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el cid again -> RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Medium Version 2.54 Released to testers (6/7/2006 1:36:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: witpqs

The USN AO Kankakee arrives at San Francisco (in late July '42 I think) with Endurance of '-11072'. When formed into a TF and replenished it increases to '100'. Don't know the slot number (how do you see the slot number on ships anyway?).


I just saw this for a gigantic AK in Japan (I added it - the biggest in the world I think - 80,000 tons - Queen Mary sized!). I cannot let her carry over 32,000 tons - or she gets a -abcde rating! The field is the power of 2 nearest 32 k limited - 8 bits I suppose - and I bet it is the same here.
Someone entered a number to big for the field! I will look for her (the ship, not the data entry person).



CobraAus -> RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Medium Version 2.54 Released to testers (6/7/2006 4:38:44 AM)

v2.59.7 minor upgrade for CVO-RAO-BBO posted on link page

Cobra Aus



Hipper -> RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Medium Version 2.54 Released to testers (6/7/2006 5:51:30 AM)

Hi Cid

not to reopen the whole FAA thing again just two points

one
I note that 832 squadron on Victorious (db no 2172) starts with Barracuda's ... I think they were Avengers, various sorces for this if you want but Victorious air groups were specifically chosen to be american aircraft while it was helping out in the South Pacific.

Two
on Illustrious I note you have given her an air group of 18 swordfish and 18 albacores
810 and 817 squadrons.... but no fighter group which should be 881 squadron with 21 martlets (according to FAA archive) or is your intention to let the 806 squadron arriving at Celyon act as the fighter squadron for this carrier

cheers Hipper



el cid again -> RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Medium Version 2.54 Released to testers (6/7/2006 6:27:25 AM)

I will investigate quick and dirty. It is NEVER my intent that a land unit base on a carrier - it is a problem with attrition.

832 Squadron is indeed Avengers - and it may be a one line slip in the field - but if we do this it costs the ship (edit) three months - because they do not go to the ship until January.

And there is one carrier with no air group - for two months. Because she was used to ferry fighters to Singapore. I hope the planes appear on board when intended. In RHSPPO I will put the planes on board from Dec 1941 - and players can land them if they want to.

I am having trouble with the other carriers. This is a nightmare - and I don't like any solution.



el cid again -> RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Medium Version 2.54 Released to testers (6/7/2006 6:30:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Jo van der Pluym

Comments about NEI Korps Insulade.

1. It must be Korps Insulinde. And it was not a NEI unit. Because 80 to 85% arrives from Europe.

2. There first Commander is Maj. Mollinger F.

3. They where all from medio march in training in Camp D by Colombo Ceylon. The unit is formed and battleready from 1 augustus 1942.

4. They had never mortars.

5. And the HQ must be UK South East Asia. ABDA had all surrend




Nice comments all - except WHAT nation or service abbreviation should be used? I assume they are still NEI in exile. Is this incorrect?

Edit: I seem to have lost this unit: what slot do you see it in?



el cid again -> RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Medium Version 2.54 Released to testers (6/7/2006 2:18:32 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Jo van der Pluym

quote:

ORIGINAL: el cid again
Raider Brigades (Airborne).


The Dai I Teishin Dan (1st Raiding Brigade) exist early 1942 out
Brigade HQ (Col Seiichi Kume)
1st Raiding Regt (Maj Takeo Takeda)
2nd Raiding Regt (Maj Takeo Komura)
Raiding Flying Regt ( Maj Akihito Niihara) (Airforce)
   (4 Transport Companies each 12x  Hickory or Topsy a/c)
Airfield Comapny

Raiding Regt 1942
Regt HQ
1st, 2nd and 3rd Rifle Companies
   each Co HQ
   3x Rifle Platoon each 3 sections (each 1 LMG, 2x or 3x Grenade dischargers)
   HMG Platoon (2 or more HMGs)
   AT Section (1x 3.7cm AT Gun or 1x 2cm AT Rifle or 1x 3.7cm Infantry gun)
4th Engineer Co.
   Co HQ
   3x Engineer Platoon




I do not understand the significance of this comment?

