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Son Impressed - 11/26/2005 2:49:09 PM   
Bill Durrant


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Well I downloaded it this morning.

First thing I did was show my 9 year old son the captain of HMS Vendetta - his response -"How cool is that Dad - well done and congratulations on commanding your own ship"

Worth the $45 alone.

Thanks Tankerace






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RE: Son Impressed - 11/26/2005 3:33:49 PM   
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Hmm, I'd better be careful with her then. I'm not sure but i think she is still afloat in my game vs Roger Neilson

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RE: Son Impressed - 11/26/2005 4:10:45 PM   
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Hi String

Long time no speak. I'm watching the AAR very carefully

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RE: Son Impressed - 11/26/2005 4:16:52 PM   
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DD Vendetta, Shell hits 4, on fire


Hey get me back to port quickly

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RE: Son Impressed - 11/26/2005 4:18:01 PM   
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Regret to inform you the Vendetta received four direct hits from a BB near Hong Kong, unlikely its still afloat though we didn't see it sink.

Roger

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RE: Son Impressed - 11/26/2005 4:22:11 PM   
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need ............ glug .................. help .................... glug ............... ple................. glug...glug ....................................................

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RE: Son Impressed - 11/26/2005 4:22:40 PM   
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Regret to inform you the Vendetta received four direct hits from a BB near Hong Kong, unlikely its still afloat though we didn't see it sink.

Roger


Japanese propaganda! .. Most hits weren't from BB, instead they were wimpy shells from DD's. Vendetta is fine, and has been docked in Hong Kong with 36 system damage.

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RE: Son Impressed - 11/26/2005 4:24:44 PM   
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Japanese propaganda! .. Most hits weren't from BB, instead they were wimpy shells from DD's. Vendetta is fine, and has been docked in Hong Kong with 36 system damage.


Hurrah - Captain "Pheonix" Durrant rises from the ashes

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RE: Son Impressed - 11/26/2005 9:39:59 PM   
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I bet u must be enjoying WPO, no Death Star CV's to worry about huh???

WPO , Im tempted to buy it. But have they improved the code for surface engagements?

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RE: Son Impressed - 11/26/2005 9:48:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: general billy

I bet u must be enjoying WPO, no Death Star CV's to worry about huh???

WPO , Im tempted to buy it. But have they improved the code for surface engagements?


I have no idea if they 'improved' it, but so far it's working fine

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RE: Son Impressed - 11/26/2005 10:22:17 PM   
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Propaganda...... no just artistic licence!

Roger


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RE: Son Impressed - 11/26/2005 10:58:19 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: String


quote:

ORIGINAL: general billy

I bet u must be enjoying WPO, no Death Star CV's to worry about huh???

WPO , Im tempted to buy it. But have they improved the code for surface engagements?


I have no idea if they 'improved' it, but so far it's working fine


In WiTP surface naval combat choosing the targets doesnt make sense. The ships fight like in 18th century. They fire on opposite ship, regardless the importance of target.

For example if you have SC TF of 5 CAs and you engage TF composed of 1 BB and 4 DDs, usually one of your CAs attacks BB and rest attack opposite DDs. The result of such *choice of target* usually is that BB escape relatively unharmed and DDs are on the bottom.

Is this somehow improved in WPO?

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RE: Son Impressed - 11/26/2005 11:06:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kkoovvoo


quote:

ORIGINAL: String


quote:

ORIGINAL: general billy

I bet u must be enjoying WPO, no Death Star CV's to worry about huh???

WPO , Im tempted to buy it. But have they improved the code for surface engagements?


I have no idea if they 'improved' it, but so far it's working fine


In WiTP surface naval combat choosing the targets doesnt make sense. The ships fight like in 18th century. They fire on opposite ship, regardless the importance of target.

For example if you have SC TF of 5 CAs and you engage TF composed of 1 BB and 4 DDs, usually one of your CAs attacks BB and rest attack opposite DDs. The result of such *choice of target* usually is that BB escape relatively unharmed and DDs are on the bottom.

Is this somehow improved in WPO?



Actually, especially when considering ww1 era, it's quite logical that each ship picks its own target and starts shooting at it, as a vital part of gunnery was observing the shell splashes, and with several ships firing, one could never be sure which ones were your own ships shells. This is especially true with regard to same class, and similar number confrontations (5bb's vs 6bb's and such)

Now in the example you posted it would be quite logical that only one cruiser engaged the battleship and the rest dealt with the destroyers, as it would be the task of the destroyers to keep the cruisers at bay and keep them busy. Therefore you can imagine that they probably charged the cruisers (a'la taffy 3) or laid smoke etc. Which exposes them to the cruiser fire, whilst the BB would remain relatively unexposed, and thus, only one cruiser would engage it.

So far, I've had plenty of surface engagements in my PBEM vs Roger Neilson, and not once have I seen an unplausible result.

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RE: Son Impressed - 11/26/2005 11:28:01 PM   
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So far, I've had plenty of surface engagements in my PBEM vs Roger Neilson, and not once have I seen an unplausible result.


I would agree, though they have been bloody nasty ones!

Roger


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RE: Son Impressed - 11/27/2005 1:49:33 AM   
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Hi String,
i am sure that in WiTP the ships are simply firing usually on opposite ship regardless how serios thread the ship is to them.

When I have time I sometimes set some battle in Tutorial scenario just to see how it works (WiTP).

For example I tried day surface combat with 3 BBs (2 Hiei class + Nagato) + DDs vs. 2 BBs, CL and some DDs.

The ships were firing against opposite ships. Hieis were firing against battleships (non-penetrating hits until they closed below 15.000 yards) and BB Nagato fired its 16.1 inch guns during entire battle against light cruiser. That really doesnt make sense. Nagato, the most powerful ship of this fleet, sunk light cruiser but both Hieis were hit much more seriously than they could return.

I believe at Surigao strait Fuso and Yamashiro got most attention from six US battleships.

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RE: Son Impressed - 11/28/2005 12:42:57 AM   
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I watched a battle today and the results were this:
Me (Allies)
2 CA (6 shells, 1 shell)
2 CL (4 shells, untouched)
4 DD (4 shells, 8 shells w/1 critical, untouched)

Japanese
12 Cargo Ships
4 DD (2 untouched, 4 shells, 67 shells)

I had 8 ships concentrating all of their firepower on a single destoyer but the Japanese spread out all of their firepower. My more powerful squadron took similar casulties as the Japanese with 1 critically damaged ship vs. 1 sunk, but all but 2 of my ships took some various degree of damage. Plus I could "see" 4 of the cargo ships and all 4 DD but I only fired at 1 enemy.


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RE: Son Impressed - 11/28/2005 1:04:09 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: KingMississippi

I watched a battle today and the results were this:
Me (Allies)
2 CA (6 shells, 1 shell)
2 CL (4 shells, untouched)
4 DD (4 shells, 8 shells w/1 critical, untouched)

Japanese
12 Cargo Ships
4 DD (2 untouched, 4 shells, 67 shells)

I had 8 ships concentrating all of their firepower on a single destoyer but the Japanese spread out all of their firepower. My more powerful squadron took similar casulties as the Japanese with 1 critically damaged ship vs. 1 sunk, but all but 2 of my ships took some various degree of damage. Plus I could "see" 4 of the cargo ships and all 4 DD but I only fired at 1 enemy.




http://www.combinedfleet.com/btl_bad.htm

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