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CBoehm -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (6/5/2006 8:55:54 PM)

29, Aarhus, Denmark

I have been playing WIF since I was 16 or so ...about once per week, sometimes twice sometimes every two weeks ...cant count how many games I have played (we usually take about 2/3 of a year per game or so, unless it ends early) although I can say that I have only ever actually reached j/a 45 twice!

Besides WIF I have played quite a bit of Empires in Arms, and a bunch of roleplaying campaigns/systems mostly fantasy or science fiction though ...with just a sprinkling of horror and super heroes ...

After having finished my Masters in Finance I now work in a bank ...and live with my slovak girlfriend (who doesnt mind me playing WIF as long as I dont strategic bomb Bratislava).

Oh and back to WIF for a moment!
Favorite MPs: CW & Germany in that order due to their ability to "do stuff" throughout the whole game ...personally I think CW is the most difficult MP to play "optimal" due to them having to do everything everywhere with highly limited resources...
Characteristics as a WIF-player: Tactically very defensive, but very aggressive strategically -I usually ALWAYS have a plan within a plan for the whole "side" (we never play with individual victory conditions) in order to put myself in a position to gain overwhelming superiority against ONE strategic front/opponent at a time.



aussem -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (6/22/2006 5:21:27 AM)

48
Sydney, Australia
Wargaming since mid 1970's, maily AH and SPI games bought from a great bookshop in the city.
Previously just played Chess (not ranked but did manage to win a couple of lucky games against somebody who was) and cards.
Used to play Classic Wif every week in the 80's. More recently (2002 - 2003) have played Version 5 with PiF and SiF.
Mainly just playing 7 Ages these days while waiting for MWIF. Also, I do like the look and feel of WITP, just need to find some time to have a game against somebody.
Prefer WeGo/IgoUGo strategy to RTS or FPS.
Generally prefer f2f gaming than computer games, but time and space issues makes that desire somewhat impractical. Having said that, I loved ASL and Steel Panthers is so good so that I don't feel the need to break out the boards anymore, and I suspect that if MWIF can live up to expectations it will similarly push WIF into the cupboards forever.



aussem -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (6/22/2006 5:23:25 AM)

false start



Romulus68 -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (8/2/2006 8:16:40 PM)

West Virginia, USA.

Been playing WiF for about 13 years, though we haven't played in about 2+ years.  We've had a number of players relocate and families start growing.

I do have the honor of winning a WifCon in Michigan (USA).  I was France/Russia and we defeated the Axis players by 1941.  The German player was a bit experienced and I crushed his attacks in Europe (even with o-chits).  With those defeats the commonwealth/france attacked italy and conquered them right off.  It just went from bad to worse for the Axis from there.



Shannon V. OKeets -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (8/3/2006 12:05:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Romulus68
West Virginia, USA.

Been playing WiF for about 13 years, though we haven't played in about 2+ years.  We've had a number of players relocate and families start growing.

I do have the honor of winning a WifCon in Michigan (USA).  I was France/Russia and we defeated the Axis players by 1941.  The German player was a bit experienced and I crushed his attacks in Europe (even with o-chits).  With those defeats the commonwealth/france attacked italy and conquered them right off.  It just went from bad to worse for the Axis from there.


Welcome.

If you haven't done so already, you might want to read the thread Directory for MWIF forum - it is in the top section of the World in Flames forum.



Petiloup -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (8/3/2006 5:48:19 AM)


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ORIGINAL: morkin

Raising my kids (aged 4 and 8) properly - now we are playing Stratego and Chess. In 5 years I expect to start first board WiF. [:)]


Singapore, Belgian, 42 years.

Have a daughter and looking for a boy next... now I have one more good reason to look forward to it but still 15 years to wait for a WIF partner... maybe by this time the computer game would be ready [:D]

First game Smolensk from SPI and took quite a beating after 4 turns only. 20 years later I can manage almost 10 turns [8D]

Playing WIF is a total pleasure, hoping CWIF will be as good as the original at least between human player. Wonder how any AI could play such a game.



Shannon V. OKeets -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (8/3/2006 7:15:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Polonthi

Singapore, Belgian, 42 years.

Have a daughter and looking for a boy next... now I have one more good reason to look forward to it but still 15 years to wait for a WIF partner... maybe by this time the computer game would be ready [:D]

First game Smolensk from SPI and took quite a beating after 4 turns only. 20 years later I can manage almost 10 turns [8D]

Playing WIF is a total pleasure, hoping CWIF will be as good as the original at least between human player. Wonder how any AI could play such a game.