It is more or less correct re organization, but wrong for dated. A German mission went to Japan (88 strong) and it organized both Navy and Army paras in 1941. There were three battalions of Naval troops, and three of army, but one of the army ones was the "training raiding regiment" - which was intended as a second line unit to season troops before they went to the first line units. The organization is evolutionary, and it changes form significantly by midwar: another para "brigade" (2 battalions again) is added; and two glider "regiments" (battalions), plus a special ops unit (2 companies) and a tank unit (2 companies), and a "group" (almost division) HQ - including a mobile air base support unit and a small AAA unit which flies, and an engineer element. There is a second air element as well - and Japan is credited by historians at doing better than any other power in giving command and control of the planes as well as the paras to the airborne commander (although it never gave the units enough planes - so they often "borrowed" others). There are quite a number of para ops, large and small, in many places, in particular in the Philippines, in the Dutch East Indies and in China - more than the Allies launched in fact. The most successful was the drop on Timor - showing a fairly sophisticated doctrine - including a dummy drop - but nevertheless most of the larger ops resulted in very high casualties. The drop at Palembang succeeded in some ways, but not in its primary mission: the refineries were damaged anyway. The drop at Minado was Navy, not Army. The largest op was on Leyte Island in 1944 - and it was a wipe out - and executed against the better judgement of the theater commander on orders from Tokyo. There are many small ops we never hear about. My father in law tells a tale of a column formed up after a drop which marched onto a USAAF airfield (he was an MP) led by an English speaking officer - and then proceeded to attack the parked aircraft - but you don't read about it in our war stories.



Jo van der Pluym -> RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Medium Version 2.54 Released to testers (6/7/2006 3:03:43 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: el cid again


quote:

ORIGINAL: Jo van der Pluym

quote:

ORIGINAL: el cid again
Raider Brigades (Airborne).


The Dai I Teishin Dan (1st Raiding Brigade) exist early 1942 out
Brigade HQ (Col Seiichi Kume)
1st Raiding Regt (Maj Takeo Takeda)
2nd Raiding Regt (Maj Takeo Komura)
Raiding Flying Regt ( Maj Akihito Niihara) (Airforce)
   (4 Transport Companies each 12x  Hickory or Topsy a/c)
Airfield Comapny

Raiding Regt 1942
Regt HQ
1st, 2nd and 3rd Rifle Companies
   each Co HQ
   3x Rifle Platoon each 3 sections (each 1 LMG, 2x or 3x Grenade dischargers)
   HMG Platoon (2 or more HMGs)
   AT Section (1x 3.7cm AT Gun or 1x 2cm AT Rifle or 1x 3.7cm Infantry gun)
4th Engineer Co.
   Co HQ
   3x Engineer Platoon




I do not understand the significance of this comment?


you had in a old post about the book of Osprey about Japanese Airborne troops.
I thought that you need that info, and have post it. Therafter read I that you had the book.



el cid again -> RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Medium Version 2.54 Released to testers (6/7/2006 3:12:41 PM)

OK - thanks.

What slot number did I put the Korps Insulinde in?




Jo van der Pluym -> RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Medium Version 2.54 Released to testers (6/7/2006 4:08:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: el cid again

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jo van der Pluym

Comments about NEI Korps Insulade.

1. It must be Korps Insulinde. And it was not a NEI unit. Because 80 to 85% arrives from Europe.

2. There first Commander is Maj. Mollinger F.

3. They where all from medio march in training in Camp D by Colombo Ceylon. The unit is formed and battleready from 1 augustus 1942.

4. They had never mortars.

5. And the HQ must be UK South East Asia. ABDA had all surrend




Nice comments all - except WHAT nation or service abbreviation should be used? I assume they are still NEI in exile. Is this incorrect?

