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panda124c -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 7:17:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker I stand corrected on the Black Pilot, I did not know this. Interesting that this was the case in WWI considering all the discrimination the blacks endured prior to and after WWI. I still bet it is soooo far off the mark historically and is more a chick flick than anything. It was not untill 1994 that the US Airforce reconized Eugene and commisioned him. For Fact vs Fiction in Flyboys see: http://www.mgm.com/flyboys/pdf/real_vs_reel.pdf#search=%22Eugene%20Skinner%20WW1%22

Onime No Kyo -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 7:31:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk Thin Red Line was about war to a degree; it did have battle scenes after all. I just think it was more complex than a let's-go-get-this-paratrooper-home film. It was about the corporate psychology of war, man's role in nature, man's inhumanity to man . . . I'll stop before I hurl. Malik's screenplay/dialogue was the same in Brave New World, that kind of internal monologue where a person is always questioning reality, motivation, etc. So much so that there is never an answer. You either like it or you don't. I don't like it, but at least it's different. Travolta and Nolte as officers wasn't exactly inspired casting either. Ah, in other words...crap. Got it. [img]http://bestsmileys.com/thumbs/7.gif[/img] Actually, I got the point of all that, but it always so silly and pretenteous to me that I doubt that I could actually put into words how much I disliked that movie. What about Clooney as an officer?

Onime No Kyo -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 7:32:19 PM)
Incidentally. I just saw a trailer for a movie called "Flags of our fathers"...I think its the story of the fellow that took the Mt. Suribachi picture. Not a war movie per se, but looked interesting.

Nikademus -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 7:47:55 PM)
best "recent" war movie i saw was "Enemy at the Gates" Unpretentious.....pretty gritty portrayl of life in the Grad....

Onime No Kyo -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 8:03:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nikademus best "recent" war movie i saw was "Enemy at the Gates" Unpretentious.....pretty gritty portrayl of life in the Grad.... Except that most of it is BS.

Nikademus -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 8:21:00 PM)
how so?

Terminus -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 8:22:57 PM)
I don't know about "most" of it. The Germans never sent a super-sniper to hunt for Zaitsev, but other than that...

siRkid -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 8:24:46 PM)
I saw Fly Boys and enjoyed it very much. I went in expecting the action scenes to be way over the top and I don't think they were at all. Now I'll admit I'm no WWI air war expert so the plane types may have been over done but all in all I feel that I got my money’s worth.

siRkid -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 8:38:39 PM)
Pbear posted this in another thread. Check this out http://www.mgm.com/flyboys/pdf/real_vs_reel.pdf#search=%22Eugene%20Skinner%20WW1%22

Nikademus -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 8:39:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Terminus I don't know about "most" of it. The Germans never sent a super-sniper to hunt for Zaitsev, but other than that... Yes, but then i don't consider the movie to be a "historical recreation" of Stalingrad in terms of the great scheme of things. Rather, i thought it was a well made and written movie that gives you a taste of war. Saving Private Ryan is another example (though i didn't warm to it for some reason) Loosely based on historical events, it was more about the drama of war than any real life recreation.

Terminus -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 8:55:37 PM)
Absolutely agree. Enemy at the Gates was an excellent film, though the German "Stalingrad" is better.

Nikademus -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 9:04:33 PM)
Saw that first. (by accident, i was thinking "enemy at the gates" but didn't have the title in my head at the time)

anarchyintheuk -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 9:08:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo quote: ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk Thin Red Line was about war to a degree; it did have battle scenes after all. I just think it was more complex than a let's-go-get-this-paratrooper-home film. It was about the corporate psychology of war, man's role in nature, man's inhumanity to man . . . I'll stop before I hurl. Malik's screenplay/dialogue was the same in Brave New World, that kind of internal monologue where a person is always questioning reality, motivation, etc. So much so that there is never an answer. You either like it or you don't. I don't like it, but at least it's different. Travolta and Nolte as officers wasn't exactly inspired casting either. Ah, in other words...crap. Got it. [img]http://bestsmileys.com/thumbs/7.gif[/img] Actually, I got the point of all that, but it always so silly and pretenteous to me that I doubt that I could actually put into words how much I disliked that movie. What about Clooney as an officer? Forgot about Clooney. I still prefer it about 1k x more than the movie that must not be mentioned. [;)]

Speedysteve -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 9:10:40 PM)
Agreed T and Nik. Liked EATG but Stalingard better. Remember the part where the T34 blows the bloke in half?[X(] Only downer for me was the poor dubbing...........

anarchyintheuk -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 9:12:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Terminus I don't know about "most" of it. The Germans never sent a super-sniper to hunt for Zaitsev, but other than that... I thought they sent their officer in charge of the sniper school, Maj Konig. Is that all bs? Questions such as these are difficult and stressful, perhaps I should go to happy hour.

