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histgamer -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/25/2008 9:14:21 AM)

Tupolev that wasnt Cuttlefish who said that. we have no clue how many 90 skilled avaitors cuttlefish actually has. We just know that the KB has kicked the ass of the allies in every single engagment thus far without taking to heavy of losses apparently in terms of planes so its reasonable to assume he has high experanced pilots. How high... no way to tell unless he tells us.[:D]




Cuttlefish -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/25/2008 10:31:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Tupolev


But I'm just wondering how you get so many skill-90 pilots at this late stage of the war. Can you get them with regular naval air combat ops and careful management or do you need a special training program for them too?



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ORIGINAL: flanyboy

Tupolev that wasnt Cuttlefish who said that. we have no clue how many 90 skilled avaitors cuttlefish actually has. We just know that the KB has kicked the ass of the allies in every single engagment thus far without taking to heavy of losses apparently in terms of planes so its reasonable to assume he has high experanced pilots. How high... no way to tell unless he tells us.[:D]


And this being the kind of AAR it is, you won't be seeing that kind of specific information. Speaking generally though, Tupolev, I will say that when playing Japan I never use any kind of training program or tricks for my carrier pilots. I hoard the naval pilot replacement pool for the almost exclusive use of my carriers and I try to avoid head-on engagements that will cost me a lot of pilots. In general I try to use Kido Butai as a rapier, not a sledge hammer.

I'm not exactly an expert; this game was my third PBEM , which on the Japanese side I think still qualifies me as a novice. I've since started a fourth, which is in early '43. If you want to see what can be done with Japanese carriers check out Pauk or Pzb's AARs, or for a recent inspiring example what Honda just accomplished in his game against Raverdave.




Tupolev -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/25/2008 1:32:04 PM)


Thanks for the reply, Cuttlefish. Your pilot management skills must be awesome nonetheless.

Seeing as you're still very much in control of the overall military situation in late 1943 (!) I think when the war is finally over (won) and if you're up to it, perhaps you could provide a summary of some of the major naval battles. I for one believe there's plenty to be learned from your experience, and of course it'll be a very juicy read [:)]




HMS Resolution -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/25/2008 9:25:58 PM)

I predict Japanese victory; nothing else seems likely, given the current progression of events.




histgamer -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/26/2008 1:22:47 AM)

Maybe the USA will deploy the tactical nuke on torpedo's and whipe out the KB that way.[:D]




Cuttlefish -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/26/2008 1:38:47 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Tupolev

Seeing as you're still very much in control of the overall military situation in late 1943 (!) I think when the war is finally over (won) and if you're up to it, perhaps you could provide a summary of some of the major naval battles. I for one believe there's plenty to be learned from your experience, and of course it'll be a very juicy read [:)]


Once the AAR is over I am planning to do a complete recap of the game from the player's perspective.




Cuttlefish -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/26/2008 1:38:58 AM)

November 8, 1943

Location: Kwajalein
Course: None
Attached to: TF 4
Mission: Air Combat
System Damage: 1
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 444

Orders: Await further orders

---

Captain Ishii comes back aboard following a visit ashore. Shortly afterwards he calls his officers into a brief meeting in the officer’s wardroom. Once everyone is settled in he comes quickly to the point.

“The enemy has a great many ships at Noumea,” he says. “Reconnaissance photographs show a lot of transports there. There are enemy surface forces near Efate, and our positions there have been under almost constant air attack for the last two days. It seems almost certain that Efate will be invaded soon. Our fleet will head south before dawn tomorrow in an effort to meet and smash this invasion.”

There is a stir among the officers. “Excuse me, sir,” says Lieutenant Miharu. “Do you know why? I thought we had already largely evacuated the place and conceded it to the enemy.”

Captain Ishii taps a finger on the table, thinking. Then he looks up at the assembled officers.

“What I am about to say does not leave this room,” he says. “I should not even know it, but Admiral Ozawa does not believe in leaving his men in the dark. Am I clear?” There are nods and a chorus of “yes sirs” from around the table.

“Naval intelligence has been able to put together an idea of the size of the enemy fleet,” he says. “It is a force of formidable size. We do not care whether we lose the island or not, but we do care about that fleet. The fact is, gentlemen, that they have more ships than we do. More carriers, more battleships, more of everything.”

Lieutenant Sugiyura makes a scoffing noise. “How could they have so many ships?” he says. “Especially with the losses we have inflicted on them?”

