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cdbeck -> RE: The world according to the french (12/15/2007 8:06:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Charles_22

Son_of_Montfort:
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I assume Africa could only be shaped like a giant face of Cecil Rhodes, wearing a diamond bow-tie where South African would be.


I'm not sure who that is, but that's some imagination it took to come up with that.


Here is the wikipedia article, for what it is worth: Cecil Rhodes

Rhodes was an integral figure in British Imperialism, particularly in Africa. In fact, much of the southern tip of Africa was made into a territory called "Rhodesia" because of his influence. Also, the modern day "Rhodes Scholar" at Oxford comes from a trust set up by his will. He is one of the major causes for the current state of the former British colonies in Africa, both good and bad, and expanded the British empire's influence and economy.

SoM




Charles2222 -> RE: The world according to the french (12/16/2007 12:27:03 PM)

No wonder.





roeddog -> RE: The world according to the french (12/16/2007 7:06:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Charles_22


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ORIGINAL: Skip_Reed

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ORIGINAL: Charles_22
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ORIGINAL: HansBolter
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ORIGINAL: Raverdave
Small ? Ha ! You could fit all of europe and the middle east into OZ and still have room left over.

Please enlighten an ignorant Yank.

I was under the apparently mistaken impression that OZ was the mythical, mystical place the twister carried Dorothy and Toto off to. [sm=00000280.gif]

Very appropriate emoticon there Hans, only I don't recall Dorothy doing in spin-dancing therein, but I could be wrong. Surely there must be a WoO historian among us? What are we to do if we do not?

I may not be a WoO historian but any child of the 40's and 50's can tell you of the enchantment of seeing the House spin off into the air with Margret Hamilton changing into the Wicked Witch of the West from the nasty schoolteacher in black and white and suddenly being greeted by a color version of OZ!! Magical! After having to use our imagination for so many years [:)] (Book 1900, Film 1939 re-released 1949, 55, & Color TV 1956) So tis only a figure that Dorothy and Toto did the spinning though they were in a spinning house and can be said to have spun without contradiction.


But they could had been in the house, spiining in the opposite direction, such as it would appear in the house. But if you could see through the house, reverse spinning would place them on some sort of paradimical standstill, such that they appeared not to be spinning, or so I reason[:D], such that the people spinning would work as an effective counter-balance to the house spinning. You doubt me? Well how do people spinning in such a house, without counter-spin, otherwise come out of it without even a headache?

I wasn't born until '59, but though WoO was a pretty decent movie, especially for kids, "Somewhere over the Rainbow" song as sung by Judy had to be one of the most beautiful iconic songs ever sang. I don't know if the writer of that song meant it that way, but it is one of those songs that can be imagined to not actually be singing of Oz, but instead of Heaven, which in my mind makes it a bit more special than it otherwise would be. One thing I can say, I don't think I have ever heard a song by a teenager which will ever sound so good to me. I will always remember it and feel I have really been blessed when out of nowhere I hear it some place. I'm not a big listener of Judy Garland, but i have never heard her sing anything that was even half as appealing as that song has been. One hit wonder pretty much,



I have to agree with you Charles_22. I was born in '59 too, and my mother was a huge fan of Judy Garland and daughter Liza Minelli so I got to hear both... alot! Judy's best was definately "SOtR" I don't think she ever reached that plateau in her singing again. As for daughter Liza, IMO she lived off her mothers fame; not my cup of tea.

Jeff




Big B -> RE: The world according to the french (12/17/2007 3:40:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Jeffrey H.

The one that I think is really good is the Australian one with the World upside-down. Or at least it looks that way to those of us that are used to seeing it with the Northern hemisphere on top.

Just think, if some space civ came to Earth, what if they first saw it from a South is up perspective ? Would all of their maps and globes show it that way ?

Well, the obvious answer to that would be any alien race intelligent enough to find and travel to Earth - would know North from South![sm=00000289.gif]




Ursa MAior -> RE: The world according to the french (12/17/2007 8:36:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Neilster

We did. It was called post-war migration. We're having a crack at Asia and Africa now. One or two problems but our food's a lot better! Plus I've always fancied dusky, exotic chicks...so no complaints on that front either. [:'(]

Cheers, Neilster



A lot better? I am in love with Oz, especially the girls on Bondi beach! Or that little holiday resort called Sorrento! But mate that vegemite is the worst food I have ever eaten it is even surpassing the big fly I accidentally swallowed while riding a scooter with no helmet!




Raverdave -> RE: The world according to the french (12/17/2007 9:04:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Ursa MAior

Or that little holiday resort called Sorrento!




