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kaleun -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/3/2009 3:17:27 PM)

Second what Goodboyladdie says.
Not all ulcers are caused by bacteria. Stress related ulcers respond to a regime of bland diet (Even including milk) and antacids. Nowadays non Helicobacter related ulcers are treated with H2 Histamine receptor blockers (Like Cimetidine) or Proton pump blockers (like Nexium)
Nakagawa's regime would work if Ishii would follow it.




Shark7 -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/3/2009 5:40:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kaleun

Second what Goodboyladdie says.
Not all ulcers are caused by bacteria. Stress related ulcers respond to a regime of bland diet (Even including milk) and antacids. Nowadays non Helicobacter related ulcers are treated with H2 Histamine receptor blockers (Like Cimetidine) or Proton pump blockers (like Nexium)
Nakagawa's regime would work if Ishii would follow it.



I've had the non-bacterial ulcers as well, but a key componant to treating them is not only reducing the acid, you really need to reduce the stress...and Ishii is not going to do that.

when I did get the ulcer, I was put on an acid reducer and encouraged to take a vacation and relax, which I did.

For anyone who hasn't had an ucler, the pain can be quite bad at times, and eating anything spicy or greasy just makes it worse.




ChezDaJez -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/4/2009 10:58:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: goodboyladdie


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ORIGINAL: Feinder

The assumption of milk for ulcer treatment is because it's a base which would theoretically counter the alkaline of stomach acid.  As indicated, ulcers are bacterial in nature; and also pointed out, this wasn't known in the 1940s.

-F-


Not all ulcers are caused by bacteria. I have had them and there is no bacteria present. Mine are purely stress related and are treated by reducing the amount of stomach acid I produce through diet and medication.



Actually they are still caused by bacteria. What stress does is weaken your immune system. That then allows the bacteria to begin growing and ultimately produce an ulcer. The pain is caused by gastric acids coming into contact with tissues that weren't designed to hold that type of fluid. That's where milk and antacids come in. Milk helps relieve the pain of ulcer perforation by reducing the acidity. It does not treat the ulcer itself. Antibiotics are still the treatment of choice for all types of ulcers including stress related.

Chez




Feinder -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/4/2009 1:41:24 PM)

Kinda like a little gnome in your tummy using his pick-axe to try to escape.

-F-




Cuttlefish -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/6/2009 12:25:36 AM)

November 19, 1944

Location: Tokyo
Course: None
Attached to: Disbanded in port
Mission: None
System Damage: 0
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 475

Orders: None

---

It is nighttime. In the narrow machine space where they sling their hammocks five members of the crew are pursuing various activities before turning in. Shiro, as usual, is sitting on a crate, his back against a bulkhead, carving something from a small piece of wood. Oizuma is changing the water in Benzaiten’s terrarium. Riku and Shoji are sitting cross-legged and playing cards while Yoshitake watches from his hammock and offers occasional unnecessary advice.

Shiro stops carving and sets aside both wood and knife. With his hand he carefully sweeps up stray wood shavings that have dropped to the deck,

“What do you guys think you’ll do after the war?” he asks the other four. There is a pause. It is a question none of them has asked in some time. Early in the war it was a favorite topic of conversation among the men but sometime in the last year it simply stopped being discussed. Somewhere along the line their glorious youthful inability to really believe in the possibility of their own deaths came to an end. It was replaced, slowly, by doubts about whether or not they would survive and then by a growing feeling of fatalism and doom.

Riku folds his cards. Perhaps he discerns that Shiro has intentionally asked this question to get them thinking about living again and to boost their spirits, because he speaks before any of the others has a chance to inject a negative comment.

“I think I will go into business,” he says. “Perhaps some kind of import/export business.”

“You would be good at it,” says Oizuma. Riku’s ability to acquire money is still legend among the crew, despite the fact that he has played things straight for some time now. “You’ll be rich in no time.”

“It isn’t about getting rich,” says Riku. This inspires chuckles from some of the others. “No, really!” he says. “I would not complain about it – I will have six children to feed, remember! – but things in Japan must change after the war, whatever happens. Look at this war we are fighting. We are trying to fight a modern war with an economy that still has one foot in the last century. It is very hard to do. I really think that if Japan is to take her place among the leading nations of the world it must be done financially.”

“I will have to see that we remain in touch,” says Yoshitake. “That way I will never lack for someone to turn to when I need money! Now me, I would like to be an inventor. I like tinkering with engines and things.”

“Ah, a partnership!” says Shoji. “Ariga can finance Yoshitake’s workshop.”

“Of course,” says Riku. “In exchange for a fair share of the profits, naturally.”

“What, eighty percent?” asks Oizuma.

“I would not be greedy,” says Riku modestly. “Seventy percent would be enough.” There is general laughter.

“What about you, Snake Man?” says Yoshitake. “Do you still want to be a veterinarian?”

“A biologist,” says Oizuma. “I think I will return to school for a degree in biology. After that we will see what happens.” Everyone looks at Shoji, who shrugs.

“I don’t really know,” he says. “I want to get married and have a family. Maybe I will join my parents in running the shop.” The others know his parents run a small noodle shop.