“I do not know,” says Ishii. “Most of the British fleet is there as well, we know that. As for the rest, Admiral Yamamoto and the rest of the Navy seems to believe the reports.” Even Sugiyura looks dismayed at this.

“There are two factors at work here, gentlemen,” Ishii says. “First, there is a peace proposal in the hands of the Americans and British even as we speak. If accepted, it would guarantee the safety and power of Japan for the foreseeable future.” At this even the usually quiet Sakati looks up, eyes intent. “The second factor,” Ishii continues, “is this. The enemy is adding new ships with terrifying speed. If we do not face and defeat them now, we may lose the chance to do so.” There is silence as the assembled officers absorb this.

“There you have it,” says Ishii. “If we win a convincing victory it may well end the war. If we fail the war shall continue and likely become a desperate one for us indeed. I am not one for giving speeches, you all know that. But the battle before us will indeed be the decisive battle. I know that I can count on each of you to do his duty to the utmost. For the Emperor, for our national essence, for all of Japan, we must not fail.”

Lieutenant, Kuwaki slowly pushes back his chair and stands. “Sir,” he says, “your words fill me with resolve. We will not let you down, sir.” The other officers also stand.

“I know you won’t,” says Ishii. He looks around the table. “That is all. Let’s get this ship ready to sail.”





Fishbed -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/26/2008 2:20:58 AM)

Wow, there's a Mother Of All Battles on the way!




Capt. Harlock -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/26/2008 10:42:02 PM)

Looks like this war's version of the Battle of the Philippine Sea will take place in '43 instead of '44. A possibly vital point: what kind of fighters do the British CV's have in their hangers? We'll find out . . .




Terminus -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/27/2008 12:24:13 AM)

Seafires and Martlets, most likely...




tocaff -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/27/2008 12:58:15 AM)

Could this be the end of the beginning or the beginning of the end?




rtrapasso -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/27/2008 4:04:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tocaff

Could this be the end of the beginning or the beginning of the end?

Yes. Yes it could. [:'(]




Feinder -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/27/2008 6:07:14 PM)

Must...

Have...

Hibiki...

Fix...!

[sm=Christo_pull_hair.gif]

-F-




HMS Resolution -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/27/2008 8:29:04 PM)

The framing of this seems almost like the lead-up to Gettysburg.

Still think the IJN will win.




Cuttlefish -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/28/2008 12:41:30 AM)

November 9, 1943

Location: Kwajalein
Course: None
Attached to: TF 4
Mission: Air Combat
System Damage: 1
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 441

Orders: Engage enemy forces attacking the New Hebrides

---

Although the Allied buildup at Noumea continues, there is as yet no sign of an invasion at Efate or anywhere else. The Japanese departure from Kwajalein is thus postponed by one day to allow time for last-minute preparations and repairs.

The huge atoll swarms with boats large and small ferrying supplies and personnel to and from ships. Aboard Hibiki men take advantage of the delay to write a last letter or two, get in a final drink ashore, or just get a little extra rest. It does not seem likely to anyone that the next couple of weeks will allow many chances to rest and relax.





Cuttlefish -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/28/2008 12:43:19 AM)

November 10, 1943

Location: 60 miles northwest of Jaluit
Course: South
Attached to: TF 4
Mission: Air Combat
System Damage: 1
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 443

Orders: Engage enemy forces attacking the New Hebrides

---

Torpedomen Kinsei, Chuyo, and Hosogaya are standing by the forward torpedo mount. As the sun comes up it reveals an ocean covered with Japanese warships, all heading south.

“It is an inspiring sight,” says Kinsei, looking out across the water. Hosogaya nods.

“You know what else would be an inspiring sight?” asks Chuyo.

“Downtown Tokyo on a Friday night,” says Hosogaya promptly.

Chuyo looks at him. “How did you know I was going to say that?” he asks.

“Because you’ve said it before,” laughs Hosogaya. ”About twelve times. I’m afraid we’re going in the wrong direction to reach Tokyo, my friend.”

“Look on the bright side,” says Kinsei. “Maybe we’ll finally be able to put our training to use.” He reaches up and pats the curved metal of the nearest tube.

“Not much chance of that,” says Chuyo. “This is going to be a carrier battle. If the enemy doesn’t run away again, that is.”

“Hey, you never know,” says Kinsei. “I was talking to some of the old hands. They said we were nearly intercepted by battleships once while escorting carriers near Timor.”