Welcome.

Just for clarity, we have been using the acronym CWIF to refer to the previous beta version (circa 1996 - 2003) and MWIF for the Matrix Games computer version of WIF (I've officially been working on it for 13 months now).



Bossy573 -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (8/4/2006 1:42:12 AM)

39 years old from Buffalo, NY.

No experience with WIF whatsoever. I love what I see here and I will buy the game the second it is released, learn it, and play it until my hard drive melts. [8D]



Shannon V. OKeets -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (8/4/2006 2:47:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Bossy573

39 years old from Buffalo, NY.

No experience with WIF whatsoever. I love what I see here and I will buy the game the second it is released, learn it, and play it until my hard drive melts. [8D]


What with the high temperatures these days, the melting could occur very soon.

Speaking of Buffalo, I went to the Univ. of Rochester where I learned more about winter than I ever wanted to know. I did acquire a wife there though - and she learned the same lesson. So convincing her to move to Hawaii took zero time.



Bossy573 -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (8/4/2006 4:02:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
Speaking of Buffalo, I went to the Univ. of Rochester where I learned more about winter than I ever wanted to know. I did acquire a wife there though - and she learned the same lesson. So convincing her to move to Hawaii took zero time.


[:D]

I don't remember if it was 3 or 4 years ago but we had 7 feet of snow in 3 days. Shovelling your roof in minus 20 wind chill is something that stays with you a loooooong time.

We'll be moving to North Carolina within the next 6 months. I've seen enough winters to last me a lifetime.



delatbabel -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (8/17/2006 1:06:59 PM)

42.
Sydney, Australia
Played WiF about 3 or 4 times. Nobody local to play with at the moment.

So greyshaft if you're after a Sydney opponent on a semi-casual basis get in touch via PM or whatever.




ravinhood -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (8/19/2006 1:21:36 AM)

""Crush all the existing AI opponents for computer war games.""

At what difficulty? ;) And have you crushed "War of the Lance" on its highest difficulty? And perhaps you would like my mod of "Spartan" ai adjustments. I don't think you would be doing any crushing. ;) I even made one for RTW that will be very hard to crush, in fact you will be screaming for your citizens to have more babies. lol



Shannon V. OKeets -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (8/19/2006 3:05:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ravinhood
""Crush all the existing AI opponents for computer war games.""
At what difficulty? ;) And have you crushed "War of the Lance" on its highest difficulty? And perhaps you would like my mod of "Spartan" ai adjustments. I don't think you would be doing any crushing. ;) I even made one for RTW that will be very hard to crush, in fact you will be screaming for your citizens to have more babies. lol


Admittedly I have not purchased every computer war game published. I have my likes and dislikes for time periods and organization levels. Squad level games hold no interest for me.

And it is trivial to modify AI opponents so they have thousands of troops to fight the two you are given. I lost interest in those 'conflicts' when I became bored with Space Invaders (though that took quite a while and a lot of quarters).

But my statement is true to its intent: I have not encountered an AI opponent that I thought was especially strong. Most have glaring weaknesses. I hope to do better for MWIF.



c92nichj -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (8/19/2006 5:30:19 AM)

Some would say that Chess is the first war game and I do think that there are some pretty competent chess AI's.
I certainly lose against all of them.



Shannon V. OKeets -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (8/19/2006 5:57:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: c92nichj
Some would say that Chess is the first war game and I do think that there are some pretty competent chess AI's.
I certainly lose against all of them.


I haven't played the tournament level chess computers, but the ones available commercially I guess are rated under 1800 (US Chess Federation).



ravinhood -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (8/19/2006 7:29:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

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ORIGINAL: ravinhood
""Crush all the existing AI opponents for computer war games.""
At what difficulty? ;) And have you crushed "War of the Lance" on its highest difficulty? And perhaps you would like my mod of "Spartan" ai adjustments. I don't think you would be doing any crushing. ;) I even made one for RTW that will be very hard to crush, in fact you will be screaming for your citizens to have more babies. lol


Admittedly I have not purchased every computer war game published. I have my likes and dislikes for time periods and organization levels. Squad level games hold no interest for me.

And it is trivial to modify AI opponents so they have thousands of troops to fight the two you are given. I lost interest in those 'conflicts' when I became bored with Space Invaders (though that took quite a while and a lot of quarters).

But my statement is true to its intent: I have not encountered an AI opponent that I thought was especially strong. Most have glaring weaknesses. I hope to do better for MWIF.