Demosthenes -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 9:12:52 PM)
Why in the hell would the USAF make him an officer 70 years after the war? For starters - the Lafayette Escadrille was a squadron in the FRENCH air service! Political correctness knows no bounds I guess quote: ORIGINAL: pbear quote: ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker I stand corrected on the Black Pilot, I did not know this. Interesting that this was the case in WWI considering all the discrimination the blacks endured prior to and after WWI. I still bet it is soooo far off the mark historically and is more a chick flick than anything. It was not untill 1994 that the US Airforce reconized Eugene and commisioned him. For Fact vs Fiction in Flyboys see: http://www.mgm.com/flyboys/pdf/real_vs_reel.pdf#search=%22Eugene%20Skinner%20WW1%22

niceguy2005 -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 9:14:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nikademus best "recent" war movie i saw was "Enemy at the Gates" Unpretentious.....pretty gritty portrayl of life in the Grad.... I would agree that it was better than average, same rating I would give to Saving PVT Ryan.

Speedysteve -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 9:15:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk quote: ORIGINAL: Terminus I don't know about "most" of it. The Germans never sent a super-sniper to hunt for Zaitsev, but other than that... I thought they sent their officer in charge of the sniper school, Maj Konig. Is that all bs? Questions such as these are difficult and stressful, perhaps I should go to happy hour. Yup all BS on that part of it. Zaitsev was there but I also believe a large part of his true day to day movements are unknown (correct me if i'm wrong guys)

niceguy2005 -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 9:15:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kid I went in expecting the action scenes to be way over the top and I don't think they were at all. That's the most encouraging news I have heard in a while.

Terminus -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 9:16:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Speedy Agreed T and Nik. Liked EATG but Stalingard better. Remember the part where the T34 blows the bloke in half?[X(] Only downer for me was the poor dubbing........... Learn Ze German, silly Engländer...

Speedysteve -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 9:16:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: niceguy2005 quote: ORIGINAL: Nikademus best "recent" war movie i saw was "Enemy at the Gates" Unpretentious.....pretty gritty portrayl of life in the Grad.... I would agree that it was better than average, same rating I would give to Saving PVT Ryan. I personally think the combat in SPR leaves me giving it 8/10. The first 30 minutes[&o].....to think that occured for hours IRL[X(]

Terminus -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 9:16:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Demosthenes Political correctness knows no bounds I guess You say that like it's some sort of surprise?

Speedysteve -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 9:17:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Terminus quote: ORIGINAL: Speedy Agreed T and Nik. Liked EATG but Stalingard better. Remember the part where the T34 blows the bloke in half?[X(] Only downer for me was the poor dubbing........... Learn Ze German, silly Engländer... Learn English Danish twit.....firstly learn to play WW2 games properly[:'(]

Terminus -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 9:17:32 PM)
[:'(]

Speedysteve -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 9:18:43 PM)
Nincompoop. When are we playing our next game or have you chickened out? The GF banned you?[;)][:'(]

niceguy2005 -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 9:20:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Demosthenes Why in the hell would the USAF make him an officer 70 years after the war? For starters - the Lafayette Escadrille was a squadron in the FRENCH air service! Political correctness knows no bounds I guess Perhaps because he would have been accepted into the ranks, save for his skin color. Better late than never I would say.

Terminus -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 9:21:00 PM)
No time for you, Brit-Boy... More important stuff to take care of...[:'(]

niceguy2005 -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 9:25:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Speedy quote: ORIGINAL: niceguy2005 quote: ORIGINAL: Nikademus best "recent" war movie i saw was "Enemy at the Gates" Unpretentious.....pretty gritty portrayl of life in the Grad.... I would agree that it was better than average, same rating I would give to Saving PVT Ryan. I personally think the combat in SPR leaves me giving it 8/10. The first 30 minutes[&o].....to think that occured for hours IRL[X(] The combat sequences were fantastic/horrific. Scenes in the second half of the movie though left me feeling emotionally manipulated and drops the rating to 6/10. [:-]

Speedysteve -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 9:36:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Terminus No time for you, Brit-Boy... More important stuff to take care of...[:'(] I'll remember this...........

Terminus -> RE: Has Anyone Seen Flyboys Yet? (9/29/2006 9:44:16 PM)
Promises, promises...

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