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Shaggyra -> Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (3/21/2006 9:57:25 AM)
Public Football League US East Boston Florida New York Washington US West Arizona Carolina Chicago Oklahoma Canada Calgary Montreal Toronto Vancouver Schedules Arizona Wranglers Week 1 vs Florida Pirates Week 2 vs Montreal Thunder Week 3 at Calgary Bandits Week 4 vs Calgary Bandits Week 5 vs Carolina Lightning Week 6 vs Toronto Blizzard Week 7 at Toronto Blizzard Week 8 at Vancouver Force Week 9 at Vancouver Force Week 10 vs Washington Federals Week 11 vs Carolina Lightning Week 12 vs Montreal Thunder Home Games: 8 Div games: 2 Boston Breakers Week 1 at Calgary Bandits Week 2 vs Florida Pirates Week 3 vs Florida Pirates Week 4 at Chicago Wind Week 5 at Vancouver Force Week 6 at Chicago Wind Week 7 vs Montreal Thunder Week 8 at Chicago Wind Week 9 at Montreal Thunder Week 10 at Vancouver Force Week 11 at Toronto Blizzard Week 12 at Oklahoma Outlaws Home Games: 3 Div games: 2 Calgary Bandits Week 1 vs Boston Breakers Week 2 at Chicago Wind Week 3 vs Arizona Wranglers Week 4 at Arizona Wranglers Week 5 at Florida Pirates Week 6 vs Carolina Lightning Week 7 at Vancouver Force Week 8 vs Carolina Lightning Week 9 at Washington Federals Week 10 at Florida Pirates Week 11 at Vancouver Force Week 12 vs Washington Federals Home Games: 5 Div games: 2 Carolina Lightning Week 1 vs Chicago Wind Week 2 vs Washington Federals Week 3 at Chicago Wind Week 4 vs Oklahoma Outlaws Week 5 at Arizona Wranglers Week 6 at Calgary Bandits Week 7 at Oklahoma Outlaws Week 8 at Calgary Bandits Week 9 vs Toronto Blizzard Week 10 at Oklahoma Outlaws Week 11 at Arizona Wranglers Week 12 vs Toronto Blizzard Home games: 5 Div games: 7 Chicago Wind Week 1 at Carolina Lightning Week 2 vs Calgary Bandits Week 3 vs Carolina Lightning Week 4 vs Boston Breakers Week 5 at Washington Federals Week 6 vs Boston Breakers Week 7 vs Florida Pirates Week 8 vs Boston Breakers Week 9 vs Oklahoma Outlaws Week 10 vs New York Blazers Week 11 vs Oklahoma Outlaws Week 12 vs Florida Pirates Home games: 10 Div games:4 Florida Pirates Week 1 at Arizona Wranglers Week 2 at Boston Breakers Week 3 at Boston Breakers Week 4 vs Toronto Blizzard Week 5 vs Calgary Bandits Week 6 at Montreal Thunder Week 7 at Chicago Wind Week 8 at Oklahoma Outlaws Week 9 vs New York Blazers Week 10 vs Calgary Bandits Week 11 vs New York Blazers Week 12 at Chicago Wind Home Games: 5 Div games: 4 Montreal Thunder Week 1 at Washington Federals Week 2 at Arizona Wranglers Week 3 at Oklahoma Outlaws Week 4 at New York Blazers Week 5 at Oklahoma Outlaws Week 6 vs Florida Pirates Week 7 at Boston Breakers Week 8 vs New York Blazers Week 9 vs Boston Breakers Week 10 vs Toronto Blizzard Week 11 vs Washington Federals Week 12 at Arizona Wranglers Home Games: 5 Div games: 1 New York Blazers Week 1 vs Vancouver Force Week 2 at Oklahoma Outlaws Week 3 at Toronto Blizzard Week 4 vs Montreal Thunder Week 5 vs Toronto Blizzard Week 6 vs Oklahoma Outlaws Week 7 vs Washington Federals Week 8 at Montreal Thunder Week 9 at Florida Pirates Week 10 at Chicago Wind Week 11 at Florida Pirates Week 12 at Vancouver Force Home Games: 5 Div games: 3 Oklahoma Outlaws Week 1 at Toronto Blizzard Week 2 vs New York Blazers Week 3 vs Montreal Thunder Week 4 at Carolina Lightning Week 5 vs Montreal Thunder Week 6 at New York Blazers Week 7 vs Carolina Lightning Week 8 vs Florida Pirates Week 9 at Chicago Wind Week 10 vs Carolina Lightning Week 11 at Chicago Wind Week 12 vs Boston Breakers Home Games: 7 Div games: 5 Toronto Blizzard Week 1 vs Oklahoma Outlaws Week 2 vs Vancouver Force Week 3 vs New York Blazers Week 4 at Florida Pirates Week 5 at New York Blazers Week 6 at Arizona Wranglers Week 7 vs Arizona Wranglers Week 8 at Washington Federals Week 9 at Carolina Lightning Week 10 at Montreal Thunder Week 11 vs Boston Breakers Week 12 at Carolina Lightning Home Games: 5 Div games: 2 Vancouver Force Week 1 at New York Blazers Week 2 at Toronto Blizzard Week 3 at Washington Federals Week 4 at Washington Federals Week 5 vs Boston Breakers Week 6 vs Washington Federals Week 7 vs Calgary Bandits Week 8 vs Arizona Wranglers Week 9 vs Arizona Wranglers Week 10 vs Boston Breakers Week 11 vs Calgary Bandits Week 12 vs New York Blazers Home Games: 8 Div games: 3 Washington Federals Week 1 vs Montreal Thunder Week 2 at Carolina Lightning Week 3 vs Vancouver Force Week 4 vs Vancouver Force Week 5 vs Chicago Wind Week 6 at Vancouver Force Week 7 at New York Blazers Week 8 vs Toronto Blizzard Week 9 vs Calgary Bandits Week 10 at Arizona Wranglers Week 11 at Montreal Thunder Week 12 at Calgary Bandits Home Games: 6 Div games: 1 Just for information.

