Jutland Scenario: Or how to lose your capital ships!

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KofK -> Jutland Scenario: Or how to lose your capital ships! (12/1/2005 12:12:26 AM)
Playing the Jutland scenario against FDRLincoln. I'm British and he's Japanese. So far, played three turns. I have attempted to form picket lines with my subs so as to yield intelligence upon his moves. I have also attempted to make an aggressive minelaying mission a la Heligo Bight with light forces supported by Hood, Renown and Repulse. This has backfired badly: I have lost the three battlecruisers! Shades of Beatty here, perhaps? [:D] I'm slightly confused as of present: never having played by PBEM before, I don't seem to get any info on the combats that have taken place other than examining my intell screen and looking at the sunk ship list. Help! [&:] I have decided to adopt a more defensive posture in the light of my recent cock-up, and rely on subs to detect the enemy. I also have light forces about to probe around Borneo, with some more heavy forces (the QE class BBs) on the way to Hong Kong.

String -> RE: Jutland Scenario: Or how to lose your capital ships! (12/1/2005 12:14:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KofK Playing the Jutland scenario against FDRLincoln. I'm British and he's Japanese. So far, played three turns. I have attempted to form picket lines with my subs so as to yield intelligence upon his moves. I have also attempted to make an aggressive minelaying mission a la Heligo Bight with light forces supported by Hood, Renown and Repulse. This has backfired badly: I have lost the three battlecruisers! Shades of Beatty here, perhaps? [:D] I'm slightly confused as of present: never having played by PBEM before, I don't seem to get any info on the combats that have taken place other than examining my intell screen and looking at the sunk ship list. Help! [&:] I have decided to adopt a more defensive posture in the light of my recent cock-up, and rely on subs to detect the enemy. I also have light forces about to probe around Borneo, with some more heavy forces (the QE class BBs) on the way to Hong Kong. You need to have your opponent mail you the 001 savegame file. That is the replay generated each turn when the japanese player runs his turn. Every turn he should mail you the savegame and the replay (001 file) You run the replay before the savegame to see the combats etc.

KofK -> RE: Jutland Scenario: Or how to lose your capital ships! (12/1/2005 12:39:41 AM)
Yes, he's mailed me the 001 savegame file. How do I then run the replay before my turn?

String -> RE: Jutland Scenario: Or how to lose your capital ships! (12/1/2005 12:40:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KofK Yes, he's mailed me the 001 savegame file. How do I then run the replay before my turn? you load it like any other savegame

KofK -> RE: Jutland Scenario: Or how to lose your capital ships! (12/1/2005 12:44:39 AM)
Ah, OK. Didn't realise that. Thanks.

KofK -> RE: Jutland Scenario: Or how to lose your capital ships! (12/1/2005 1:27:23 AM)
Right, having now seen the action, I have a better idea of what happened. It seems that there are large Japanese forces at Pescadores, including the Kongo-class BCs - these were the buggers that accounted for my BCs. However, my BC squadron behaved in the finest traditions of the RN, inflicting heavy damage to the enemy's pre-dreadnought battleships, CAs and CLs, before being overwhelmed by superior numbers. The sub K2 also attacked a destroyer and one of the Kongo class ships; no hits on either but it did receive damage from depth charges in return. So, the first encounter has been a muddled bloody affair, but it does reveal at least where some of the Japanese vessels are. I have strong forces in the Hong Kong region, although I am now much more cautious about committing these. My current policy is to sit back slightly and await developments. I'm not sure whether my opponent will attempt to follow up his success, or will be defensive.

KofK -> RE: Jutland Scenario: Or how to lose your capital ships! (12/1/2005 11:07:50 AM)
4 June turn There has been some more action: K2 has managed to torpedo the dreadnought Ise off Pescadores, and has left it damaged and on fire. K2 has, however, again been attacked by escorts and damaged. Off Tatay, K1 has hit the CL Tama, and reports more than one enemy task force in the area. Sub flotillas have been ordered to interdict possible lines of advance of these task forces, whilst a BB squadron consisting of the R-class vessels has been ordered, along with a light cruiser squadron (including Glorious and Courageous) from Brunei. If my subs can damage, or at least report the whereabouts of these task forces, perhaps I can at least force an action. HMS Emperor of India suffered a torpedo attack near Hong Kong; this appears to have caused no damage. The enemy has been located at Hong Kong. Strength is uncertain. Fighter-bomber squadrons have been placed on notification to attack, whilst the two BB squadrons in HK itself are preparing to sortie in response. The BB squadron (TF1003) which includes Emperor of India has been ordered to attempt to cut-off the possible retreat of these enemy forces. Meanwhile, radio transmissions have been detected in the South China Sea in the vicinity of Cam Ranh Bay; a French cruiser squadron has been dispatched to investigate these. Lastly, but by no means least, my ML forcs returning from Pesadores encountered a Japanese destroyer squadron. A fierce action has seen Vimiera hit, Vimy on fire, and Violent torpedoed and left on fire. In return, four Japanese have been hit hard and left on fire. So, an eventful turn, and the combat returns seem a little more in my favour. My subs ae locating his forces, and if I have damaged one of his BBs already, then I'm pleased. Hopefully, I can pull off a couple of more interceptions.

