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MineSweeper -> OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/3/2007 8:37:39 PM)
I am sure the pilot caught some flak about this flyover[;)] Photo taken from CVN Stennis.... [image]local://upfiles/22347/6206EFF2BFA54166AB6B29569B7621D8.jpg[/image]

Yamato hugger -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/3/2007 8:39:50 PM)
Thats Maverick and Goose [:D]

USSAmerica -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/3/2007 8:45:56 PM)
On one of my deployments on board USS America, we had an F-14 and an F-18 do supersonic fly-byes. When they are that close, and that low, it's incredibly impressive to "feel" the sonic boom. [X(][&o]

mikemike -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/3/2007 9:32:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: USS America On one of my deployments on board USS America, we had an F-14 and an F-18 do supersonic fly-byes. When they are that close, and that low, it's incredibly impressive to "feel" the sonic boom. [X(][&o] I remember visiting a local airshow in the early sixties. A pair of F-102s (from Ramstein?) made low high-speed passes along the runway, then lighting off their afterburners for a near-vertical climb. Every time the 'burners lit, there was a bang that you could feel physically, like a soft punch in the belly. Another program point was a Lufthansa Boeing 720 that during its low pass touched alternate main gears to the runway (hopping from one foot to the other, you might say). There is a story that a Lufthansa 720 crashed when its crew tried to loop it and Lufthansa stopped participating in airshows afterwards.

Apollo11 -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/3/2007 9:38:58 PM)
Hi all, quote: ORIGINAL: USS America On one of my deployments on board USS America, we had an F-14 and an F-18 do supersonic fly-byes. When they are that close, and that low, it's incredibly impressive to "feel" the sonic boom. [X(][&o] Were those stunts official or punishable (i.e. I am asking whether US Navy toleraterd such things) ? Leo "Apolo11"

USSAmerica -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/3/2007 10:02:37 PM)
In my case, it was a scheduled "event" for the ship's crew to enjoy. [8D] It was official.

ChezDaJez -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/3/2007 10:03:39 PM)
quote: Were those stunts official or punishable (i.e. I am asking whether US Navy toleraterd such things) ? Officially, impromptu airshows were not tolerated unless of course the skipper wanted to do it then everything was ok. But, as always happens in the real world, someone takes a picture, posts it on the internet and pretty soon the skipper gets a "talking to." When I was on deployment to Sicily back in 1974, the Harrier had just joined the fleet. It was quite a novelty to see them come in, hover and then land at Sigonella. The USMC skipper of the Harrier unit decided to "demonstrate" the capabilities of the Harrier to us squids. He put on a very impressive airshow. He would come screaming over the runway at about 500kts, suddenly slow to a stop, pivot while hovering and head back the other way while accelerating as fast as he could. He flew it forwards, backwards and sideways. Very impressive... right until the point where he decided to hover taxi to the ramp and land it. The only problem was he forgot to put the gear down! I distinctly remember the sound of his engine going to full power the moment he realized the gear wasn't down but it was too late. He shut off the engines and got out of it quick. Very little damage to the Harrier... a broken antenna and a couple of dents and scratched paint but I think there was considerable damage to his pride and possibly his career! The real funny part was when the Marine ground crew ran around trying to confiscate everyone's cameras for the "official" investigation.... yeah, right! Chez

msieving1 -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/4/2007 1:03:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MineSweeper I am sure the pilot caught some flak about this flyover[;)] Photo taken from CVN Stennis.... Someone posted a link to this picture on rec.aviation.military a little while ago, with the same thought. There were several people who came back with details, though. The exhibition was planned and fully authorized. IIRC, the guy standing there with his hands behind is back is an admiral.

String -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/4/2007 1:21:53 AM)
It gives a good sense of scale..

RevRick -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/4/2007 4:46:54 AM)
I got that picture a couple of years ago... the same time I got this one... [image]local://upfiles/1228/8892023BED1046D9A812EE9F0C9A7654.jpg[/image]

Ian R -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/4/2007 6:26:44 AM)
What is the actual altitude of the B1? It looks like 2-3 "man lengths" ie 4-6 metres, but looks can be deceiving.

tsimmonds -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/4/2007 6:29:19 AM)
That pic is heavily doctored. Not saying there isn't an a/c there, but there is fishy stuff going on....

Ian R -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/4/2007 6:35:44 AM)
Well if it is real a few fish are getting the ride of their lives, possibly the last one [8\|]

Apollo11 -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/4/2007 12:20:10 PM)
Hi all, quote: ORIGINAL: Ian R Well if it is real a few fish are getting the ride of their lives, possibly the last one [8\|] Would they also be cooked? [:D] Leo "Apollo11"

rockmedic109 -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/4/2007 1:50:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: USS America On one of my deployments on board USS America, we had an F-14 and an F-18 do supersonic fly-byes. When they are that close, and that low, it's incredibly impressive to "feel" the sonic boom. [X(][&o] Some terrorists took over a train in Holland, in the 70s I believe. The hostage rescue team coordinated their break-in to come right after a low, high-speed flyby of a pair of F-4s lighting their burners over the top of the train. Kinda like an early model flash-bang grenade.

wdolson -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/4/2007 2:27:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: irrelevant That pic is heavily doctored. Not saying there isn't an a/c there, but there is fishy stuff going on.... I've also seen a version of that B-1 picture with a guy water skiing in back of the plane (obvious Photoshop job). I think I read somewhere that the B-1 picture (undoctored) is actually a painting. That picture has been around a while, I remember seeing it in the early 90s. Bill

Terminus -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/4/2007 2:30:01 PM)
Looks like a computer graphics job to me...

