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spence -> A French (?) Nelson (4/13/2006 6:33:52 PM)

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Just wondering if there are any Free French Admirals in the game. I formed a TF in OZ which included the Free French Destroyer Leader Le Triomphant and one of the Admiral choices offered for the TF was EFV Deschineaux (not sure of the spelling cause I'm at work but that's pretty French looking ). In any case using that spelling I couldn't find anything out about the guy so I figured to fire off a quick question here.

Thanx in advance

Maybe it's Descheneaux but can't find anything with that spelling either.


WHOEVER THIS GUY IS HE JUST LED A SMALL FORCE OF ALLIED CRUISERS AGAINST HALF OF THE COMBINED FLEET AND KICKED SOME SERIOUS A$$ CONSIDERING THE RELATIVE RATIO OF FORCES (unlike Nelson he survived too). SORTA WANT TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE IT IS DUE IN THE PBEM AAR.




m10bob -> RE: A French (?) Nelson (4/13/2006 6:40:02 PM)

Of course a name like that may be Canadian or U.S., as well..We are both pretty much "melting pot countries"..[:D]
Why...I've even had entire U.S. fleets commanded by Lt Tanaka !![sm=00000280.gif][sm=00000436.gif]




spence -> RE: A French (?) Nelson (4/13/2006 6:43:20 PM)

I don't think he ever shows up as eligible to command a US only fleet though so I'm sure he's not US.
Maybe someone could check the data base (like I said I'm at work now) though I don't know if nationality is listed there.[:)]




Kereguelen -> RE: A French (?) Nelson (4/13/2006 6:58:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: spence

quote:

Just wondering if there are any Free French Admirals in the game. I formed a TF in OZ which included the Free French Destroyer Leader Le Triomphant and one of the Admiral choices offered for the TF was EFV Deschineaux (not sure of the spelling cause I'm at work but that's pretty French looking ). In any case using that spelling I couldn't find anything out about the guy so I figured to fire off a quick question here.

Thanx in advance

Maybe it's Descheneaux but can't find anything with that spelling either.


WHOEVER THIS GUY IS HE JUST LED A SMALL FORCE OF ALLIED CRUISERS AGAINST HALF OF THE COMBINED FLEET AND KICKED SOME SERIOUS A$$ CONSIDERING THE RELATIVE RATIO OF FORCES (unlike Nelson he survived too). SORTA WANT TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE IT IS DUE IN THE PBEM AAR.


Dechaineaux was the captain of the cruiser HMAS Australia. He is an Australian leader (but no admiral, seems that CA Australia was your flag ship).




mogami -> RE: A French (?) Nelson (4/13/2006 7:05:52 PM)

Hi, Captain Emile Dechaineaux, he died as a resul of wounds sustained in a kamikaze attack on HMAS Australia in 1944. He should be a Cpt not an Admiral.




spence -> RE: A French (?) Nelson (4/13/2006 8:34:27 PM)

Thanks all[:)]




Ron Saueracker -> RE: A French (?) Nelson (4/14/2006 1:30:21 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: spence

quote:

Just wondering if there are any Free French Admirals in the game. I formed a TF in OZ which included the Free French Destroyer Leader Le Triomphant and one of the Admiral choices offered for the TF was EFV Deschineaux (not sure of the spelling cause I'm at work but that's pretty French looking ). In any case using that spelling I couldn't find anything out about the guy so I figured to fire off a quick question here.

Thanx in advance

Maybe it's Descheneaux but can't find anything with that spelling either.


WHOEVER THIS GUY IS HE JUST LED A SMALL FORCE OF ALLIED CRUISERS AGAINST HALF OF THE COMBINED FLEET AND KICKED SOME SERIOUS A$$ CONSIDERING THE RELATIVE RATIO OF FORCES (unlike Nelson he survived too). SORTA WANT TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE IT IS DUE IN THE PBEM AAR.


I'd love to see an example of the small TF beating up on the big TF due to the KUNG FU movie factor. Please post the report. Thanks.




mogami -> RE: A French (?) Nelson (4/14/2006 2:23:28 AM)

Hi, I'm amazed. Here we have a feature that benifits the use of smaller TF compared to the mass herd and Ron is against it? I've yet to notice this resulting in players using smaller TF to "exploit" it.

