RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund

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jumper -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (4/17/2008 10:36:07 AM)
And here comes the awaited allied invasion.. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/18/43 The turn started badly as my surface TF was mauled by PTs at Rossel Is. Those pesky boats are out of torps but their machine guns are true DDs killers: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Rossel Island at 58,97 Japanese Ships CL Yubari DD Wakatake, Shell hits 5, on fire DD Sanae, Shell hits 5, on fire DD Hatsukari Allied Ships PT PT-150 PT PT-155 PT PT-159 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Rossel Island at 58,97 Japanese Ships CL Yubari DD Wakatake, Shell hits 7, on fire DD Sanae, on fire DD Hatsukari Allied Ships PT PT-168 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Rossel Island at 58,97 Japanese Ships CL Yubari DD Wakatake, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage DD Sanae, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage DD Hatsukari Allied Ships PT PT-175 PT PT-176 PT PT-177 PT PT-179, on fire PT PT-180 PT PT-182 Both DDs are dead. I doubt they coud reach some safe friendly port.. During the day 2 PTs were sunk by betties.. [:(] Then allied fast transport TF arrived at Thursday Is and US marines stormed the beach. Two modern CLs hit mine in the process: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1051 encounters mine field at Thursday Island (49,90) Allied Ships CL Honolulu, Mine hits 1, on fire CL Denver, Mine hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1051 troops unloading over beach at Thursday Island, 49,90 Allied Ships DD Kortenaer DD Banckert DD Paul Jones DD O'Brien DD Dyson DD Bulmer, Mine hits 1, on fire Allied ground losses: 16 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 702 casualties reported When the day comes, allied bombers once more attacked our garrison at Thursday Is to soften up the defences, while the fast transports retreated: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 43rd Construction Battalion, at 49,90 Allied aircraft Wellington III x 20 Liberator VI x 47 B-17E Fortress x 140 LB-30 Liberator x 26 PB4Y Liberator x 55 B-24D Liberator x 265 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 825 casualties reported I knew the base was lost as both my units were totally destroyed, but at least I had KB on its place. It was clouded in the morning, but the weather got better in the afternoon and KB could finally launch devastating strike against retreating allied ships: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 49,93 Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 5 A6M5 Zeke x 4 D3A Val x 69 D4Y Judy x 20 A6M3a Zero x 26 B5N Kate x 111 E13A1 Jake x 4 Japanese aircraft losses D3A Val: 8 destroyed, 29 damaged D4Y Judy: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged B5N Kate: 4 destroyed, 9 damaged E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied Ships CL Denver, Bomb hits 10, on fire, heavy damage CL Boise, Bomb hits 15, on fire, heavy damage CL Cleveland, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage DD O'Brien, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage DD Vendetta, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage DD Fox, Bomb hits 1, on fire DD Banckert, Bomb hits 2, on fire DD Welles DD Kortenaer, Bomb hits 1, on fire DD Evertsen, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage CL Santa Fe, Bomb hits 3, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 49,93 Japanese aircraft D3A Val x 41 A6M3a Zero x 12 B5N Kate x 72 Japanese aircraft losses D3A Val: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged B5N Kate: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied Ships CL Boise, Bomb hits 9, on fire, heavy damage CL Denver, Bomb hits 31, on fire, heavy damage CL Cleveland, on fire, heavy damage CL Santa Fe, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage DD Dyson DD Pope -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 49,93 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 4 D4Y Judy x 20 A6M3a Zero x 3 B5N Kate x 33 Japanese aircraft losses B5N Kate: 1 damaged Allied Ships DD Bache DD Welles, Bomb hits 1 CL Boise, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage CL Santa Fe, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage DD Aulick, Bomb hits 2, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 49,93 Japanese aircraft D3A Val x 16 B5N Kate x 17 Japanese aircraft losses D3A Val: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged Allied Ships CL Santa Fe, Bomb hits 10, on fire, heavy damage CL Cleveland, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 49,93 Japanese aircraft B6N Jill x 21 Japanese aircraft losses B6N Jill: 3 damaged Allied Ships CL Honolulu, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 49,93 Japanese aircraft D3A Val x 22 No Japanese losses Allied Ships DD Bulmer, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage 5 modern US cruisers were hit hard and 2 of them sinks immedietly. I think those remaining 3 will follow soon. Also some DDs were hit, but PjH has many of them, so he can afford to loose them. But my recons spotted some more ships parked in Thursday Is and identified them as CVs ??? I considered a surface by ships detached from KB, but I think that he will build hordes of PTs there immedietly and there are mines too. With my luck I would hit every single mine which remains there and then got myself mauled by PTs for no gain. I will rather move whole KB closer (5 hexes) to Thursday Is and will limit planes range to 4 hexes. If there are CVs they might react and get into my range. If not, I will not strike some empty AK under Corsair cover.. I have 54 Betties at Lae, and they should finaly join the fray.. [image]http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj119/xcincila/25.jpg[/image] As predicted the Thursday Is falls. PjH unloaded also some paras and they shock attacked the base immedietly: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Thursday Island Allied Shock attack Attacking force 1430 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 205 Defending force 40 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2 Allied max assault: 50 - adjusted assault: 14 Japanese max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 14 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied forces CAPTURE Thursday Island base !!! 3000 men were on the base, but only 40 were in fighting condition..[X(] In USSR I have destroyed another two partisans units: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 67,11 Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 15918 troops, 183 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 413 Defending force 2561 troops, 9 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 56 Japanese max assault: 289 - adjusted assault: 267 Allied max defense: 48 - adjusted defense: 5 Japanese assault odds: 53 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 14 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Allied ground losses: 3691 casualties reported Guns lost 17 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 59,8 Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 8672 troops, 52 guns, 145 vehicles, Assault Value = 192 Defending force 1601 troops, 0 guns, 79 vehicles, Assault Value = 22 Japanese max assault: 184 - adjusted assault: 314 Allied max defense: 16 - adjusted defense: 3 Japanese assault odds: 104 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 19 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 2367 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Vehicles lost 138 This was the last tank brigade near Irkutsk..