KofK -> RE: Jutland Scenario: Or how to lose your capital ships! (12/1/2005 7:28:22 PM)
This latest turn (4th March, not June as I said earlier!) has been eventful. The submarine K6 successfully torpedoed the destroyer Namikaze off Takao and left it on fire with heavy damage. K6 successfully evaded attack. HMS Vanquisher attacked the Japanese sub No. 20 near Borneo after an unsuccessful attack on HMS Glorious. The ASW attacks were inconclusive. The ML Empire Lynx was lost to torpedo attack, whilst of Camranh Bay the destroyer Wivern was hit twice and left heavily damaged. It is now limping back to Saigon. The Japanese sub No. 59 was hit in ASW attacks. The main development was the carrier battle off Borneo. The Argus group successfully torpedoed the Japanese carrier Hosho, and avoided damage itself thanks to the fighter CAP. Clearly, this is the future of naval warfare! [8D] The Hosho then attacked the R-class BBs, but failed to obtain any hits. The Jap CV force is now damaged, and close to three surface warfare groups of my own: the R-class; the Splendid Cat BCs acting as a surface group accompanying the Argus task force, and the light cruiser squadron that includes Courageous and Glorious. In light of this engagement, I am striving to intercept and destroy the enemy CV force with my surface vessels, and will attempt further strikes on them from Argus. Subs are also being placed to cover avenues of retreat. Near Hong Kong, I have adopted a defensive posture. Enemy subs have been spotted and ASW task forces assigned to deal with them.

KofK -> RE: Jutland Scenario: Or how to lose your capital ships! (12/1/2005 11:41:35 PM)
Last turn saw a number of indecisive submarine and ASW attacks by both sides. My cordon of subs outside of Hong Kong has, along with aerial recon, identified what appears to be a major enemy fleet movement toward Hong Kong: no doubt to try to destroy my forces there. So, it looks like things are about to get interesting and bloody soon! [:D]

Alikchi2 -> RE: Jutland Scenario: Or how to lose your capital ships! (12/2/2005 12:15:54 AM)
Sounds like you're catching on fast! Good luck to you [:D]

KofK -> RE: Jutland Scenario: Or how to lose your capital ships! (12/2/2005 12:22:27 AM)
Thanks! I'm rather hoping for a better performance than my first disastrous encounter. [:)]

KofK -> RE: Jutland Scenario: Or how to lose your capital ships! (12/2/2005 12:24:02 AM)
I am however rather disappointed that I lost contact with his CV task force. I was realy hoping to put that on the seabead. [:@]

Alikchi2 -> RE: Jutland Scenario: Or how to lose your capital ships! (12/2/2005 12:30:23 AM)
Ah well, carriers are useless toys anyways. [;)] What forces do you have at Hong Kong?

KofK -> RE: Jutland Scenario: Or how to lose your capital ships! (12/2/2005 12:40:08 AM)
Reasonably strong forces: three BB squadrons, and some light forces (MLs and a multitude of destroyers). There are also the reasonably strong coastal defences, which, although probably not sufficient to seriously damage his BBs, could probably cause a CA, CL or a DD to have a very bad day. [;)] The British player suffers at the beginning of this scenario from having his capital ships widely spread between HK, Singapore, and Saigon, whilst it seems like the Japanese player is more concentrated around Formosa (that's my impression from this game and having played the AI in this scenario; however I haven't played as the Japanese to verify this belief).

KofK -> RE: Jutland Scenario: Or how to lose your capital ships! (12/2/2005 1:41:39 AM)
What a bloody diastrous turn. Major action off Hong Kong, shed loads of destroyers on both sides lost. Along with about 8 bloody BBs and 2 of my BCs. And the rest are absolutely knackered, i.e. barely afloat. I have no real fleet at all at Hong Kong now. And he only lost 1 BB!!! What I don't undestand is that I ordered my BBs to rendezvous with reinforcements west of Hong Kong - yet they all bailed merrily into action at Hong Kong itself and got walloped! I'm still learning, I suppose..... [:@] Well, I can only hope that many of the Jaanese vessels won't last long. Maybe my subs can pick off some stragglers. I do not really have enough forces to actually attempt to interdict him with my surface forces. This game will be hard to win now: I'm almost 1000 points behind, and have only about 10 non-damaged BBs - 2 of which are at HK.

