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Wolfpack_MatrixForum -> RE: Brainstorm (12/13/2008 1:05:07 AM)

Those of us that know you(or at least think we do) are not suprised at all. [:'(] I have seen such mistakes before.

I am open to the 2x2 if openings still exist.



John 3rd -> RE: Brainstorm (12/13/2008 1:49:11 AM)

THANKS for the vote of confidence Mister! 

OK--Things are shaping up nicely.  Q-Ball and me versus Wolfpack and ???  I'll vouch for Wolfpack's strength as a player, I kicked his BUTTOCKS in a Stock Campaign for a long time.  Got into 1945 didn't we???

Doing a 2x2 is a lot of fun but it can be frustrating too due to having to pass the turn back-and-forth between partners before kicking it to the other side.  Once one gets started though it is fun to have running conversations between the players (via AAR perhaps) about set-up, tactics, and strategy.




Wolfpack_MatrixForum -> RE: Brainstorm (12/13/2008 2:11:14 AM)

Feb 45 as me being an overly cautious player. I worried too much about losses and yet have learned for the Allies to recover you must attrit the japanese until you strength comes into play. I assure you that I learn from mistakes and plan on making new ones this time around! [:D]






kfmiller41 -> RE: Brainstorm (12/13/2008 2:56:44 AM)

Well after reading some of the posts in this thread i feel like a total newb, even though i am not[:D] but I have never played Big bs mod and would definetly rather play as allied against 2 players that know the production system as well as you guys. If wolfpack doesn't mind i am willing to join the good side and punish the evil empire[8|]



John 3rd -> 2x2 Set-Up (12/13/2008 4:12:18 PM)

We have our sides for a new 2x2!  Miller--Paul Layne and Michael Benoit are going to be the Allied Players.  Michael had jumped in with an email before I had a chance to see your note on the AAR.  I hope you don't mind.  Perhaps Wolfpack and NY GIants can include you! 

We are going to come-up with an AAR title and then start respective AARs for people to read.  Thanks for the PMs and Emails from prospective players!






Q-Ball -> RE: 2x2 Set-Up (12/13/2008 7:38:31 PM)

Looking forward to it! Never done a 2x2!



ny59giants -> RE: 2x2 Set-Up (12/13/2008 9:56:13 PM)

I've started to do some PM with Paul to determine who is doing what on the Allied side.

What HR are we going to have besides the standard ones??
No 4e bombers below 10k
PDU on
ASW TF size 6 ships
Sub evac = ok. Sub invasion = not ok.
Invasions only on base or dot hexes.
Allied player may only give orders to Allied warships (not AK/AP) already at sea on turn 1
What restrictions on CV TF size, if any??
What else??



Q-Ball -> RE: 2x2 Set-Up (12/13/2008 10:02:29 PM)

PT boats should be kept to 6 per TF, and no mixing. Other than that I think you covered the basics.

The only category you didn't mention is if there are any HQ restrictions/movement restrictions around troops in China.

I have never used AB's map, and I am having some trouble installing it. May need a little help there. I pretty computer illiterate, I am sure it's operator error.



ny59giants -> RE: 2x2 Set-Up (12/13/2008 10:18:32 PM)

quote:

The only category you didn't mention is if there are any HQ restrictions/movement restrictions around troops in China.


I took over a game as the Allies against Damian in 5/42 due to conflicts over his former Allied player sending Chinese troops into Vietnam without changing commands. Thus, IMO, the Allied player should do so in the future (and to Burma/India). It was also a Big B mod game and I was able to prevent a successful invasion of India. However, I did lose 3 American CVs in the South Pacific. [:(]

quote:

I have never used AB's map, and I am having some trouble installing it. May need a little help there. I pretty computer illiterate, I am sure it's operator error.


You and John should be like "two peas in a pod" over this. [sm=00000280.gif]

Edit: Follow the map install directions from Andrew's website.
http://www.bur.st/~akbrown/witp.html



Big B -> RE: 2x2 Set-Up (12/13/2008 11:10:34 PM)

Have you guys started yet?


B



ny59giants -> RE: 2x2 Set-Up (12/13/2008 11:23:56 PM)

Not yet, just going through the preparations for it. 



Big B -> RE: 2x2 Set-Up (12/13/2008 11:28:00 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Not yet, just going through the preparations for it. 

Well, if you guys are going to start - can I offer you a 1.5 version with an aircraft oversight or two cleaned up?
I discovered a couple of typos that have nagged me for a while, and I can email whomever is going to play an error cleaned up version?

B

EDIT if you guys decide to go ahead and want a new version, PM me and I will email 1.5 to you.



kfmiller41 -> RE: 2x2 Set-Up (12/13/2008 11:41:01 PM)

Oh well, maybe next time, one day I want to try Big B's Mod. If someone drops out I will be here.

Thanks and good luck




John 3rd -> RE: 2x2 Set-Up (12/14/2008 12:40:21 AM)

BRIAN! [8D][8D][8D] Damned nice to see you jump in! Hope you are doing well and feeling better. What are the changes you made to 1.5? I'm always up for an updated version.

Michael (NY GIANTS)---you have a lot of attitude regarding Q-Ball and I's lack of computer skills! We will form new ways of 'chastizing' you!

