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Hortlund -> RE: Best fighter in WW2??? (11/29/2007 9:42:23 PM)
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ORIGINAL: mdiehl
At 30-40K feet the P47 was faster, could dive faster, could accelerate faster, could hit harder, could survive damage better, could out roll, out turn, out accelerate, out shine, out luster, and out dance any ME 109 ever made or dreamed of. And then after shredding a few 109s, it could land, reload and bust a train full of nazis with relative impunity compared to any 109.
Heh, you seem to hold the same level of knowledge on this subject as the one in the general forum.. Perhaps you missed that I wrote P-47C? Of cource you didnt, but still you must be quoting P-47N specs. Or maybe you are just making stuff up again?
Anyway, lets look at the stats.
P-47C
Entered service in September 1942. Plagued with problems recovering from high-speed dives (severe elevator compression at speeds above 500 mph).
Max speed at 30 000 feet was 353 mph.
Climb rate 2780 feet/min.
Ceiling 42000 feet.
Me 109K-10
Never had time to enter serial production, several prototypes made and some saw combat however. But lets compare with the K-4 that saw plenty of service though. K-4 entered service in October 1944. Already here you should realize just how stupid it is to try to compare the two, since K-4 is an entire generation newer than the P-47C.
Me109K-4
Max speed 445 mph at 25 000 feet
Rate of climb 5 800 feet/min
Ceiling 41 000 feet
So, if we look at these stats, a clear picture emerges. And no mdiehl, that picture is not that the P-47C would outshine the 109. Look at the climb-rate, that btw is also a function of acceleration. In a dogfight, the Me109 is faster and has an enormous climb advantage. That means the Me109K-4 will BnZ the P-47C until its dead.
Roll rates were tricky to find, in fact I could not dig them up with short notice, but we can look at sustained turn instead. The P-47C takes 25.5 seconds to do a 360 at 332 kph, the Me 109K-4 takes 21.5 seconds. Now, I know that this is not the same as roll-rate, but it gives an indication of general agility of the aircraft (for comparrison the number for the Zero is 18 seconds, and Spitfire I takes 19 seconds).
So, we have the Me109 K-4 being faster, better turn rate, much much better climb rate. Despite this you sit here and yap about the P-47C dancing around the Me 109K-4 at altitiude? That leaves two options. You either dont know what you are talking about, or you are making s hit up to fit your argument. Which is it?
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