How to mess up japan, course 101 BigB Mod vs Aztez

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Rob Brennan UK -> How to mess up japan, course 101 BigB Mod vs Aztez (3/18/2007 10:29:48 PM)
Righty ho. turn done and sent to Aztez . Japans initial invasions will be :- PI linguyan Naga cagayan Davao Jolo No messing about with the smaller traditional NE bases .. cagayan to clarke before he can evac the north would be nice. Malaya Mersing Khota baru Para drop on victoria point Mersing to attempt to cut mayala in 1/2 . Khota baru for the airfield DEI Amboina covered by a CVE that NW base on borneo (terrible memory) just the 2 for now SW PAC just one small base north of rabaul for a level 1 AF. I find that the troops in truk cannot take rabaul against good play. so no point trying yet. Central Pac Wake .. bumped up the invasion by 2 naval guard Tarawa (small units) So nothing major or abusing the 1st turn move system as far as i can tell . KB will strke sngapore ! why ? well i find that POW and repulse can be a real pain for the DEI advance. ALso means i have the CV's on hand where i want them most and DEI is a priority target along with malaya. I'd have liked to have tried a central pacific advance but it's just way too risky for me. so so many things to go wrong and so so many daft dispositions. china is a royal mess. i'm going to try and clear out the chinese behind my lines 1st while holding the front defensively untill i can muster enough force and have a safe rear area. There are some really interesting new cities in china ( will screenie later). 1st impressions of playing japan for the first time is rather daunting to say the least. I have tinkered with japanese production for the obvious tasks i.e convert nate-oscar. increace zeros a bit and reset recons a/c to dinah's. with the Pete being a float fighter now it's not a given to convert them over utomatically, the LR cap ability could be massively useful in deterring unescorted strikes. Time will tell so i am still producing the full range of float planes for now. Transport a/c will consolidate down to tabbys and L3Y's. I have kept open the hickory production as i believe japan needs 36 at least to allow reinforcemnets to arrive later on. Hant done anything with ship production as turn 1 does not seem to allow me to tinker with that for now. however shinano will be stopped and 3 CV's accelerated. The rest will looked at in a few game weeks as there is so much to try and do at the start. anyhoo, we are running the the following house rules :- House rules 1. Only 1 port strike on turn one. 2. The maxium number of ships at ASW TF is 6. 3. Minium altitude for 4E bombers on naval assault is 15 000 feet. 4. No changing HQ units in order to save PP. 5. PP must be paid for Manchuko and Chinese units in order operate out of their theatres. 6. Maxium number of operational aircraft on non atoll base: level x 50 7. Maxium number of operational aircraft on atoll base: level x 20 (Truk and Kwaleijin will go into x50 rule) 8. Maxium of 8 CV's in an hex. (4 CV's + 4 CVL/CVE ships) 9. If Japanese go for USSR than the Soviets need to be activated 7 turns before the assault. 10. When transfering aircraft long ranged bombers need to be on standby orders. This does not apply to fighters. 11. Only base hexes can be targeted on amphibitious invasions. 12. Pursue command in ground combat is banned for both sides All seem to be sensible ones and any issues that crop up can be sorted out between us in an amicable manner. ust remember to ask him about ariel mining , just noticed its not on the list. I got so engrossed spending 5+ hours doing turn 1 that i forgot to take any screenies , sorry. fingers crossed for turn 1 !

LittleJoe -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/18/2007 10:46:00 PM)
Having KB in the DEI also gives his Cv's around Pearl Harbour a free reign to interfer with your Wake operation in particular, just an observation. Somthing that i've always wanted to try with Japan, is to place the Kido Butai imbeteewn the West coast and PH would cause a lot of disruption to the Allied buildup and a chance to sink a few divisions worth of troops and maybe some warships. You can crush the Allies in the DEI with land based air, but in the pacific the Carrier is king. Good luck.

Cpt Sherwood -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/18/2007 11:48:42 PM)
What senario are you playing?

ny59giants -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/19/2007 1:50:39 AM)
Good to hear Rob!![:D][:D] Once I can afford a newer computer, I will join you and try my luck with the "dark side" in a PBEM. [&o][&o] I will use your AAR of what "not" to do....LOL!!![sm=00000289.gif][sm=00000280.gif][sm=00000289.gif]

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/19/2007 2:06:53 AM)
Hi all .. Cpt Sherwood .. my mistake we are playing Big B's mod which neither of us have even tried before and we havnt looked at the enemys startup either so its a real FOW .. Little joe .. wake fell ! and the combat ships are running at full speed back to kwajelien just in case his CV's come calling . i felt the KB in the DEI will speed up things a lot. and stop annoying allied SC forces from interfering too much. NY59Giants . good luck with the new puter, its a whole new ball game playing as japan .. really nail biting if im honest. Brief update as i don't have time tonight to do a full one (tomorrow for that). POW sunk Repulse sunk and absolutely no torpedoes were launched from the KB kates over 2 days [&:]. thank god for the 800kg bomb ! all invasions happened bar one near rabaul (failed to load). more tomorrow ..

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/19/2007 6:59:48 PM)
Okay here is some more turn one details:- Malaya Kohta baru airfileds Were targeted with little or no result from the japanese indo china based bomber force. 18th Division landed here with little incident and will shock attack next turn to try and quickly get the base. A large aviabion regiment awaits at bangkok with shipping for transfer across the straights. Giamond harbour had a lucky escape when most of 1st parar landed and assulted the base at 3-1 odds. Ground combat at Victoria Point Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 521 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 25 Defending force 684 troops, 6 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1 Japanese max assault: 44 - adjusted assault: 21 Allied max defense: 1 - adjusted defense: 7 Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 3) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0 Allied ground losses: 1 casualties reported Guns lost 1 2nd para will load on the tabbys and fly in tomorow to try and secure this useful northern base. 2 japanese divisions will march on burma , and will take tavoy/moulmein and possibly rangoon. before we can move up men from malaya for an approach to mandalay and sea invasion of akyab. After that its the burma army's job to close the burma road and delay allied attacks in depth if possible. I was thinking about an indian adventure but i see that india now has additional home defence units and would be a tougher prospect (although i have no idea what these home defenders are like). anyway taking india is for a much more experienced japanese player than I to try and accomplish. and i salute all those who have done it. The landings at mersing have gon off well, despite lots of small allied raids the worst of which was 2 wildebeest attacking the BB Kongo (missed). Leaky CAP form KB and a few ineffective petes did little but maul the occasional blenhiem. Again shock attack ordered here and with 3 tank units 2 brigades and a full inf devision along with heavy artillery we are poised to cut singapore off from the rest of mayaly (fingers crossed). KB attacks on singapore :- Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 9 D3A Val x 135 B5N Kate x 143 Allied aircraft Buffalo I x 9 Japanese aircraft losses D3A Val: 11 destroyed, 52 damaged B5N Kate: 4 destroyed, 15 damaged Allied aircraft losses Buffalo I: 11 destroyed Catalina I: 1 destroyed Vildebeest IV: 7 destroyed useful Swordfish: 1 destroyed Allied Ships BC Repulse, Bomb hits 21, on fire, heavy damage BB Prince of Wales, Bomb hits 18, on fire, heavy damage DD Encounter, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Stronghold, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Allied ground losses: 42 casualties reported Airbase hits 18 Airbase supply hits 4 Runway hits 41 no torpedeo hits at all, makes kate flak losses alot less and n the end torps arent required. day 2 attacks Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 18 D3A Val x 118 B5N Kate x 129 Allied aircraft Buffalo I x 5 Japanese aircraft losses D3A Val: 7 destroyed, 25 damaged B5N Kate: 3 destroyed, 15 damaged Allied aircraft losses Buffalo I: 6 destroyed Blenheim IV: 3 destroyed Swordfish: 2 destroyed Vildebeest IV: 2 destroyed Allied Ships BB Prince of Wales, Bomb hits 13, on fire, heavy damage SUNK BC Repulse, Bomb hits 13, on fire, heavy damage SUNK CL Mauritius, Bomb hits 1, on fire DD Jupiter, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage DD Stronghold, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Allied ground losses: 39 casualties reported Airbase hits 9 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 72 Port hits 6 Port supply hits 1 again no torpedo attacks , most strange .. still kate losses are quite acceptable. Tomorrow KB is to hoover up the java sea then see if the allies send in ships to amboina or return to singapore (possibly split and do both). and ensure NOTHING gets to help singapore and equally nothing gets out ! .. need to bag those troops. the tankers should be in saigin by then so they can keep the CV's near malaya at sea almost indefinately. the southern 1/2 can easily re-fuel at Palau. The nells at saigon were also on port attack singapore, wish i hadnt bothered as both days were a complete poinless waste of time and effort. both attacks identical. i had upped the altitude to 20k ft where i though they could not launch torpedos .. some few still did [:@] Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 25 G3M Nell x 92 Japanese aircraft losses G3M Nell: 12 damaged Allied Ships BB Prince of Wales, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Port hits 1 annoying .. you'd have thought that the experince and numbers would have done more .. Philipines is a straight forward divide and conquoror strategy // san marcelano to clarke at speed to cut off the northerern PI units for later. 2 divisions should have landed at legaspi and naga in the south. only the naga landings happened, the legaspi convoy will unload tomorow. shame as i was hopeing to trap the legaspi infantry/base units there but it appears they can escape now. no biggie. Naga looks 2 well defended for one division to take on its own. will await the new one then advance on manilla. Davao/san marcelano/jolo amboina will all be attacked tomorrow. jolo and amboina have AV support with them so can fly in planes soon and close down the PI escape routes. Baby KB to be assembled in formosa. is to be used to initially hit fleeing british/american ships then cover the less threatened landings on borneo/sulawesi. Hong kong looks tough. :- Ground combat at Hong Kong Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 31596 troops, 325 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 540 Defending force 13261 troops, 122 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 233 Japanese max assault: 704 - adjusted assault: 468 Allied max defense: 256 - adjusted defense: 1501 Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 8) Japanese ground losses: 337 casualties reported Guns lost 12 Vehicles lost 2 Allied ground losses: 245 casualties reported Guns lost 14 yikes do NOT like the look of that allied adjusted defence. this might take quite some time as i cant move the 2nd div down from canton as chinese units everywhere ! .. i have attacked 2 of these rogue chinese behind the lines to discover they are "guerilla" units and not the static ones i was expecting. managed to morce one to move onto the darn rail lines all by myself while the attackers wallow in paddy fields [:@] Ground combat at 51,35 Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 17837 troops, 206 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 383 Defending force 743 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 26 Japanese max assault: 504 - adjusted assault: 408 Allied max defense: 27 - adjusted defense: 2 Japanese assault odds: 204 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 23 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 110 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! I'll screenie all relevant theatres next post . sorry it was so late last night i felt i had to send the turn back to Aztez before commenting. Elsewhere .. Wake falls when 2 more naval guard arrive, the initial one would have failed so just as well . In case of allied CV's all combat CL's and DD's sent at full speed back to kwajelien. Ak's can risk unloading supplies. (plenty more of them). The 18knot pre-WW1 CL will remain to be more attractive to allied planes and she is a pile of junk imo. Ground combat at Wake Island Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 5635 troops, 34 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 156 Defending force 1996 troops, 38 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 36 Japanese max assault: 310 - adjusted assault: 191 Allied max defense: 29 - adjusted defense: 15 Japanese assault odds: 12 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Wake Island base !!! Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses F4F-3 Wildcat: 6 destroyed Japanese ground losses: 321 casualties reported Guns lost 6 Allied ground losses: 2315 casualties reported Guns lost 38 Vehicles lost 1 Japan has sent a reserve inf div to palau, where it can go either to Rabaul or sulawesi/timor anyone have any comments about which might be a better option for now. ? ok piccies next . promise