Edit: I seem to have lost this unit: what slot do you see it in?


slot 2531 and the abbreviation NE for Netherlands



Hipper -> RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Medium Version 2.54 Released to testers (6/7/2006 8:58:14 PM)

 
832 Squadron is indeed Avengers - and it may be a one line slip in the field - but if we do this it costs the ship a month - because they do not go to the ship until January.

should not be a problem Cid   It looks like the ship arrives in Nomea in May 17th

Refitted at Norfolk Navy Yard USA, winter 1942-43, after which she was loaned to the US Pacific Fleet until being replaced by USS Essex. Despite its massive industrial muscle, the United States still found itself short of carriers in the Pacific, the only American carrier available in the South Pacific was USS Saratoga. HMS Victorious sailed to Pearl Harbor to join USS Saratoga's Battle Group, Task Force 14. She arrived and took up duties under Task Force 14 in the the Southwest Pacific on 17th May 1943. Renamed the USS Robin, she embarked US aircraft and aircrew, and with the Saratoga swept the Soloman Islands, whilst Saratoga embarked all the strike squadrons including the Fleet Air Arm 832 Squadron Avengers.



Hipper -> RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Medium Version 2.54 Released to testers (6/7/2006 9:16:07 PM)

Sorry cant resist putting my oar in about Indominables air group one last time

"And there is one carrier with no air group - for two months. Because she was used to ferry fighters to Singapore. I hope the planes appear on board when intended. In RHSPPO I will put the planes on board from Dec 1941 - and players can land them if they want to."

I suppose my point is that HMS indominable arrived at Aden with her full air group, it was then unloaded while she ferried hurricanes to Java .... That may have or may not have been the best use of HMS indominable However you are forcing this choice on players rather than letting them decide for themselves what they want to do !  

minor rant over  Its a very minor point in the sceme of things

Hipper




el cid again -> RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Medium Version 2.54 Released to testers (6/7/2006 10:18:44 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hipper

Sorry cant resist putting my oar in about Indominables air group one last time

"And there is one carrier with no air group - for two months. Because she was used to ferry fighters to Singapore. I hope the planes appear on board when intended. In RHSPPO I will put the planes on board from Dec 1941 - and players can land them if they want to."

I suppose my point is that HMS indominable arrived at Aden with her full air group, it was then unloaded while she ferried hurricanes to Java .... That may have or may not have been the best use of HMS indominable However you are forcing this choice on players rather than letting them decide for themselves what they want to do !  

minor rant over  Its a very minor point in the sceme of things

Hipper


Well - someone else ranted she is not available at all until February 1942!
Normally I would say "you can't have it both ways." And there is the matter of sending planes to Singapore: but in our game I am doubtful the Hurricanes EVER get sent there - much less brigades of troops! Players are not playing historically anyway - they tend to EVACUATE Malaya rather than reinforce it - and AI certainly does that. So a lot of this "I want pure history" stuff is pure bunk. Nevertheless,

I think you can have it both ways. I have decided - and tried to post above - to let the air group be on her in RHSPPO and RHSESO - in the main because these are games in which players get a lot more political control (in the form of political points) - and players who don't want that won't be playing them - and also because those games are structurally designed for an Allied team playing DIFFERENT options from srict history: who is to say she MUST ferry planes to Singapore with a DIFFERENT strategy? Answer: you the player. It seems actually correct in such a scenario.

RHSCVO (and the Russian Active variation) is supposed to be nearly Scenario 15 - just with RHS planes, geography, ships, economics, and land units. RSHBBO (and the Russian passive variation) is supposed to be the same thing with planned shipbuilding left in place for both sides.
Being the same - we keep it the same. RHSPPO is supposed to free players up a bit politics wise - but is based on RHSBBO ships - since it is assumed that most people willing to "do it different" will want the different ships options. RHSESO is a Japan enhansed scenario, and it must be more CVO like, although it keeps some of the few best things of BBO plans, since Japan cannot optimize without being carrier focused. It gives CVO players the political options, and it gives the AI as Japan the best chance of being competative - as well as being designed for the pleasure of JFBs: If Japan is to have a chance the kind of planning done for Malaya needs to be done theater wide; Yamashita's reforms to the Army need not to be shelved; the creation of the planned Grand Escort Command needs not to be delayed too long; and the same for the "Japanese Albert Speer" re economics. Both scenarios make it reasonable the Allies are not entirely tied to history.

