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BaseballNoob -> Winning Pitcher Determination (10/17/2007 6:44:54 AM)

Does this make sense?

In my recent (and rare) victory, my pitcher that was given the win only pitched one inning and faced 3 batters. Is there not a minimum appearance required to be given the win?




evilmonkeycmand -> RE: Winning Pitcher Determination (10/17/2007 7:15:30 AM)

It does indeed make since. All a pitcher needs to do to pick up a win is be the pitcher at the time your team takes the final lead.




evilmonkeycmand -> RE: Winning Pitcher Determination (10/17/2007 7:16:18 AM)

However, this game tends to be buggy with respect to wins when the starting pitcher gets injured... generally, even if that pitcher should have gotten the win, it gives it to the reliever.




Frozen Stiffer -> RE: Winning Pitcher Determination (10/17/2007 7:26:31 AM)

Noob,

The starting pitcher must pitch at least 5 full innings to "earn" the win. Relief pitchers may earn the victory if your team takes (and holds) the lead while they are considered the "active" pitcher (I don't know if they use the term "active" or something similar, but the point is the same).

Let's say the game is tied going into the top of the 8th inning. Your starting pitcher Frank Fastball tossed the first 7 innings but he leaves the game with a tied score. He pitched more than 5 innings but your team didn't earn or take the lead.

As you come into the top of the 8th inning, your relief pitcher, Joe Hurler, gets the call and retires the side. In the bottom of that inning your team takes a 1-run lead. Right now, Joe Hurler is the pitcher-on-record to earn the win. In the top of the 9th, Carl Closer gets the nod and sits the opponent's batters 1-2-3.

The Results? Frank Fastball gets a no-decision. Joe Hurler gets the win. Carl Closer gets the save.

It's all a matter of who is the pitcher-on-record when your team takes the lead. Of course, they need to hold that same lead in order for that pitcher to earn the win. In other words, in the example above, let's say Carl Closer blows the save and the other team ties up the game. You call Rick Reliever in to pitch the 10th and after he keeps the other team hitless, your team takes another lead. Assuming that lead stuck, it would be Rick Reliever who earns the win. He was the pitcher-on-record when your team took the lead.

Finally, and this one's a bit fun. Same example above, but this time Carl Closer blows the save. In the top of the 9th, he allows the other team to tie the game. In the bottom of the ninth, you score the winning run. Everyone else gets a no-decision. Carl Closer gets both the Blown Save and the win.

Ain't baseball just grand?




BaseballNoob -> RE: Winning Pitcher Determination (10/17/2007 7:41:37 AM)

Thanks for the great explanations! I think I will now understand why it gives me the win (on the rare occassion that my 5-22 team gets one).




BleacherBum -> RE: Winning Pitcher Determination (10/17/2007 8:07:30 PM)

And one other point. If the starting pitcher leaves the game with a lead before completing 5 innings, and that lead is never relinquished by the relievers, then the official scorekeeper decides who among the relievers deserves credit for the win.




Frozen Stiffer -> RE: Winning Pitcher Determination (10/17/2007 10:11:44 PM)

That's an interesting point, BleacherBum. I wonder how PureSim determines this...?




BaseballNoob -> RE: Winning Pitcher Determination (10/17/2007 10:31:03 PM)

I sure hope the official scorekeeper isn't that guy that announces each batter. I think there's something wrong with his voice....




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