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Ike99 -> RE: The Falklands Conflict (8/7/2007 10:44:56 PM)
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GreyFox...What the conflict was about: A military dictatorship needed
to distract the people with a good war and so stoked up an obscure claim that
because they once owned the Falklands for a seven year period between the Spanish
and British ownership, they should have it now.
I must respectfully disagree with you Greyfox. If you understand Spanish...
the people were shouting ¨Military dictatorship no! Malvinas yes!¨ in the
plaza during the war. Not ¨We love you Galteri!¨ The conflict has nothing
to do with the type of government Argentina had or has but (in our view)
land stolen from us. Land stolen 150 years ago, 5 years ago or yesterday.
When it was stolen is not the point. The point is it was stolen.
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GreyFox...Weren't those the fellas that swore to die to the last man
rather than surrender? Only they did, without firing a single shot. I think
they're called war heroes in Argentina.
GreyFox...British veterans will testify the Argentines fought very hard up
to the point of surrender. How else would more British soldiers have been
killed in just a couple months than have died in Iraq in 3 years? Many say
they were suprised by the Argentines. As Judge Dredd said it was hand to hand
and bayonet fighting. The Argentine Army speculates it could have held out
for 2, possibly 3 weeks more but as the British controlled the seas totaly,
the air partially and the outcome was inevitable under these conditions they
ordered surrender. This is why the fighting was very hard and then suddenly not.
Not because the Argentine ground forces were broken. Later after the order
came down to surrender is when you had 300 Argentines surrendering to 6 British
soldiers and so on. The BBC saw this and created the myth that everyone simply
gave up at first shot. The Argentine ground forces fought until they were ordered
to surrender and the majority never even got engaged.
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7th Somersets....It is sad that you believe that there is still a conflict.
I hope that your view is not shared by others.
Well this very statement shows you don´t know much of what is going on with
this conflict. Not suprising really when most can`t find the place on a map.
In defense of Judge Dredd I´m sure when he began this thread he, like most
here it seems, view this as ¨history¨ and not an on going thing because they
are simply not aware that the ¨Falklands Conflict¨ is an ongoing conflict.
Not a historical conflict.
Well if it is an ongoing thing or ¨history¨ and if anyone shares my views
have a look and tell me what you think.
Falkland fear as Argentina steps up show of strength
BRIAN BRADY WESTMINSTER EDITOR
2006
AN INCREASINGLY anxious UK government is closely monitoring a build-up of
Argentinian military strength and a series of confrontations with the RAF
close to the Falkland Islands, Scotland on Sunday can reveal...Downing Street
is facing growing fears for the future of the islands - which were seized back
from Argentinian control in a bloody and symbolic campaign ordered by Margaret
Thatcher almost a quarter of a century ago...Several planes are believed to have
overflown island airspace in a bid to test RAF defences. A number of Falkland
vessels have been seized in waters close to Argentina...But critics warn that
the garrison, which costs more than £110m a year, is hopelessly inadequate for
fending off any renewed threat from abroad...In recent years, the Argentinian air
force has doubled in size, and is now the largest in South America...The Argentine
air force is at least twice the size of that we fought during the Falklands War
and the question has to be asked: how many more aircraft do they need?
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Kirchner's perfect timing
Commentary by Sam Logan for ISN Security Watch (05/04/07)
During his inaugural speech in May 2003, Kirchner proclaimed he was a "presidente malvino,"
meaning his would push to bring the Falkland Islands back under Argentine control....
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Argentina ups the ante in new battle over Falklands
Ewen MacAskill, and Uki Goni and Oliver Balch in Buenos Aires
Friday June 30, 2006
The Guardian
There are three perennial passions in Argentina: football, the tango and the country's claim to the Falkland Islands, Britain's South Atlantic outpost. Even the build-up to Argentina's World Cup game against Germany today failed to entirely deflect attention from what in the last few months has become the hot political issue. In the latest of a series of provocative moves - at least as seen from the Falklands and the Foreign Office - the Argentinian parliament yesterday....
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Clarin
2006
En el acto central para conmemorar el desembarco argentino en las Islas Malvinas, ocurrido el 2 de abril de 1982, el presidente Néstor Kirchner aseguró que la recuperación de ese territorio “es un objetivo permanente e irrenunciable del pueblo argentino” y le pidió perdón a los ex combatientes, muchos de los cuales estaban presentes en el acto....
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Argentina snubs UK over oil deal
By Sophie Arie
03/04/2007
Argentina snubbed Britain yesterday when it announced it was severing an agreement over oil and gas exploration just days ahead of the anniversary of its invasion of the Falkland Islands. The decision, carefully timed for maximum impact before Monday's 25th anniversary of the invasion, signalled a deterioration in relations between the countries.
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Falkland Islands An Unsettled Issue 25 Years After War
Contending Claims by Argentina, Britain Burden Relations as Anniversary Nears
By Monte Reel
Washington Post Foreign Service
Monday, January 8, 2007; Page A11
Last week Argentina aimed yet another rhetorical dart at Britain, publicly reasserting its claim to islands it says were stolen by the English in 1833. The British should be getting the message by now: President Nestor Kirchner's government in the past year has issued official complaints concerning rights to the islands at a rate of more than one per month....The Argentine government has pushed for, and has received, attention from the United Nations, which drafted a committee resolution last year recommending negotiations.
There are many more you can find and even more in Spanish.
So what do you think 7th Somersets? Is it ongoing and does anyone share my opinion?
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