Ursa MAior -> RE: Iraq Vehicle Force Mix (4/16/2007 10:04:43 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Twotribes Ya, sure thing. If one would do more then read the biased mainstream media, one might get the real picture in Iraq. Is there fighting? Sure is, but now instead of the citizenry being at the mercy of the despot and his corrupt military and police, anyone that wants freedom can actually do something about it. And in fact they are. Except for the , I believe, 3 provinces, it IS generally peaceful in Iraq. And in those areas where the Bathasist and terrorists are fighting they are being turned in and turned on by citizens/tribes/clans, what ever term you prefer, that are TIRED of it. But of course THIS doesnt get play much in the press, well unless it is bad, like if a local group takes some losses for standing up to the terrorists, now that gets press attention, with the dire handwringing and claims that it just doesnt pay to oppose terror. But I suspect most here arent interested in reality and prefer the fantasy the Main Stream press prints and reports. A lot of the readers here would be embarrassed if the REAL news were printed. You can find it, but that would require that you care. Of course this begs the question.... What happens if these people get their dream and the US does abandon Iraq to the terrorists, Iran and Syria? I know the Europeans may not be happy, the US gets very little of her oil from that region, BUT Europe..... After the US abandons another ally, at the insistance of foolish, do me a favor and dont come crying for US help to REInvade and secure the region. BBC is famous for its neutrality and it is also full with bad news of Iraq. Winning hearts and minds would have been the key. But it is too late now. You are wrong if you think that iraqi oil is used mostly in the EU. Guess which country gets that oil almost free of charge? [;)] Not that there is something wrong with it. You get what you conquered. As simple as that. But not in the name of democracy export. Much rather in the name of the stronger. AND I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST that. It is pure realpolitik. In my opinion after finding out that the really extremist and fundamentalist Saudi Arabia supports terrorists on the money recievd from the US for the oil (not only Osama but see 9/11 perpetrators as well) the REAL decisionmakers (NOT the prez) have decided they need another source for oil. Iraq was the best solution (Iran is too big + China and Russia support it, rest does not have sufficient oil). Only problem is they have not set other objectives than to get the oil fields. Well that objective is accomplished but there is unfotunately a country around those fields. There were NO plans when there were time and it is too late now. Due to the failure in Iraq and the slow progress in Afghanistan Huntington's oversimplifcating vision is coming true, but not because he was right but rather because WE (yes you and us) have made it real. And that shows the promise of a really sad future. You can be sure that the donkeys (they are the democrats right?) will recall the troops from Iraq, and the deterring force of the US (along with all of the western world) will suffer a similar blow than the IDF's last summer in Lebanon. Radical muslims will be empowered by it just as anticolonist movements were empowered by the british defeat at Singapore in 42.
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