Marauders -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (3/21/2006 10:38:14 AM)
That's not right. [&:]

Magnum357 -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (3/21/2006 10:59:41 AM)
What do you mean Marauders? Shaggy, are you complaining that its not producing a balanced schedule?

Antmeister71 -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (3/21/2006 11:58:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Magnum357 What do you mean Marauders? Shaggy, are you complaining that its not producing a balanced schedule? Well the problem is that a team should be playing half their games at home. That doesn't seem to be the case. On top of that, you should at least play each divisional opponent at least once (it should probably be twice with the longer schedule in this case). Scheduling is something that is fundamental to any football game.

22sec -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (3/21/2006 2:58:17 PM)
Has anyone tried editing the schedules?

Shaggyra -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (3/21/2006 3:45:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Magnum357 What do you mean Marauders? Shaggy, are you complaining that its not producing a balanced schedule? Exactly. Boston has 3 home games and 9 away. Chicago has 10 home games and 2 away. Divisional games are a mess. Montreal only plays 1. Not to mention things like Vancouver playing Washington 3 out of 4 weeks in a row. So, yeah, it's not balanced.

Magnum357 -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (3/22/2006 1:32:59 AM)
Ok, I can understand what you mean by that. Maybe the reason why David didn't make the game have balanced schedules is because with such vast differences in league structures that it would be very difficult for him to make balanced schedules. And with leagues with Odd number of teams, its even harder to get perfectly balanced schedules. He probably figured that 3rd party developers could easily handle the Scheduling duties and let the users schedule there own games. 21SEC, I'm actually working on a schedule utility for the game, but its taking me some time too make it work right.