But you can go too far down that road: Why not make Japan first the US strategy? Why not transfer MORE ships from outside to PTO? CHS has 2/3 of C-47s in lend lease sent to PTO (30 per month of a total of 45 per month): why not do that for every kind of plane, and make it 3/4 to boot?
Somewhere one must draw the line - and really major changes along these lines are ones all modders seem to be avoiding - correctly I believe.





el cid again -> RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Medium Version 2.54 Released to testers (6/7/2006 10:26:16 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hipper

 
832 Squadron is indeed Avengers - and it may be a one line slip in the field - but if we do this it costs the ship a month - because they do not go to the ship until January.

should not be a problem Cid   It looks like the ship arrives in Nomea in May 17th

Refitted at Norfolk Navy Yard USA, winter 1942-43, after which she was loaned to the US Pacific Fleet until being replaced by USS Essex. Despite its massive industrial muscle, the United States still found itself short of carriers in the Pacific, the only American carrier available in the South Pacific was USS Saratoga. HMS Victorious sailed to Pearl Harbor to join USS Saratoga's Battle Group, Task Force 14. She arrived and took up duties under Task Force 14 in the the Southwest Pacific on 17th May 1943. Renamed the USS Robin, she embarked US aircraft and aircrew, and with the Saratoga swept the Soloman Islands, whilst Saratoga embarked all the strike squadrons including the Fleet Air Arm 832 Squadron Avengers.



Well, we can't make her arrive in Noumea on May 17th! Noumea may well not be Allied by then (and won't be if I play Japan). Better give her time to transit from Panama - call it May 1st. The problem with that is that CHS has her appearing by February - and I found material saying she was assigned to US forces in October the previous year. If this is when she arrives, that solves my 832 squadron problems. [832 seems also to have served on USS Saratoga for a spell - possibly to learn our tactics?]



Hipper -> RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Medium Version 2.54 Released to testers (6/8/2006 2:02:50 AM)

The story goes that when Saratoga and Victorious operated together, they pooled their air groups so  all the avengers operated on Saratoga While all the Wildcats operated on Victorious (all 60 of them [:D] )  why they did this we can only speculate ..... I suspect  the USN did not trust the RN to put together an large enough strike package 

I lilke Victorious turning up in the Panama Canal .. just make sure it is possible for her to get to Nomea Via Pearl  by mid may

Re Indominable  back later  







akdreemer -> RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Medium Version 2.54 Released to testers (6/8/2006 4:10:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: el cid again



Well, we can't make her arrive in Noumea on May 17th! Noumea may well not be Allied by then (and won't be if I play Japan). Better give her time to transit from Panama - call it May 1st. The problem with that is that CHS has her appearing by February - and I found material saying she was assigned to US forces in October the previous year. If this is when she arrives, that solves my 832 squadron problems. [832 seems also to have served on USS Saratoga for a spell - possibly to learn our tactics?]



She was escorted in the Pacific by a couple of USN escorts from Balboa to Noumea. I can give you that info when I get home. Or you can look it up yourself on the excel file i sent u a while back. The big problem with this, as in a lot of the arrival times, was that they were the result of historical events, in this case a gross shortage of US Carriers.