Oh ok I'll let you get by on that then. More information was given this time around than in your first statement. ;) BTW I tossed all my quarters into "Missle Command", hated Space Invaders lol. And I certainly hope you can live up to producing a quality AI for such a HUGE type of game. That's a lot to accomplish I think and I agree for this type of game all have fallen short that have tried. I think we had this conversation before though and I don't want to hijack your thread....but, one last thing "predictability" in the AI is it's worst problem to me. Looking forward to trying your game out though. (cept most think I don't buy anything brand new) ;)



Shannon V. OKeets -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (8/19/2006 11:06:17 AM)

Sadly I spent even more money on Missile Command than Space Invaders. It was the improved graphics and sophisticated variations at advanced levels that sucked me in.[:D][:(][:D]



delatbabel -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (8/19/2006 2:36:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

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ORIGINAL: c92nichj
Some would say that Chess is the first war game and I do think that there are some pretty competent chess AI's.
I certainly lose against all of them.


I haven't played the tournament level chess computers, but the ones available commercially I guess are rated under 1800 (US Chess Federation).


1800, or even 1600, rates as "pretty competent". Enough to knock over your average back yard chess player.

I'm around 1700 myself, and I've been playing chess for some time. I'm considered a "chess whiz" by my
family and friends but of course I don't rate in the serious tournaments.



Neilster -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (8/19/2006 3:31:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: delatbabel

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

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ORIGINAL: c92nichj
Some would say that Chess is the first war game and I do think that there are some pretty competent chess AI's.
I certainly lose against all of them.


I haven't played the tournament level chess computers, but the ones available commercially I guess are rated under 1800 (US Chess Federation).


1800, or even 1600, rates as "pretty competent". Enough to knock over your average back yard chess player.

I'm around 1700 myself, and I've been playing chess for some time. I'm considered a "chess whiz" by my
family and friends but of course I don't rate in the serious tournaments.



Steve is a real chess gun. From memory he had a rating of about 2300 when in form. Aren't there 2 main rating systems though? In general I thought in Australia we tend to use the one where the scores are lower for the same ability.

I think you can get some very strong computers now, like the bad boy pictured below. I remember when some family friends bought one of the early chess computers in the late 70s. As a kid, I thought it was an object of wonder. It must have been very expensive.

Cheers, Neilster



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Shannon V. OKeets -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (8/19/2006 9:33:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Neilster
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ORIGINAL: delatbabel

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

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ORIGINAL: c92nichj
Some would say that Chess is the first war game and I do think that there are some pretty competent chess AI's.
I certainly lose against all of them.


I haven't played the tournament level chess computers, but the ones available commercially I guess are rated under 1800 (US Chess Federation).


1800, or even 1600, rates as "pretty competent". Enough to knock over your average back yard chess player.

I'm around 1700 myself, and I've been playing chess for some time. I'm considered a "chess whiz" by my
family and friends but of course I don't rate in the serious tournaments.



Steve is a real chess gun. From memory he had a rating of about 2300 when in form. Aren't there 2 main rating systems though? In general I thought in Australia we tend to use the one where the scores are lower for the same ability.

I think you can get some very strong computers now, like the bad boy pictured below. I remember when some family friends bought one of the early chess computers in the late 70s. As a kid, I thought it was an object of wonder. It must have been very expensive.

Cheers, Neilster



[image]local://upfiles/10515/8C898AA6135244E4972F847202A9EB75.jpg[/image]

I wish. The best I achieved was 2050. It required a ton of work though.



beachbum -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (8/21/2006 10:36:23 AM)

I'm 33 years old and live in Norway.
I am a frontend programmer and partner in a design company (www.bleed.com)
Started playing WIF 8 years ago
I have played the CWIF a lot and I am a beta tester for MWIF.



jesperpehrson -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (10/22/2006 8:22:49 PM)

I am 27 years old and live outside Göteborg in Sweden with my girlfriend. I study to become a history and social studies teacher and I only have 6 months to go!

I played WIF the first time around 92-94 (cannot remember. I think it was 2nd edition anyway with the old map. I rememeber being horrified with the FE map at a first glance. Then of course it was way better.

I am quite hooked with Matrixgames "the operational art of war III" and almost only play these types of games. FPS bores me (even if I had a short period of BF2) and so does RTS. My other computervice has been NWN but I have hardly played for the last two years. I was at a community called ALFA (www.alandfaraway.org) and as far as NWN goes it is great.