Miller -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/19/2007 8:25:05 PM)
Hi Rob, I will be following this AAR closely as I am about to start the same scenario as the Japs. I nearly had a heart attack when I loaded it up just to have a lot at the dispositions of my forces[X(]. Where the hell to begin? My other game is as the Allies using the same mod, only into late December but everything looks good up to now (A2A especially).[&o]

pauk -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/19/2007 8:42:24 PM)
oh, Rob now you are finally and officialy on the right side[;)] Hm... are you sure that invading India wont be a good solution? I mean - if you brought KB in the SRA you should 'exploit' that and use KB to cover landings in India...ASAP (you don't need to conquer all India, but Ceylon, Madras and then eastern India should be doable?) I do not know about IJA units dispositions in BB mod but lets try it. How about: 1. after Singapore attack, raiding with KB in southern SRA... once when you capture Singapore (and you should capture Sing soon after you invade Mersing - at least that is how it works in the stock) load troops and invade Ceylon 2. After the troops are disembarked at Ceylon bring back KB and support landings at Java, Timor etc... (or you may even split KB and conduct both India and SRA invasions in the same time ) the rest is upon you[;)]

tiger111 -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/19/2007 10:24:15 PM)
Hi Rob This AAR is going to be good..... Where do I find the BigB mod . Can`t find it in Spookys. What DATE is the posted mod?? Ta very much.

Wolfie1 -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/20/2007 12:16:50 AM)
Diamomd Harbour before turn three seems a little ambitious- good luck is you make it.

ctangus -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/20/2007 12:21:33 AM)
Good luck - remember to click on the red units... [;)]

LittleJoe -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/20/2007 1:18:30 AM)
Go for Timor over Rabul, Timor can be turned into a mini fortress, Rabaul is just a death trap if Aztez decides to fortify it.

