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Sparrow -> Undocked, Docked or Disbanded (6/15/2007 3:12:53 PM)

For tenders (AR, AD, AS etc) to function in port, what condition must be set?
Docked
Undocked
Or disbanded
[&:]



rtrapasso -> RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded (6/15/2007 3:14:18 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sparrow

For tenders (AR, AD, AS etc) to function in port, what condition must be set?
Docked
Undocked
Or disbanded
[&:]


They work best when disbanded... it is a matter of debate if they work at all when in a TF (either docked or undocked).



hbrsvl -> RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded (6/15/2007 4:08:00 PM)

Hi-Ref.rtrapasso's reply, I've had AS work fine at a port when TFs cannot disband, due to size of port.

Example, in scen. 15, playing as Allies, latest v, in early '42 I've put an AS at Attu, in a TF, docked. My subs returning from patrol DO have their torps replentished.

Hope this works for you. Hugh Browne



rtrapasso -> RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded (6/15/2007 4:11:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: hbrsvl

Hi-Ref.rtrapasso's reply, I've had AS work fine at a port when TFs cannot disband, due to size of port.

Example, in scen. 15, playing as Allies, latest v, in early '42 I've put an AS at Attu, in a TF, docked. My subs returning from patrol DO have their torps replentished.

Hope this works for you. Hugh Browne



Ooops - sorry - i was referring to their REPAIR functions - the other functions (replenishment for AS, AD, support in the case of AVs) work fine if docked (as long as enough supplies are present.)



Anthropoid -> RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded (6/15/2007 4:31:46 PM)

I suppose the same is true for replenishment from MLE and AE.

I understand that in WiTP, AE can replenish at sea, but this is NOT true for War Plan Orange? Anyone know if this is true for certain?



Mistmatz -> RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded (6/15/2007 4:41:00 PM)

AE resupply at sea beginning of '45 iirc and then I believe only for the allies. Before that they only work at base hexes.
Ack on the MLE.



rockmedic109 -> RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded (6/15/2007 4:54:31 PM)

I think AE can only resupply ammo for 5"ers or less while at sea; and only in 1945 or later.



rtrapasso -> RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded (6/15/2007 4:57:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rockmedic109

I think AE can only resupply ammo for 5"ers or less while at sea; and only in 1945 or later.



iirc, it is (all) AA ammo up to 5"ers...



Nikademus -> RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded (6/15/2007 5:02:58 PM)

AR works the same whether docked or disbanded to my knowledge.



rtrapasso -> RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded (6/15/2007 5:04:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Nikademus

AR works the same whether docked or disbanded to my knowledge.


interesting... i've never gotten good results if they were just docked...



Nikademus -> RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded (6/15/2007 5:06:50 PM)

saved a foundering CV that way once. could have been a lucky die roll i suppose. [:D]



Anthropoid -> RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded (6/16/2007 7:46:25 PM)

If a ship has some damage, but needs to go back to a solid port, what is the best kind of ship to escourt it? A DD, or would an AR be even better? I realize being as scarce as they are having an AR to escourt damaged ships might not be the best use of it, but I wonder if it would help a ship that was in risk of not getting home?



Dino -> RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded (6/16/2007 8:17:38 PM)

ARs perform their function only in port.



Nikademus -> RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded (6/18/2007 5:17:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Anthropoid

If a ship has some damage, but needs to go back to a solid port, what is the best kind of ship to escourt it? A DD, or would an AR be even better? I realize being as scarce as they are having an AR to escourt damaged ships might not be the best use of it, but I wonder if it would help a ship that was in risk of not getting home?


as mentioned, AR won't repair while at sea. The best ship to escort with is LOTS of ships [;)]. Make sure you change the TF type to "escort" otherwise the auto-divide routine for crippled ships will divorce the cripple from the majority of it's escort.



Anthropoid -> RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded (6/18/2007 10:05:06 PM)

Thanks guys!



grumpyman -> RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded (7/5/2007 4:19:53 AM)

sorry to butt in on Sparrow's question but do AR not in a shipyard repair any sys damage or does it just help stop flooding?



RUPD3658 -> RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded (7/5/2007 5:36:19 AM)

ARs help with both



Rob Brennan UK -> RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded (7/5/2007 9:03:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nikademus

saved a foundering CV that way once. could have been a lucky die roll i suppose. [:D]


I just lost the BB Pensylvania to flooding and she had 4 AR's docked at a size 2 port. So i don't believe AR's help at all unless disbanded into the port with the damaged ship.

Ironically the port expanded to a 3 the same darn turn [;)]



dtravel -> RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded (7/6/2007 2:29:16 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK


quote:

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

saved a foundering CV that way once. could have been a lucky die roll i suppose. [:D]


I just lost the BB Pensylvania to flooding and she had 4 AR's docked at a size 2 port. So i don't believe AR's help at all unless disbanded into the port with the damaged ship.

Ironically the port expanded to a 3 the same darn turn [;)]

I believe a programmer confirmed some time ago that ARs (and ADs/ASs) must be disbanded in port to work.



grumpyman -> RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded (7/6/2007 4:38:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: dtravel


[I believe a programmer confirmed some time ago that ARs (and ADs/ASs) must be disbanded in port to work.


Dooh!!!



dtravel -> RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded (7/6/2007 4:51:51 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: grumpyman


quote:

ORIGINAL: dtravel


[I believe a programmer confirmed some time ago that ARs (and ADs/ASs) must be disbanded in port to work.


Dooh!!!


I believe this [image]http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4636/1cb2.gif[/image] is the gesture you are looking for. [:D]



hvymtl13 -> RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded (8/29/2007 12:22:52 AM)

Dock them. AR's work just fine docked.. I do see a visible "delay" in repairs beig made at times. It may repair a couple of points damage in a turn for a couple or three turns then stop. Then begin again. Painfully slow but it is perforiming the desired function.
AS and AD's are of course docked also. I've never had any question on there ship type operations working as needed.



Dino -> RE: Undocked, Docked or Disbanded (8/29/2007 8:08:25 PM)

Ships can be repaired without use of ARs, so it's really hard to tell under which conditions ARs preform their function...unless one can look at the code.




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