Hosogaya nods. “I heard the same,” he says. “That’s the thing about war, it is never predictable. Who knows what may happen?”

“Speaks the veteran of zero battles!” scoffs Chuyo.

“Well, then, that is why I do not know what may happen,” says Hosogaya. Chuyo searches for an answer to this but does not find one, so he shrugs in acknowledgement and remains silent.

“Well, let’s stop jawing and get busy,” says Kinsei. “Besides, I thought I heard Shun a moment ago.”

“Then we are perfectly safe,” chuckles Chuyo. “If you think you hear him, he is nowhere around. If you do not hear him, he is right behind you.”

Kinsei turns nervously and looks behind him, but there is no one there. The other two laugh, and even Kinsei smiles. Then the three men get to work.





Durbik -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/28/2008 1:10:40 AM)

Does it sound like good ol' naval clash prophecy to you too?




histgamer -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/28/2008 5:07:03 AM)

hhahaha i love the shun comment.[:D]




AU Tiger_MatrixForum -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/28/2008 6:27:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: flanyboy

One could aruge tactically Sharpsburg was a victory of the south seeing as the Union attacked and didn't drive the CSA from the field. Lee even held his ground the following day without the Union attacking, though that was due to McClellan's own confidence problem. Though without making this a civil war topic I will say that McClellan was prolly the best union army commander when it came to battlefield tactics, not once did lee ever catch his army with its pants down. If he just had the ability of Grant to see his army take heavy losses he woulda won the war in 62. No other union commander prolly could have done that because the CSA was strong enough to take heavy losses in 62 and replace them, Grant wouldnt have won it then.

Well when i say win it i mean take richmond. you can debate if in 62 that would have lead to the end of the war or not.



With "Little Mac" remaining in command, Richmond in 1962 is certainly plausible.

IMO CF made another sly comparison to the War of Northern Aggression. The editorial read a little while back concerning the Americans cannot win, and the Japs will not give up smacks of a lot of the Confederate diplomacy earlier in the war, ie. July '63 and earlier.


EDIT:
Dang! I should have delayed my catch-up reading for another week or so. Now I am on pins and needles.




AcePylut -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/28/2008 6:44:26 AM)

We prefer to call it the War of Southern Rebellion.




bobogoboom -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/28/2008 6:15:19 PM)

you call it wrong.[:'(]




rtrapasso -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/28/2008 8:13:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bobogoboom

you call it wrong.[:'(]


War of Southern Aggression?? [:'(]




Terminus -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/28/2008 8:15:30 PM)

Unfounded Irrational Northward Aggressive Movement By Illegally Declared Non-National Entity?




bobogoboom -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/28/2008 8:41:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso


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ORIGINAL: bobogoboom

you call it wrong.[:'(]


War of Southern Aggression?? [:'(]

i was gonna call it the rednecks war[:'(]




1275psi -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/28/2008 10:11:40 PM)

This is so bad. I keep logging on to update my own AARs -only to end up here desperate to hear what happens next!

I put my money on the following..............
Huge CV clash
japan wins
Hibiki gets to engage in following surface engagement, and finally gets to use her tubes.
Hibiki gets sunk.........................




Capt. Harlock -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/28/2008 10:23:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Terminus

Seafires and Martlets, most likely...


Or maybe not. If memory serves, the Hellcat II and the Corsair IV are both available at this point.




histgamer -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/28/2008 10:28:34 PM)

Hmm what does it make me if I love Lee and Longstreet... (not jackson so much) and Love Winfield Scott Hancock (and his 2nd corps) as well as the Iron Brigade (im a wisconsin boy).

What should i call the war then?[&:]




Ol_Dog -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/28/2008 11:17:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: flanyboy

What should i call the war then?[&:]



A Glorious American Tragedy





ny59giants -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/28/2008 11:41:10 PM)

I think we need a bookie to take odds on which six hour period (matrix time) that the "Mother of all Battles" is actually posted in this AAR. Right now I feel like I am back in the military...hurry up and wait. [:D]

We get this little bites and pieces of the ships moving towards each other, but nothing yet. The suspense wouldn't be so bad if CF's opponent had his own AAR. [;)]




Terminus -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (2/28/2008 11:43:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock


quote:

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Seafires and Martlets, most likely...


Or maybe not. If memory serves, the Hellcat II and the Corsair IV are both available at this point.


Isn't it 10/43? If so, they're not there yet.




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