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RE: Bug? - 9/23/2005 8:36:41 PM

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I wouldn't call either gamey, although I do restrict night bombing to city attacks.

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RE: Bug? - 9/24/2005 2:55:50 AM

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Dunno if it's gamey, but it's the way we've agreed at the beginning and the rules should not be changed when the race has started.

However, we're back in buisness!

We'd agreed at a kind of little house rule to restric some minor movements on that particular hex where his units are going to come.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/25/42

Today was a good day.
We've conqured Kweyang, a level 5 AF and the heart of chinese internal railways. The war in China is going very well. Hengchow has fallen and 9000 more chinese are now in the bag. Now, while 2 armies will keep the siege laid on Ichang and Changsha, the rest of the units not involved at Chungking will march towards Kunming, in order to lay siege and to stop the supply production.
My bombers now can operate very close to Chungking and this should reduce the ops losses.
Kunming,Chungking,Ichang,Sining,Lenchow and Changsha will be bombed every day till the end of the chinese campaign from now on.
I plan a great pocket in the Nanning area with 90,000 chinese stuck there

...would be tough cause i only have 2 naval guard units closing the door towards Kumming...but i will try.

In Burma my 25th Army arrived at Magwe and tomorrow we'll attack, trying to push back his tanks. 40 Nells will support the action from Bankok.
At Bankok the 38th Division is unloading.
He keeps bombing me but i feel a bit less worried now that i have 4 divisions in Burma, but i must remember to be elastic.

In oz,...well...he has too many troops. Now 3 Full Aus Divs+ 1 Tank Bde are on my eastern flank. I have strenght for 2 divs and 2/3 but it won't be enough, also because my bombers, those bastards, refuse to fly. it's been a week now since they do not attack his units..and the weather is awesome!!! What's happening!!?!?!?!
However i bombarded today...results were fantastic! 500 allies died and many squads disabled!!!

My 16th Div is now ready to be moved to the front. Start the march today from Darwin. Gotta pay attention on my western flank now.

He started to send again his subs at Canton and Baker Isl.

Today i sent back to homeland the first 15 DDs for their upgrades. From now on, each month 15 DDs will be upgraded.

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Ground combat at Hengchow

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13148 troops, 120 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 7510 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Japanese assault odds: 27 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Hengchow base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
9119 casualties reported

Guns lost 5

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Ground combat at 36,90

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 59813 troops, 746 guns, 18 vehicles

Defending force 43967 troops, 335 guns, 139 vehicles*these are the australian troops west of Daily*

Japanese ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
494 casualties reported

Guns lost 19
Vehicles lost 14

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RE: Bug? - 9/24/2005 11:17:59 AM

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Now that the "bug" problems seems to be worked around, as usual, on saturday, i'll make some considerations about the war.

In my opinion now the chances of a crushing victory in Oz are gone. He's too strong on his flanks for me to be able to defeat him there. 3 Oz Divisions+1 tank bde on the eastern flank and 2 divisions+1 tank bde on the east. Simpy too much. I probably am able to hold at the moment, but in the long run he's going to call in some more units, while i ran out of divisions.
Now i just wanna see what he wants to do, if attack or wait, but the inability of my bombers to attack his troops ( really weird and strange, considering that they've been doing these sort of missions for months) reduces again any hope of victory. One chance could be trying to break his center at Daily. He has 2 divisions there and i probably can bring in my 16th Div as soon as his western flank shows where it wants to go. But with 1200 APs i'm unsure if i will be able to break his line there....However, an evacuation plan is taking shape in my mind. 300 AP/AKs are ready between Manila,Sosarbaja and Darwin. 30 DDs and 10 CA/CLs as supporting force, while my fighters would have, as always, the tougher job.

In China things are going really well. If i consider how depressed i was few months ago, when the first 2 battles for Ichang ended in a crushing defeat, i can really consider myself lucky. He's been very good at the first stages of this chinese war, but then he probably lost his flexibilty when he decided to defend Ichang with 300,000 men, leaving no active reserves in his rearguard. Now a very good supply route from HK to Chungking is open and i threaten directly Kumning, while Changsha and Ichang are completely cut out from any supply route.
The key will be chungking. I think i can get it, if i have patience and perseverance. i calculated something between 1500 to 2000 APs for him there, but with no supply at all these values can be reduced greatly. I'll have 5200 APs in the next 30 days there, so enough in my opinion.
If i manage to hold Burma long untill Chungking falls i can save the whole game. Chungking will bring me beyond 4-1 ratio and with 5000 APs free, i can master to take Kumming easily (80,000 men there) and then march the way trhoug Burma with 10 Divisions that can easily hold the Burma front, while the rest of my units take care of Changsha and Ichang.

The only real problem would be his 4Es....if he decides to attack Chinese AFs he can have a sloughterhouse there.....my CAP is ridiculous and i gotta do something about this. A bit more of balance....

In The pacific there insn't much i can do for the moment. My CVs need rest and some upgrades, as my DD fleet and my Zeros/Kates are training in the PI and at Singapore. I keep on fortifying my inner perimeter ( Tarawa is almost at level 9 forts with 2500 mines!