CobraAus -> RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Medium Version 2.54 Released to testers (6/8/2006 5:09:25 AM)

v2.59.8 minor upgrade for CVO-RAO-BBO posted on link page

Cobra Aus



Hipper -> RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Medium Version 2.54 Released to testers (6/8/2006 5:17:30 PM)

Hi Cid

one thing noted   you have the Hurricane IIc starting at coming into service on 5/43..... do you mean 5/42

The Indian air force was converting to Hurricane IIc's by June 42





History of Sqn
No. 4 Squadron of the IAF was born in the war at  Peshawar on 01 Feb 1942.  The Squadron was first equipped with Lysander aircraft.  The Second World war was in its third year and Japanese forces were advancing towards India's eastern frontiers.   Within a few days, the Sqn moved to Kohat in NWEP.
In 1942 the Squadron moved on a detachment to Hyderabad (Sind) to operate in support of the Army during operations against the Hurs.  The Indian   Army was then dealing with the insurrection instigated by the Fakir of Ippi.
During 1942 the Squadron also operated Lysander detachments from Miranshah, a forward base in the NWEP, for action against insurgent Pathan tribals.  During this period the Sqn operated its aircraft as bombers, besides carrying out its Army air co-operations role, tactical recce and mail dropping missions.
In June 1942, the Sqn moved to the RAF station at Risalpur, near Rawalpindi, for converting onto Huricane fighter bombers.  The coversion training was completed by August 1942 and No. 4 Sqn moved to Phaphamau to collect its branch new Huricane IIC aircraft.
 
from http://www.indianairforce.nic.in/afsqnmain1.htm
 
its the indian air force's web site
 
cheers hipper




el cid again -> RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Medium Version 2.54 Released to testers (6/8/2006 8:53:00 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hipper

Hi Cid

one thing noted   you have the Hurricane IIc starting at coming into service on 5/43..... do you mean 5/42

The Indian air force was converting to Hurricane IIc's by June 42





History of Sqn
No. 4 Squadron of the IAF was born in the war at  Peshawar on 01 Feb 1942.  The Squadron was first equipped with Lysander aircraft.  The Second World war was in its third year and Japanese forces were advancing towards India's eastern frontiers.   Within a few days, the Sqn moved to Kohat in NWEP.
In 1942 the Squadron moved on a detachment to Hyderabad (Sind) to operate in support of the Army during operations against the Hurs.  The Indian   Army was then dealing with the insurrection instigated by the Fakir of Ippi.
During 1942 the Squadron also operated Lysander detachments from Miranshah, a forward base in the NWEP, for action against insurgent Pathan tribals.  During this period the Sqn operated its aircraft as bombers, besides carrying out its Army air co-operations role, tactical recce and mail dropping missions.
In June 1942, the Sqn moved to the RAF station at Risalpur, near Rawalpindi, for converting onto Huricane fighter bombers.  The coversion training was completed by August 1942 and No. 4 Sqn moved to Phaphamau to collect its branch new Huricane IIC aircraft.
 
from http://www.indianairforce.nic.in/afsqnmain1.htm
 
its the indian air force's web site
 
cheers hipper




Well - I have noticed the British tend to discount the Commonwealth.
They claim that No 176 Squadron was the first to use the IIC in the Far East. Confusingly, this is described as a night fighter unit - which seems odd for a non-night figher aircraft (I guess Japan was not alone operating non-radar planes in that role). This is not an issue in other scenarios because they didn't add the Indian Air Force in a comprehensive way. I allow planes from the time they can be operational. If aircraft were being delivered to the unit in August 1942 that means they theoretically could have begun operations in September.



Iron Duke -> RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Medium Version 2.54 Released to testers (6/8/2006 10:04:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: el cid again


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hipper

Hi Cid

one thing noted   you have the Hurricane IIc starting at coming into service on 5/43..... do you mean 5/42

The Indian air force was converting to Hurricane IIc's by June 42





History of Sqn
No. 4 Squadron of the IAF was born in the war at  Peshawar on 01 Feb 1942.  The Squadron was first equipped with Lysander aircraft.  The Second World war was in its third year and Japanese forces were advancing towards India's eastern frontiers.   Within a few days, the Sqn moved to Kohat in NWEP.
In 1942 the Squadron moved on a detachment to Hyderabad (Sind) to operate in support of the Army during operations against the Hurs.  The Indian   Army was then dealing with the insurrection instigated by the Fakir of Ippi.
During 1942 the Squadron also operated Lysander detachments from Miranshah, a forward base in the NWEP, for action against insurgent Pathan tribals.  During this period the Sqn operated its aircraft as bombers, besides carrying out its Army air co-operations role, tactical recce and mail dropping missions.
In June 1942, the Sqn moved to the RAF station at Risalpur, near Rawalpindi, for converting onto Huricane fighter bombers.  The coversion training was completed by August 1942 and No. 4 Sqn moved to Phaphamau to collect its branch new Huricane IIC aircraft.
 