Hey! Sorrento is just down the road from me...I'm in Mornington. [8D]




Raverdave -> RE: The world according to the french (12/17/2007 9:06:59 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Big B


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ORIGINAL: Jeffrey H.

The one that I think is really good is the Australian one with the World upside-down. Or at least it looks that way to those of us that are used to seeing it with the Northern hemisphere on top.

Just think, if some space civ came to Earth, what if they first saw it from a South is up perspective ? Would all of their maps and globes show it that way ?

Well, the obvious answer to that would be any alien race intelligent enough to find and travel to Earth - would know North from South![sm=00000289.gif]


Actually they just might...or the alien version of it. The earths magnetic field flows out of the "North" and "South". Even the Sun has a "North" and "South"




Ursa MAior -> RE: The world according to the french (12/17/2007 9:33:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Raverdave

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ORIGINAL: Ursa MAior

Or that little holiday resort called Sorrento!




Hey! Sorrento is just down the road from me...I'm in Mornington. [8D]


Good for you! If I ever grow up I want to be rich enough to spend the januarys there. IIRC Hotel Ozone is there, we had a marvellous lunch there some 15 yrs ago.




cdbeck -> RE: The world according to the french (12/17/2007 11:45:06 PM)

Do you realize that you people are a little like Faulkner with the Stream of Conciousness here.

We went from Map of France, to North-South Map, to South-is-up and Australia is big, to Australia is called Oz, to Oz is in Wizard of Oz and Oz TV show, to Wizard of Oz was revolutionary, to Judy Garland was in Wizard of Oz, to Judy Garland is a great singer.

Somewhere I threw in Cecil Rhodes, just for good measure.

I think we all need some help. [;)]

SoM




Twotribes -> RE: The world according to the french (12/18/2007 4:08:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Son_of_Montfort

Do you realize that you people are a little like Faulkner with the Stream of Conciousness here.

We went from Map of France, to North-South Map, to South-is-up and Australia is big, to Australia is called Oz, to Oz is in Wizard of Oz and Oz TV show, to Wizard of Oz was revolutionary, to Judy Garland was in Wizard of Oz, to Judy Garland is a great singer.

Somewhere I threw in Cecil Rhodes, just for good measure.

I think we all need some help. [;)]

SoM


They are all connected right? So whats the problem ? ) LOL

We are just the internet version of whispering something to a guy that has to send it down a chain of guys with whispers and at the end you get....




Sarge -> RE: The world according to the french (12/18/2007 4:18:48 AM)

I like cheese ...........




06 Maestro -> RE: The world according to the french (12/18/2007 4:25:35 AM)

I prefer Italian cheese over Australian cheese any day-even if OZ is on top of the world.




Raverdave -> RE: The world according to the french (12/18/2007 7:32:32 AM)

Ah but you have never tasted cheese made on a small Island in Bass Strait called Flinders Island.  Yum !




06 Maestro -> RE: The world according to the french (12/18/2007 7:44:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Raverdave

Ah but you have never tasted cheese made on a small Island in Bass Strait called Flinders Island.  Yum !



So, do I go to Lady Barron for the Cheese? Is she expensive?
I live on the edge once in a while.




morvwilson -> RE: The world according to the french (12/18/2007 8:53:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: 06 Maestro


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ORIGINAL: Raverdave

Ah but you have never tasted cheese made on a small Island in Bass Strait called Flinders Island.  Yum !



So, do I go to Lady Barron for the Cheese? Is she expensive?
I live on the edge once in a while.

Forgive me, but when your mind is as twisted as mine, there is only one question to ask.

when did Lady Barron cut the cheese?




SemperAugustus -> RE: The world according to the french (12/18/2007 11:15:10 AM)

Do all Australian maps have south as up? It would be silly if only the world map is like that.




Neilster -> RE: The world according to the french (12/19/2007 12:34:14 AM)

Right...clearing a few things up. Vegemite has been produced since about the 1920s so we can't blame post-war migration for that one. Anyway, it's an acquired taste (certainly unusual but I really like it) and very healthy. Most tourists who try it slather on far too much (it's powerful stuff) and freak out.

Aliens would most probably have a concept of magnetic North and South but it could be opposite to ours, so the map above would look "normal" to them.

Australian maps have north as up. Some Tasmanian maps have a huge Tasmania with a tiny mainland Australia above it (usually labelled "The North Island") for a joke. It's hard to explain. Folk can be a little odd here...but friendly. [;)]

Tasmanian cheese is very good. As is the seafood, truffles, wine, vegetables, beef, venison, wasabi, beer...well anything edible or drinkable really. [;)]

Cheers, Neilster




cdbeck -> RE: The world according to the french (12/19/2007 12:44:32 AM)

"I said do you speaka my language, he just smiled and gave me a Vegemite Sandwich."