castor troy -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (4/17/2008 2:08:23 PM)
Hortlund won´t like it to lose those modern CLs...[:D]

jumper -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (4/18/2008 1:57:42 PM)
Well, I´m sure he will miss them [;)]. The truth is that I don´t understand why he sacrificed them so easily. He certainly have some old Omaha class CLs left which should better for this task. Not so painful to loose them. It is interesting how players handle their TF composition. I pay a lot of attention to what ships I´m using at certain tasks, but it seems that for PjH one CL is the same as other CL. The same with DDs. 5 moder CLs were escorted by unbelievable mix of all availble allied DDs. There were old dutch units, flush decks, old australian DDs and modern US DDs all with endurance from 2500-8000. If "Le Trioumphant" would be still afloat, I´m sure it would be there too.. If I were him I would use only Omaha CLs and flush decks. These are "throw away" types IMO. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/19/43 I know I wrote it already several times, but I realy HATE PTs: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Rossel Island at 58,97 Japanese Ships BB Mutsu BB Yamashiro BB Hyuga CA Myoko CA Mogami CA Mikuma CL Oi DD Maikaze, Torpedo hits 1, on fire DD Isokaze DD Hamakaze DD Nowaki Allied Ships PT PT-150, Shell hits 13, and is sunk PT PT-155 PT PT-159 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Rossel Island at 58,97 Japanese Ships BB Mutsu BB Yamashiro BB Hyuga CA Myoko CA Mogami, Shell hits 1 CA Mikuma CL Oi DD Maikaze, on fire DD Isokaze DD Hamakaze DD Nowaki Allied Ships PT PT-168, Shell hits 3, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Rossel Island at 58,97 Japanese Ships BB Mutsu, Shell hits 1 BB Yamashiro BB Hyuga CA Myoko CA Mogami CA Mikuma CL Oi DD Maikaze, on fire DD Isokaze DD Hamakaze DD Nowaki Allied Ships PT PT-177 PT PT-179, heavy damage PT PT-180 PT PT-182, Shell hits 4, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Rossel Island at 58,97 Japanese Ships BB Mutsu BB Yamashiro BB Hyuga CA Myoko CA Mogami CA Mikuma CL Oi DD Maikaze, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Isokaze DD Hamakaze DD Nowaki, Shell hits 3, on fire Allied Ships PT PT-155, Shell hits 1 PT PT-159 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Rossel Island at 58,97 Japanese Ships BB Mutsu BB Yamashiro BB Hyuga CA Myoko CA Mogami CA Mikuma CL Oi DD Maikaze, on fire DD Isokaze DD Hamakaze DD Nowaki, on fire Allied Ships PT PT-177, Shell hits 12, and is sunk PT PT-179, heavy damage PT PT-180 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Rossel Island at 58,97 Japanese Ships BB Mutsu BB Yamashiro BB Hyuga CA Myoko CA Mogami CA Mikuma CL Oi DD Maikaze, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Isokaze, Shell hits 2 DD Hamakaze, Shell hits 2 DD Nowaki, on fire Allied Ships PT PT-155 PT PT-159 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Rossel Island at 58,97 Japanese Ships BB Mutsu BB Yamashiro BB Hyuga CA Myoko CA Mogami CA Mikuma CL Oi DD Maikaze, on fire, heavy damage DD Isokaze DD Hamakaze DD Nowaki, on fire Allied Ships PT PT-179, Shell hits 13, and is sunk PT PT-180 My battle line engaged his PTs again, again, again and again. They sunk some, but DD Maikaze is heavily damaged. She should make it to Rabaul though.. Then I have finally prepared the ground for my transports: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Rossel Island, at 58,97 Japanese Ships CL Oi CA Mikuma CA Mogami CA Myoko BB Hyuga BB Yamashiro BB Mutsu Allied ground losses: 134 casualties reported Guns lost 13 And marines are pouring from