) concentrating on Bouganville, Green Island and the whole Rabaul area.

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RE: Bug? - 9/24/2005 12:24:56 PM

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Hi GH,

Just to say I love your AARs.

You put in a lot of effort writing narrative in addtion to the reports,etc. I am just starting to read the forum AARs, so got alot to catch up. Yours is already pg 15!

Ah, so much to read and learn and enjoy reading!

Thanks and keep up the good work!
Cheers!
Patrick

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RE: Bug? - 9/24/2005 1:18:13 PM

Gen.Hoepner

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Thanks a lot Patrickl, really appreciate when someone likes what u do

I do like a lot writing the AAR. It helps to concentrate on the strategy and the exchanged opinions shared here help a lot in alaboratining news tactics and strategies.
I am disappointed only about the level of the writings. When i read the "Fear and Loathing" AAR, or the old Tayne's one, i just got depressed cause i envy(sp??) those who can write in their own mother lenguage. My english is ok, but cannot express any deep concept or create a kind of a novel based upon the combat report as i'd like to do...

But, as this situation won't change, i'm happy like that.

Still thanks for reading and for your kind comment.

Ciao

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RE: Bug? - 9/24/2005 3:03:50 PM

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Fear and Loathing is fun to read, and fun to write. But no one is going to learn how to play the game from reading them. We leave a lot out when it comes to strategy, and as Adm. Laurent mentioned recently there is not a lot of discussion of defeat, much less the reasons for defeat or victories for that matter.

On the other hand your Italian Job has very good discussions of strategy on both sides. It may not be as funny but people can tell what is going on, so it is much more informative. Keep up the good work.

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RE: The Italian Job 2- Gen.Hoepner(J)-vs.-Mc3744 - 9/25/2005 2:17:56 AM

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Hi AmiralLaurent

quote:

ORIGINAL: AmiralLaurent

You have 12 divisions, 5 brigades, 3 regiments at start. In my current PBEM, for phase 1 (until the end of January) I use them like that:

Malaya: 4 Div (Imp, 5, 18, 55) + 1 Rgt
Objectives: take all Malaya (completed around the 20th January).

Burma: 1 Div (33) + 1 Bde + 1 Rgt
Objectives: take S Burma, reach Mandalay and lay siege (completed around the 15th January)

Sumatra: 1 Div (38th after HK) + 1 Bde
Objectives: take Palembang (game is currently 28th January and town will fall before the end of the month)

Borneo: 1 Bde (35th) + naval troops
OBjectives: take Brunei + Miri, later expanded to take Kuching + Singkawang with 35th Bde and Tarakan with naval troops. Both operations completed but I don't like to take Kuching as it is a little too far away from my airfields and was right another time. Force Z attacked at night, sank a BB and very heavily damaged one. It lost the Repulse, 2 CL and 4 DD to naval fire and aerial torpedoes.

Celebes: 1 Bde (56th)
Objectives: take Amboina quickly, so convoys for Australia may transit and refuel here. Then take Kendari to turn it into a powerful airbase. Completed in December. The Bde has since sailed for Mindanao, taking Menado on the fly.

Australia & Timor: 4 Div (all troops starting around Japan)
Objectives: take the whole of Timor and the 4 bases in NE Australia. Destroy as much troops as possible. Completed around 20th January.

PI: 1 Div (48th) + 1 Bde (65th)
Objectives: seizing N of Luzon up to Lingayen, then turn Lingayen into a powerful airbase. Completed in mid-January. Now waiting for reinforcements. Secondary operations in Mindanao with naval forces and (lately) 56th Bde. Davao will fall in some days.

Pacific: 1 Rgt (South Seas) and naval troops
Objectives: take Guam and Wake. Completed in December. Now waiting more troops and the return of CVs to do more.

My own view is that Japan needs Borneo, Java and Sumatra before the end of April, and in the best shape possible, so it is safer to take them before. By this date the oilfields should be out of range of Allied bombers so you should have also Timor and S Burma.

Thank you very much, you are a pal!

The Holy Grail.. OOB for Japanese on 7 Dec 41!!

Wanted this info for a loooooong time! AARs.. got the read more!! Thanks once again
Kind regards
Patrick

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RE: The Italian Job 2- Gen.Hoepner(J)-vs.-Mc3744 - 9/25/2005 12:25:05 PM

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Thanks Tom for your kind words!

Patrickl, AmiralLaurent was surely the one who i have to thank the most for the japanese strategy in this match. Altough i hadn't followed 100% his detailed strategy, i admit that the general idea of going to Oz at the beginning of the war is his!

MC is out for the week end, so no turns till tonight ( European time). However there' s something that i would like to discuss with you readers.