[8D]

SoM




Charles2222 -> RE: The world according to the french (12/19/2007 11:06:23 AM)


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ORIGINAL: roeddog


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ORIGINAL: Charles_22


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ORIGINAL: Skip_Reed

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ORIGINAL: Charles_22
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ORIGINAL: HansBolter
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ORIGINAL: Raverdave
Small ? Ha ! You could fit all of europe and the middle east into OZ and still have room left over.

Please enlighten an ignorant Yank.

I was under the apparently mistaken impression that OZ was the mythical, mystical place the twister carried Dorothy and Toto off to. [sm=00000280.gif]

Very appropriate emoticon there Hans, only I don't recall Dorothy doing in spin-dancing therein, but I could be wrong. Surely there must be a WoO historian among us? What are we to do if we do not?

I may not be a WoO historian but any child of the 40's and 50's can tell you of the enchantment of seeing the House spin off into the air with Margret Hamilton changing into the Wicked Witch of the West from the nasty schoolteacher in black and white and suddenly being greeted by a color version of OZ!! Magical! After having to use our imagination for so many years [:)] (Book 1900, Film 1939 re-released 1949, 55, & Color TV 1956) So tis only a figure that Dorothy and Toto did the spinning though they were in a spinning house and can be said to have spun without contradiction.


But they could had been in the house, spiining in the opposite direction, such as it would appear in the house. But if you could see through the house, reverse spinning would place them on some sort of paradimical standstill, such that they appeared not to be spinning, or so I reason[:D], such that the people spinning would work as an effective counter-balance to the house spinning. You doubt me? Well how do people spinning in such a house, without counter-spin, otherwise come out of it without even a headache?

I wasn't born until '59, but though WoO was a pretty decent movie, especially for kids, "Somewhere over the Rainbow" song as sung by Judy had to be one of the most beautiful iconic songs ever sang. I don't know if the writer of that song meant it that way, but it is one of those songs that can be imagined to not actually be singing of Oz, but instead of Heaven, which in my mind makes it a bit more special than it otherwise would be. One thing I can say, I don't think I have ever heard a song by a teenager which will ever sound so good to me. I will always remember it and feel I have really been blessed when out of nowhere I hear it some place. I'm not a big listener of Judy Garland, but i have never heard her sing anything that was even half as appealing as that song has been. One hit wonder pretty much,



I have to agree with you Charles_22. I was born in '59 too, and my mother was a huge fan of Judy Garland and daughter Liza Minelli so I got to hear both... alot! Judy's best was definately "SOtR" I don't think she ever reached that plateau in her singing again. As for daughter Liza, IMO she lived off her mothers fame; not my cup of tea.

Jeff


Boy, shows how much I know about the old stars. I had no idea Liza was her daughter. I always couldn't stand Liza, though I guess she did well enough in the Arthur movies.

I heard SoTR on a local radio station a couple of times recently and then after I wrote the earlier post I listened to that sing on youtube, actually from the movie. She still sounded good, but not half as good as what I heard on the radio. I suppose the version I heard on the radio was a new cut single when she got older, and I mistaked that for WoO version. Can you imagine how many thousands of times she had to sing that song? Actually in the movie she sings it before she goes to Oz, so that lends a little more credence to the notion that it's a song about Heaven instead. As I said, I doubt that was the intent, but it is inevitably a song about getting away from the hurt of the present world.




JudgeDredd -> RE: The world according to the french (12/19/2007 12:59:57 PM)

Awesome song SoM




Neilster -> RE: The world according to the french (12/19/2007 3:50:41 PM)

Yeah...not a bad track...good when one is out on the turps and Australia has just beaten someone at international sport. Warning! Silly, cheap-arse early 80s film clip.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DNT7uZf7lew

Cheers, Neilster




JudgeDredd -> RE: The world according to the french (12/19/2007 4:10:18 PM)

Here's another one (same guy) on the superb US series Scrubs...fantastic
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RZ45xrtNnzk




JudgeDredd -> RE: The world according to the french (12/19/2007 4:17:56 PM)

And if you wanted to question the mans talent
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SuXLElEDEKI




cdbeck -> RE: The world according to the french (12/20/2007 7:07:26 AM)

That Overkill thing on Scrubs was fantastic! I have it on the DVD and it was amazing.

My personal Colin Hay favorite is "Any minute now... my ship is coming in. I keep checking the horizon. I'll stand on the bow, see the waves crash in. Come crashing down, down, down... on me."

Scrubs also did a full cast version of this song... very touching, as it was about a woman dying.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=77VBBU1RNWo

Breathtaking.

SoM




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