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/20/2007 7:44:11 PM)
Miller - thanks for the comments , glad to hear i'm not alone with gawping stupidly at japanese dispostions, the fact the mods holding up well after a year is great news. thanks and good luck on your up coming game too. Pauk , your advice is always welcome. you might be onto soemthing regarding indian adventure, but not at the expense of the DEI or creating a pacific perimiter./ lets see how quick i can take singapore. I have been turned to the dark path afterall [;)] auguatus .. yes its on spookys ( i had to look twice). Wolfie. diamond harbour was in range of the paras by fying in tabbys asap as the current troops transport a/c didnt have the legs. as it happens a small tank unit and base force are closing rapidly on land so it was a bit of a wasted effort. almost almost got it turn 1 .. i made the msitake of thinking that flying in a new unit would trigger a shock attack . didnt happen. CT- you have no idea how many times i did that on setting up turn 1 , i still see green tf's and try clicking on them [:D] Little joe . i'm with you about timor , as i like to try and fortify it too, so best to play against what i'd try and do i suppose is as good a guide as anything. Rabaul seems quiet for now. jap RO class sub patrolling and 27 nells now in truk for any allied adventure. i'd like more zeros but they are needed else where for now. Well what can i say about the last turn ( and i got screenies). NICE ! (unless your dutch) lets start at the beginning though. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/09/41 The remnants of the RN came out fighting at mersing . CL Danae put up a very brave show and was only sunk on the 10th by nells out of saigon . the cheeky brits stayed and bombarded the japanese landing beaches ! but at a terrible price. no japanese ships badly damaged. Night Time Surface Combat, near Mersing at 23,49 Japanese Ships BB Kongo, Shell hits 1 BB Haruna CA Takao CA Atago CL Jintsu, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire DD Asashio DD Oshio DD Michishio DD Arashio DD Akatsuki DD Hibiki Allied Ships CL Danae DD Vampire, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Vendetta DD Tenedos, Shell hits 52, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CA atago made it personal ! DD Electra, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Express -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Mersing at 23,49 Japanese Ships BB Kongo, Shell hits 1 BB Haruna CA Takao CA Atago, Shell hits 1 CL Jintsu, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage might make it back. DD Asashio DD Oshio, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage will in alllikey hood go down DD Michishio DD Arashio DD Akatsuki DD Hibiki Allied Ships CL Danae, Shell hits 4 DD Vampire, Shell hits 5, and is sunk DD Vendetta, Shell hits 1 DD Tenedos, and is sunk DD Electra, Shell hits 5, on fire DD Express Naval bombardment of Mersing, at 23,49 - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 20 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships CL Danae, Shell hits 5 DD Vendetta DD Electra, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage DD Express Japanese ground losses: 109 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Clarke gets lightly hit again , not much need to keep this up as the road to here is open now. Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 10 G3M Nell x 6 G4M1 Betty x 52 Ki-46-II Dinah x 2 Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-35A: 1 destroyed P-26A: 1 destroyed P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed Runway hits 21 Dive bombing HK isnt a good idea ! Day Air attack on Hong Kong Fortress, at 43,42 Japanese aircraft Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 3 Ki-51 Sonia x 24 Ki-15 Babs x 1 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-51 Sonia: 3 destroyed, 15 damaged The british DD;s from HK attempted an open water interception a bit too close to formosa :-. Was a waste imo. Day Air attack on TF at 46,45 Japanese aircraft A5M4 Claude x 7 A6M2 Zero x 30 B5N Kate x 6 Ki-27 Nate x 28 Ki-30 Ann x 24 Japanese aircraft losses B5N Kate: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Ki-30 Ann: 1 damaged Allied Ships DD Thanet, Bomb hits 1, on fire DD Scout DD Thracian, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Day Air attack on TF at 46,45 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 2 B5N Kate x 21 Japanese aircraft losses B5N Kate: 4 damaged Allied Ships DD Scout DD Thracian, on fire, heavy damage DD Thanet, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage Thanet sank, thracian is limping bdly back to HK. only scout made it home in one piece. San marcelano also came to the attention of the USN sailing from manilla. the ASW group did remarkably well imo . Day Time Surface Combat, near San Marcelino at 43,50 Japanese Ships DD Ikazuchi, Shell hits 3 DD Inazuma, Shell hits 3 PG Akitsu Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire PG Chiyo Maru PC Ch 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Allied Ships PG Isabel, Shell hits 2, on fire PG Asheville, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk PG Tulsa, Shell hits 20, on fire, heavy damage PT PT-31 PT PT-32, Shell hits 23, and is sunk PT PT-33 PT PT-34 PT PT-35, Shell hits 3, and is sunk PT PT-41 The SC CL led group did well too .. all combats are daytime rather than night. allowing the PT's to get whittled down. Day Time Surface Combat, near San Marcelino at 43,50 Japanese Ships CL Naka DD Natsugumo, Shell hits 1 DD Minegumo, Shell hits 3, on fire DD Asagumo DD Murasame, Shell hits 4 DD Harusame, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Yudachi, Shell hits 1 DD Samidare, Shell hits 4, on fire Allied Ships DD John D. Ford, Shell hits 12, and is sunk DD Peary, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage DD Pillsbury, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage DD Pope, Shell hits 2, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near San Marcelino at 43,50 Japanese Ships CL Naka DD Natsugumo DD Minegumo, on fire DD Asagumo DD Murasame DD Harusame, on fire DD Yudachi DD Samidare, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships PG Isabel, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage PG Tulsa, Shell hits 5, and is sunk PT PT-31, Shell hits 1, and is sunk PT PT-33 PT PT-34 PT PT-41, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage That went well , the transports bar one AP group have unloaded and are steaming back to formosa. However my elation was abruptly brought down to earth by the CA houston attacking the landings at Jolo. no sign of the boise anywhere yet. Day Time Surface Combat, near Jolo at 38,59 Japanese Ships PG Tatsumiya Maru, Shell hits 2 PC Ch 7, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage AP Kasuga Maru, Shell hits 12, on fire, heavy damage AP Nissen Maru #2, Shell hits 12, on fire, heavy damage AP Syoka Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire AP Tatuta Maru, Shell hits 11, on fire Allied Ships CA Houston, Shell hits 3 The land attacks made it up though. several key bases taken ( i was over cautious on several as i had no real idea of the defending numbers ) Guam excluded see later .. Ground combat at Amboina Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 11362 troops, 71 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 174 Defending force 1923 troops, 18 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 37 Japanese max assault: 356 - adjusted assault: 386 Allied max defense: 35 - adjusted defense: 17 Japanese assault odds: 22 to 1 (fort level 2) Japanese forces CAPTURE Amboina base !!! Japanese ground losses: 165 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Allied ground losses: 402 casualties reported Guns lost 7 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Jolo Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 5441 troops, 34 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 118 Defending force 642 troops, 5 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 1 Japanese max assault: 242 - adjusted assault: 115 Allied max defense: 1 - adjusted defense: 2 Japanese assault odds: 57 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Jolo base !!! Allied ground losses: 1154 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Vehicles lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Kuching Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 28041 troops, 183 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 542 Defending force 1857 troops, 9 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 37 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1 Japanese max assault: 1128 - adjusted assault: 1326 Allied max defense: 27 - adjusted defense: 9 Japanese assault odds: 147 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese forces CAPTURE Kuching base !!! Japanese ground losses: 164 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Allied ground losses: 863 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 51,38 CHINESE GUERILLAS. Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 34460 troops, 407 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 738 Defending force 703 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22 Japanese max assault: 806 - adjusted assault: 566 Allied max defense: 24 - adjusted defense: 17 Japanese assault odds: 33 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 42 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 6 casualties reported Defeated Allied Units Retreating! I have attacked several guerilla bands in china . am i just unlocking them for aztez to use or are they non-static to begin with? a little house clearance seemed in order before taking on bigger prey in china. Ground combat at Mersing Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 36602 troops, 449 guns, 192 vehicles, Assault Value = 586 Defending force 5644 troops, 53 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 113 Japanese max assault: 1014 - adjusted assault: 592 Allied max defense: 89 - adjusted defense: 15 Japanese assault odds: 39 to 1 (fort level 3) Japanese forces CAPTURE Mersing base !!! Japanese ground losses: 104 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Allied ground losses: 166 casualties reported Guns lost 15 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at San Marcelino Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 47121 troops, 555 guns, 141 vehicles, Assault Value = 922 Defending force 511 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2 Japanese max assault: 1986 - adjusted assault: 2550 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 4 Japanese assault odds: 637 to 1 (fort level 2) Japanese forces CAPTURE San Marcelino base !!! Allied ground losses: 19 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Davao Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 9063 troops, 76 guns, 20 vehicles, Assault Value = 227 Defending force 3390 troops, 31 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 91 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0 Japanese max assault: 190 - adjusted assault: 78 Allied max defense: 91 - adjusted defense: 29 Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Davao base !!! Japanese ground losses: 122 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Vehicles lost 2 Allied ground losses: 80 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Khota Bharu Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 20933 troops, 258 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 448 Defending force 10894 troops, 58 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 181 Japanese max assault: 984 - adjusted assault: 354 Allied max defense: 147 - adjusted defense: 75 Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 4) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0 Japanese ground losses: 213 casualties reported Guns lost 8 Vehicles lost 1 Allied ground losses: 267 casualties reported Guns lost 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Guam Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 1795 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 55 Defending force 1044 troops, 2 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 15 Japanese max assault: 53 - adjusted assault: 14 Allied max defense: 13 - adjusted defense: 16 Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese ground losses: 114 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Allied ground losses: 16 casualties reported Blasted Guam ! i knew it was better than stock but this ! .. ugrgh.. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/10/41 Allied subs from manilla and java are starting to make thier presence felt , no real attacks and japanese escorts keep thier heads down. Speaking of subs , the japanese subs originally near PH were moved out turn 1. about 12 are standing off the american coast. while several more have been sent to the south and SW Pacific. dual duty. convoy attack but also to act as scouts where i don't /cant have float planes. The Danea finally dies :- Day Air attack on TF, near Mersing at 23,49 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 2 G3M Nell x 52 Japanese aircraft losses G3M Nell: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged Allied Ships CL Danae, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage DD Express Then KB spotted several dutch task forces at soerbaja ( as i was hopeing this caught Aztez completely off guard and cost him a large chunk of the dutch navy) . fortunately the CAP was pathetic else the unescorted strikes would have been costly. Day Air attack on TF, near Soerabaja at 22,65 Japanese aircraft D3A Val x 22 B5N Kate x 21 Allied aircraft CW-21B Demon x 3 Japanese aircraft losses D3A Val: 1 damaged B5N Kate: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied Ships CL Dragon, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage SUNK CL Durban, Bomb hits 1, on fire Day Air attack on TF, near Soerabaja at 22,65 Japanese aircraft D3A Val x 22 B5N Kate x 24 Allied aircraft CW-21B Demon x 3 Japanese aircraft losses B5N Kate: 1 damaged Allied Ships ML Gouden Leeuw, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage ML Krakatau, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage I LOVE sinking mine layers! Day Air attack on TF, near Soerabaja at 22,65 Japanese aircraft D3A Val x 28 B5N Kate x 19 Allied aircraft CW-21B Demon x 3 Japanese aircraft losses D3A Val: 8 damaged B5N Kate: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied Ships DD Van Nes DD Evertsen CL Java, Bomb hits 9, on fire, heavy damage Day Air attack on TF, near Soerabaja at 22,65 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 58 D3A Val x 35 B5N Kate x 48 Allied aircraft CW-21B Demon x 3 Japanese aircraft losses D3A Val: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged B5N Kate: 3 destroyed, 7 damaged Allied aircraft losses CW-21B Demon: 3 destroyed Allied Ships DD Banckert CL De Ruyter, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage SUNK CL Tromp, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage will sink i hope DD Witte de With, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Tomorrow KB will stand off soerbaja with main target being TF's secondary Soerbaja port to be hit in an attempt to finish off any cripples. lets hope that the dutch air force does not contain many suprises Nell or betties have been sent to jolo/davao/kutching . amboina needs more supplies 1st. also along are zeros as house rule i cant activate bombers the same turn as transferring. however as the airfield icon will light up , fighters can and have been sent forward to prevent allied bombing for free. Mersing recieves oscars/lily and sally bombers along with some sonias. (this should prevent allied supply ships). after a 4-1 attack on day 1 khota baru saw off the japanese ( 2 day turns do that ). Ground combat at Khota Bharu Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 20660 troops, 245 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 435 Defending force 10509 troops, 46 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 161 Japanese max assault: 840 - adjusted assault: 44 Allied max defense: 118 - adjusted defense: 87 Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese ground losses: 966 casualties reported OUCH Guns lost 31 Vehicles lost 4 Allied ground losses: 91 casualties reported Guns lost 3 It got worse too, japanese crossed a river in china and were slaughtered. having nil intel will cause that to happen i suppose. Actually i have never seen an attacker retreating before. never even know it happened ? quite thankful really a the /b brigade is at 0% readyness. its a mess with a capital MESS. Ground combat at Pucheng Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 12468 troops, 147 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 274 Defending force 18374 troops, 47 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 460 Japanese max assault: 330 - adjusted assault: 24 Allied max defense: 491 - adjusted defense: 964 Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 5) Japanese ground losses: 2991 casualties reported HOLY CRAP! Guns lost 46 Vehicles lost 5 Allied ground losses: 36 casualties reported here is south china .. where Pucheng is ! .. you can see the huge changes to the chise map and more importantly the disposition of the chinese and japanese forces. [image]local://upfiles/7467/729A882586EF4CB7A1414E759B7EDE1F.jpg[/image]

