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RE: Civ IV question - 10/26/2005 6:01:03 PM   
ravinhood


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RE: Civ IV question - 10/26/2005 6:24:09 PM   
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http://www.kalikokottage.com/civ3/sullla/civ4_walk_1.html


Great in-game shots!


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RE: Civ IV question - 10/26/2005 7:55:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks, but is this official abandonware? Don't like the idea of ripping Sid off in any way.

I do have the disc somewhere though - and did pay £30 for it about a hundred years ago so snatching a copy...............

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RE: Civ IV question - 10/26/2005 8:49:42 PM   
Cmdrcain


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ORIGINAL: Marc Schwanebeck

quote:

I would like to see a remake of Colonization - that was fun.


Indeed, I loved that game.



I still play it at times, no problem playing it under XP either..


Its one drawback is the graphics is ancient heh but still great to play....



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RE: Civ IV question - 10/26/2005 9:01:39 PM   
Cmdrcain


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ORIGINAL: watchtower

Wish I still had my Colonization disc - think it my be buried somewhere in my parents atic. Let us know if it runs under XP. If it does I may have to pay my folks a visit and dig it out. I have been looking for an excuse to root out my old Flintloque figures which are buried with all my old win 95 and Dos games - so this might do it.




Colonization runs ok for me under Xp home, I have a 1.8ghz Pentiun 4 with 512MB ram, video is an older 32mb all in wonder radeon 7200 based agp card.


What I did do to run it is:

Run in windows 98/me compat mode
Use in properties also:
EXTENDED (XMS) 2048MB and check the uses HMA
so game has a 2MB XMS memory area like the older
dos/windows 16 bit games used..

If I recall right, Colonization was a DOS game
so it expects 640K ram conv and up to 2MB or so XMS and a HMA memory area.



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RE: Civ IV question - 10/26/2005 10:01:05 PM   
watchtower


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Status: offline 		Thanks Cmdrcain, nice tip.

oooh - like getting a new game.

Matrix - pick the Colonization code up and you might have your first million seller

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RE: Civ IV question - 10/27/2005 2:05:48 AM   
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Will give 1st look when I pull myself away.

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RE: Civ IV question - 10/27/2005 3:24:10 AM   
watchtower


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Colonization runs ok for me under Xp home, I have a 1.8ghz Pentiun 4 with 512MB ram, video is an older 32mb all in wonder radeon 7200 based agp card.




That rig would have made ol Sid gasp with wonder and delight in 1992 or whenever it was. Very Colonization. Like swapping glass beads for gold

I Think I was trying to run it on a 386/15 (maths co proccessor - very posh, very expensive - total rubbish)

4mb Ram ( paid £200 for that!!)

512k graphics card

Think it cost about £2000

- And I am still buying all this stuff every 2 years to keep up!!

I am trying to work out in which year I lost my mind to playing computer games and it might be 1979 with the Sinclair ZX80. 1K ram - cos it had a game called Battle for Normandy, all in 1K!!! - It wasn't very good

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RE: Civ IV question - 10/27/2005 9:33:57 AM   
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RE: Civ IV question - 10/27/2005 4:52:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		For the life of me I can't understand why they went to a nice round world and yet STILL USE SQUARES!!! Haven't they heard of HEXES??? Arrrgh!

I was heavily into Civ III, played the Game of the Month over at http://www.civfanatics.com and would probably think about getting Civ IV if I had any time to play it.

(For the record, Korsun Pocket was the game that broke my Civ III addiction!)

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RE: Civ IV question - 10/27/2005 5:18:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: watchtower

Thanks, but is this official abandonware? Don't like the idea of ripping Sid off in any way.

I do have the disc somewhere though - and did pay £30 for it about a hundred years ago so snatching a copy...............


The reason I suggested underdogs.com is "because" you have the disc somewhere, it's the same reason I use underdogs as well. Merely to get the version of the game that works for Win98/XP and this monster system that I own. I own every game I've downloaded from there. It's iffy in some cases about their legitness. Many games are abandonware/shareware, some are questionable. Just about ALL are out of print and that's an important issue with me since I have no other way to get updates of these games I own except through underdogs. Main thing is they don't hide "underground" like you know what does, they are a very open website and if they were really doing something that developers/publishers thought was wrong/bad after this long in operation I would believe someone somewhere would have had them shutdown. For games that are still in print though they do off a direct link to where one can "buy" them and I think that is a great service.