from http://www.indianairforce.nic.in/afsqnmain1.htm
 
its the indian air force's web site
 
cheers hipper




Well - I have noticed the British tend to discount the Commonwealth.
They claim that No 176 Squadron was the first to use the IIC in the Far East. Confusingly, this is described as a night fighter unit - which seems odd for a non-night figher aircraft (I guess Japan was not alone operating non-radar planes in that role). This is not an issue in other scenarios because they didn't add the Indian Air Force in a comprehensive way. I allow planes from the time they can be operational. If aircraft were being delivered to the unit in August 1942 that means they theoretically could have begun operations in September.



Have a source that lists No 176 Sqdn formed at Dum Dum 15 jan 43 with Beaufigter IF , Beaufighter VIF
and added Hurricane IIc 's may 43 with detachments at Feni , Kangla , Chittagong , Tulihal , Ratmalana and Vavuniya.
Unlike in Witp in real life several different aircraft could and were used at the same time within a single squadron .

Another source - 'the forgotten air force'- mentions that on the night 15/16 jan Flgt Sgt Pring in a Beaufighter intercepted and shot down 3 japanese bombers [Pring Prangs Three]
Prior to this Hurricanes acted as nightfigters - as best they could.



el cid again -> KGV Art Problem (6/9/2006 7:37:33 AM)

Cobra reports we have proper KGV art - but three slots don't point to it.
These are 1403, 1636 and 1637. All should point at art bitmap 187.

That means Centurion 227 also should point at 187 - it looks like Anson!

the only problem I have with this is that 183 also seems to be KGV.

I will put this in 2.599




CobraAus -> RE: KGV Art Problem (6/9/2006 7:54:43 AM)

quote:

the only problem I have with this is that 183 also seems to be KGV.

I just e-mailed
slot 187 should also point to bitmap 187 as well as the others
187 has had a busy time today as it was also mixed up with the Mohawk air problem

Cobra Aus



Hipper -> RE: KGV Art Problem (6/9/2006 9:08:34 AM)

Hi cid It looks like the MK IIc hurricanes that 176 got were special AI equipped ones   (which did exist even if it seems odd)

From the RAF history website http://www.raf.mod.uk/history/h176.html

No.176 Squadron was formed on 14 January 1943 at Dum Dum, Calcutta, with the arrival of a detachment of No.89 Squadron in India from the Middle East. Equipped with eight Beaufighters, it became operational immediately, flying night patrols over the Calcutta area. In May 1943, a second flight was formed with AI-equipped Hurricanes which were replaced by Beaufighters in January 1944. In September 1943, a detachment was based in Ceylon to encounter Japenese reconnaissance aircraft and in January 1944, the squadron began operating over Burma from advanced bases. In August, No.176 moved to southern India but returned to the Burma front in April 1945. Conversion to Mosquitoes began in June and the squadron disbanded on 31 May 1946.



Hipper -> RE: KGV Art Problem (6/9/2006 9:22:08 AM)

They claim that No 176 Squadron was the first to use the IIC in the Far East. Confusingly, this is described as a night fighter unit - which seems odd for a non-night figher aircraft (I guess Japan was not alone operating non-radar planes in that role). This is not an issue in other scenarios because they didn't add the Indian Air Force in a comprehensive way. I allow planes from the time they can be operational. If aircraft were being delivered to the unit in August 1942 that means they theoretically could have begun operations in September.