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/20/2007 7:47:29 PM)
north china.. im digging in and sweeping the rear of guerillas (if possible) , i am finally understanding the meaning og trying to herd cats !) [image]local://upfiles/7467/7DA634357C4D44D89EE941E1E8B072DE.jpg[/image]

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/20/2007 9:51:16 PM)
Heres a sight that most japanese players would wince at ! .. DD Kagero badly damaged then sunk by LBA on the way to saigon . [image]local://upfiles/7467/1A63E06EC1DC41D3BBFEF9A22B011495.jpg[/image] Phew ,, wet trouser moment there [;)] Night Time Surface Combat at 24,63 Japanese Ships CV Kaga CV Hiryu CV Soryu CV Shokaku CV Zuikaku CV Akagi BB Hiei BB Kirishima CA Tone CA Chikuma CL Abukuma DD Akigumo DD Kagero, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Isokaze DD Shiranuhi DD Urakaze DD Hamakaze DD Tanikaze DD Arare DD Kasumi DD Akebono DD Sazanami DD Ushio Allied Ships PT TM-4 PT TM-5 PT TM-6 PT TM-7 PT TM-8 PT TM-9, Shell hits 40, and is sunk DD scout came out from HK and actually did some damage over 2 days , she must be in ruins by now though :- Night Time Surface Combat at 46,46 Japanese Ships MSW Banshu Maru #56, Shell hits 2 MSW Choun Maru #6 MSW Choun Maru #7 MSW Choun Maru #18 MSW Choun Maru #21 MSW Hinode Maru #20 MSW Musashi Maru MSW Rokko Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire MSW Toshi Maru #2 AK Atlas Maru AK Hoeisan Maru AK Kosei Maru AK Kotoku Maru AK Mansei Maru, Shell hits 1 AK Okitu Maru AK Pacific Maru AK Soyo Maru AK Sydney Maru AK Takaoka Maru AK Yamagiku Maru, Shell hits 10, on fire, heavy damage AK Hokuzan Maru AK Chuko Maru Allied Ships DD Scout, Shell hits 7 She ran into an ASW TF too, damaged an APD unfoprtunately (she should recover). Day Time Surface Combat at 44,48 Japanese Ships APD APD-31, Shell hits 1, on fire APD APD-32 PC Ch 19 PC Ch 20 PC Ch 21, Shell hits 1 PC Ch 22 Allied Ships DD Scout, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage Bombers found her too :- Day Air attack on TF at 44,48 Japanese aircraft Ki-21 Sally x 15 No Japanese losses Allied Ships DD Scout, Bomb hits 1, on fire and again day 2 :- Night Time Surface Combat at 42,49 Japanese Ships APD APD-31, on fire APD APD-32 PC Ch 19 PC Ch 20 PC Ch 21 PC Ch 22 Allied Ships DD Scout, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage SINK DAMN YOU [:D] KB did what i asked of it , but the air commander decided that sending escorts to soerbaja wasnt necessary ! and sent them to open ocean instead , cost me several kates ! KB flattened 2 large convoys coming into soerbaja (one carrying men). and hit the port with great results, finishing off the dutch CL's and several DD's . Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65 Japanese aircraft D3A Val x 42 B5N Kate x 48 Allied aircraft CW-21B Demon x 5 Brewster 339D x 6 Japanese aircraft losses D3A Val: 4 destroyed, 8 damaged B5N Kate: 6 destroyed, 6 damaged Allied Ships DD Van Ghent, Bomb hits 2, on fire AS Colombia, Bomb hits 2, on fire DD Witte de With, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CL Durban, Bomb hits 1 CL De Ruyter, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage DD Banckert, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage DD Piet Hein, Bomb hits 1, on fire CL Java, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Van Nes, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Day Air attack on TF at 24,65 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 53 D3A Val x 36 B5N Kate x 54 escorts here ! Japanese aircraft losses D3A Val: 1 damaged Allied Ships AP Rochussen, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire AK Sigli, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage MSW Pieter de Bitter, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AP Van Landsberge, Torpedo hits 1, on fire AK Loa Koeloe, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AK Toendjoek, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire AK Parigi, Torpedo hits 1, on fire MSW Abraham Crijnssen, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AK Sinabang, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AK Senang AP Van Overstraten, Torpedo hits 1, on fire Allied ground losses: 158 casualties reported nice Day Air attack on TF at 24,65 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 4 D3A Val x 18 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK Senang, Bomb hits 1, on fire AK Toendjoek, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage AP Van Neck AP Van Overstraten, Bomb hits 1, on fire Allied ground losses: 60 casualties reported Day Air attack on TF at 24,65 Japanese aircraft B5N Kate x 20 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AP Van Overstraten, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AK Senang, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AK Sigli, on fire, heavy damage AP Van Landsberge, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Allied ground losses: 27 casualties reported Day Air attack on TF, near Pamakasan at 24,66 Japanese aircraft D3A Val x 56 B5N Kate x 43 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK Modjekerto, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage AK Ban Ho Guan AK Soerabaja, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage AK Duymaer van Twist, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AK Tjisaroea, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage AK Benkalis, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Day Air attack on TF, near Soerabaja at 22,65 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 58 D3A Val x 28 B5N Kate x 17 Allied aircraft CW-21B Demon x 6 Brewster 339D x 6 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses CW-21B Demon: 5 destroyed Brewster 339D: 5 destroyed Allied Ships AP Van Neck, Bomb hits 3, on fire AP Rochussen, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage AK Sigli, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AK Loa Koeloe, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AK Sinabang, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65 Japanese aircraft D3A Val x 85 B5N Kate x 119 Allied aircraft CW-21B Demon x 4 Brewster 339D x 3 Japanese aircraft losses NO BLOODY ESCORT AGAIN D3A Val: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged B5N Kate: 8 destroyed, 4 damaged Allied aircraft losses CW-21B Demon: 1 damaged Allied Ships CL Java, Bomb hits 23, on fire, heavy damage CL Durban, Bomb hits 10, on fire, heavy damage DD Evertsen, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage DD Van Ghent, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage DD Witte de With, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage DD Piet Hein, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage DD Van Nes, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AS Colombia, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage DD Kortenaer, Bomb hits 1 DD Banckert, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Allied ground losses: 177 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Port hits 14 Port fuel hits 1 Port supply hits 2 KB to go back to saigon for fuel ,, lets see what to do with her after that. Surface combat off san marcelano in the philippines was no less intense today either. DD satsuki was operating experimental torpedo magnet technology [:@] Day Time Surface Combat, near San Marcelino at 43,50 Japanese Ships CL Natori DD Satsuki, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage DD Minazuki DD Fumizuki DD Nagatsuki DD Harukaze DD Hatakaze Allied Ships PT PT-33 PT PT-34, Shell hits 13, and is sunk Day Time Surface Combat, near San Marcelino at 43,50 Japanese Ships CL Natori DD Satsuki, Shell hits 20, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk DD Minazuki DD Fumizuki DD Nagatsuki DD Harukaze DD Hatakaze Allied Ships PT PT-33, Shell hits 2, and is sunk At least thats the last of the PT's here .. i hate them even more now im playing Japan. [;)] DD Pope remained for some action too. Day Time Surface Combat, near San Marcelino at 43,50 Japanese Ships CL Natori DD Satsuki, on fire, heavy damage DD Minazuki DD Fumizuki DD Nagatsuki DD Harukaze DD Hatakaze Allied Ships DD Pope, Shell hits 1, on fire Our new SC TF did good service and finished the poep off Day Time Surface Combat, near San Marcelino at 43,50 Japanese Ships CL Natori DD Minazuki DD Fumizuki DD Nagatsuki DD Harukaze DD Hatakaze Allied Ships DD Pope, Shell hits 24, on fire, heavy damage DD's peary and pillsbury also showed up , and got hit hard by the very AP's that they were supposed to be attacking . Night Time Surface Combat, near San Marcelino at 43,50 Japanese Ships MSW W.7 MSW W.8 MSW W.9 MSW W.10 MSW W.15 MSW W.16 MSW W.17 MSW W.18 MSW W.19 PC Ch 3 PC Ch 13 PC Ch 14 PC Ch 15 PC Ch 16 PC Ch 17 PC Ch 18 PC Ch 32 AP Aki Maru AP Anyo Maru AP Anzan Maru AP Arizana Maru AP Arizona Maru AP Burisuben Maru AP Chowa Maru AP Hanakawa Maru AP Hawaii Maru AP Husimi Maru AP Jinsan Maru AP Kamo Maru AP Karachi Maru AP Kasima Maru AP Keisho Maru AP Koyo Maru AP Kumagawa Maru AP Matsukawa Maru AP Maya Maru AP Oigawa Maru AP Oridono Maru AP Ozan Maru AP Sanko Maru AP Satsuma Maru AP Shinko Maru AP Shirogane Maru AP Tutukami Maru AP Tensyo Maru AP Tenyo Maru AP Tenzan Maru AP Terukuni Maru AP Tohuku Maru AP Tsuyama Maru AP Ueizuru Maru AP Unkai Maru #6 AP Waura Maru AP Yasukuni Maru AP Yosyu Maru AP Palao Maru AP Kikuryu Maru Allied Ships DD Peary, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage DD Pillsbury, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage[:D] I was wondering where Boise and marbehead were, well they showed up off Davao. The japanese CL group i 1/2 expected to get slaughtered. survived rather well. Night Time Surface Combat, near Davao at 41,61 Japanese Ships CL Nagara, Shell hits 2 DD Yukikaze, Shell hits 8, on fire DD Tokitsukaze, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Umikaze DD Suzukaze DD Shiokaze Allied Ships CL Marblehead, Shell hits 2 CL Boise, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire[:D] DD Alden DD Barker, Shell hits 1 DD Bulmer DD Edsall, Shell hits 1 DD John D. Edwards DD Paul Jones, Shell hits 3, on fire DD Parrott DD Whipple DD Stewart Meanwhile the submarine war started with japanese I boat sinking an american MSW near Pago Pago . Sub attack at 91,113 Japanese Ships SS I-20 Allied Ships MSW Kingfisher, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage SUNK Meanwhile at midway RO boat found some US BB's .. well one anyway . the sub will sneak out of here after 2 attacks she's having a charmed life .. ASW attack near Midway at 95,61 Japanese Ships SS RO-66, hits 1 Allied Ships DD Reid DD Shaw DD Mugford DD Helm DD Blue DD Bagley CL Honolulu CL Helena CA San Francisco BB Pennsylvania TAvoy, Legaspi and Victoria point fell too. so all is going well (ish) so far.

