalay.

In Oz he doesn't dare to move...quite strange indeed. My positions are growing stronger and i manage to retreat my western flank ( only one unit is still marching), while the 16th Army is now rested and unfatigued ( with high morale!).
The 5th division is 3 days from Darwin...good! She'll make it!

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Ground combat at Liuchow

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 30046 troops, 328 guns, 11 vehicles

Defending force 7270 troops, 69 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
156 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

This is the only interesting action in China. One more day and we'll attack here ( wating for the Engeneers). Heavy air support requested for the next 2 days in order to prepare the way

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RE: Burma allarm - 9/20/2005 3:51:13 PM

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Ah, Amiral.....i do overcommit in Oz because i still think i have a chance to win. If he makes a bad move, i can envelope some of his units

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RE: Burma allarm - 9/20/2005 4:40:44 PM

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Understood, the move planned in the east on your map above to fall on the Allied rear is interesting, if you manage to cut the Allied supply line you will probably win the battle.

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RE: Burma allarm - 9/20/2005 10:13:41 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/14/42

A damn bloody day.
The turn opens with the usual night raid over Daily. 13 planes destroyed on the ground( 9 zeros and 4 oscars). 5 pilots died in this attack

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Night Air attack on Daly Waters , at 35,90

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 20
LB-30 Liberator x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
33 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 7

Then, as i predicted, he spotted my poor recon chutai at Rangoon and the Storm came as expected from Diamond Harbour.
Something like 140 4 engines bombers attacked the AF. My zeros were on LRCAP from 4 hexes. 54 wasn't a bad number i thought....but the allied bombers were just too many and their box tactic prooved to be a good one!
22 bombers shot down. Many more damaged, but the exchange was 20 zeros lost in A2A

...a draw i'd say but everything is below 4 to 1 is an allied victory

. Now my daitais are licking their wounds at Bankok. they'll need 1 month of training now to get some decent fighting attitudes

However, the sacrifice of my brave pilots wasn't for nothing. Now i know that from Akyab 17,000 men are comming down and with them there's the dreaded 18th UK division! While the results related with the other recon mission are still not so clear.
The 25th Army is unloading at Bankok. Tomorrow every single men should be ashore and we'll start the march towards Rangoon.

In Oz, the 5th Div. is just 2 days from Darwin. In 3 days it should be completely ashore and will start the march to get to the front.
At the same time, i ordered my 16th Army to move on my eastern flank, joining the units already there ( 2 division fragments and 2 tank units with 1 Heavy Mortan Bn.), while a tank rgt will start its long range flanking movement.
He's not moving at all. I move assuming that he's already ordered to his units to move and that the fact that they're taking so much time is due to the opposition of my Land based bombers at Darwin. So i want to be there when he arrives, while the other flank ( the western one ) will be moved back and soon reinforced by the 5th Division and the 16th which is comming from Manila.

In China everything is moving. Quite impossible to take note of everything. However tomorrow another base will fall( kiunming) and my supply route for Chungking will be moving in a south-north direction. He's retreating all his units towards Kunmin.

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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,33

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 59

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 95
LB-30 Liberator x 44

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 17 destroyed, 25 damaged
Ki-15 Babs: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 8 destroyed, 40 damaged
LB-30 Liberator: 13 destroyed, 18 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
402 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 88

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RE: Burma allarm - 9/20/2005 10:14:56 PM

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The new operation is Oz will be called "Closing Door"

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RE: Burma allarm - 9/21/2005 1:13:40 AM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/15/42

A turn full of action.

Burma:

Very very bad news. The defeated regiment that was struggling in the jungle from akyab tryin to get to Rangoon, encountered 1 Armoured Bde,the 18th UK division and one Burma BFF. They shock attacked and the armoured bde was catapulted automatically, rivercrossing at Magwe!!!! Now my Burma railline is interrupted and i only have 1 Divisional regiment based there....too weak to attack and push him back( also because i'm sure tomorrow heavy bombings will fall on my unit). 2 more regiments are comming at Magwe and i really hope i'll be able to counterattack before the 18th will cross the river. The 25th is marching from Bankok....be fast, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The situation is really really serious. The risk is to lose the entire Burma!!!!

China:

No big news. We conquest Liuchow and tomorrow we'll start bombing Hengchow, while the 23rd army is advancing towards Kunming and the 3 shock armies are slowly laying the siege at Chungking.

OZ:

Finally he moved! 3 units are now moving westwards. There should be a division, a tank regiment and a smaller unit ( Bde?). 1 unit entered in th hex, east of Daily, controlled by me where the 16th army is arriving ( 5-10 miles today). My tank regiment has already moved for 30 miles in its flanking manouver.
Tomorrow the 5th Div will land at Darwin.
Everything is to be decided yet.

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Ground combat at Liuchow

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 35331 troops, 353 guns, 11 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese assault odds: 759 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Liuchow base !!!

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Ground combat at 30,29

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 24856 troops, 210 guns, 503 vehicles

Defending force 932 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 155 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
113 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
134 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

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