22sec -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (3/23/2006 6:14:54 AM)
Looking forward to see what you come up with Magnum

mbMike -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (3/23/2006 5:31:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Shaggyra quote: ORIGINAL: Magnum357 What do you mean Marauders? Shaggy, are you complaining that its not producing a balanced schedule? Exactly. Boston has 3 home games and 9 away. Chicago has 10 home games and 2 away. Divisional games are a mess. Montreal only plays 1. Not to mention things like Vancouver playing Washington 3 out of 4 weeks in a row. So, yeah, it's not balanced. Dude, Can't you just be happy for one second? Who cares if the schedule is not balanced? It'll get fixed some other day. Just play the game and stop moaning so much.

Shaggyra -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (3/24/2006 3:04:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mbMike Dude, Can't you just be happy for one second? Who cares if the schedule is not balanced? It'll get fixed some other day. Just play the game and stop moaning so much. Excuse me? And just what are you doing to help things? This is a problem with the game. I'm pointing it out here. Just like we are supposed to do. Grow up or kiss my ......................................

Tbird -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (3/24/2006 3:30:01 AM)
I don't even think he owns the game

Eyeman79 -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (3/24/2006 3:50:06 AM)
I'm having the same problem with the 1959 NFL league. My Steelers are scheduled to play the Packers three times in a 14 game season, all on the road. While this would have been nice last season its a bit frustrating. I tried generating new scheldules but this imbalance showed up every time. This is obviously an issue that needs attention. I am suprised that this is the first time its been reported.

Magnum357 -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (3/24/2006 1:20:44 PM)
Didn't the NFL only play a 12 game season during 1959? I may be wrong on that, would need too look that up. As I said before, I'm working on a Utility as we speak to edit schedules, but its taking me a little longer then I thought. Also, at the rate things are going, my utility will only be useful with Custom made leagues because it seems the Stock League Databases are designed slightly differently then the Custom ones.

Rottweiler69 -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (4/2/2006 7:27:40 PM)
I completed a custom 40 team league but the scheduling makes it unplayable at this point. Hopefully there will be at least a manual scheduler in a future patch. Tried the scheduler.txt utility from fbmax, but when it opens it gives me a "something is wrong, we're sorry for the inconvenience error". Anyone else having any luck with schedules at this point?

Tbird -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (4/2/2006 8:09:13 PM)
You can modify it but you have to know the team ID number it doesn't show the team name

Rottweiler69 -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (4/2/2006 8:53:52 PM)
Is that in the mdb file?

Magnum357 -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (4/3/2006 2:15:10 AM)
Hey guys, just a quick update on my Schedule program. At this point, the untility can function, but I'm still having some problems with the program. Right now, it can load needed League file, but it only displays the ID number for each teams matchup. I wanted it too be able too display the actual teams name but I haven't figured out to do that yet. Also, I'm trying to add a feature that allows you too print out a .txt file of a Particular Teams schedule if the user wants too. This has also delayed my progress of releasing my utiltity as I'm having trouble trying to get Team names to display right in the program.

Rottweiler69 -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (4/3/2006 3:22:10 AM)
Just good to know that you are still working on it.Though I can't seem to get ANY utility from fbmax to work. This includes the database viewer and scheduler.txt.I'm sure it's something missing on my part, but I'm not saavy enough to figure out too much. In other words, the problem is probably between the chair and the keyboard.I may have to wait for a patch to get it done in the future. crosses fingers

Magnum357 -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (4/3/2006 10:33:45 AM)
Hey Rottweiler, where you able to use the DataConstant Utility I made for MaxFB? It allows you too adjust Gameplay settings sort of like how Madden has its slider settings. The only other files that you need to make it run is the vb6 runtime files, but I think almost all up to date XP OS's should have those in Windows already. That is another thing I'm trying to do while making my utilities. I'm trying to make them pretty easy to install and use on anybodies system. So you don't have to have the latest version of Access or Jet Database to make it function.

Tbird -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (4/3/2006 10:41:35 AM)
Can't wait for you utility Magnum I have a small league right now so it might not be too hard for me to make my own schedules [:)]

22sec -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (4/3/2006 11:27:23 PM)
Yeah I'm still interested too Magnum.