It concerns the planes production.
At the moment, i'll produce ( starting from August) something like 170 Tonies and 120 Tojos each month. With them there are also scheldued 110 OscarsII that are scheldued in the stock scenario. Till now i've let this industry alone and i kept halted the repair of these 110 till 2 weeks ago. Now 10 out of 110 are ready, but the real question is: Would be better to keep the oscarII or better is to concentrate on Tony/Tojo? I do not like the idea of encrease again the Kawasaki engine production, so if i switch the oscarsII i'll switch them to Tojo, but is it worth? Will the oscarsII be usefull? Or better to switch them to something like the George ( for the Navy)??

Any ideas?

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RE: Bug? - 9/25/2005 12:27:40 PM

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I'm not sure.. the Oscar IIs will be useful for escorting long range strikes, so probably at least a small reserve of them would be handy. But compared to the Tony and Tojo they are complete crap. So.. produce a small amountfor the situations they'll be useful in, but your goal should be production of the advanced fighters in the largest numbers possible IMHO.

The George is a good plane! Perhaps you could use some spare Oscar factories to help research it..

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RE: The Italian Job 2- Gen.Hoepner(J)-vs.-Mc3744 - 9/25/2005 1:04:35 PM

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Hi GH,

I have just finished reading your 15 pages AARs. The best I read so far!

. I like your detailed running commentaries and arguments on strategies, tactics and operational issues, supplemented by combat reports and perhaps more importantly, screenshots and maps with annotations! A picture tells a thousand words!

Your AARs should serve as a textbook guide to playing Sc 15 Japanese - adventures to all theatres with Russia and India yet to come - the best is yet to be? I just have to admire your guts for going over mountains to Chungking that led to MC's fall in China.

Incidentally, what is the score now - near 4 to 1 ?

Cheers and I will be rooting for you

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RE: The Italian Job 2- Gen.Hoepner(J)-vs.-Mc3744 - 9/25/2005 1:13:15 PM

Gen.Hoepner

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Wow

....do not what to say Patrickl....thanks, really!
India,Russia?...no Patrickl, quite impossible at the moment. I am already on the defence in Burma and Oz and it's not sure wheter i can hold there or not.

However, The question, Alikchi, is wheter is better to convert those 110 oscarII factories or not. If i convert it to Tojos, let's say, i will have to pay ..something like 70,000 supplies in order to get 70 tojos out of those 110 oscarsII and if i want to have a small production of oscarsII i have to convert another smaller factories to that new model...so more supplies burnt! probably...wouldn't be better to let that factory alive and if i need, improove the production of Tojos somewhere else where that model is already in production?

the score is something like 21500 Jap vs 6500 Allies...so something between 3-1 and 4-1...if and when Chungking falls and i do not lose Burma or my divisions in Oz, i'll be somehow above the 4-1, and so he will have to rush during autumn to get back with points

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RE: The Italian Job 2- Gen.Hoepner(J)-vs.-Mc3744 - 9/26/2005 12:23:15 AM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/26/42

.....2 divisions+2 brigades + 2 tank bdes at Daily....wow...that's a lot of stuff!
He should have 2 more divisions on my western flank and 3 on my eastern. No way to break here or there. Gotta hope for a mistake of MC....

In Burma we manage to push back the armoured Bde from Magwe. The 25th Army prooved to be very very important.

No sign of his heaviests today, both in Burma and Oz...strange.

In China everything is going well. Need some more weeks before starting the attack on Chungking

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Ground combat at Daly Waters

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 46813 troops, 519 guns, 7 vehicles

Defending force 50224 troops, 419 guns, 19 vehicles

Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Ground combat at Magwe

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 69892 troops, 684 guns, 21 vehicles

Defending force 9663 troops, 34 guns, 495 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 15 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
301 casualties reported
Guns lost 13
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
264 casualties reported
Guns lost 8
Vehicles lost 3

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at 36,90

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 59749 troops, 744 guns, 18 vehicles

Defending force 42825 troops, 307 guns, 120 vehicles

Allied ground losses:
182 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
Vehicles lost 4

This is my eastern Flank
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RE: The Italian Job 2- Gen.Hoepner(J)-vs.-Mc3744 - 9/26/2005 9:05:19 AM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/27/42

Today he started to bomb Daily at night again. Look at the numbers and imagine the result.....15 planes destroyed on the ground. However ( see map), he really has a strong force to take back N.Oz. I need to play it carefully. For the moment he's unable to defeat my eastern flank where the reinforced 16th Army is making him pay a high price in terms of bombings. With only 3 units on the eastern flank ( 20,000 men ) that he has i fell rather safe for the moment. My 16th Division is moving 120 Miles north of Daily and will keep my rearguard clean and safe, while the 5th Div will reinforce my western flank, bringing the APs up to 800.
My fighters at Daily will pay the higher price...i know...but it's a calculated sacrifice.

In Burma he moved one unit southwards from his previous positions north of Mandalay. Now the city is directly threatened. The 38th Division is arriving from Bankok, along with a regiment of the 55th. have to study a counterattack plan here..... he can be vulnerable!

In China everything goes as scheldued.New units arrived at Chungking today and will help the bombing session.
We're slowing advancing in the south of China and the 23rd Army is ready to move towards Kumming.

