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Mynok -> RE: Tomozuru a torpedoboat why DD? (6/6/2006 8:50:45 PM)

Fret not. Radar just causes planes to take off and get massacred by Corsairs. Far better off to stay on the ground where you have a chance. [:D]




irishman -> RE: Tomozuru a torpedoboat why DD? (6/6/2006 9:02:43 PM)

But without air search radar, how will my new Aegisaki class destroyers work? [:D]




rtrapasso -> RE: Tomozuru a torpedoboat why DD? (6/6/2006 9:05:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: irishman

But without air search radar, how will my new Aegisaki class destroyers work? [:D]


[:D] [:D] [:D]

Probably they won't work very well...




Ursa MAior -> RE: Tomozuru a torpedoboat why DD? (6/6/2006 9:20:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Terminus

Well no, just the Type 13. Unfortunately, that's the only air search radar the Japs get, so they're pretty much screwed...



Does it apply to games started under 1.801 too?




Terminus -> RE: Tomozuru a torpedoboat why DD? (6/6/2006 9:33:07 PM)

Yep... Apparently Matrix doesn't think this should be fixed, even though it's WRONG on so many and varied levels...




Ursa MAior -> RE: Tomozuru a torpedoboat why DD? (6/6/2006 9:40:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Terminus

Yep... Apparently Matrix doesn't think this should be fixed, even though it's WRONG on so many and varied levels...


I still dont get it. Even though I start a new game under 1.801 the Type 13 eadar wont work?




Terminus -> RE: Tomozuru a torpedoboat why DD? (6/6/2006 9:52:11 PM)

Nope. Nothing's been changed officially. The fix was made independently by michaelm...




Ursa MAior -> RE: Tomozuru a torpedoboat why DD? (6/6/2006 9:53:53 PM)

How and where can I get it?




Feinder -> RE: Tomozuru a torpedoboat why DD? (6/6/2006 10:34:46 PM)

You have to reset the "Pentration" value of the radar in the database. I forget which is which, but it's something like:

1-Surface Radar looking for Aircraft
2-Surface Radar looking for Ships

For Type 13 (or whichever the air radar is), it's set to 2 or whatever.

Open up the DB editor for Scen 15.
Go to the "Devices" tab.
Scroll down until you find "Type 13" radar.
Change the penetration value to whatever you see in CXAM radar (make them the same).
Save.
Start new game.

Only wrinkle is that it might not let you save as Scen 15 (since it's the official scenario). You might need to save as 115 or whatever.

-F-




Ursa MAior -> RE: Tomozuru a torpedoboat why DD? (6/6/2006 10:53:26 PM)

Nice. Well I play with PDU on as IJN so it gives me already a HUGE advantage, so I will change it in a 'full historical' campaign. THX for the info.




pauk -> RE: Tomozuru a torpedoboat why DD? (6/6/2006 11:10:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Terminus

Yep... Apparently Matrix doesn't think this should be fixed, even though it's WRONG on so many and varied levels...



yes, i asking for that since 1.5... but nothing....[:(]




irishman -> RE: Tomozuru a torpedoboat why DD? (6/6/2006 11:51:31 PM)

Is there no way to access the database values for an ongoing game to change this?




Mynok -> RE: Tomozuru a torpedoboat why DD? (6/7/2006 12:12:17 AM)

Mike Wood put a button way back in 1.6 that would update the devices in a game from the scenario file. Have no idea if it would work for this situation, but that's the basic concept of what would be needed.





Nemo121 -> RE: Tomozuru a torpedoboat why DD? (6/7/2006 12:14:21 AM)

Any step by step walkthrough for morons like me? Ship to air radar sounds like a good thing to have ;)




Andrew Brown -> RE: Tomozuru a torpedoboat why DD? (6/7/2006 3:43:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Terminus

Nope. Nothing's been changed officially. The fix was made independently by michaelm...


I also now add the Type 13 radar fix to all scenarios that I convert for my map.

Andrew




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