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bobogoboom -> South Pacific Stratagy - Chicago277 please keep out. (6/28/2007 5:56:08 AM)

It is January 25 1942 in chs 155 and I am the allies. My jap opponent has captured all of the major dei bases except Timor java(he is currently besieging Batavia) and ambrosia. He still hasn't captured Singapore but should be moving into the hex next turn. He has all the major Philippines bases except Clark manilla and Bataan all 3 of those do not have any enemy units in the hex with them. He is also probably one shock attack away from capturing Hong Kong. He just captured Canton Island even though I sunk most of his small invasion fleet. So my question is about the south pacific. I have reinforce luganville with a us artillery reg most of the base force that starts the game at rabal and a New Zealand bde. Pago Pago is stock and Suva is stock plus 2 fas I am moving a Dutch base force I paid political points for to Noumea plus the stock unit that is there.


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bobogoboom -> RE: South Pacific Stratagy - Chicago277 please keep out. (6/28/2007 5:59:28 AM)

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bobogoboom -> RE: South Pacific Stratagy - Chicago277 please keep out. (6/28/2007 6:00:49 AM)

Reinforcements about to show up

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bobogoboom -> RE: South Pacific Stratagy - Chicago277 please keep out. (6/28/2007 6:10:29 AM)

I have sunk these ships
15mw
3dd
6PG
2ML
3PC
39AP
43AK

So my question/thought is should I move the americal us division and the 811 eab to Fiji. The 754 and 102us 198th 812 43 to New Caledonia. I still am not sure if I should move all my units out of pago or leave them. But is my reinforcement strategy to risky have I done enough damage to his heavy lift capability to chance this or am I just moving these units into a death trap? Would I be better served to move these units to other areas? Thoughts ideas and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

P.S. i still have all my carriers plus a brit one that will be in the area very soon.



ctangus -> RE: South Pacific Stratagy - Chicago277 please keep out. (6/28/2007 6:20:46 AM)

Boy - I hope my opponents don't read this... [:D]

It's still very early. At this point in the game I usually try to send one brigade or equivalent to the four major bases in the area along with enough supply to hold out for a couple weeks. Noumea-Nandi-Suva-Pago Pago. That's enough to stop an invasion on the cheap. (An SNLF or two.)

Suva starts with a NZ brigade. The 14th NZ brigade arrives in Auckland about this time. Using PPs you can buy a brigade or two from South Island New Zealand or a RCT from West Coast US.

I then try to build up one area very strongly - Corps size strength. New Caledonia or Samoa have been my choices to date but I might try the Fijis someday. If you have a strongpoint of 3 mutually supporting airfields with 3 divisions or equivalents defending, it will be next-to-impossible for the Japanese to take it. I'm sure I couldn't. If your opponent can - give him some kudos.

Once you've got one stongpoint in the area build up another if you can - again of Corps size strength. By then it'll be mid-42 or so. Depending on how the war's going you can potentially start thinking some small offensive operations.



Bobthehatchit -> RE: South Pacific Stratagy - Chicago277 please keep out. (6/28/2007 1:38:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ctangus

Boy - I hope my opponents don't read this... [:D]

It's still very early. At this point in the game I usually try to send one brigade or equivalent to the four major bases in the area along with enough supply to hold out for a couple weeks. Noumea-Nandi-Suva-Pago Pago. That's enough to stop an invasion on the cheap. (An SNLF or two.)

Suva starts with a NZ brigade. The 14th NZ brigade arrives in Auckland about this time. Using PPs you can buy a brigade or two from South Island New Zealand or a RCT from West Coast US.

I then try to build up one area very strongly - Corps size strength. New Caledonia or Samoa have been my choices to date but I might try the Fijis someday. If you have a strongpoint of 3 mutually supporting airfields with 3 divisions or equivalents defending, it will be next-to-impossible for the Japanese to take it. I'm sure I couldn't. If your opponent can - give him some kudos.

Once you've got one stongpoint in the area build up another if you can - again of Corps size strength. By then it'll be mid-42 or so. Depending on how the war's going you can potentially start thinking some small offensive operations.