ships: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Rossel Island, 58,97, firing at TF 60 TF 60 troops unloading over beach at Rossel Island, 58,97 70 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships PG Nishho Maru, Shell hits 1 PG Keijo Maru AP Kaisho Maru Japanese ground losses: 783 casualties reported I think I should be able to take Rossel Is back. There is australian bde and part of US div, but with air and naval support I think they are doomed: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Rossel Island Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 1366 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 106 Defending force 10194 troops, 71 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 376 Now I fear his CVs will appear 4-5 hexes south of Rossel Is and will decimate the transports, but all troops should get on ground during the nigh with enough supplies so all I would loose are some transports which I have more then I need. Only surface raiders could cause me troubles. I hope he doesn´t have them ready.. The problem is Thusrday Is. PTs are already there together with some Corsairs on CAP. I´m sure Dakotas are flying in reinforcemnets in hundreds. But as long as KB is loitering around, he can´t get convoys there and it means the base will not be a serious threat for a while. Currently he can anly start dropping paras all around, as there is a lot of empty bases in Coronado range. That woudl be nasty.. [:(] In the a.m. the KB was clouded, but in p.m. phase the weather got better and I have finished some damaged DDs heading to Cairns. Surprisingly those 3 heavily damaged CLs are stil floating and limping slowly to Cairns too. Subs are heading to their estimated path. They were under the the cloud whole day and survived another day and avoided KB. Tommorrow they will be too close to australian bases and with poor coordination on 5 hexes distance I don´t want to risk that some leaking CAP will decimate my unescoretd strikes. So KB will not move closer and I will hope they will go down on themselves: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 50,97 Japanese aircraft D3A Val x 37 D4Y Judy x 38 B5N Kate x 103 B6N Jill x 19 No Japanese losses Allied Ships DD Kortenaer, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage DD Fox, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 49,95 Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 6 A6M5 Zeke x 8 A6M3a Zero x 45 B5N Kate x 23 No Japanese losses Allied Ships DD O'Brien, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 50,97 Japanese aircraft D3A Val x 19 B5N Kate x 17 Japanese aircraft losses B5N Kate: 1 damaged Allied Ships DD Welles, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 50,96 Japanese aircraft D3A Val x 22 B5N Kate x 23 No Japanese losses Allied Ships DD Bulmer, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage I´m not going to counterattack at Thursday Is. Hopefully my "overreaction" at Rossel Is will lead him to conclusion that I will try it, and so he will focus on defence at first rather the quick advance. This should gave me some time to prepare the defensive line. IMO he will try to go to Merauke next and then towards Timor or Amboina and those three small islands north of Darwin. His problem will be lack of air support. Thursday Is and Merauke are max Lvl 4 AF and so it means only 200 planes per base. 4Es can fly only normal range with reduced load and without escort. That is something my fighters can handle well [;)]. If get enough time to organize the defence, I will prepare him a true bloodbath if will try to push his army towards Timor or Amboina.. Time is everything now.. And it won´t change till the end of war..