In The pacific, the only movement is his sub-minelaying activity at Baker and Canton Island...nothing to really be scared about.
Many ships going up and down from and to Bora Bora....thinking of a CV raid in the next future.

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Night Air attack on Daly Waters , at 35,90

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 54
LB-30 Liberator x 38
B-24D Liberator x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 4 destroyed
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
LB-30 Liberator: 2 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 85375 troops, 1020 guns, 17 vehicles

Defending force 123715 troops, 617 guns, 48 vehicles

Allied ground losses:
147 casualties reported

He has quite a strong force here.....

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Ground combat at 36,90

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 59762 troops, 738 guns, 18 vehicles

Defending force 42134 troops, 295 guns, 115 vehicles

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
333 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 2

This is the eastern flank of Daily waters....i outnumber him in terms of guns, which is damned good!--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at 36,90

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 25676 troops, 170 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 72882 troops, 736 guns, 322 vehicles

And this is his reponse...:-)

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RE: The Italian Job 2- Gen.Hoepner(J)-vs.-Mc3744 - 9/26/2005 9:06:32 AM

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RE: The Italian Job 2- Gen.Hoepner(J)-vs.-Mc3744 - 9/26/2005 3:13:10 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/28/42

Another round of night raid at Daily. 12 more planes on the ground.
Nothing else moved in N.Oz today.

In Burma he moved an Indian Division southwards, threating directly Mandalay( see map). The 65th Bde, one Art unit and one regiment of the 55th Div will guard the city, but i'd need to find a way to counterattack and unbalance him somewhere here.....
The 38th will move to Rangoon along with an Eng Rgt.
Some AA units placed at Magwe.

In China we're ready to push forwards and close the pocket of Nanning. This would be a boost in terms of points and morale! 80,000 possible pows...

LRCAP at Chungking ordered for tomorrow, while 200 bombers will hit the airbase and the supply depots.

4 More DDs upgrading at Hongkong.

No good news from my ASW planes at Canton island and Baker. I'd need some more experienced planes for that task! Already identified 6 minelayer subs in that area.

the 56th Bde and the S.S.D. are coming back to Truk and Kwalajein from Suva. They'll rest and form along with the Imperial Guard Division and the 15th Mortar regiment, the body of the 17th army that will operate in the South Pacific.

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Night Air attack on Daly Waters , at 35,90

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 30
LB-30 Liberator x 62
B-24D Liberator x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 6 destroyed
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged
LB-30 Liberator: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 7

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Ground combat at Ichang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 116975 troops, 1363 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 126033 troops, 143 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported

These bastards are out of supplies since 3 months...and are still able to fight back...

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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 85561 troops, 1026 guns, 17 vehicles

Defending force 123722 troops, 622 guns, 51 vehicles

Allied ground losses:
71 casualties reported

Need to intensify my air bombing campaign here before starting the real attacks!

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Ground combat at Changsha

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 51502 troops, 747 guns, 5 vehicles

Defending force 83358 troops, 244 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied ground losses:
113 casualties reported

As soon as my 12th Army will take out those 80,000 men in the pocket of Nanning-Pakhoi, we'll take care of Changsha
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RE: The Italian Job 2- Gen.Hoepner(J)-vs.-Mc3744 - 9/26/2005 9:36:38 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/29/42

In China we're moving quite fast towards Kumming. 3 Divisions, 2 arty units, 2 eng rgt and 3 divisional regiment are marching with the 23rd Army. In 2 weeks we should lay the siege and stop the supply production there.
No sign of enemy airlifting at Chungking. My zeros on LRCAP didn't find anything. So far so good.
Tomorrow we'll LRCAP Kumming and will start a heavy bombing campaign against his last chinese bases in western China. No need to waste planes and pilots against Ichang or Changsha now that they're completely out of any supply route.
In the meanwhile the pocket at Nanning is closing in. Tomorrow the 12th Army will move from Wochow and cross the river westewards! BANZAI!!!!

In burma he's making havoc over my troops N of Mandalay. 300 bombers attacked them today, and the losses are very very high. Over 1200 casualities

In oz, Nothing new.
Usual Night bombing over Daily.
Usual daylight bombing over the advancing allied troops( yes, my bombers are flying again...do not ask me how and why

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What else?
Shokaku arrived today at Tokyo and started to R&R and upgrade.
4 more DDs started their upgrade procedures today at Hosaka.
The solomons are being heavily mined and garrisoned.
Bouganville is now a strongpoint, having 3 AFs at level 4, one Air Army HQ and 500 AV support points divided in 3 bases.

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RE: The Italian Job 2- Gen.Hoepner(J)-vs.-Mc3744 - 9/27/2005 12:43:52 AM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/30/42

A good day.