Greyshaft -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (10/22/2006 10:49:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: aussem
48
Sydney, Australia
Wargaming since mid 1970's, maily AH and SPI games bought from a great bookshop in the city.

ah yes... Napoleon's Bookstore... them were the days...
Don't suppose you went to Macquarie University?


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ORIGINAL: delatbabel
So greyshaft if you're after a Sydney opponent on a semi-casual basis get in touch via PM or whatever.

Number one son takes up all available time but come the release of MWiF I'll be getting a few PBM games going.

Perhaps we can organise a local MWiF get-together over some cleansing ales when the game is released?



Snydly -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (10/25/2006 11:15:21 PM)

I am looking forward to this game alot ... I haven't set up a game of WiF in over 10 years due to play online Computer games like UO, DAoC and currently WoW. Prior to that though I have a long history in Board games.

Some of my old favorites included Squad Leader plus additions, Flat Top, Waterloo, plus a few others ... but my favorite was WiF. I played this game from version 4.0 which for new people was hard to digest ... but as the game moved to version 5.0 and we added Planes in Flames ... 2 friends and I kept a perpetual full campaign going for years. We tried different things to each other and as usual blamed the dice if we lost or great stragegy if we won. This is IMO the best unstructured WWII strategy game, and I look forward to playing many a game with you all over time.

I live in Vancouver, BC Canada, I am pushing 40 and I was #100 on the list in that old global ranking system ... which has long past us.



YohanTM2 -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (10/26/2006 3:17:43 AM)

Welcome from Toronto Snydly...perhaps an All-Canadian game when it launches? Lots of us here...



Arron69 -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (10/31/2006 9:17:50 PM)

Im from a small island, called bornholm, in the baltic sea. Im 32 years of age and single(so can play MWIF all the time when it comes out,[:D]. I am a groupleader on a particlefilter fatory. In my spare time i play wargames or computer games, play a little fottie.

My WIF experiance comes from 3 years of playing with my youthfull mates when i was 19-22, we played 3 full campaigns. Then i moved to stockholm and played another campaign there. As of now i only play the CWIF beta with my newbie friend(Hi rene) and cant wait to MWIF comes out with a AI and NETPLAY abiliety.

Well need to write more on the Royal Navy.

Cya
Andi



Neilster -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (11/1/2006 4:06:51 AM)

Hey Andi. This is a real long shot but a girl from Bornholm was an exchange student at my school in Devonport, Tasmania. She would be around 32 and her name was/is Ann Marie Sigmunssen-Jensen (sorry about the spelling). Lovely girl, cute, blonde, bubbly, with big...err...assets [:'(].

I just thought you might know her. She was very popular. [;)]

Cheers, Neilster


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ORIGINAL: Graf Zeppelin

Im from a small island, called bornholm, in the baltic sea. Im 32 years of age and single(so can play MWIF all the time when it comes out,[:D]. I am a groupleader on a particlefilter fatory. In my spare time i play wargames or computer games, play a little fottie.

My WIF experiance comes from 3 years of playing with my youthfull mates when i was 19-22, we played 3 full campaigns. Then i moved to stockholm and played another campaign there. As of now i only play the CWIF beta with my newbie friend(Hi rene) and cant wait to MWIF comes out with a AI and NETPLAY abiliety.

Well need to write more on the Royal Navy.

Cya
Andi




Snydly -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (11/1/2006 5:35:07 AM)

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Welcome from Toronto Snydly...perhaps an All-Canadian game when it launches? Lots of us here...


Sounds Good.

I will probably have 3 games going at one time ;-) ... I like the game that much.



Arron69 -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (11/1/2006 5:52:49 PM)

Hey Neilster.

I know who she is, but not personally. And yes i like her BIG... blue eyes too[X(]...lol

The island of bornholm have only 43000 inhabitants. But still, good odds...

Regards
Andi



delatbabel -> RE: How about a Roll Call ? (11/1/2006 6:50:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Greyshaft

quote:

ORIGINAL: delatbabel
So greyshaft if you're after a Sydney opponent on a semi-casual basis get in touch via PM or whatever.

Number one son takes up all available time but come the release of MWiF I'll be getting a few PBM games going.

Perhaps we can organise a local MWiF get-together over some cleansing ales when the game is released?


We're about to start a FTF WiF 5/e game at my office in Paddington. You and any other MWIF players are welcome to drop by for a cold one or two when the game is released, perhaps the WiF grognards there can celebrate along with us.



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