pauk -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (4/19/2008 10:57:19 AM)
i would say a good stragegy. Fool him as long as posible, pretend that you will attack Thursday. As you mentioned it will give you a time. Also start thinking about your 2nd defensive line (Amboina, Sorong, Bulla..etc), just in case that something went wrong.. a good job indeed.[:)]

jumper -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (4/21/2008 12:44:53 PM)
I´m afraid I can´t fool him long enough. Soon he will realize I´m not going to do anything with this base. It would be insane to try it. There is unbelievable amount of PTs. I have already recognized 7 separate TFs. And as he has operated them in groups of 12 so far and some of those spotted TF has 9+ ships in them I´m afraid it is 7x12 PT waiting there. 84 PTs defending single base!!! Well, even half of this number would make the base off limit to me, unless I would be willing to loose half of my destroyers.. [;)] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/20/43 Last troops left ships at Rossel Is and tommorrow they attack: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Rossel Island, 58,97, firing at TF 60 TF 60 troops unloading over beach at Rossel Island, 58,97 39 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships PG Nishho Maru Japanese ground losses: 496 casualties reported KB and replenishment TF moved as planned through subs infested waters. I was lucky so far, when my capital ships evaded several attacks, but today my luck run out: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 53,94 Japanese Ships AO Erimo, Torpedo hits 1, on fire DD Inazuma DD Akatsuki CS Mizuho Allied Ships SS S-30, hits 4, on fire AO Erimo is moderately damaged and is heading to Gili Gili to pump out the water, before continuing to Rabaul and Japan to repairs. Well, I made a mistake. I limited range of all KB bombers and therefore I thought it is pointless to limit also range for fighters. But I forgot, that CS attached to replenishment TF has Jakes set to naval attack at 5 hexes.. And of course they attacked some CAPed TF leading the escort fighters into the pointless fight. I really love myself in such moments.. [:(] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 49,96 Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 5 A6M5 Zeke x 8 A6M3a Zero x 44 E13A1 Jake x 3 Allied aircraft P-40N Warhawk x 20 P-47C Thunderbolt x 20 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged A6M3a Zero: 14 destroyed, 1 damaged E13A1 Jake: 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-40N Warhawk: 10 destroyed P-47C Thunderbolt: 8 destroyed, 3 damaged Allied Ships DD Pakenham crap.. Then his 4Es attacked Merauke garrison again: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Maizuru 1st SNLF, at 47,87 Allied aircraft B-24D Liberator x 289 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 649 casualties reported Guns lost 4 And surprisingly our landed troops at Rossle Is were targeted too: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 85th Naval Guard Unit, at 58,97 Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 138 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 578 casualties reported Guns lost 7 I have to take the base quickly, otherwise he will destroy my units one by one.. But his troops at Rossel Is were hit today too: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 1st Australian Brigade, at 58,97 Japanese aircraft Ki-49 Helen x 54 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 112 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Tommorrow surface TF of 2 CA and 4 DDs will arrive at Rossel to sink last remaining PTs and bombard the troops to soften the defence. I have also despatched 2 surface raiding TFs from KB escorts and will try to intercept his retreating damaged CLs and some bunch of LRCAPed transport TFs waiting 120 NE of Cooktown. KB is heading to Port Moresby. I will risk one day of halved CAP in exchange of loading new planes as I´m about 30 fighters short and also about 20-30 bombers were lost so far. And then.. I don´t know what to do with then.. Have to think about that.. I expect him to push towards Amboina/Timor, but it will not be easy for him. Only Merauke (max lvl4) can support the advance and as he depends on 4Es he will miss them a lot. I have to garrison all bases, but fortunately there is not so many of them. I´m surprised he hasn´t used small paradrops all around yet. I have noticed in Castors AAR he loves to drop a few men at all bases and consider it as briliant tactic. Maybe I will be spared of