A Inf brigade with CD and AA unit and and a naval baseforce should be enough, to disrupt a landing of anything up to a Div in size as long as your forts are coming up nicely. You do not appear to have any mines at these locations either.. PT boats would be helpful too if you do not want to risk a surface compat tf.

I would concentrate on defending new caladonia, Kormac appears to be undefended.... Your enemy could seize that base with SNLF then land several Divisons and threaten your control of the whole Island, and the surrounding bases and lengthen your route to Aus and threaten NZ. CD, mines and pleantly of Beauforts can come in very handy...[sm=00000959.gif]



bobogoboom -> RE: South Pacific Stratagy - Chicago277 please keep out. (6/28/2007 4:42:36 PM)

Thats where i plan on sending that rct hopefully they get there soon.



niceguy2005 -> RE: South Pacific Stratagy - Chicago277 please keep out. (6/28/2007 6:03:30 PM)

I agree that a Bde, CD unit and base force are really about all you need to adequately defend any South Pac base. Japan doesn't really have that much in terms of AV that they can put behind any specific invasion in the South Pacific, unless, they take forces away from the SRA. The best defense for south pac is a strong defense in PI, Malaysia and DEI. If Japan gets to free up forces quickly in the SRA then watch out in India and the South pacific.

That said I do try to plan for the worst....so...I don't think in the opening couple of months the allies have the ability to adequately garrison the entire south pacific. I created what I call the "ripples in a pond defense". [;)] THe premise is that you pick 2-3 bases that are going to be the connecting points for a line of communication stretching from PH all the way to NZ. You get lots of supplies and lots of reinforcements to those bases as quickly as possible and nothing goes anywhere else until those bases are strong and secure. Minimum garrison would be a Bde, with a full division being ideal. Also, I like to send at least one fighter group and one bomber group to that base. The idea is that if Japan invades my strong point it is going to be an extremely bloody affiar for them.

Once secured the base becomes a point of strength from which the Allies radiate power outward, like ripples from a stone being tossed into a pond. Reinforcements get sent from there to outlying islands until a solid defensible postion emerges. Usually the two bases I pick to start with are Palmyra and Suva. However, playing CHS, you are on an extended map so you might choose something other than Suva. Catnon is my 3rd base, but on the extended map I would almost go for Noumea before Canton Is.



bobogoboom -> RE: South Pacific Stratagy - Chicago277 please keep out. (6/28/2007 6:07:08 PM)

canton has already been taken. I am going for palmyra chain suva luganville and new caledonia.



AmiralLaurent -> RE: South Pacific Stratagy - Chicago277 please keep out. (6/28/2007 6:54:58 PM)

Given the list of sunk AP/AK, the lifting Japanese capacity should have been already reduced significantly (depending if the majority of transport hit sank or not).

I think the critical decision to choose where you send reinforcements will depend of the Japanese deployment. Southern Army and Burma Army have around 10 Div and 5-6 Bde/Rgt in stock, don't know how much in CHS, but the idea is that you have a rather small number of big combat units. If you know that most of them are not in the Pacific, a reinforced Bde may hold an atoll. But if Japan may invade an atoll with 3-4 divisions, my advice will be to gather your forces in New Caledonia and one or two other islands.

For example which forces were used to invade Canton ? And where is the KB ?



bobogoboom -> RE: South Pacific Stratagy - Chicago277 please keep out. (6/29/2007 9:08:46 AM)

All ships listed were listed as sunk is my ships sunk screen. canton was taken by just a small snlf force. thought i saw the kb or at least a good portion of it in the dei 5 days ago



KPAX -> RE: South Pacific Stratagy - Chicago277 please keep out. (6/30/2007 12:02:42 AM)

very nice advise.

Yes, it is hard to defend of of this early on.  If the IJN player commites a large amount of assets early on, depleting DEI, etc., it will cost in the long run.  Hurt now ?  Yes, but in the long run, the material might of the USA can not be overcome.



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