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/21/2007 10:19:09 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/13/41 Pretty quiet 2 days The land based a/c at mersing announce thier arrival with an attack on the remnants of the RN floating serenely near singapore . Day Air attack on TF, near Singapore at 23,50 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 22 Ki-27 Nate x 24 Ki-51 Sonia x 15 Ki-48 Lily x 12 Allied aircraft Wirraway x 5 Buffalo I x 10 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 damaged Ki-27 Nate: 1 destroyed Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses Wirraway: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Buffalo I: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged Allied Ships DD Vendetta, Bomb hits 2 DD Express, Bomb hits 1 Meanwhile the betties at jolo and davao finish off the american DD's trying to return to the relative safety of Manilla Day Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 42,51 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 3 G4M1 Betty x 3 No Japanese losses Allied Ships DD Peary, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 42,51 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 20 No Japanese losses Allied Ships DD Peary, on fire, heavy damage DD Pillsbury, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Both sank shortly afterwards. 2 AK's and one TK also caught running for it and sunk by ariel torpedo .. looks like the CA houston might have gone to manilla ? maybe. Meanwhile CL marblehead avoids 9 betties and manages to shoot down 2 with Flak. Not good . Shes fleeing toward java and was found just south of Borneo. A serious issue has arisen in China ! .. canton has been invested by a large chinese force. I dont know if they can actually take the place but forts are being built just in case. HK looks like a stalemate .. my bombardments shattered the japanese artillery and did nowt to the british .. i'll try a shock attack with the engineers to try and get the forts down. but im not too optomistic [:(] Also the japanese tanks ran too fast ahead of the infantry to clarke field and are now broken badly. Ground combat at Clark Field Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 35465 troops, 247 guns, 245 vehicles, Assault Value = 1065 Defending force 1880 troops, 0 guns, 130 vehicles, Assault Value = 74 Allied max assault: 1114 - adjusted assault: 813 Japanese max defense: 75 - adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 813 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 700 casualties reported Vehicles lost 73 Allied ground losses: 180 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Vehicles lost 2 Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! Khota baru will get some supplies over the next couple of days (much needed). then we should be able to finally take the place .. I seem to be utterly short of infantry . need more in the PI/Malaya and by the looks of it , china. As an example of how good the a2a model seems this attack on manilla bay :- Day Air attack on TF, near Manila at 43,52 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 12 G3M Nell x 12 Allied aircraft P-26A x 1 P-35A x 3 P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 25 P-40B Tomahawk x 3 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed G3M Nell: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged Allied Ships AK Kanlaon II, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Looks like wake is going to get clobbered by the US BB's . regretting not sending at least some CV's to the Pacific. That could have been a serious mistake. Also fast discovering that i should have sent out a LOT more fuel and supply on turn 1 .. some shortages predicted in palau at least. Oh well its a hard learning curve playing japan for the 1st time in 2 years and not checking the mod out 1st .. idiocy or a challenge , you decide [:D] [image]local://upfiles/7467/F9BB4AB6B02243F7BD121534E1B5C562.jpg[/image]

LittleJoe -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/22/2007 12:29:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK Looks like wake is going to get clobbered by the US BB's . regretting not sending at least some CV's to the Pacific. That could have been a serious mistake. Hate to say i told you so. [;)]

saj42 -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/23/2007 12:58:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/13/41 Khota baru will get some supplies over the next couple of days (much needed). then we should be able to finally take the place .. I seem to be utterly short of infantry . need more in the PI/Malaya and by the looks of it , china. I'm playing scen 192 - the extended map version of this campaign. You should find two 'southern area' Inf Divs in China - one in Tientsin and one in Shanghai. Thats probably where your missing infantry are. I use the turn 1 move to get enough APs there to load up on turn 2.