Howard Mitchell -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/5/2007 9:51:10 PM)
The B-1 picture is a (very dramatic) painting by Dru Blair. You can find it and others at http://www.aviationarthangar.com/b2spst.html

Wolfie1 -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/5/2007 11:36:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RevRick I got that picture a couple of years ago... the same time I got this one... [image]local://upfiles/1228/8892023BED1046D9A812EE9F0C9A7654.jpg[/image] That one reminds me of when I worked in an office about 2 miles from the British Aerospace factory, it was about 1988 and a test pilot was on his last day before retirement - he took a Lightning up and basically broke every rule in the book. Every window in the canteen blew from the sonic boom and I watched him come down the river Ribble so low he was leaving a wake - just like that pic[:D]

wild_Willie2 -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/5/2007 11:37:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rockmedic109 quote: ORIGINAL: USS America On one of my deployments on board USS America, we had an F-14 and an F-18 do supersonic fly-byes. When they are that close, and that low, it's incredibly impressive to "feel" the sonic boom. [X(][&o] Some terrorists took over a train in Holland, in the 70s I believe. The hostage rescue team coordinated their break-in to come right after a low, high-speed flyby of a pair of F-4s lighting their burners over the top of the train. Kinda like an early model flash-bang grenade. They where F 104's, Talk about a plane that could ONLY go fast.....

Wolfie1 -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/5/2007 11:41:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: wild_Willie2 quote: ORIGINAL: rockmedic109 quote: ORIGINAL: USS America On one of my deployments on board USS America, we had an F-14 and an F-18 do supersonic fly-byes. When they are that close, and that low, it's incredibly impressive to "feel" the sonic boom. [X(][&o] Some terrorists took over a train in Holland, in the 70s I believe. The hostage rescue team coordinated their break-in to come right after a low, high-speed flyby of a pair of F-4s lighting their burners over the top of the train. Kinda like an early model flash-bang grenade. They where F 104's, Talk about a plane that could ONLY go fast..... Try and turn it and you're in trouble[;)]

wdolson -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/6/2007 12:35:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wolfie1 That one reminds me of when I worked in an office about 2 miles from the British Aerospace factory, it was about 1988 and a test pilot was on his last day before retirement - he took a Lightning up and basically broke every rule in the book. Every window in the canteen blew from the sonic boom and I watched him come down the river Ribble so low he was leaving a wake - just like that pic[:D] I worked an air show every year when I was in college. Most of the time I worked on the announcer's stand feeding data to the guy telling the crowd about the aircraft, so I was kind of at the center of things. One year we had a newly restored F-86 that had just gotten it's airworthiness certificate. The owner loaned the plane to a test pilot for Lockheed who after a few fly bys with some other aircraft radioed the tower that he had a bit of extra fuel and would it be OK if he did a few extra fly bys. He got the go ahead and proceded to beat up the field from one end to the other violating every FAA rule for airshows including knife edges right over the heads of the crowd. (It was one of the best air show performances I'd ever seen.) The FAA people were furious and almost shut down the air show. I heard later that the FAA tried like mad to pull the guy's license for several months afterwards but found the DoD prevented it at every turn. A few years later, I put 2 and 2 together. This was right in the middle of the F-117 test program and this guy was probably vital to the program. He knew that he could do anything he wanted to and the FAA wouldn't be able to do squat about it. The first year I didn't go to the airshow, the F-86 met a tragic end. The owner was flying it and had a flame out right after take off. There was a freshly plowed field just past the runway he could have bellied in, but he tried to turn at low altitude with no power, stalled, caught a wing tip and cart wheeled down the runway. The F-86 was reduced to scrap metal and the pilot killed. Bill

CJ Martin -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/6/2007 3:11:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MineSweeper I am sure the pilot caught some flak about this flyover[;)] Photo taken from CVN Stennis.... Wrong on both counts. This picture was taken on the USS America during a dependents day cruise in 1989. The pilot was Dale "Snort" Snodgrass, then XO of VF-33. http://www.sponauer.com/snodgrass/index.html -CJ

Raverdave -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/6/2007 6:17:44 AM)
Thx CJ, that was an interesting read.

TheElf -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/8/2007 12:39:16 AM)
I've met Snort several times. He was finishing up at Fighter wing When I was starting my Navy Career. I had a hand in producing his retirement video. Still have a copy. Pretty Eye watering. And I mean the flying...

timtom -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/8/2007 9:01:01 PM)
Wonder what's going through the backseater's mind? [:D] [image]local://upfiles/8484/D18AFC2FBEEC4CB79580DB3E8004F540.jpg[/image]

Dunedain -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/9/2007 9:56:54 AM)
Probably something along the lines of, "Oh God, please don't let Dale make even the smallest mistake or anything go wrong with the plane!". :)

Terminus -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/9/2007 11:49:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CJ Martin quote: ORIGINAL: MineSweeper I am sure the pilot caught some flak about this flyover[;)] Photo taken from CVN Stennis.... Wrong on both counts. This picture was taken on the USS America during a dependents day cruise in 1989. The pilot was Dale "Snort" Snodgrass, then XO of VF-33. http://www.sponauer.com/snodgrass/index.html -CJ Thank you! I thought I'd seen that picture before, earlier than the Stennis.

Apollo11 -> RE: OT-Super Low flying F-14 (8/9/2007 11:51:54 AM)
Hi all, quote: ORIGINAL: timtom Wonder what's going through the backseater's mind? [:D] Probably: I don't want to swim today!!! [8D] Leo "Apollo11"

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