RE: Nakajima G10N Fugaku (Full Version)

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castor troy -> RE: Nakajima G10N Fugaku (1/1/2007 5:37:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: m10bob

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ORIGINAL: castor troy


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ORIGINAL: el cid again

I was aware of the G10N project - but it could not have produced a plane (on half power 2500 hp engines) before about 1948 - nor a full power version (which was to use engines which were in effect coupled on each shaft)
before about 1950.

Even the Ki-91 - with 4 engines - is a bit late for the war - but it made RHS so you can see that for yourself. [At least it made the 5 more historical mods - it was dropped by EOS in favor of a more aggressive bomber program]
We don't do planes that cannot produce early enough in 1945 to have some impact on the war - and we much prefer planes in earlier years to excessive devotion to 1945 models.

Now if we did a mod starting mid war - that might be different. We could run it out to 1946 - or even later.

Still - I barely believe in 4 engine bombers for Japan - and I think a 6 engine job is a very poor investment. See my public and private debates with Nemo on the subject! If Germany could not make even 60 Me-264s, even admitting Japan did better than Germany relative to the size of its air industry, I don't believe in vast numbers of 4 engine planes - never mind 6 engine ones. And every time you lose one of those - what an investment you have lost = more than 3 fighter planes in WITP terms (and more IRL). [WITP cost = 126 for G10 and 36 for a 1E fighter or 54 for a 2E fighter or bomber]


Didnīt Germany build like 1500 Me 264 and made 300 operational. Rest was destroyed before, not operational or being captured? Only 60 built seems a bit low I think...





Here is the ME 264...

http://www.luft46.com/prototyp/me264.html

Castor Troy..Is it possible you are thinking of the Me 323?
Had the Nazis been able to build 1500, (or even fly 300 ME 264's), certain other English-speaking nations might be speaking German today..[X(]

Actually the numbers you quote seem more correct for the Me 262 Jet fighter/bomber..



Ooops!! [X(][X(] Sorry of course I misread it and ment the Me262. [8|]




el cid again -> RE: Nakajima G10N Fugaku (11/30/2013 4:20:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Terminus


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ORIGINAL: Dili

That happens from time to time. We just have to remember the employment doutrine of the first IFVīs - infantry fighting vehicles in 1960's-70's. All soldiers using firing ports in vehicle and only getting out 100m from objective...even in 80's the M3 Bradley came with firing ports(they are now covered by armor).


What this has to do with mounting 400 machineguns in a six-engined, 122-ton aircraft and intending to use them for strafing escapes me...


This was intended to shoot down bombers from above. It is simply a giant version of escort bombers dating from the same time frame -
- modified as an air defense vehicle rather than an escort - and
it would not have worked very well.




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