As to House Rules I like what is mentioned; however, I would like the additional strictures regarding turn 1:
1. There will be a very conservative opening Japanese set of attacks. I HATE landing everywhere on turn 1 and will not do it. Like to give you boys a chance to feel like you have at least an opportunity to create some form of defense.
2. Any Port attacks on Dec 7th can only be made by Japanese CV-Based air.
3. Brian runs a higher number of Political Points in his Mod so we have some flexiblity in moving units but to remove units from Manchuria--Korea, China , and India those troops (Allied/Japanese) must be paid for.

Let me review the notes within this AAR for things I hate about the system...

I like the idea of limiting the number of CV planes in any one sea hex. I've seen the number at 450 before. Would that work?

Other ideas/Comments???




ny59giants -> RE: 2x2 Set-Up (12/14/2008 12:41:42 AM)

I will PM Brian for the latest edition and then send it out. 

quote:

Michael (NY GIANTS)---you have a lot of attitude regarding Q-Ball and I's lack of computer skills! We will form new ways of 'chastizing' you!


I still have your home number if I need to "chastise" you. [:D]



John 3rd -> RE: 2x2 Set-Up (12/14/2008 12:41:52 AM)

We are working on an AAR Title right now.  Here are ideas I just sent the guys:

1.  Incredible Victory:  the Japanese Perspective
2.  The First Team:  Japanese Perspective
3.  War Plan Orange:  JP
4.  Rainbow-5:  JP




John 3rd -> RE: 2x2 Set-Up (12/14/2008 12:42:59 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

I will PM Brian for the latest edition and then send it out.


Thank you Michael! Can you make it REAL simple for idiots like Q-Ball and me???



ny59giants -> RE: 2x2 Set-Up (12/14/2008 12:53:43 AM)

quote:

REAL simple for idiots


I think we can add some of these words for your teams title. [:D]



Big B -> RE: 2x2 Set-Up (12/14/2008 1:18:25 AM)

Michael has the goodies...

Good luck guys! (list of changes included)


B



John 3rd -> RE: 2x2 Set-Up (12/14/2008 1:20:58 AM)

Thanks Brian!




Big B -> RE: 2x2 Set-Up (12/14/2008 1:30:08 AM)

Good luck (watch out for those new USN trained Great White Sharks, Feb 42-Jul 42[:D])
Seriously though, it's not radically different...what with AE coming up - then we will see some new mods[;)]
quote:

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

Thanks Brian!






ny59giants -> RE: 2x2 Set-Up (12/14/2008 2:00:49 AM)

Guys,
I have used the email addresses from John's latest PMs to us all to send out 2 PMs.
The first was potential House Rules. Please review and forward any changes.
The second was the newest version of the mod v1.5. I have installed my copy. Please let me know if you need help getting yours up and running.
Michael



John 3rd -> RE: 2x2 Set-Up (12/14/2008 8:26:06 AM)

I just wanted to share that I managed to install Brian's 1.5 Versions without ANY help!  Just doing that (for me) is a victory unto itself.

Let Dan know that I am up-and-running.  Asked him to resend the last turn we played which was the April 1, 1944 turn.  Should get at least one or two in tomorrow as I continue working on our 2x2 game.  Will start a new AAR with that.




John 3rd -> Big B 1.5 (12/14/2008 8:32:42 AM)

Brian:

Can we upgrade to the 1.5 an existing game?  If I Dan and I do that will it screw things up?




n01487477 -> RE: Big B 1.5 (12/14/2008 9:00:41 AM)

I'm not 100% sure, but I thought that all the scenario data was contained in the save file, and it only uses the scenario files when you initially create a new scenario game. So therefore, you should be alright using a different mod version on your game with Dan as long as the map and phex file are the same for both.

Looking forward to the 2X2 game and AAR ... good luck guys

Remember to fill out those air groups [;)]

Who is looking after production ? John let me know when you want me to give you some help if you need it with Tracker...



Big B -> RE: Big B 1.5 (12/14/2008 3:34:43 PM)

Hi John,

No - once a game is started you cannot change scenario data, so I'm afraid the option to update is an Official Matrix Only prerogative.

Only Matrix has the capability to change on-going game stats.
quote:

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

Brian:

Can we upgrade to the 1.5 an existing game?  If I Dan and I do that will it screw things up?






John 3rd -> Big B 1.5 (12/14/2008 4:09:40 PM)

Damian--I want to install tracker.  Where is the download site and what do I do?  I WILL get it done today!

Brian--Thanks for letting me know the answer to that.  Will a 1.4 Mod (Dan and I's be impacted if I've upgraded the rest?

I'm opening the AAR right now and since I haven't gotten any feedback for a title, I will use the Heading of "The First Team."  Those books are some of the finest history I've read in quite a while.  We'll (hopefully) honor Lundstrom with this choice!

Dan just sent me the turn from late-November when we last got one in so we should be playing again in just a bit.




Big B -> RE: Big B 1.5 (12/14/2008 4:19:41 PM)


quote:

Brian--Thanks for letting me know the answer to that. Will a 1.4 Mod (Dan and I's be impacted if I've upgraded the rest?


No, your game with Dan will remain unchanged.[:)]



John 3rd -> RE: Big B 1.5 (12/14/2008 4:32:35 PM)

Good!  I am getting ready to run Dan's turn now.




John 3rd -> Game On! (12/16/2008 7:51:23 AM)

I have gotten everything taken care of with new computer and internet so Dan and I got going again last night.  We got two turns in today and so I will update the AAR after I get some sleep.  It is my intention for the next few weeks to try and play 2-3 turns a day and really get moving again.  It willbe depressing but let us see how far we can get prior to 2009!




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