“And you, Shiro?” asks Riku.

“I will return to Tendo and become a carpenter,” says Shiro. “I would like to make furniture. It would be pleasant to make beautiful things. And who knows, maybe I really will try to write that book.”

The conversation continues for a while and eventually drifts to other topics before the men turn in. Still, it has been pleasant for them to imagine for a while that there might be a future beyond the war. It is sometimes easy to forget that possibility.





Feinder -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/6/2009 2:01:43 AM)

Maybe Riku and Yoshitake will suggest that the Mitsubishi factories be retooled from making Zeros to compact automobiles.  Sounds like a CEO and Chief Engineer...

[:D]

-F-




kaleun -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/6/2009 4:22:06 AM)

[;)]




bradfordkay -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/6/2009 5:12:06 AM)

I had a Plymouth Colt (Mitsubishi Mirage) some years back... I used to tell people that it was a direct descendant of the Zero fighter. 




vettim89 -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/6/2009 6:00:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

I had a Plymouth Colt (Mitsubishi Mirage) some years back... I used to tell people that it was a direct descendant of the Zero fighter. 


I had a Plymouth Champ (same car I think). Best car I ever owned. Sucker got 50 MPG on the highway - no lie!




DW -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/6/2009 7:26:02 AM)

I had a Datsun 240Z when I was a kid.

I did some reading up on it at the time, I discovered that Datsun was just another name for Nissian.

The article said that Nissian had changed the name because they thought the U.S. might be bitter because of the tanks and other assorted military equipment they had built during the war.

I thought of Japanese tanks and thought to myself... Yea...  It's a good thing you changed your name.  But, not because Americans are bitter, but because they'd think your stuff was junk!  [:)]

It was a good car though.  It screamed.




Cuttlefish -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/6/2009 7:12:04 PM)

November 20, 1944

Location: Tokyo
Course: None
Attached to: Disbanded in port
Mission: None
System Damage: 0
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 475

Orders: None

---

Letter from Shigeaka Handa to Ensign Izu:

1944-nen 11-gatsu 15-nichi
Izu-sama e

I trust that this letter finds you well. With the approach of winter the weather here in Hokkaido has begun to turn cold and the rain has been heavy. I hope that wherever you and your ship are when this reaches you that the weather is more pleasant and that the seas are favorable.

I am writing to inform you of the death of my son, Ensign Handa Tadashi. He was killed in action aboard his ship during the great victory at Iwo Jima. I regret that I can give you no further details, but I know no more than that myself.

My son wrote and spoke of you often and regarded you as his closest friend. It was his wish that you receive the accompanying package in the event of his death. Honoring that wish seems the least I can do for one who shared such friendship and so many adventures with my son. Even after he was transferred to other duty he spoke often of his days aboard Hibiki and it was obvious that he was proud to have served there.

Please feel free to write or visit my wife and I when the war is over. We would enjoy hearing about his time of service from one who knew him so well. Until such time, please take good care of yourself.

Handa Shigeaka


---

Ensign Izu, his throat tight, picks up the accompanying package and carefully removes the heavy paper wrapping. He then opens the box and removes the single item inside, gently shaking it free of the straw in which it was carefully packed. What he is holding is an ensign’s cap. Fastened to the top is the skeleton of a crab, neatly cleaned. The claws are rigged with a clever arrangement of springs and wires and wave at him cheerfully as he holds up the cap.

Unable to help himself, Izu bursts out laughing. He laughs for a long time, laughs until the tears come.





Mike Solli -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/6/2009 7:13:38 PM)

Hey CF, have Ishii's stats changed since the start of the war?  I'm not sure if their stats can chang.




Capt. Harlock -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/6/2009 8:22:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Cuttlefish

What he is holding is an ensign’s cap. Fastened to the top is the skeleton of a crab, neatly cleaned. The claws are rigged with a clever arrangement of springs and wires and wave at him cheerfully as he holds up the cap.




Pranked from beyond the grave . . .[X(]

Yet another inspired entry!




Feinder -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/6/2009 8:37:42 PM)

[:(]

Is that the first death from our favorite crew?  (even as a former crew-member).

-F-




Cuttlefish -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/6/2009 8:59:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

Hey CF, have Ishii's stats changed since the start of the war?  I'm not sure if their stats can chang.


I'm not sure either. Ishii's stats have never changed, though, so I am guessing that the answer is that they don't.

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ORIGINAL: Feinder

Is that the first death from our favorite crew? (even as a former crew-member).


The first death of a named character, yes. Hibiki did suffer 14 KIA during the two bomb hits back in 1942.




FeurerKrieg -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/6/2009 9:48:21 PM)

Stats do indeed change. I've been using WITPDecoder on my turns for from Dec 7, 41 through Feb 6, 43, and everyday a few leader stats increase by 1.

I would guess that WITPTracker shows the same info.




Feinder -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/6/2009 11:25:02 PM)

Was it Mutsu that Handa got transferred to?  Was he the one that got burned?  Sorry, I have a little trouble keeping track of everyone.