Ive got to admit it looks like number 4 squadron IAF were not operational in their Hurricanes till early 44

see website for details http://www.indianairforce.nic.in/afsqnmain1.htm

but it is clear that they stated conversion training on Mk IIc's in 1942 and wer issued with them in august 42 . which cetainly implys that they were in general RAF use by then ... The aircraft entered production in early 1941 after all

In my opinion given the number of slots for hurricanes  you might discard the MK 1 (perhaps less than 100 issued in the far east ? ) for the MK IIb present in greater numbers   however deny the Mk IIb a drop tank which were only available in numbers in the far east late in 42    then bring the IIc in (with drop tank) in November 42

so restricting the time that the RAF can go back on the offensive till 1943   which is nicely historical

the forgotten air force mentions the lack of drop tanks, I seen several other mentions in a variety of books

cheers Hipper



JeffroK -> RE: KGV Art Problem (6/9/2006 9:56:55 AM)

The RAF regulary used aircraft in a Night Fighter role (often as intruders) without RADAR/AI in Europe so a similar use in India should be acceptable.

Also, why is it assumed the production of Blenheim I Night Fighter is followed by another Night Fighter? The RAF gets Beaufighters as Night Fighters on a seperate production trail.



CobraAus -> RE: KGV Art Problem (6/9/2006 9:58:35 AM)

V2.59.9 minor upgrade for CVO-RAO-BBO posted on link page

Cobra Aus



Jo van der Pluym -> RE: KGV Art Problem (6/9/2006 1:27:53 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: el cid again


That means Centurion 227


Centurion [&:]


Sorry for asking do you mean the Centurion Tank.



el cid again -> RE: KGV Art Problem (6/10/2006 12:38:22 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jo van der Pluym


quote:

ORIGINAL: el cid again


That means Centurion 227


Centurion [&:]


Sorry for asking do you mean the Centurion Tank.



Sorry. I keep forgetting that not everyone is a naval nut. [I met a Marine who could go on any ship in any navy and talk about every ship ever to have that name in all history - no matter what ship it was. I set out to learn that much about ships!]

Centurion is a WWI era British battleship - still in commission in WWII!
She performed a number of tasks, ultimately being expended as a breakwater at Normandy. [Apparently her engines were in good enough shape to send her places]. The dawn of the Pacific War found her in the Arabian Sea, rebuilt with wood, canvass and aluminum structures to be a visual duplicate of Anson! She appears in RHS as a class - but the ship itself is named Anson - so when she is spotted she is reported as Anson. If she has to fight it will be as Centurion - a bad thing if there is much attacking - she only has light AA weapons! She had yet another mission in the Mideast before this duty. If memory serves - she was an AAA ship in Egypt - which may explain the light AAA weapons.

Turns out the original KGV also should point at art bitmap 187 as well. This is all fixed in RHS 2.599 - the last intended release before 2.60 -
which likely will be tomarrow. We have to calibrate some cargo subs - they are carrying too much just now - because "1 = 10" or something like that.



el cid again -> RE: KGV Art Problem (6/10/2006 12:44:39 AM)

Drop tanks are at this point experimental anyway. Not sure they will be popular at all. they really REDUCE the effectiveness of a plane (I don't think this is understood) - vastly reducing the range to which it carries bombs for example - and / or reducing the amount of bombs carried. It also is not certain they work - there may be a reason they are not in stock or CHS! Time will tell. IF they work- more need to be added - and maybe some deleted. But the Hurricane I seems important and it seems wrong to let it be a II too early.



CobraAus -> RE: KGV Art Problem (6/10/2006 2:18:38 AM)

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Turns out the original KGV also should point at art bitmap 187 as well. This is all fixed in RHS 2.599 - the last intended release before 2.60 -

I checked v2.599 last night and the KGV none of the pointers (including the 3 refits) have changed)

Cobra Aus



Jo van der Pluym -> RE: comments & Guam (6/10/2006 11:53:24 AM)


NE Korps Insulinde(2531) has a delay of 9420801[&:]

And then the following. I am reading a Osprey Book about Guam in 1941 and 1944.

Acoording of this where in 1941 on Guam the following forces:
1. A USMC Co
2. About 400 men Navy for a part armed
3. About 600 Militia for a part armed



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