that? I hope so, but I doubt it.. Meanwhile it is heating up in India. Now only 10 units are sitting W of Ahmadabad and 19 NW of it, but huge force is flanking from the north through the open fields. I have already identified 18th and 2nd UK divs, 23rd India div, 7th US divs and several chinese corps and india bdes. Also many tanks were spotted, so I think 7th Armoured and both Indian tank units are there. Together with support and artillery about 50 LCUs is on the march.. I have send my bombers to hit him today to keep him attrited a bit with high disruption and supply consumption. Should be a problem to him ro supply his army deep in my territory off the rail or road. I will post pic when I get home.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 18th UK Division, at 24,6 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 15 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 14 Ki-49 Helen x 22 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49 Helen: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied ground losses: 143 casualties reported Guns lost 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 18th UK Division, at 24,6 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 3 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 2 Ki-21 Sally x 2 Ki-49 Helen x 18 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49 Helen: 5 damaged Allied ground losses: 84 casualties reported Guns lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 2nd UK Division, at 24,6 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 18 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 16 Ki-21 Sally x 10 Ki-49 Helen x 37 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged Ki-49 Helen: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied ground losses: 239 casualties reported Guns lost 6 In USSR my engineers and HQ entered the city and tommorrow will launch deliberate attack with all forces (11000 AV). I expect 0:1 and heavy losses, but forts should go down: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Irkutsk , at 59,6 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 63 Ki-21 Sally x 203 Ki-49 Helen x 158 Ki-46-III Dinah x 8 Allied aircraft I-16 Type 24 x 2 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged Ki-49 Helen: 2 destroyed, 9 damaged Allied aircraft losses I-16 Type 24: 1 destroyed Allied ground losses: 448 casualties reported Guns lost 7 Vehicles lost 2 Airbase hits 14 Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 68

pauk -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (4/21/2008 8:20:00 PM)
I'm sorry, sure that ive missed something... regarding PT boats: you have a HR about max number of PTs, right?

jumper -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (4/21/2008 10:21:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pauk I'm sorry, sure that ive missed something... regarding PT boats: you have a HR about max number of PTs, right? I thought we have. It was: "PTs are only defensive weapon. Max 2 TF of 6 boats each is allowed per base. They can be build only in ports lvl 6 and higher." But after the discussion about too many PTs at Rossel Is it seems we have none anymore. I tried to explain that those numbers he had there are insane and against the HR, but despite that he insisted they are reasonable and that this is the right way to go. He said that the mentioned HR limits him to build [&:] max 2 TF of 6 boats in LVL6 port and higher but then he can use them in whatever amount he consider reasonable. I became tired of this "missunderstanding" issue and decided to ignore it and don´t open it anymore. Unless he will start doing PT sweeps out of the base, I will let him use as many PTs at he wants. It takes some fun from the game, but I can live with it. Truly I have no other option.. Some players simply love PTs and small paradrops and won´t let you touch it or take it from them. That is the "dark side" of this game, but to be fair playing against PjH is entertaing in many others aspects and he is sending turns daily. That means a lot, besides the fact that he took the game in very difficult situation for allies without much hesitation and seems willing to kick my as* despite the odds. He is not afraid to risk and on the strategic level of planning he is truly formidable oponent. He found the weak spot immedietly. Much much sooner then I hoped for.. PTs and paras will make my life miserable, but certainly they are not going to win him the war. He will have to show something more then that and that is what I´m really looking forward to. BANZAI!!! [:)]

