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ColinWright -> RE: ..wot's a tin mining area ?.. (12/1/2007 8:20:07 PM)
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..then of course we have the cooking fires for the thousands of chinese labourers and their families digging the stuff..what do they use ?
This would explain why cities have such terrible trouble maintaining parks. All those dastardly Chinese keep coming in and chopping up the trees for firewood.
You know, modern economies are rather complex, and things tend to get moved around. You might as well start discussing the need for thousands of acres of rice paddies in the area. Actually...
..modern cities, modern westernised cities have electricity, bottled gas, and the like, this is an area that's been smelting tin, and feeding the workers from the around 1870 to my present day, ie 1941..
..and the main rice area for Malaya is top left, the flat bit that sticks out into Thailand, altho by the 1960's there's been some development south of KL, which is irrelevant to the period under consideration..
..you see Ben, all economies are complex, all that changes are the goods being traded, how many coal depots where you live ? and how many in mmmm 1950 ? 1930 ? How about Horse Feed traders around you now, and in 1930, and in 1880 ?
Yes, Richard. Point is that in the twentieth century -- even in Malaya -- food could be and routinely was transported over large distances. So can fuel. One can assume that the tin mines found it more efficient to keep their tin miners mining tin than force them to spend half the day going about the countryside defoliating it.
..yahh, they just got in more labourers to chop down the trees, so more families and with your system, an accurate one, we now have double the wood use for domestic purposes, then we get onto how many tons of wood, actually charcoal, it takes to make one ton of tin ?..
..food over large distances is hardly new, try the Roman Empire and the grain shipments
It's true that the Romans engaged in large-scale, long-distance food transport -- but only by sea, so far as I know.
Certainly it was in the modern era that it became practicable everywhere. It was the British introduction of railways that spelled the end to the traditional large-scale famines that had always been a feature of life in India up until that point. Admittedly, actually feeling a need to do something about the problem might have also played a role.
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