KofK -> RE: Jutland Scenario: Or how to lose your capital ships! (12/2/2005 8:04:18 PM)
There has been more sub action: this has cost the Japanese one battleship, whilst I have lost Orion and Malaya. Hong Kong now has only a small BB force remaining. However, I still have the Splendid Cats and the R-class BBs in service, and in conjunction with the remaining HK forces, I can perhaps still win: expecially as his fleet must also be badly damaged from the Hong Kong battles. I am hoping to weaken his forces with submarines in order to allow me to force an action on my terms. To this end, I am aggressively placing subs by his fleet anchorages in the hopes of hitting some of the stragglers as they return to port.

KofK -> RE: Jutland Scenario: Or how to lose your capital ships! (12/2/2005 9:32:17 PM)
A quiet turn: mainly sub action, with the monitor Terror being torpedoed off Brunei. British light cruisers bombarded Tatay, whilst the badly damaged BBs Iron Duke and Benbow sank at Hong Kong. My objective is to maintain a strong fleet in being: my opponent cannot risk amphibious assaults with my fleet still at large, given the damage he must have sustained.

KofK -> RE: Jutland Scenario: Or how to lose your capital ships! (12/3/2005 1:31:21 AM)
My subs seriously damaged a Japanese cargo ship near Tatay, and sruiser task forces are reported there. Meanwile, off the south west of Formosa, my subs damaged a Jap cruiser. Sub reports indicate Jap forces moving SW from Formosa. So it looks like there's something afoot: perhaps an attempt at a landing at Borneo? I have adjusted my dispostions accordingly. The Japanese BB Tosa sank; a good result, but the cause of sinking is, as yet, unclear. That is now three Japanese BBs lost.

Hanal -> RE: Jutland Scenario: Or how to lose your capital ships! (12/3/2005 2:24:20 AM)
I have a few things keeping me busy at the moment but I think this will be a game for me....looking forward the tacklng WPO in the future......[:)]

KofK -> RE: Jutland Scenario: Or how to lose your capital ships! (12/3/2005 2:26:08 AM)
It's great fun, even if I am getting hammered! Unfortunately real life gets in the way![:(][:D]

KofK -> RE: Jutland Scenario: Or how to lose your capital ships! (12/4/2005 9:25:15 PM)
My light surface forces from Hong Kong successfully wiped out a convoy of supply ships in the last turn. Argus' air group put in an air attack on a Japanese BC in the vicinity of Taytay; only its escorting DD was damaged, whilst an unsuccessful sub attack was also prosecuted in the vicinity on another Jap BB. Subs have successfully hit a Jap CL and a tanker in the area. These movements are suggestive of a descent on Borneo, which I will accordingly respond to. I am hoping that Argus may be able to get a few more attacks in.

KofK -> RE: Jutland Scenario: Or how to lose your capital ships! (12/5/2005 12:04:03 AM)
Japanese light forces probed Hong Kong this turn: no doubt to locate my capital ships. They were eliminated, and a sub in the HK region was destroyed. My subs indicate that his forces continue to move to Borneo - including his BBs. My subs have launched inconclusive attacks on these, whilst light cruisers (including Courageous and Glorious) have fought an indecisive action with a decoy(?) force of cruisers. His line of attack seems to be to keep to the east of the island with Taytay on it, then come through the straits between that island and Borneo to his LZ.

KofK -> RE: Jutland Scenario: Or how to lose your capital ships! (12/5/2005 4:14:50 PM)
As predicted, his amphibious forces have arrived off Brunei, although the coast defence forces have mauled his troop transports. Two have been sunk and he has lost around 1000 troops and 20 guns before even getting ashore. He has, consequently moved the trasnports back out to sea. I expect he will use the dreadnought covering force to dispatch the coastal defence forces and soften up the defenders. I am hoping my subs can help out in this!

KofK -> RE: Jutland Scenario: Or how to lose your capital ships! (12/5/2005 11:13:51 PM)
It appears that I'm successfully sucking the enemy into a meatgrinder in Borneo. His land forces have bogged down against the Brunei garrison, whilst a light cruiser squadron under Glorious has mauled his remaining dreadnought BBs and BCs. Carrier airstrikes and sub attacks have been unsuccessful thus far on these forces, but I hope that if these ships have sustained damage it may make them more easy pickings.

KofK -> RE: Jutland Scenario: Or how to lose your capital ships! (12/8/2005 11:46:02 PM)
Well, the enemy are bogged down in Borneo and are attempting to reinforce it; they are unaware that I have reinforced with an Indian Brigade. However, Japanese forces have landed on Hong Kong, around 12000 men in all. Their landing has suffered heavy losses, with several transports and destroyers being sunk by coastal artillery, whilst losing 1000 men in the process. My fleet is racing back from the South China Sea to try to intercept his forces.

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