pauk -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (4/21/2008 10:51:46 PM)
It looks like he has a serious problems.[:D] Oh, boy... But you are right, keep going and kick some ass. BONSAI!

jumper -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (4/22/2008 2:41:07 PM)
Situation in India: [image]http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj119/xcincila/26.jpg[/image] As you can see on the picture, he is trying to flank me from the north now. I had 20th Army south of Ahmadabad with 4 divisions for a long time but now only 10 of his units remains and I think these are just a few understrenghened chinese units. I have divided one divison while I´m pulling 2 divisions east of Ahmadabad. He will still see 5 units there [;)] Another division is leaving Ahmadabad as under current circumstances 15th army with 3 division is enough to hold the place. This way I will have now reserve of 3 divisions which can boost PGI (Panzer Gruppe India) on the north. If he will continue to march to the east, I will use them to stop him, while PGI will cut his supply/retreat path. Or I will use PGI to stop him and these 3 divisions will cut his supply. It will depend on the situation. But no doubt he knows the danger. It is literally offering itselfs when you look on the map, so he must have something ready for me. I wonder what he has up in his sleeves.. He can´t hope the RAF will shift the balance. My air presence is really strong here and he knows it. Besides that I have fresh 46th division on the way from Culcutta to Delphi. It might come handy..

Adnan Meshuggi -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (4/22/2008 3:44:38 PM)
well, if he love to exploit the pts... you could exploit the Army-Bombers on ASW-Duty... i bet he will fast come in with "that is silly, nobody would use 1200 Army-bombers for that". And that is the point you could answer "as long as some others use 90 PTs to defend a small base" it is absolutly okay and sane. Sorry, but this PT-problem would be a gamestopper for me. Fun is okay, but this strategy means he can conquer at will and you loose half of your fleet to wipe em out (for 2 weeks). With or without the difficult situation in the game just my 2cents.

jumper -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (4/22/2008 4:29:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Adnan Meshuggi well, if he love to exploit the pts... you could exploit the Army-Bombers on ASW-Duty... i bet he will fast come in with "that is silly, nobody would use 1200 Army-bombers for that". And that is the point you could answer "as long as some others use 90 PTs to defend a small base" it is absolutly okay and sane. Sorry, but this PT-problem would be a gamestopper for me. Fun is okay, but this strategy means he can conquer at will and you loose half of your fleet to wipe em out (for 2 weeks). With or without the difficult situation in the game just my 2cents. Hi, I agree with you, but can´t do much about it.. We shall se what will happen. It will certainly limit my possibilities, but to be able to use them, he has to conquer the base at first. And it will be harder and harder for him. He can grab Merauke easily yet, but that´s it. Next time he will have to fight hard to achieve something..

jumper -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (4/22/2008 4:30:39 PM)
NG/Solomons situation: [image]http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj119/xcincila/27.jpg[/image]

castor troy -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (4/22/2008 4:49:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Adnan Meshuggi well, if he love to exploit the pts... you could exploit the Army-Bombers on ASW-Duty... i bet he will fast come in with "that is silly, nobody would use 1200 Army-bombers for that". And that is the point you could answer "as long as some others use 90 PTs to defend a small base" it is absolutly okay and sane. Sorry, but this PT-problem would be a gamestopper for me. Fun is okay, but this strategy means he can conquer at will and you loose half of your fleet to wipe em out (for 2 weeks). With or without the difficult situation in the game just my 2cents. I´m sure he wouldn´t mind using 1200 IJA bombers on ASW as this is what he did in our game (until I started a loooong discussion about it) and he ended it only when jumper used KB as sub sweeper. So in his oppinion it is perfectly realistic to use all those IJA bombers on ASW but it is insane to use KB´s Vals on ASW. I really enjoy my game vs him but we have different oppinions 99% of the time! He is never the same oppinion like me and I´m 2% of the time the same oppinion like he is.