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/24/2007 12:18:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tallyho! quote: ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/13/41 Khota baru will get some supplies over the next couple of days (much needed). then we should be able to finally take the place .. I seem to be utterly short of infantry . need more in the PI/Malaya and by the looks of it , china. I'm playing scen 192 - the extended map version of this campaign. You should find two 'southern area' Inf Divs in China - one in Tientsin and one in Shanghai. Thats probably where your missing infantry are. I use the turn 1 move to get enough APs there to load up on turn 2. Now thats something i'd have liked to know at the start [;)] but far better late than never .. thanks Little Joe - S%% off [:D] apologies for the delay . real life getting in the way sadly .. actually it was great .. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/15/41 Battleships hit khota baru (prior to another ground attack) and Cagayan (where hit b17s were last turn ,, but not today it seems ) Night Time Surface Combat, near Cagayan at 42,59 Japanese Ships BB Fuso BB Yamashiro CA Myoko CA Nachi DD Kuroshio DD Oyashio DD Hatsukaze DD Natsushio DD Hayashio DD Amatsukaze Allied Ships AK Magallanes, Shell hits 2, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Khota Bharu, at 24,45 Japanese Ships DD Kiji DD Kari DD Kasasagi DD Hibiki DD Akatsuki CA Atago CA Takao BB Haruna BB Kongo Allied ground losses: 770 casualties reported Guns lost 10 Airbase hits 10 Runway hits 31 Port hits 1 Port fuel hits 8 Port supply hits 13 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Cagayan, at 42,59 Japanese Ships DD Amatsukaze DD Hayashio DD Natsushio DD Hatsukaze DD Oyashio DD Kuroshio CA Nachi CA Myoko BB Yamashiro BB Fuso Allied ground losses: 290 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Vehicles lost 1 Airbase hits 6 Runway hits 16 Port hits 5 Port fuel hits 3 Port supply hits 2 both reasonable results and got a damaged AK of the way to cagayan as a bonus. Japanese sub RO-61 braaved heavt ASW escorting the BB's and while failing to get a firing solution managed to survive 4 ASW attacks with minimal damage (back to truk). Both Vendetta and electra are still floating off shore from singapore . not sure why he hasnt disbanded them into port yet ? .. electra was subk day by sallies and vendetta takes several small 100kg bombs from lilys . estroyed, 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses Wirraway: 2 damaged Buffalo I: 1 damaged Allied Ships DD Vendetta, Bomb hits 2, on fire Aircraft Attacking: 1 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Singapore at 23,50 Japanese aircraft Ki-21 Sally x 8 Allied aircraft Buffalo I x 5 No Japanese losses No Allied losses Allied Ships DD Electra, on fire, heavy damage Found the USN Carriers the hard way too Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63 Allied aircraft F2A Buffalo x 11 SBD Dauntless x 66 TBD Devastator x 27 No Allied losses Airbase hits 10 Airbase supply hits 5 Runway hits 31 Frankly thats good as it means i can safely start to gobble the gilberts (tarawa apanapma ? and nauru are already mine , i'll grab baker too with a NFL unit just to be difficult. Jolo sent out 2 strikes vs a damaged AK in manilla bay .. the US fighters were formidable as i suspect my altitude was too low .. upped to 16k for tomorrow . Day Air attack on TF, near Manila at 43,52 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 11 G4M1 Betty x 3 Allied aircraft P-26A x 1 P-35A x 3 P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 23 P-40B Tomahawk x 3 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 1 damaged Allied Ships AK Latouche, heavy damage Failed AGAIN at guam .. supplies check .. not prepped obviously .. why the massive drop in AV ?[&:] Ground combat at Guam Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 2282 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 58 Defending force 1276 troops, 3 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 17 Japanese max assault: 112 - adjusted assault: 4 Allied max defense: 15 - adjusted defense: 22 Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese ground losses: 471 casualties reported Guns lost 5 Hong Kong lost a fort level fortunately . BUT i cant get supply here now as canton is besieged. chinese attack at canton was repulsed easily (luckily). Ground combat at Hong Kong Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 29100 troops, 301 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 547 Defending force 13117 troops, 112 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 233 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 7 Japanese max assault: 1160 - adjusted assault: 333 Allied max defense: 255 - adjusted defense: 229 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 7) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 7 Japanese ground losses: 455 casualties reported Guns lost 12 Vehicles lost 1 Allied ground losses: 94 casualties reported Guns lost 6 Vehicles lost 1 Ground combat at Canton Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 37786 troops, 122 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1219 Defending force 40272 troops, 258 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 459 Allied max assault: 1208 - adjusted assault: 89 Japanese max defense: 507 - adjusted defense: 6685 Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 4) Japanese ground losses: 56 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Allied ground losses: 1849 casualties reported Guns lost 41 Naga lost 2 fort levels (rest tomorrow) teh extra div was a necessity . also Alor star falls .. got the base forces to retreat anyway. Ground combat at Naga Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 41784 troops, 508 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 879 Defending force 13237 troops, 84 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 377 Japanese max assault: 868 - adjusted assault: 386 Allied max defense: 381 - adjusted defense: 239 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2 Japanese ground losses: 952 casualties reported Guns lost 31 Vehicles lost 1 Allied ground losses: 96 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Ground combat at Alor Star Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 17189 troops, 286 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 431 Defending force 4747 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22 Japanese max assault: 424 - adjusted assault: 846 Allied max defense: 21 - adjusted defense: 25 Japanese assault odds: 33 to 1 (fort level 5) Japanese forces CAPTURE Alor Star base !!! Japanese ground losses: 12 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 113 casualties reported Guns lost 6 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! I'll split the 5th division in alor and try and forcea surreneder at georgetown by severing the rail lines . And would you believe it disater at clarke field .. the infantry and artillery arrive BUT the heavy division failed to make it ! it did on day 2 and will now almost certainly be forced back to san marcelano (the PI is proving a disaster for japan right now ) .. also jap tanke leap ahead at johore baru .. sent packing .. follow orders are being routinely ignored by the ground commanders Ground combat at Johore Bahru Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 26953 troops, 243 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 689 Defending force 2916 troops, 0 guns, 192 vehicles, Assault Value = 108 Allied max assault: 666 - adjusted assault: 327 Japanese max defense: 107 - adjusted defense: 133 Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 186 casualties reported Vehicles lost 12 Allied ground losses: 199 casualties reported Guns lost 9 Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! Ground combat at Clark Field Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 35295 troops, 252 guns, 245 vehicles, Assault Value = 1050 Defending force 15831 troops, 237 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 294 Allied max assault: 1105 - adjusted assault: 542 Japanese max defense: 284 - adjusted defense: 32 Allied assault odds: 16 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 1503 casualties reported Guns lost 65 Allied ground losses: 574 casualties reported Guns lost 23 Vehicles lost 6 Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! Sigh ! .. the PI campaign is NOT going to plan at all .. oh well .. just have to fight on .. The kendari invasion force loads up on 20 AP's with base units attached .. only one CVL to cover it ,, but zeros can fly from amboina when it gets closer to the target. piccie of the PI .. my bane [image]local://upfiles/7467/96AAE45ACD354368B6B6F02223815C6E.jpg[/image]

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/25/2007 5:21:17 PM)
It's been a busy few days with both friends and family coming over to visit .. really nice actually. Anyway , on with the war .. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/17/41 Subs have been active off the US West coast and in the DEI .. also one RO class got run over by the allied big boys .. she is fine though. ASW attack at 86,61 Japanese Ships SS RO-60, hits 2 Allied Ships DD Reid DD Shaw DD Mugford DD Helm Sub attack at 129,62 US WEST COAST Japanese Ships SS I-26 Allied Ships TK Admiral Wiley, Torpedo hits 1, on fire Sub attack at 26,67 DEI .. between borneo and Java Japanese Ships SS I-155 Allied Ships AK Pasir, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage SINKS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 26,67 Japanese Ships SS I-155 Allied Ships AK Siaoe, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage SINKS Japan again forced back from clarke , this hasn't gone to plan at all , 3 successive waves been beaten off .. fortunately a new division is landing at san marcelano to beef us up a bit .. Ground combat at Clark Field Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 34655 troops, 225 guns, 245 vehicles, Assault Value = 1003 Defending force 22055 troops, 307 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 439 Allied max assault: 1033 - adjusted assault: 755 Japanese max defense: 413 - adjusted defense: 164 Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 602 casualties reported Guns lost 28 Vehicles lost 1 Allied ground losses: 375 casualties reported Guns lost 26 Vehicles lost 2 Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/18/41 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 29,27 Japanese Ships SS I-164, hits 1 Allied Ships TK Francol PG Auricula PG Freesia -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Aparri at 46,49 Japanese Ships MSW Mejima Maru MSW Asahi Maru #2 MSW Aoi Maru MSW W.20 APD APD-37 APD APD-36 Allied Ships SS Perch, hits 6 A BIT DAMAGED I THINK .. leaking oil and fires on the bridge Combined raid on manilla finally hit the US air force in the phillipines pretty hard and should make the point that manilla is NOT a safe port .. Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 40 G3M Nell x 34 G4M1 Betty x 27 Allied aircraft P-26A x 1 P-35A x 3 P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 33 P-40B Tomahawk x 6 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged G3M Nell: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-26A: 1 destroyed P-35A: 2 destroyed P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 15 destroyed, 3 damaged P-40B Tomahawk: 4 destroyed Allied Ships AK Capillo, Bomb hits 1, on fire MSW Finch, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AK Anakan, Torpedo hits 1, on fire Allied ground losses: 91 casualties reported Vehicles lost 1 We will continue this tomorrow too and try and decimate the US Warhawks once and for all. 2 more allied merchants hit by 2 ariel torps trying to escape the PI (one left in that TF). KB has had to be split according to our house rules (4C+4CVL max). Agaki, kaga, soryu and hiryu will head back to java as lots of allied shipping being siighted by our LR patrol planes. As an aside i LOVE the japanese search planes, makes catalinas look utterly obsolete. 2ND KB . with the 2 remaining CV's and one CVL are heading through the philipines to meet up with the 2nd jap CVL at palau (she is currently covering the kandari invasion TF). Then possibly down to truk/rabaul unless needed for Timor operations .. I'd like to have at least some CV's in the pacific to scare off and allied attempts to grab wake back quickly. bye for now .. piccie of a tanker burning off the US coast . [image]local://upfiles/7467/672CB92329174250A7E8C7C93C932460.jpg[/image]

Big B -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/25/2007 6:59:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/15/41 And would you believe it disater at clarke field .. the infantry and artillery arrive BUT the heavy division failed to make it ! it did on day 2 and will now almost certainly be forced back to san marcelano (the PI is proving a disaster for japan right now ) .. also jap tanke leap ahead at johore baru .. sent packing .. follow orders are being routinely ignored by the ground commanders Just an observation here - I noticed the game date is Dec 15, 1941. The main Japanese landings on Luzon (at Lingayan) didn't even take place until Dec 22. There is a lot in the Philippines (they held off the Japanese for 6 months)... perhaps you are getting a bit ahead of yourself and going too quickly? Good luck, Brian

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/25/2007 7:09:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Big B quote: ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/15/41 And would you believe it disater at clarke field .. the infantry and artillery arrive BUT the heavy division failed to make it ! it did on day 2 and will now almost certainly be forced back to san marcelano (the PI is proving a disaster for japan right now ) .. also jap tanke leap ahead at johore baru .. sent packing .. follow orders are being routinely ignored by the ground commanders Just an observation here - I noticed the game date is Dec 15, 1941. The main Japanese landings on Luzon (at Lingayan) didn't even take place until Dec 22. There is a lot in the Philippines (they held off the Japanese for 6 months)... perhaps you are getting a bit ahead of yourself and going too quickly? Good luck, Brian Hi big B .. many thanks first up for all your hard work. We both went into this mod blind, i.e without loading up as the other side. So frankly i went ahead with the only model i had (stock) for invasion planning etc. the sheer number of new units at clarke was a suprise i admit BUT IF all my troops had arrived at the same time then i think i'd have held off a 2-1 and retreat (albeit it might have been tricky , depending on whats left in manilla) .. Naga's well defended too ..