-F-




Mynok -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/6/2009 11:49:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: vettim89


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ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

I had a Plymouth Colt (Mitsubishi Mirage) some years back... I used to tell people that it was a direct descendant of the Zero fighter. 


I had a Plymouth Champ (same car I think). Best car I ever owned. Sucker got 50 MPG on the highway - no lie!


Did it stop getting good mileage after five months? [8|][:'(]




Onime No Kyo -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/7/2009 12:02:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: vettim89


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ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

I had a Plymouth Colt (Mitsubishi Mirage) some years back... I used to tell people that it was a direct descendant of the Zero fighter. 


I had a Plymouth Champ (same car I think). Best car I ever owned. Sucker got 50 MPG on the highway - no lie!


I had an actual Mirage. Loved it. Drove the wheels off of it as only a dumb@ss 16 year old can. [:D]


In fact, my first 3 cars were Mitsus. [&o]




ColFrost -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/7/2009 12:04:21 AM)

No, I believe that was someone else who got burned, someone's brother. But Handa did get transferred to a BB.




Cuttlefish -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/7/2009 12:08:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Feinder

Was it Mutsu that Handa got transferred to?  Was he the one that got burned?  Sorry, I have a little trouble keeping track of everyone.


No need to apologize, even I have trouble sometimes keeping everything straight. Ensign Handa was transferred to Musashi. It is Taiki's brother Noboru who serves aboard Mutsu and was burned in an attack off Wake back in '42.

See this post for Handa's departure from Hibiki; see this post for what makes Handa's final gift especially significant.




Onime No Kyo -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/7/2009 12:10:43 AM)

Wow, that was a powerful moment, CF! [X(]



[&o][&o][&o]




Cuttlefish -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/7/2009 12:11:12 AM)

November 21, 1944

Location: Tokyo
Course: None
Attached to: Disbanded in port
Mission: None
System Damage: 0
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 475

Orders: None

---

“I am sorry, honored sir,” says the proprietor of the shop. “I have no more to sell. No one in Tokyo does. Our supply came from England, as you know, and even with the large amounts captured earlier in the war there is no more to be had,”

Lieutenant Sakati practically reels. He grips the edge of the counter.

“No scotch,” he says, as if unable to comprehend such a thing. “No scotch!”

The proprietor looks distinctly unhappy. “I am terribly sorry,” he says. “It shames me greatly to have to report such news.” Sakati looks at him and makes an effort to pull himself together.

“We must all make sacrifices in wartime,” he admits sadly. “Very well, I will take two bottles of whiskey. Tullamore or Jameson would be fine.” The merchant shakes his head sadly.

“Nothing would please me more than to accommodate your request,” he says, “but sadly this worthless one is unable to do so.”

“All right, Bushmills, then!” says Sakati with exasperation. “Any port in a storm, eh?” If anything the proprietors face grows even longer. Sakati makes an exasperated noise and peers behind the man at the sparse collection of bottles visible on the shelves behind him.

“What’s that one?” he says, pointing at a dusty bottle. The proprietor brightens and, taking it down, holds it forth so Sakati can see the label.

“It is ‘Elderly Grandfather’ whiskey,” he says. “From America!” Sakati shudders and steps back.

“Take it away!” he says. “I am not that desperate!” In the end Hibiki’s chief engineer leaves with several bottles of sake. Even these are not premium quality and as he trudges through the rain-slicked streets back to the ship Sakati reflects glumly that it isn’t a shortage of steel, oil, or rubber that will mean the downfall of Japan. It will be the shortage of good liquor.

---

Historical Note #1: Sakati is not alone in his love of scotch. Thanks to the heavy Royal Navy influence on the IJN scotch was the drink of choice for many Japanese naval officers of the time.

Historical Note #2: It should be noted, for fans of American bourbon and whiskey, that almost all American brands of these drinks produced between the end of Prohibition in 1933 and the beginning of World War II were of notably vile quality.





Hornblower -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/7/2009 4:11:45 AM)

excellent read




Marc gto -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/7/2009 7:17:28 AM)

poor jack daniels




bradfordkay -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/7/2009 8:33:35 AM)

For those who love their scotch or even, <shudder>, irish whiskey, bourbon comes across as far too sweet. I can understand Sakati's reaction... 




Mynok -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/7/2009 2:26:51 PM)


Agreed. It's good for cooking though....




tocaff -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/7/2009 2:34:58 PM)

A real drinker wouldn't be so picky so I'm thinking that we have a man who enjoys his booze, but doesn't swim in it.  A lousy, vile whiskey goes down easier with each swallow.  [;)]




Marc gto -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/7/2009 6:47:42 PM)

lol todd what would you know of good whiskey lol...do you still get that down there?




Capt. Harlock -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (1/7/2009 8:22:00 PM)

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Historical Note #2: It should be noted, for fans of American bourbon and whiskey, that almost all American brands of these drinks produced between the end of Prohibition in 1933 and the beginning of World War II were of notably vile quality.


An interesting note. That may explain why Andy Rooney developed his fondness for bourbon after he joined the Army.




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