Ron S "That rat has taken up sending 4 ship surface combat TF and my 25 ship TF are helpless against them"



(note 4 ship TF are destroyed by 25 ship TF regardless of Kung Fu)




Ron Saueracker -> RE: A French (?) Nelson (4/14/2006 2:50:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Mogami

Hi, I'm amazed. Here we have a feature that benifits the use of smaller TF compared to the mass herd and Ron is against it? I've yet to notice this resulting in players using smaller TF to "exploit" it.

Ron S "That rat has taken up sending 4 ship surface combat TF and my 25 ship TF are helpless against them"



(note 4 ship TF are destroyed by 25 ship TF regardless of Kung Fu)


I'm not against people using smaller TFs! LOL I'm just commenting on the current model's tendency to trade shots between ships one to one so that regardless of the disparity in ships, the same volume of fire is exchanged by either side. Like Kung Fu movies where the mass of bad guys always go after the one good guy one at a time, negating their numbers and allowing the outnumbered good guy even terms.




bradfordkay -> RE: A French (?) Nelson (4/14/2006 7:49:54 AM)

Ron's post reminds me that I'd like to see naval combat use some sort of ops points in each round as well. After all, a round of combat must be a certain amount of time, right? My feeling is that each gun on each ship should only be able to fire a certain number of times in a round of combat, no matter how many ships have targetted the ship. It seems like Ron believes that this is not happening.




spence -> RE: A French (?) Nelson (4/14/2006 3:32:12 PM)

For Ron and any others interested, here's the combat report

Night Time Surface Combat, near Luganville at 72,107

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 2
BB Yamashiro, Shell hits 1
CL Yura
CL Kinu, Shell hits 1
CL Abukuma, Shell hits 2
CL Tama
CL Kiso, Shell hits 1
DD Wakaba
DD Kamikaze
DD Okikaze
DD Tachikaze, Shell hits 2
DD Nokaze, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CA Louisville, Shell hits 5, on fire
CA Pensacola
CA Australia
CL Leander, Shell hits 6
CL Achilles, Shell hits 1
CL Perth, Shell hits 2
CL Hobart
DD Le Triomphant, Shell hits 4, on fire

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Luganville at 72,107

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 1
BB Yamashiro, Shell hits 1
CL Yura, Shell hits 1
CL Kinu, Shell hits 1
CL Abukuma
CL Tama, Shell hits 2
CL Kiso, Shell hits 1
DD Wakaba
DD Kamikaze
DD Okikaze
DD Tachikaze, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Nokaze, Shell hits 6, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CA Louisville, Shell hits 4, on fire
CA Pensacola
CA Australia
CL Leander
CL Achilles
CL Perth
CL Hobart, Shell hits 1
DD Le Triomphant, Shell hits 1, on fire

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Luganville at 72,107

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 2
BB Yamashiro, Shell hits 9
CL Yura, Shell hits 18, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL Kinu, Shell hits 5, on fire
CL Abukuma, Shell hits 1, on fire
CL Tama
CL Kiso, Shell hits 6
DD Wakaba
DD Kamikaze
DD Okikaze, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Tachikaze, on fire

Allied Ships
CA Louisville, Shell hits 12, on fire, heavy damage
CA Pensacola
CA Australia, Shell hits 2
CL Leander, Shell hits 1
CL Achilles, Shell hits 2
CL Perth
CL Hobart, Shell hits 3
DD Le Triomphant, Shell hits 3, on fire

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Luganville at 72,107


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
SOC-3 Seagull: 5 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Hiei, Shell hits 2, on fire
BB Kirishima, Shell hits 4
BB Fuso, Shell hits 3
DD Yugumo, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Kagero, Shell hits 23, and is sunk
DD Shiranuhi, Shell hits 10, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hatsuharu
DD Nenohi, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hato, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CA Louisville, and is sunk
CA Pensacola, Shell hits 9
CA Australia, Shell hits 6
CL Leander, Shell hits 13, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL Achilles, Shell hits 1
CL Perth, Shell hits 1
CL Hobart, Shell hits 1
DD Le Triomphant, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk


Allies lost 1 CA, 1 CL, and 1 DD sunk. The rest of the TF suffered no more than 4 sys damage.
It is confirmed that the Nips lost 1 CL and 2 DDs sunk. Three more DDs suffered heavy damage and significant damage was done to a BB, several CLs and several DDs.








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