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Ursa MAior -> RE: The Barbarossa Bump... (4/20/2006 10:12:10 AM)

Drink another coffe mlees.[;)] Time to wake up. Shangri-La is a mythical place (something like Paradise fro christians it also called Shambala). IMHO it is similar to Nik's Alien Spacecraft. It is a joke. Or is he really orbiting somewhere? [:D][;)][8D]

http://www.pilgrimsbooks.com/mythology.html



mlees -> RE: The Barbarossa Bump... (4/20/2006 10:44:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Ursa MAior

Drink another coffe mlees.[;)] Time to wake up. Shangri-La is a mythical place (something like Paradise fro christians it also called Shambala). IMHO it is similar to Nik's Alien Spacecraft. It is a joke. Or is he really orbiting somewhere? [:D][;)][8D]

http://www.pilgrimsbooks.com/mythology.html


Ahem. I was referring to the "from:" entry in barbarrossa's (the OP) avatar. *Looks at clock* Actually, it's time for my beauty sleep.



el cid again -> RE: What's Wrong with this Picture? (4/20/2006 12:15:35 PM)

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My cousin Tim was on the New Jersey..He told me it is very dangerous to be on the deck when the big guns are firing.
Looks like people are out there??


I witnessed Big J fire for the first time in practice in 1968 off San Clemente island. In spite of that, I forgot what it is like, and when she fired her first shots in anger in August of that year, and I was again present - on a DIFFERENT ship - I forgot about the report. Until it arrived. Not pleasant.



Nikademus -> RE: The Barbarossa Bump... (4/20/2006 4:25:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Ursa MAior

Drink another coffe mlees.[;)] Time to wake up. Shangri-La is a mythical place (something like Paradise fro christians it also called Shambala). IMHO it is similar to Nik's Alien Spacecraft. It is a joke. Or is he really orbiting somewhere? [:D][;)][8D]

http://www.pilgrimsbooks.com/mythology.html


I'm orbiting my own private little world.....wheeeeeeee



Ursa MAior -> RE: The Barbarossa Bump... (4/20/2006 4:38:05 PM)

And what about your satellite Mk I ?[:D]



Nikademus -> RE: The Barbarossa Bump... (4/20/2006 4:40:47 PM)

that contains the DEATH BEAM. Gonna make more of Speedy's LCU's disapear.



1EyedJacks -> RE: The Barbarossa Bump... (4/20/2006 5:36:27 PM)

Is it the wind? It looks like the flag shows the wind should be blowing the powder-smoke back into the ship?



Curty -> RE: The Barbarossa Bump... (4/20/2006 5:38:51 PM)

We seem to have lost Barbarossa and his explanation of what is wrong with his overgrown war canoe[:)]



Speedysteve -> RE: The Barbarossa Bump... (4/20/2006 6:03:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nikademus

that contains the DEATH BEAM. Gonna make more of Speedy's LCU's disapear.


I found the Division! It warped from a TF to a base.

You sure you haven't got a teleportation beam rather than a death ray?



RevRick -> RE: What's Wrong with this Picture? (4/21/2006 4:08:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: barbarrossa

I'll jump on the "what is it?" bandwagon.
I was in Turret 2 during this shoot -- actually filling the role of turret officer before they wised up and put a real 0 in there.

So, what's wrong with this picture?[;)]

Okay.. Here's what I see. The director on top of the conning tower seems to be pointed to starboard, while the guns are firing to port. Check out the picture below of the bridge of Wisconsin.

[image]local://upfiles/11466/CE981E6516F14C2CA38FE0E21020B312.jpg[/image]


For want of a better term, the "fat" end of the director is pointed forward in the Wisconsin picture, which one could assume because of Navy tradition is the proper direction. Take a look at Barbarrossa's pic, and it appears to be pointed away from the direction the guns are firing.

[image]local://upfiles/1228/C66F578F2B5B42D2902A6C6CBE7A857C.jpg[/image]



tsimmonds -> RE: What's Wrong with this Picture? (4/22/2006 3:14:37 AM)

IOW, while the gun crews are humping 2600 pound bullets, the FC crew is checking out the babes on some beach in the opposite direction.......?



RevRick -> RE: What's Wrong with this Picture? (4/22/2006 3:19:04 AM)

Yep.. Looks like that to me. It better be something real exciting, like LST's canoe without the writing at least.



aletoledo -> RE: What's Wrong with this Picture? (4/22/2006 4:47:36 AM)

revrick, in your lower picture, which ones exactly are the fire directors?

I thought it was the black thing on the side of the turret, but thats not obviously in the lower picture. seems like I'm the only one not in the navy! [X(]



Black Mamba 1942 -> RE: What's Wrong with this Picture? (4/22/2006 5:02:07 AM)

So has anyone heard when the USS Princess Di will be launched?