Pakhoi fell at the first attempt. Now Nanning will be next. The only problem is that now i only have 2 naval guard units facing 80,000 fleeing chinese that are trying to use the trails to get to Kumming...i have the 23rd army quite close at 45 miles east of Nanning but i doubt 2000 men can stop 80,000 at that crossroads. However the south of China is falling quickly and my 12th Army is very close to Kumming...
And, above all...today 2 big raids over Kumming plastered the airbase and 20 zeros on LRCAP shot down 21 allied transports

Tomorrow we'll stop for one day and soon we'll keep on ambushing his airlift duties from Burma to China.

In Burma he's killing thousands of men each day with his bombers...very depressing

I try to rotate my front units...but it's a damned tough job!

In Oz...nothing new. allied night raids. Japs' reponses during the day.

Thnking of placing the 35th bde at Java ...just in case he's thinking of a landing with the RN here....

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Day Air attack on Kunming , at 38,32

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 58
Ki-21 Sally x 123
Ki-48 Lily x 20
Ki-49 Helen x 23
Ki-46-II Dinah x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 3 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 3 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
343 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 168

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Day Air attack on Kunming , at 38,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 12
Ki-49 Helen x 35
Ki-15 Babs x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 5 damaged

Allied ground losses:
54 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 38

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Ground combat at Pakhoi

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7660 troops, 89 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 4158 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Pakhoi base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
44 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
40 casualties reported

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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RE: The Italian Job 2- Gen.Hoepner(J)-vs.-Mc3744 - 9/27/2005 1:32:05 AM

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From the map above you can eaily see how the situation is fluid in China.
My main goal was to obtain and keep a constant mobility. Till now i managed to have this issue. However now what really counts is that i need to destroy some of his units, in order to be able to mass my troops and destroy him piece by piece. I shoul be able to destroy 20,000 men trapped west of Ichang as soon as those 2 more units you see will be in place and close the gap. Then there's the pocket of nanning, where 80,000 chinese are trapped without supply. I probably won't be able to cut and destroy them, but at least those 80,000 men will arrive at Kumming so fatigued and destroyed that they will not rapresent any real threat.
What is important now is to keep shut the airfields at Kumming,Chungking,Sining and Lanchow, from where he can be able to launch a strong RAF bombing campaign ( he's already told tthis to me in his last mail).
So, LRCAP over his bases, Massive bombing campaigns and keep on advancing.
Probably it will take me another month before i can manage to have at Chungking all my 5200 APs....really too much time! but could not do anything else due to the river crossing rule...
However...i could master in 1 month at least 1200 Aps at Kumming...probablu enough to threaten him. if needed i can send some of these to Chungking and keep just 600 Aps at Kumming in order to keep the resources centers closed.

In Burma...well...with his bombing campaign i start to feel less confortable. Every day i lose 1000/1200 men there due to his raids.....in these conditions, if he comes in force ( and he'll do that!) i'm not so sure i'll be able to hold him....

Any tips or advice?

In Oz?...well...now my hopes rely on my western flank where i can master 2 divisions,1 Mix Regiment and one divisional regiment plus a tank rgt. He has 1 Division, one Cav Bde and one tank Bde....i can do it!

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RE: The Italian Job 2- Gen.Hoepner(J)-vs.-Mc3744 - 9/27/2005 9:02:58 AM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/01/42

July has begun...and with July my CVs took the bad compositions :-( More useless Vals and less valuable Kates...so stupid!!!!!! But above all i'm *****d off cause i have to add some unexperienced pilots to my carrier trained crews...
Ok, this won't change the course of the war but it's something i really do not understand.
He's upgrading his CVs too now...... from now on i'll have to be extracarefull in the pacific: he can show up everywhere with 6 carriers!!!

Today we bombed Tsuyung( 60 miles)N-W of Kumming....there are 3 units for 30000 men there...and considering that no casualities were reported, probably there isn't any base force there...so 30,000 infantry men.....so to say that he's probably moving 3 corps into Burma using the Burma road....problematic!

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Day Air attack on Tsuyung , at 37,31

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 112
Ki-48 Lily x 18
Ki-49 Helen x 20
Ki-46-II Dinah x 7

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 19
Runway hits 70

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Ground combat at Daly Waters

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 46467 troops, 408 guns, 20 vehicles

Defending force 66106 troops, 596 guns, 7 vehicles

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
51 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

He tried to bomb Daily with his troops....these were the results

Quite happy about the Oz situation. My 5th Div is now on my western flank, waiting for his tanks to come in...i'll deliberately attack as soon as he comes, supported by 170 bombers from Darwin

Today we expanded another 10 points of Kawasaki engine factory. We're producing now 180 engines each month. Never enough but it's not that bad.
The totat amount of Tojos scheldued for production is now 220. This number, with the 190 Tonies and the 110 Oscars II should allow me to have some 500+ good IJA fighters each month.

2 Eng rgt sent from Manila to Sosarbaja( need to build up the port at 9) and Shortland ( need to have a level 4 AF and a level 5 port, as long as some 9 forts).

My surface fleet is upgrading. Some more AA, but above all some more ASW for my DDs....this will be very usefull from late 42.