Big B -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/25/2007 7:19:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 40 G3M Nell x 34 G4M1 Betty x 27 Allied aircraft P-26A x 1 P-35A x 3 P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 33 P-40B Tomahawk x 6 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged G3M Nell: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-26A: 1 destroyed P-35A: 2 destroyed P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 15 destroyed, 3 damaged P-40B Tomahawk: 4 destroyed Hi Rob, Just curious about this air battle - were all of those P-40s destroyed A2A or were some killed on the ground? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And - yeah, the stock game dosen't prepare you well for what to expect. Learning by experience is the school of hard knocks to be sure. Brian

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/25/2007 8:05:49 PM)
air as the raid was against the port only .. seem too high to you ? being used to stock its way down by that measure. some had also flown over clarke on a smaller (not reported ) raid so they might be tired .

Big B -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/25/2007 8:19:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK air as the raid was against the port only .. seem too high to you ? being used to stock its way down by that measure. some had also flown over clarke on a smaller (not reported ) raid so they might be tired . It seemed on the high side to be sure - but here is what I said on Aztez's AAR: quote: ORIGINAL: Big B quote: ORIGINAL: aztez As for your question all those losses were air to air combat related. Ahh, well - a couple of observations about the game engine I found from testing many many hours: 1) He currently has max benefit of the Zero Bonus (as we all know). 2) His Zero squadrons are around 70 experience (if they are land based) to your likely 55 experience. 3) He probably came in two groups of around 20 Zeros each - to I am guessing - your 3 squadrons of about 11 each and one squadron of 6 P-40Bs. That would mean in combat he takes them on individually with at least two to one odds (yuch). 4) the game engine has a BIG random factor per air battle - that about 18% of the time delivers a good whipping to one side (I have never found a way around that one, don't think it can be done without re-writing the hard code). 5) I have no idea how fresh each sides pilots were - but that really weighs in, (and also - LOW Morale can be your friend when at a disadvantage in air combat because your guys won't stick around to be slaughtered). Put all those factors together... and occaisionally everyone gets spanked pretty hard. Sigh... Carry on! Brian

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/26/2007 9:44:37 PM)
Big B , my fighters were pretty tired to be honest. iirc. Khota baru is starting to be a bit of a pain. the BB's rolled up and started to shell the place with good results imo. Naval bombardment of Khota Bharu, at 24,45 Japanese Ships DD Murakumo DD Isonami DD Asashio DD Michishio DD Arashio CA Suzuya BB Haruna BB Kongo Allied ground losses: 391 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Airbase hits 2 Runway hits 35 Port hits 4 Port supply hits 2 I've landed some small NLF to bump up the AP a tad .. also diverting a division to songhika (from burma) to support the 50th in its southerly drive. Think i also got my 1st submarine kill .. plenty of ineffective ASW and dud torps (allied). ASW attack at 47,46 Japanese Ships PG Tamo Maru #7 PG Tamo Maru #6 PG Takunan Maru #8 PG Takunan Maru #3 APD APD-38 APD APD-35 Allied Ships SS Sargo, hits 8, heavy damage The reduced KB found by chance the very best of whats left of the allied ships in the DEI. Marblehead sank instantly after 4 torp strikes and CA houston went down soo after . BANZAI Day Air attack on TF at 21,61 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 42 D3A Val x 32 B5N Kate x 36 Japanese aircraft losses D3A Val: 3 damaged B5N Kate: 2 damaged Allied Ships CA Houston, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 7, on fire, heavy damage CL Marblehead, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage DD Bulmer DD John D. Edwards Follow up attacks heavily damaged 2 more DD's .. recon reporting a lot of allied CA's ? at batavia . KB to move up and see whats happening (kates on 2ndary port attack at 16k alt). Day Air attack on TF at 21,61 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 25 D3A Val x 21 B5N Kate x 30 Japanese aircraft losses D3A Val: 1 damaged B5N Kate: 1 damaged Allied Ships DD Whipple CA Houston, on fire, heavy damage DD Parrott, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD John D. Edwards, Bomb hits 2, on fire Japanese sub blockade of the west coast nets a 2nd laden tanker . [:D] Sub attack at 28,34 Japanese Ships SS I-158 Allied Ships TK Empire Unity, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage Allied ground attack on khota baru .. why ? oh well we will attack tomorrow to take advantage of the allied disruption, heavt attacks from sallies from thailand have badly damaged the indian brigade and definatel stopped its recovery from this ! Ground combat at Khota Bharu Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 11208 troops, 45 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 218 Defending force 32146 troops, 208 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 505 Allied max assault: 103 - adjusted assault: 9 [&:] Japanese max defense: 524 - adjusted defense: 1005 Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 7 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 591 casualties reported Guns lost 4 many attacks on chinese guerillas have, i think, eliminated one .. otherwise the annoying gits are retreating all over the place as japan tries to clear up its lines of communication. i am persuing these annoyances all over china .. see piccie . As just so japan does not think im asleep in the SW Pacific :- Naval bombardment of Rabaul, at 61,88 Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses Wirraway: 2 destroyed Japanese Ships CL Kitakami CL Kiso CL Tama CL Kashima CA Kako CA Furutaka CA Kinugasa BB Mutsu BB Nagato Allied ground losses: 92 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 8 Airbase supply hits 5 Runway hits 41 Port supply hits 1 Japanese fighter sweep over manilla fails miserably .. should have been 40 odd oscars and 40 some zeros , only 12 oscars make it , and die horribly . Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 10 Allied aircraft P-26A x 1 P-35A x 3 P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 28 P-40B Tomahawk x 3 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 6 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 6 damaged Sub attack at 142,53 Japanese Ships SS I-21 Allied Ships TK Alfred Clegg, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage Another tanker Also had a bit of a scare when allied torpedoes hit the CA Maya (duds) phew ! Sub attack near San Marcelino at 43,50 Japanese Ships CA Maya DD Inazuma DD Asagumo Allied Ships SS Pike, hits 1 Ground combat at Guam Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 2333 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 56 Defending force 1356 troops, 3 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 17 Deliberate attack tomorrow ! Guam is proving an annoyance Allied AV in hong kong looks way down .. also no counter fire today. attack tomorrow to try and reduce the forts another level .. Canton seems safeer for now .. Ground combat at Hong Kong Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 1746 troops, 45 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 509 Defending force 12943 troops, 102 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 233 Allied ground losses: 38 casualties reported Guns lost 2 all for now .. [image]local://upfiles/7467/722199EE69CC46C7AFB1A96052AB1EAE.jpg[/image]