Off topic I know.[;)]




mlees -> RE: What's Wrong with this Picture? (4/22/2006 5:36:03 AM)

I am a carrier sailor, so please forgive me if I get this wrong. In the picture below, I drew a box around the "Range finder" portion of the Gun director. This structure should actually revolve, and "face" the target. Correct?

If so, does it look like, in the OP photo, that it is facing the opposite direction? I can't tell.

[image]local://upfiles/10157/C8EBAA36DB4147ADBB8611151EF49502.jpg[/image]



RevRick -> RE: What's Wrong with this Picture? (4/22/2006 5:06:27 PM)

Yep, that's what I'm talking about. (Sounds like a bad Domino's Commercial!?!?!) I was not a gunnery type - a communicator instead. But, IIRC from my reading, that device is the primary main director, which detects the range and bearing to the target (and provides constant updated data, I believe,)forwards it to the analog computer in fire control (underneath the deck armor,) which sends those calculations directly to the turrets for laying the guns. I believe the fire control center can accept data from the Primary and Secondary Main directors, or the Mk 37 5" directors as well. There is a smaller version of this same device on a tower abaft of the aft funnel.



mc3744 -> RE: I see that bump.. (4/22/2006 5:27:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: aletoledo

great story about foo birds!!!

I wonder if the expression is just north american or do europeans get it?


I didn't get it. [&:]
Not sure if it's because I'm European [;)]



rtrapasso -> RE: I see that bump.. (4/22/2006 5:39:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mc3744


quote:

ORIGINAL: aletoledo

great story about foo birds!!!

I wonder if the expression is just north american or do europeans get it?


I didn't get it. [&:]
Not sure if it's because I'm European [;)]


it's a play on the phrase "if the shoe fits, wear it."



barbarrossa -> RE: What's Wrong with this Picture? (4/22/2006 6:11:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RevRick

quote:

ORIGINAL: barbarrossa

I'll jump on the "what is it?" bandwagon.
I was in Turret 2 during this shoot -- actually filling the role of turret officer before they wised up and put a real 0 in there.

So, what's wrong with this picture?[;)]

Okay.. Here's what I see. The director on top of the conning tower seems to be pointed to starboard, while the guns are firing to port. Check out the picture below of the bridge of Wisconsin.

[image]local://upfiles/11466/CE981E6516F14C2CA38FE0E21020B312.jpg[/image]


For want of a better term, the "fat" end of the director is pointed forward in the Wisconsin picture, which one could assume because of Navy tradition is the proper direction. Take a look at Barbarrossa's pic, and it appears to be pointed away from the direction the guns are firing.

[image]local://upfiles/1228/C66F578F2B5B42D2902A6C6CBE7A857C.jpg[/image]



That's it!![&o][&o][&o][:D]

The main battery forward gun director (Spot One) is pointed in the exact opposite direction from where we're firing! Spot One suffered a synchro casualty and could not hold a stable bearing because of scoring on a set of contacts. The scoring caused such shifting (bouncing actually) in train that when the turrets went to auto they shook like there was an earthquake.

Spot Two was the controlling director.

Sorry it took so long for me to get back for the answer.



barbarrossa -> RE: I see that bump.. (4/22/2006 6:16:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

It looks like the red pennant is actually blowing forward (or at best, across the deck at right angle to the presumed direction of motion). Ditto the smoke. There is no bow wake. Put that together and it would suggest the ship is motionless. I would tend to believe that is not the way it is usually done




We were doing about 2 knots.



barbarrossa -> RE: What's Wrong with this Picture? (4/22/2006 6:19:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: irrelevant

IOW, while the gun crews are humping 2600 pound bullets, the FC crew is checking out the babes on some beach in the opposite direction.......?


That is a fringe benefit when manning directors with powerful optics![:D]



barbarrossa -> RE: What's Wrong with this Picture? (4/22/2006 6:28:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RevRick

Yep, that's what I'm talking about. (Sounds like a bad Domino's Commercial!?!?!) I was not a gunnery type - a communicator instead. But, IIRC from my reading, that device is the primary main director, which detects the range and bearing to the target (and provides constant updated data, I believe,)forwards it to the analog computer in fire control (underneath the deck armor,) which sends those calculations directly to the turrets for laying the guns. I believe the fire control center can accept data from the Primary and Secondary Main directors, or the Mk 37 5" directors as well. There is a smaller version of this same device on a tower abaft of the aft funnel.


That's about it!



mc3744 -> RE: I see that bump.. (4/23/2006 1:15:57 AM)

Thanks rtrapasso. [:)]
I would have never got it! [:'(]

One more piece of English ... or is it American? [:D]



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