Except for those poor bastards that are fighting against the 4Es at Daily ( 4 zeros daitais and 2 oscar sentais), my fighter squadrons are again on an average of 75 exp. Not fantastic, but not bad at all. I have at least 200 IJA fighter pilots in their 80s and some more 150 in their 70s....my Tonies will be quite effective i Hope.

Do you need any specific info?
Production,Maps,something else?

just let me know....

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Victory or Defeat....we live on the edge - 9/27/2005 3:10:09 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/02/42

July is a decisive month.
In the next days everything will be decided: Burma,Oz,China.

Today was a very very important day. In Burma he crossed the river north of Mandalay with his army. 1 Indian Division,1 HQ ( probably) , 2 arty units and 1 Tank bde. The shock attack ended in a defeat for the allies, but my troops aren't in a good shape. The 15th Army is suffering both for the costant air bombings and for malaria. Nevertheless tomorrow we'll try to push him back, hoping that those 3 more units that are still to come won't arrive tomorrow. 750 APs i have there. I know tomorrow his bombers will make any effort trying to break my predictable attack. For this emergency i've moved in Burma 130 bombers and some fighters from China, where, however, i'll keep on bombing his bases, even if with less a/cs for the moment. My bombers will try to support the attacking 15th Army...if i succeed the main threat will be over for the time being....if i lose tomorrow he will still have to dislodge me from there and it won't be easy.

In Oz 1 Cav bde and one Tank Bde arrived on my positions on the western flank. The 4th Austr. Div is a bit late probably because of my costant bombing. However, tomorrow 180 bombers from Darwin will try to attack his positions there and 150 fighters at Daily are ut on LRCAP(command discretion)-2 hexes range. I have something like 750 APs there....let's see if it's enough or not. If i manage to route hime there...wow....the whole campaign will be changed!

In China tomorrow, while the siege on Chungking is being laying and while my armies march towards Kumming, my 2 small Naval units will attack 80,000 chinese west of Nanning. I know i'll obtain only a 0-1, but however i will clear the movement of his troops...gaining so time for my army that is approaching nanning. All the bombers remained in the area of Southern China will support this operation.

Nothing new in the pacific.

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Ground combat at 45,34

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6807 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 6388 troops, 53 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
62 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
312 casualties reported

His 7 units trying to get out of the pocket west of Ichang

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Ground combat at 34,28

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 16562 troops, 113 guns, 469 vehicles

Defending force 48478 troops, 418 guns, 154 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
216 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Allied ground losses:
1641 casualties reported
Guns lost 41
Vehicles lost 24

The river crossing north of Mandalay....

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RE: Victory or Defeat....we live on the edge - 9/27/2005 3:11:07 PM

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RE: Victory or Defeat....we live on the edge - 9/27/2005 4:51:19 PM

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Hi GH,

Looking good. Can spare some more troops to Burma? If you can can you show a screen shot of your airplane production - I am taking notes from you Herr Professor!

. Just to inform you, I don't read mc's thread. I think 1 sided threads are more meaningful .. you can bare your soul and seek advice - provided your opponent don't read

. The readers can really analyse and appreciate the war better. I must say your situation is looking good. Go for the 4 to 1 and wrap up the game! BANZAI!

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RE: Victory or Defeat....we live on the edge - 9/27/2005 8:23:21 PM

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Waiting for the next turn to come in....

Hi Patrickl, i'll post the plane production as soon as i get the new turn, however, i can say that i'm thinking a lot in these days about the aircraft production. there are many things that are still not clear. For example. The ki-100, army fighters, isn't listed in the upgrade path of my army fighters....and none indipendent new groupd is scheldued to come in with these planes...what to do????

Do Sallies and Helens factories automatically upgrade to Peggy as soon as this plane comes available?
Is it woth to expand towards 100 the Jack production? Is it better than the A6M3? It uses Mitsubishi engine...which is a good thing.
Another question is wethere is worth is produce even more Kawasaki engines...at the moment i produce 160 of them each month with a pool of 900...but as soon as the Tonies become available i'll need 270 engines each month!!! Again: what to do!?
And what about the Randy....is it worth to keep some Sonias-Anns-Lilies groups in order to be able to upgrade them to this fighter bomber in late 44????

This game is so complex!!!

Ok, now some overviews on my Defensive strategy in the pacific.

As you all know i've already reached my maximun extension here. My plans are to delay his path towards mariannas. Being this the final goal the general stragey is based upon 2 main concepts: Strongpoints and flexibility.
My defences are being built around 3 perimeters.
The external one will be used as a "pillow". Canton Island,Baker,Pago Pago,Fiji,Lunga-Tulagi,Gili gili, PM,Lae and Wake, will be my sentinells. They'll be lighly garrisoned ( none of these bases will have more than 200 Assault points and 30 Aviation support points), with very few of them with CD units ( actually only Canon,PM and Wake). He will have to touch one of these bases before advancing again, and when he will start his landing operations i'll allert my fleet and my Air and ground armies.
No Major efforts will be made to defend these bases. Probably some carrier operations, but only if supported by a strong LBA force. So to say Baker and Nanoumea ( with LBAs based at Tarawa), PM-Gili Gili-Lunga ( with LBAs at Rabaul and Bouganville). Canton,Fiji,Pago pago and probably Wake will be left to their own destity.

