Effective use of AV, AVD, AS, etc

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AHFlattop -> Effective use of AV, AVD, AS, etc (2/16/2007 2:31:07 AM)
Being new to WITP, I was wondering what the most effective role is for all the various tenders each side gets besides targets. I assume the tenders are forward replenishment ships for each specialized type of ship, torpedoes for destroyers and subs and so on. What about the Allied AV, AVDs?? The allies don't start with much in the way of seaplanes. Can the seaplanes from the damaged battleships be off-loaded and supported by the tenders? What is the use of AEs in the game. Thanks

VSWG -> RE: Effective use of AV, AVD, AS, etc (2/16/2007 2:40:24 AM)
Allied seaplane tenders add aviation support for float planes to a base with sufficient supplies. Ships can replenish small caliber ammo from AEs. For more info see chapter 14.2.1 of the manual.

swainscheps -> RE: Effective use of AV, AVD, AS, etc (2/16/2007 3:37:55 AM)
The manual seems pretty vague. So, say you want to make Tulagi into a seaplane base. Once captured, you load the port up with supplies, then you park a tender in that hex(?) Does it need to be docked? or can it be undocked? Does it have to belong to a specific type of task force to perform its duties?

John 3rd -> RE: Effective use of AV, AVD, AS, etc (2/16/2007 3:56:06 AM)
Get used to that answer---'the manual seems pretty vague!' [8D] You can do whatever you want with the AS-AD-AR-AV-MLE. They can be docked. I always disband them in a port and then they automatically do their thing.

niceguy2005 -> RE: Effective use of AV, AVD, AS, etc (2/16/2007 4:03:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: swainscheps The manual seems pretty vague. So, say you want to make Tulagi into a seaplane base. Once captured, you load the port up with supplies, then you park a tender in that hex(?) Does it need to be docked? or can it be undocked? Does it have to belong to a specific type of task force to perform its duties? Yes, but be careful with the AV and AVD. They also make great forward targets. Truth be told I find AV of limited use, AVD as well. AVD can also double as escorts in areas that are mostly secure. Their crews aren't very good though so as actual fighting ships they are poor (although I did once break up a landing at Jessleton with one lone AVD). AR, AD, AS are all invaluable and I always convert many AK to them. AD and AS are absolutely needed at forward bases to rearm DD and Subs. AR are mostly useful at large ports and ports with repair facilities. MLE and AGP are also useful, but they aren't really needed in great quantity. Edit: add AE's to that last group also. They are quite handy for reloading your heavy gun ammo at smaller ports. Useful for extended operations. They also can simply be used to transport cargo.

bradfordkay -> RE: Effective use of AV, AVD, AS, etc (2/16/2007 6:27:29 AM)
AV and AVD come in handy in bases where you have one of the smaller base forces as they provide aviation support (for seaplanes) above and beyond the amount of air support that the base force has. The base force's aviation support can be used to keep a squadron of fighters up and running, while the AV provides the aviation support for the search planes.

MarcA -> RE: Effective use of AV, AVD, AS, etc (2/16/2007 4:04:04 PM)
Split your AS's between your main sub repair ports, 2 AS per port maximum, and bases you want to use for sub re-armement. Subs need a size 8 port to reload torps but can do so from any port with sufficient suppliy with an AS present. Note, subs can refuel anywhere, they just can't re-arm anywhere. Keep your AD's and AR's at you main repair bases, 2 and 4 maximum respectively.

niceguy2005 -> RE: Effective use of AV, AVD, AS, etc (2/16/2007 6:28:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mantill Split your AS's between your main sub repair ports, 2 AS per port maximum, and bases you want to use for sub re-armement. Subs need a size 8 port to reload torps but can do so from any port with sufficient suppliy with an AS present. Note, subs can refuel anywhere, they just can't re-arm anywhere. Keep your AD's and AR's at you main repair bases, 2 and 4 maximum respectively. Agreed except you are going to want to send a few AD forward to rearm your DDs with torps. In my PBEM I have used DD squadrons heavily in surface combat and the torps are invaluable.

FAdmiral -> RE: Effective use of AV, AVD, AS, etc (2/16/2007 9:36:58 PM)
Is there a listing somewhere (don't see it in the manual) of what all these ships with the letters mean (AS,AV,AVD,etc.) and exactly what they do. I have looked for it but haven't found it yet. I thought the old Langley was a carrier but the game says otherwise. Whats it purpose in the game??? JIM

Nikademus -> RE: Effective use of AV, AVD, AS, etc (2/16/2007 9:50:49 PM)
the abreviations are actually in the manual.

niceguy2005 -> RE: Effective use of AV, AVD, AS, etc (2/16/2007 9:56:32 PM)
Might be in an appendix.

wwengr -> RE: Effective use of AV, AVD, AS, etc (2/17/2007 4:54:36 PM)
See Appendix A - 19.1.2 Military Abbreviations. (page 208 of the ebook manual) AD – DESTROYER TENDER AE – AMMUNITION AG – COLLIER AGC – AMPHIBIOUS FORCE COMMAND AGP – PT BOAT TENDER AK – CARGO AO – OILER AP – TROOP TRANSPORT APD – HIGH SPEED TRANSPORT (CONVERTED DESTROYER) AR – REPAIR AS – SUBMARINE TENDER AV – SEAPLANE TENDER AVD – SEAPLANE TENDER DESTROYER BB – BATTLESHIP BC – BATTLE CRUISER CA – HEAVY CRUISER CL – LIGHT CRUISER CLAA – LIGHT CRUISER, ANTI AIRCRAFT CS – SCOUT CRUISER CV – AIRCRAFT CARRIER CVE – ESCORT CARRIER CVL – AIRCRAFT CARRIER LIGHT DD – DESTROYER DE – DESTROYER ESCORT DM – DESTROYER (MINELAYER) DMS – DESTROYER MINE SWEEPER (OR HIGH SPEED MINE SWEEPER) LCI – LANDING CRAFT (INFANTRY) LCM – LANDING CRAFT (MECHANIZED) LCT – LANDING CRAFT, TANK LCVP – LANDING CRAFT (VEHICLE PERSONNEL) LSD – LANDING SHIP (DOCK) LST – LANDING SHIP (TANK) ML – MINE LAYER MLE – MINE LAYER TENDER MSW – MINE SWEEPER PC – PATROL COASTAL – OR SUBMARINE CHASER (173’) PG – PATROL GUNBOAT PT – PATROL TORPEDO BOAT SC – SUB CHASER (110') SS - SUBMARINE TK - TANKER

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