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RE: Civ IV question - 10/27/2005 5:24:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Pippin

I seem to be running new games fine, even on my boxes which are half a decade old. Most games these days seem to rely 99% on the graphics card power, than anything else. All I do is upgrade the card about three times throught my CPU's life.







That's what most techies will tell you to do also Pippin. Upgrade Video and Ram before upgrading system. Only when you reach a point that the game is just unplayable without more processor speed do you really need to upgrade the system. I tend to stay middle of the road on video cards $100 - $150 tops when I upgrade them. I usually keep my ram maxed out as well, ram is cheap cheap cheap now, especially at Tiger Direct before Christmas, they have some sweet deals on just about everything before Christmas, going to get me a 250mb hard-drive methinks for less than $100.

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RE: Civ IV question - 10/27/2005 9:23:28 PM   
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This game is set to be the best CIV ever, and one of the years best strategy games

All you nay sayers will eat your words. If you dont believe anyone, watch the video reviews on Gamespot.com and IGN.com to see how the game plays. The 9.0 +'s the game is getting more than speaks for itself.

Its gonna be a long night for me

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RE: Civ IV question - 10/28/2005 4:34:36 AM   
ravinhood


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Status: offline 		Hey pvthudson, play a game with 15 players at monarchy difficulty level and then come back and tell us how much fun it is and that it's the best CIV ever. heh You can even use a huge map, make it panthean too.

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RE: Civ IV question - 10/28/2005 7:33:06 AM   
Charles2222


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quote:

ORIGINAL: ravinhood


quote:

ORIGINAL: watchtower

Thanks, but is this official abandonware? Don't like the idea of ripping Sid off in any way.

I do have the disc somewhere though - and did pay £30 for it about a hundred years ago so snatching a copy...............


The reason I suggested underdogs.com is "because" you have the disc somewhere, it's the same reason I use underdogs as well. Merely to get the version of the game that works for Win98/XP and this monster system that I own. I own every game I've downloaded from there. It's iffy in some cases about their legitness. Many games are abandonware/shareware, some are questionable. Just about ALL are out of print and that's an important issue with me since I have no other way to get updates of these games I own except through underdogs. Main thing is they don't hide "underground" like you know what does, they are a very open website and if they were really doing something that developers/publishers thought was wrong/bad after this long in operation I would believe someone somewhere would have had them shutdown. For games that are still in print though they do off a direct link to where one can "buy" them and I think that is a great service.




They're located on foreign soil, that's why they're "in the open" so to speak, because nobody can prosecute them (IIRC it's Singapore).

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RE: Civ IV question - 10/29/2005 2:27:24 AM   
Cmdrcain


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ORIGINAL: watchtower

quote:




Colonization runs ok for me under Xp home, I have a 1.8ghz Pentiun 4 with 512MB ram, video is an older 32mb all in wonder radeon 7200 based agp card.




That rig would have made ol Sid gasp with wonder and delight in 1992 or whenever it was. Very Colonization. Like swapping glass beads for gold

I Think I was trying to run it on a 386/15 (maths co proccessor - very posh, very expensive - total rubbish)

4mb Ram ( paid £200 for that!!)

512k graphics card

Think it cost about £2000

- And I am still buying all this stuff every 2 years to keep up!!

I am trying to work out in which year I lost my mind to playing computer games and it might be 1979 with the Sinclair ZX80. 1K ram - cos it had a game called Battle for Normandy, all in 1K!!! - It wasn't very good



Humm When I first got Colonization I still had my old 385DX-33 with its 640K ram... but I installed and used colonization on what then was a newer setup a Pentium II 233mhz with 170MB ram and a FireGl Pro agp 8MB card..

As to snared by computers I recall I was interested back in early 80's seeing "Nuke war" Hehhh...



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RE: Civ IV question - 10/29/2005 6:12:45 PM   
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