The second perimeter is built around 3 Major strongpoints: New Britain and Bismark Isls., Bouganville and Tarawa.
This will be my second defensive line. Each base will have at least 100/150 Aviation support, at least 200/250 Assault points, at least 1 CD gun unit and one Air HQ with enough radius to coordinate air attacks from different bases.( see map for details).
All these bases will be full of fighters,bombers and recon-search planes. The combined fleet along with the pacific Carrier fleet ( 7 CVs+2 CVLs+1 CVE) will be committed if needed. The 17th Army, based at Truk and composed by 2 Crack divisions ( the Imperial and one yet to be decided), 2 Bdes -South Sea Det and the 56th, 2 arty units and 2 Eng Rgts, will be ready to attempt a counterlanding or reinforce threatened places.
Each of these bases will be heavily mined ( i plan to lay at least 1000 mines in each base in the next 30 days).
Assuming that China will be mine within the next 6 months i'll be able to transfer one or 2 more divisions in this theatre.
However the key of this concept of defence is to have a serie of bases that can protect each other easily.
if i know him a bt he'll start bombing to dust PM or Lunga with his 4Es and make a Fast Transport landing at Gili Gili or Lunga.As soon as he commit his normal transports or his CVs i'll activate my betties/Nells and my 11 range zeros,in coordination with the pacific KB, keeping the Tojos-Tonies for CAP duties, and will try, if the possibility arises ( no allied CVs around), a counterlanding with the 17th Army.
The other way he could take is from Palmyra. If i was him i'd invade Baker Island, bombing Canton with my BBs, build up a 4 level AF and start to reduce Tarawa into pieces. Same as before: i'll mass my Betties-Zeros at Tarawa, allert the CVs and the Combined Fleet and the 17th army.

The third and last perimeter is rapresented by Truk and Kwelajein.
Useless to say that any attempt will be made to make these bases invincible.

So, very few supplies/fuel will be leaved in the external perimeter bases, while the bases of the second perimeter will have at least 15k supplies and 10k fuel each, using Truk and Kwelajein as main Hubs( at the moment i have 350,000 fuel at Truk with 200,000 supplies;100,000 and 100,000 at Kwelejein; 90,000 and 35,000 at Rabaul and 10,000 supplies in the other bases).

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RE: Victory or Defeat....we live on the edge - 9/27/2005 8:24:33 PM

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Lights of victory - 9/28/2005 1:18:34 AM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/03/42

WHAT A DAY!!!!

Burma:
one more Indian division came in ( 1 hex N of Mandalay)....we deliberate attacked....and kicked their butt out of Burma again!

Ground combat at 34,28

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 44863 troops, 417 guns, 155 vehicles

Defending force 27931 troops, 179 guns, 443 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
1421 casualties reported
Guns lost 44
Vehicles lost 12

Allied ground losses:
571 casualties reported
Guns lost 11
Vehicles lost 3

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Losses were a bit high...but the destruption should be on his side!
Now i gain some more days...probably 1 month before those bastards can organize a new attack near Mandaly. Now it's time to concentrate on the western british attack ( near Magwe!)

Thunderstorms really helped me today. Not a single bomber flew in Burma

CHINA:

On the crossroad west of Nanning, 2 naval guard units pushed back thousands of chinese men

...and they retreated exactly where wanted them to go...towards Nanning and not northwards towards Kumming

...the pocket now is ready to be closed

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Ground combat at 38,37

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6272 troops, 34 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 25743 troops, 34 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
150 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Allied ground losses:
206 casualties reported

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Then...another big match...60miles N-W of Daily Waters....his last Austr division arrived just in time to be pushed back:-)))))

Ground combat at 34,89

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 42243 troops, 444 guns, 163 vehicles

Defending force 16811 troops, 138 guns, 71 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
619 casualties reported
Guns lost 35
Vehicles lost 3

Allied ground losses:
435 casualties reported
Guns lost 12
Vehicles lost 8

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Now my western flank will move southwards....pushing him back. at the same time the 16th Div will move into Daily...bringing the strenght to 1200 APs....while my tanks will keepthe pressure on his right flank!...he's going to be scared

Stay tuned...one more turn to come tonight

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RE: Lights of victory - 9/28/2005 1:19:10 AM

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Bath of Blood at Daily.... - 9/28/2005 2:12:29 AM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/04/42

Ok guys...another day not for those with heart problems.

Nothing happened with land troops today...but in the air there were 2 main great actions!

First of all:
At Daily waters. At Dawn almost 200 4 E bombers took off from Alice Spring. nearly 100 fighters engaged. The battle was really really tough and harsh. Results were not as terrible, but i lost 58 planes on the ground and the AF has damage of 45 runaway and 45 service...not good!
However he lost 29 B-17s and 40 Liberators in A2A, against my 22 fighters...so only 22 pilots lost so far...not bad, c'mon!

