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How does this make - 9/30/2005 12:25:33 AM   
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RE: How does this make - 9/30/2005 12:29:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's possible that only one allied unit had attack orders. The rest were on Bombardment.

There's a cheesy function of the game where folks will put engineer units on deliberate attacks and leave all other units on bombardment. They'll usually drop the fort level and cause more casualties to the defender. Even when the odds come up as 0-1.

Without more information, I don't know what happened in your case.

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RE: How does this make - 9/30/2005 12:30:09 AM   
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Second rule of WiTP is never try to make sense of ground combat in WiTP

Just kidding! Honestly, I have yet to make sense of some ground combat results in the game. I stopped trying, and opted for root canal instead..less painful.

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RE: How does this make - 9/30/2005 6:01:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		You can also get this result by launching armored units on deliberate attack with backing from artillery in all the other units. It produces a similar result.

Though I have all sorts of problems with the land system, this particular thing does not bother me much. The odds don't mean an awful lot, its not like the tables and dice games where 6 to 1 meant the defender was cooked and 0 to one meant the attackers all died.

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RE: How does this make - 9/30/2005 7:47:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Might be Japanese SNLF units, in that case almost all 9k of the troops would be combat type troops (they have very few rear area troops) where your 34k might only have a total of 5k of combat troops.

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RE: How does this make - 9/30/2005 8:08:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		I knda look at a result like that like this. 1 Division in Bastogne in December 1944. How many corps were thrown against it? Who won? While numbers help a battle, and can decide it, numbers by no means ensure a quick win.

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RE: How does this make - 9/30/2005 9:12:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well actually, one person told me that the casulty rate can be based on simple mistakes, such as a Marine falling off a piece of rope and breaking his leg, a truck getting a flat tire, a shell exploding by accident, etc, realistic effects of war. It could just be the enemy performed sloppy, especially in the jungle, losing weapons, etc?

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RE: How does this make - 9/30/2005 9:22:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bradley7735

There's a cheesy function of the game where folks will put engineer units on deliberate attacks and leave all other units on bombardment. They'll usually drop the fort level and cause more casualties to the defender. Even when the odds come up as 0-1.

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AFAIK that damned function has been changed with the last patch...isn't it?!

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RE: How does this make - 9/30/2005 7:11:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Tankerace

I knda look at a result like that like this. 1 Division in Bastogne in December 1944. How many corps were thrown against it? Who won? While numbers help a battle, and can decide it, numbers by no means ensure a quick win.


Don't forget either CCA or CCB of the 10th Armored was there as well. One of my dad's friends was in 10th Armored (although not in Bastogne), he said it always got him steamed when people thought only the 101st was there.

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RE: How does this make - 9/30/2005 8:26:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Japanese_Spirit

Well actually, one person told me that the casulty rate can be based on simple mistakes, such as a Marine falling off a piece of rope and breaking his leg, a truck getting a flat tire, a shell exploding by accident, etc, realistic effects of war. It could just be the enemy performed sloppy, especially in the jungle, losing weapons, etc?

"For the want of a horse."

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RE: How does this make - 9/30/2005 9:22:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk


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ORIGINAL: Tankerace

I knda look at a result like that like this. 1 Division in Bastogne in December 1944. How many corps were thrown against it? Who won? While numbers help a battle, and can decide it, numbers by no means ensure a quick win.


Don't forget either CCA or CCB of the 10th Armored was there as well. One of my dad's friends was in 10th Armored (although not in Bastogne), he said it always got him steamed when people thought only the 101st was there.


True. Wasn't there also an attached TD Bn there as well?

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RE: How does this make - 10/1/2005 2:39:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Also remnants of the 4th and 28th divs. Probably some 9th armored as well, and yes, I believe the was a TD bn there and some corps AA units.

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