Rottweiler69 -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (4/4/2006 2:16:58 AM)
I haven't tried the slider utility Magnum, but I will tonight (Monday). The other two utilities I tried needed other items that my machine must not have. I have XP with all critical utilities totally updated, but still get errors when running the others. I'll let you know how it goes with the slider.

Rottweiler69 -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (4/4/2006 2:29:56 AM)
The utility seems to work Magnum, although before it gives me the window to adjust the values, I get a error message that says "The data binding DLL 'VB5DB.DLL' could not be loaded. If I click "ok" from the error message though it takes me to the value adjusting box.

Magnum357 -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (4/4/2006 12:26:21 PM)
Hmmm... that is a little odd. It looks like your system is trying to use a VB5 .dll file to use with the utility with the Database. Not sure why though, as I completely build my Utilities with VB6. But I'm glad the Utility is still working out for you. Just out of curiosity, what OS are you using? Right now, I still working on my schedule utility, but what I think I'm going to do when I release it on www.fbmax.com is too include the Microsoft VB6 Runtime file with the Utility. That will help people who do not have those Runtime files.

Rottweiler69 -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (4/5/2006 2:28:46 AM)
I am using a service pack 1 XP OS patched to SP2 and fully updated with the critical updates. This could be the problem, as I may have missed several dll files that were not critical based on SP2. Either way, I think it would be a smart move for you to include the runtime files with your utility. I know alot of old fbpro buddies who are gonna get into this game later and are running older (98se, 2000) machines.If the runtime files are installed with the game and the machine already has them, will they cause a problem? If not, IMO definitely include them. Thanks, ROT

Magnum357 -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (4/5/2006 4:25:23 AM)
No, not that I'm aware of. The install package that allows you too install Runtime files will either add or update the vb6 runtime files automatically. I agree with your friends about using older OS's to play Football Pro and other stuff. WinXP I guess is ok, but I still like using Windows 98 SE and 2000 more then XP. Don't worry, I will include the Runtime files with my schedule utility, if I can ever get the darn thing to work right. [8\|]

Scott_WAR -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (4/28/2006 10:02:35 AM)
Another problem I didnt see listed thats far more problematic, is the same team playing two opponents in the same week. I am trying to play a 24 team (2 conferences, 2 divisions per conference, 6 teams per division) league, with 16 games, and am consistently seeing the schedule showing teams playing twice in one week. EDIT----- Ok, I was using the out of game utility to generate the schedules. When I didnt use the utilities after starting the season, before the draft, and let the schedule get generated while in game, I didnt have the problem. Needs more testing to be sure, but I think thats the problem I was having, especially from reading Davids earlier posts about his preference using the in game things over the utilities.

Deltadog -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (4/28/2006 8:48:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: 21SEC Has anyone tried editing the schedules? I have set up a 12 team college league with 2 divisions. The game created a schedule that I did not like. I opened the league file using access (following Shaggyra instructions in an earlier thread - linking a blank Access 2000 DB with the version the game created) After doing that I manually edited the schedule which runs for 12 weeks so that each team plays each other team one time only. (11 games To do this each team had to have an open date. After I made these changes, I opened the league data base with the game and it showed the schedule, just as I entered it. I have not tried to run the season yet, so far all appears to be working correctly with this edit. Teams are entered in the schedule using numbers 1,2,3---12 instead of team names. When viewed in the game, the names are shown just as is the case with the schedules it creates.

MjH -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (4/29/2006 3:32:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: 21SEC Has anyone tried editing the schedules? I did something similar to what Deltadog did. However, instead of editing the games that had been created I deleted the generated games and inserted new rows into the schedule table. Same result, just a different way of getting there. [:)] I don't have Access, so I use a Java-based SQL tool and use the Java JDBC-ODBC bridge to connect to the league database.

Scott_WAR -> RE: Schedule problems w/ 12 team league (4/29/2006 5:24:48 AM)
Well, that doesnt work for those us of who not only dont have those tools, but who wont be getting them, and wouldnt know how to use them if they did. We need it fixed in a patch.

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