He'll have to rest his bombers now...and during this time i'll repair Daily AF and replace some squadrons and planes!

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Day Air attack on Daly Waters , at 35,90

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 60
A6M3 Zero x 19
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 37

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 4
B-17E Fortress x 91
LB-30 Liberator x 46
B-24D Liberator x 51

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 21 destroyed, 18 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 5 destroyed, 10 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 10 destroyed, 18 damaged
Ki-46-II Dinah: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 19 destroyed, 53 damaged
LB-30 Liberator: 18 destroyed, 10 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 9 destroyed, 33 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
58 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 12
Runway hits 126

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Moulmein , at 30,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 19

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 88
LB-30 Liberator x 48

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 7 destroyed, 5 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 5 destroyed
Ki-46-II Dinah: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed, 17 damaged
LB-30 Liberator: 9 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
78 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 13
Runway hits 98

Aircraft Attacking:

The other action was at Mouleim. I forgot to move my planes and he cought me unprepared...losses are high but i can handle them for the moment. The daitai of zeros and the sally sentai have been retired and put on training mission at Manila.

He's going to suffer for these losses...experienced bomber crews gone for good!
We'll keep the pressure at Daily up and try to finish the chinese affair asap!

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RE: Bath of Blood at Daily.... - 9/28/2005 2:13:05 AM

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RE: Bath of Blood at Daily.... - 9/28/2005 8:27:26 AM

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Now...some Australian scenarios....

He will probably keep on bombing me. I do not give a dime about that. I'll use every single available plane to defend Daily waters. If needed 100 more zeros(around 70exp) can be moved from Luzon or Singapore to Darwin.
The goal now is to determine the fall of the australian allied front and possibly destroying some units.
I still have a good card in my hand: the 16th Division. He's not aware of its presence, exactly like the unawareness of the 5th div on my western flank has made him push there with only 1 division and one cav bde.
I now have the western flank, which is my weaker flank with 800 APs, advancing southwards; the central front at Daily with 1290 APs and the eastern flank with 1300 APs....not bad.
If my goal is to create a pocket, i will have to turn around his right flank( the eastern one), cause will be the one where his units will have more problems to move back( no road to march on). So the plan: advance with my western flank and engage another fight with the allied retreating units. He will pobably try to reinforce a delaying defensive position S-W of Daily, but to do that he will have to unguard his backguard ( the hex south of Daily). In the main time my tanks will advance on my eastern flank ( 120 miles east of Daily) and move in the hex S-E of daily just 60 miles from the road that leads to Alice. This movement should menace his communication lines and he'll have to move in another unit ( he has the 3rd tank bde as reserve there) to engage my tanks. At this time, my center, supported by the whole bombing team at Darwin, will attack his center.If i manage to defeat him there...well...his whole eastern flank will be sorrounded, while his center will not have the chance to fight back. I'll advance south of Daily and close the gap and the envelope.

Doable?......it all depends on him. If he makes a mistake he can find himself in a terrible situation. If he doesn't , i had gained, nevertheless some more time to delay his advance towards Darwin.

What do you think?
What would you do?

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RE: Bath of Blood at Daily.... - 9/28/2005 3:32:18 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/05/42

A quite day.
His heaviests stayed home today both in Burma and in Australia. It's clear that they're licking their wounds after the harsh air battle of yestrday but i'm sure they'll be back within 5 days.
My air fleet isn't in a good shape. I'm suffering so many op losses in China, probably due to the fatigue levels. The Sallies/Helens pools are almost empty and i need to rest my crews for some days. the 60% of the bombers in China will have a break of 2/3 days now, while the fighters will be patrolling my main bases.
In Northern Oz my bombers hit again his western flank,causing some good damage to his troops. Tomorrow will be the time of his rearguard, then of the enemy's eastern flank and so on unitll i do not understand what he's planning.

Tomorrow we'll attack Nanning, guarded only by 4000 men. There won't be any problem. Then the pocket will be almost closed. One unit is already marching to close the trail that leads towards Kumming.
5 Chinese units are moving from Kumming to Burma. Gotta be ready to hold Lashio in the next future against an assault coming from the east.

The Southern Fleet will be reunited at Singapore. 1 CV,2 CVLs,2 CVEs,2 BBs,4 CAs,4 CLs and some 25 DDs.
The 35th Bde is moving with a Tank regiment towards Sosarbaja from Manila. If i was him i'd be tryin' a landing in Java considering that all my divisions are busy somewhere else.

38 Nates ( 36+12) with crews in their 80s are moving towards Darwin. will be the first squadrons upgraded to Tonies/Tojos in August( as soon as the production starts). Will help to keep the skies above Daily free of enemy bombers.
27 more zeros are arriving from Singapore. 77 exp and a very good leader. will substitute a zero sentai whom experience has dropped to 56 in the last months....

For Patrickl....here's the screenshot of my actual A/C production. Today we brought the virtual production of the Jacks at 75/month and created some more 20 Nakashima engines at Tokyo.

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