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/27/2007 4:26:28 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/23/41 Once again the oscars fly to Manilla , but this time in much better numbers and the results reflect it. Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 37 Ki-21 Sally x 18 Ki-15 Babs x 3 Allied aircraft P-26A x 1 P-35A x 5 P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 25 P-40B Tomahawk x 3 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-35A: 5 destroyed P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 6 destroyed, 10 damaged [:)] P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed Allied Ships AP President Madison, Bomb hits 1, on fire Its difficult to decide what to do at manilla, Aztez has ships in port and at sea so its way too east for some high morale units to fly into the jaws of P40 death. just see how well nates cope :) Day Air attack on TF, near Manila at 43,52 Japanese aircraft Ki-27 Nate x 7 Ki-30 Ann x 17 Allied aircraft P-26A x 1 P-35A x 3 P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 25 P-40B Tomahawk x 3 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-27 Nate: 7 destroyed [:@] Ki-30 Ann: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-40B Tomahawk: 1 damaged Allied Ships AK Latouche, heavy damage AK Kanlaon II, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage annoying i admit . humm not sure what to do , except go onto 100% naval search and hope for the occasional bomb hit ? .. then again when they target somewhere out side manilla its results as expected. Day Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 42,51 Japanese aircraft Ki-27 Nate x 17 Ki-30 Ann x 14 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK Don Jose, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage Far Far better.. have to think on this . anyhoo . allies are regretting the khota baru attack yesterday as japan takes advantage of the allied mistake. Ground combat at Khota Bharu Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 32347 troops, 208 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 515 Defending force 9998 troops, 33 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 121 Japanese max assault: 522 - adjusted assault: 392 Allied max defense: 87 - adjusted defense: 65 Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Khota Bharu base !!! Japanese ground losses: 223 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Allied ground losses: 137 casualties reported Guns lost 7 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! Guam finally fell too .. at long last [:D] Ground combat at Guam Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 2421 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 59 Defending force 1376 troops, 3 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 17 Japanese max assault: 56 - adjusted assault: 60 Allied max defense: 15 - adjusted defense: 25 Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Guam base !!! Japanese ground losses: 45 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Allied ground losses: 730 casualties reported Guns lost 3 also kuala lumpur falls to the 5th divisions drive down the malayan west coast. although the brits took alor star back (however briefly) Ground combat at Khota Bharu Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 32347 troops, 208 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 515 Defending force 9998 troops, 33 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 121 Japanese max assault: 522 - adjusted assault: 392 Allied max defense: 87 - adjusted defense: 65 Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Khota Bharu base !!! Japanese ground losses: 223 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Allied ground losses: 137 casualties reported Guns lost 7 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! Japanse arent upto taking johore baru yet . about even on AV .. but the jap shelling (with 4 artillery brigades ) is taking its toll on the defenders. Ground combat at Johore Bahru Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 28209 troops, 448 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 606 Defending force 31366 troops, 255 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 720 Allied ground losses: 221 casualties reported [:D] Guns lost 8 Unfortunately the fly in the ointment was hong kong. losses were light however but no forts taken down .. sigh .. might be here for a while Ground combat at Hong Kong Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 28445 troops, 269 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 512 Defending force 12923 troops, 104 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 232 Japanese max assault: 517 - adjusted assault: 411 Allied max defense: 251 - adjusted defense: 1581 Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 7) Japanese ground losses: 152 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Allied ground losses: 162 casualties reported Guns lost 15 Meanwhile KB and betties from malaya damage and sink about 7 AK's and AP's seemingly doing something on the sumatran west coast ? wonder what ? and KB Kates hit batavia port losing 4 to flak and finding the harbour empty. We can be consoled that the zeros decimated the defending buffs and wirraways. I suspect there is a large allied airforce in soerbaja so we'll give it a wide berth for now (CV's anyway). and as we have already got the best of the dutch and now the US surface units its only the boise on the loose and i think shes damaged (lightly). KB to be on invasion duty and lesser KB to head to the pacific after the landings at kendari . KB will frobably cover the next step which is a leap to timor. KB location [image]local://upfiles/7467/4068A8D9CC2C4051B0201BBAA8FABDDA.jpg[/image]

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/29/2007 6:17:49 PM)
Sorry for not updating for the 25th and 26th od december, both sides seem to have given the men time off for christmas and nowt happened much. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/27/41 Periodic shelling of rabaul will hopefully prevent fort building and does cull the odd a/c Naval bombardment of Rabaul, at 61,88 Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses Wirraway: 2 destroyed Japanese Ships CL Kitakami CL Kiso CL Tama CL Kashima CA Kako CA Furutaka CA Kinugasa BB Mutsu BB Nagato Allied ground losses: 119 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 4 Airbase supply hits 4 Runway hits 60 Port hits 1 In an effort to cull the P40's at manilla , fighter sweeps ordered from san marck and legaspi. Oscars seem to do 1-1 vs the dreaded allied plane while the zeros downed quite a few. Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 44 Ki-15 Babs x 1 Allied aircraft P-35A x 3 P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 26 P-40B Tomahawk x 3 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 5 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 3 destroyed, 8 damaged P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 27 Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 12 Allied aircraft P-35A x 3 P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 17 P-40B Tomahawk x 2 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses P-35A: 1 destroyed P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 10 destroyed P-40B Tomahawk: 2 destroyed KB's coming here to drive the final nail in manilla harbour and decimate the allied a/c too. I'd like to catch some damaged allied subs in port too. killing the AS would be a huge bonus. Malacca falls to the 5th divisions drive south and the BF's retreat to kuantan, nice POW camp for now [;)]. The allied get driven out of alor star by a pir of NFL units . these will block the allies in georgetown for now. Allied are over optomistic on ground assault and they try to remove the japs from moulmein, all they have achieved is to guarantee a japanese assault next turn (2 divs +tanks +hq) Ground combat at Moulmein Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 21253 troops, 220 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 553 Defending force 47467 troops, 546 guns, 119 vehicles, Assault Value = 1048 Allied max assault: 475 - adjusted assault: 126 Japanese max defense: 1034 - adjusted defense: 524 Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 460 casualties reported Guns lost 8 Vehicles lost 2 Allied ground losses: 829 casualties reported KB i.e Kaga/agaki/hiryu and soryu will strike manilla port and will have port attack as primary mission to try and avoid unescorted strikes. fingers crossed .. several SS reported in port. Confirmed sunk the 1st allied sub tody too APD's hammered S-37 in the china sea. the japanese ASW is slowly getting better. sallies and nells fly ASW have spotted many subs and even hit a few. Guns lost 39

Mike Solli -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/29/2007 6:52:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK In an effort to cull the P40's at manilla , fighter sweeps ordered from san marck and legaspi. Oscars seem to do 1-1 vs the dreaded allied plane while the zeros downed quite a few. Something you may want to consider.... Zeros are (obviously) much better than IJAAF fighters, especially with the Zero bonus. Put Zeros on sweep over Manila. Use Oscars to escort the bombers. Keep Nates out of combat as much as possible and upgrade them to Oscars. The Zeros will knock down the CAP each day and allow the Oscars to survive that much better vs. the remaining Allied fighters.

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 (3/29/2007 9:17:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mike Solli quote: ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK In an effort to cull the P40's at manilla , fighter sweeps ordered from san marck and legaspi. Oscars seem to do 1-1 vs the dreaded allied plane while the zeros downed quite a few. Something you may want to consider.... Zeros are (obviously) much better than IJAAF fighters, especially with the Zero bonus. Put Zeros on sweep over Manila. Use Oscars to escort the bombers. Keep Nates out of combat as much as possible and upgrade them to Oscars. The Zeros will knock down the CAP each day and allow the Oscars to survive that much better vs. the remaining Allied fighters. good plan. KB failed to launch in both turns I've ramped up oscar production but its mostly still repairing . nates are occasionslly doing the odd ground attack run in china. never seem to have enough zeros to do everything yet .. still its early days and i will eventually fill out the nome islands fighter groups and move them else where. Anyhoo on with the story :- Johore baru got its first taste of the sally today and runways badly damaged. he has no a/c there but it will prevent fort construction. Day Air attack on Johore Bahru , at 22,49 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 19 Ki-21 Sally x 90 No Japanese losses Airbase hits 11 Airbase supply hits 8 Runway hits 56 Japanese 1st attack failed miserably too. this is a big stack of commonwealth units and will be hard to shift. although 3 more divs are in malaya mopping up/advancing etc. so i should eventually have punch come mid january i guess. meanwhile the jap artillery does hurt the brits. Ground combat at Johore Bahru Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 66933 troops, 865 guns, 241 vehicles, Assault Value = 1379 Defending force 30047 troops, 216 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 647 Japanese max assault: 1309 - adjusted assault: 699 Allied max defense: 618 - adjusted defense: 1127 Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 5) Japanese ground losses: 1151 casualties reported Guns lost 56 Vehicles lost 3 Allied ground losses: 592 casualties reported Guns lost 30 Ground combat at Johore Bahru Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 5225 troops, 181 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1297 Defending force 29227 troops, 185 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 614 Allied ground losses: 145 casualties reported Guns lost 7 Hong kong was a similar story .. also getting runway atacks for the same reason. 1st attack at least took a fort level down .. 2nd was bad [:@], but thats 2 day turns for you. Ground combat at Hong Kong Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 28673 troops, 275 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 519 Defending force 12652 troops, 92 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 225 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 6 Japanese max assault: 1042 - adjusted assault: 1658 Allied max defense: 225 - adjusted defense: 875 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 6) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 6 Japanese ground losses: 292 casualties reported Guns lost 14 Vehicles lost 1 Allied ground losses: 76 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Ground combat at Hong Kong Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 28301 troops, 266 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 500 Defending force 12648 troops, 93 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 222 Japanese max assault: 928 - adjusted assault: 334 Allied max defense: 185 - adjusted defense: 1063 Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 6) Japanese ground losses: 479 casualties reported Guns lost 26 Vehicles lost 5 Allied ground losses: 52 casualties reported Guns lost 3 heres a list of japanese losses so far. about 2-3 not on the screenie and thay are AK's so no great loss. [image]local://upfiles/7467/2AE8EEE538274D95A65B56BC6F53733D.jpg[/image]

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