jumper -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (4/22/2008 5:14:25 PM)
Ahh.. And paradrops are here.. [;)] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/21/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 52,93 Japanese Ships CV Akagi DD Harukaze DD Kamikaze DD Asakaze DD Yamakaze Allied Ships SS Mingo I was lucky again! Torps missed.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 53,94 Japanese Ships DD Inazuma DD Akatsuki Allied Ships SS S-30, hits 4, heavy damage On the other side S-30 wasn´t lucky at all.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Rossel Island at 58,97 Japanese Ships CA Chikuma CA Nachi DD Michishio DD Arashio DD Yamagumo DD Minegumo DD Asagumo Allied Ships PT PT-155, Shell hits 59, and is sunk PT PT-159 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Rossel Island at 58,97 Japanese Ships CA Chikuma CA Nachi DD Michishio, Shell hits 1 DD Arashio, Shell hits 1 DD Yamagumo DD Minegumo DD Asagumo Allied Ships PT PT-180, Shell hits 11, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Rossel Island at 58,97 Japanese Ships CA Chikuma CA Nachi DD Michishio DD Arashio DD Yamagumo DD Minegumo DD Asagumo Allied Ships PT PT-159, Shell hits 2, and is sunk Last PTs were destroyed finally -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Rossel Island, at 58,97 Japanese Ships CA Nachi CA Chikuma Allied ground losses: 93 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Nothing spectacular, but every bite helps.. And here comes the attack. After several naval and aerial bombardments the defenders were exhausted: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Rossel Island Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 12551 troops, 59 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 365 Defending force 1442 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 92 Japanese max assault: 622 - adjusted assault: 658 Allied max defense: 52 - adjusted defense: 47 Japanese assault odds: 14 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Rossel Island base !!! Allied aircraft losses PBY Catalina: 2 destroyed Japanese ground losses: 189 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Allied ground losses: 1189 casualties reported Guns lost 31 Parts of 32nd USA Div, Australian Bde, 30th Naval BF and whole australian AF eng unit surrendered. Rossel Is is back under the protection of Rising Sun. Banzai! Well, it was just a sideshow and it cost both of us a lot. PjH lost BB, several DDs and AKs and some troops. Oh, and 36 PTs.. I have lost 1 CA, 1 CL and about 8 DDs. And the best part is that now I will load all troops and will evacuate the island so he can have it back tommorrow afternoon. [;)] This time I will leave it in his hands.. Today his 4E beasts destroyed our eng unit at Merauke: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 48th Construction Battalion, at 47,87 Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 102 LB-30 Liberator x 27 B-24D Liberator x 280 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 854 casualties reported Unfortunatelly my surface raiders didn´t find any pray at night. And above all they ended in the range of allied bombers from Cooktown: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 52,98 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 9 TBF Avenger x 12 Allied aircraft losses TBF Avenger: 10 damaged Japanese Ships CA Takao CA Atago Lucky again.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 52,98 Allied aircraft Liberator VI x 6 Allied aircraft losses Liberator VI: 3 damaged Japanese Ships CA Atago, Bomb hits 1 CL Oyodo And again - just a paintscratch.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 51,94 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 2 TBF Avenger x 9 Allied aircraft losses TBF Avenger: 5 damaged Japanese Ships CA Maya And again.. PjH had to be mad at this moment already.. And it was my turn now as one of his AKs eneded too close to KB: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 50,96 Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 4 A6M3 Zero x 5 A6M5 Zeke x 8 A6M3a Zero x 41 B5N Kate x 16 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK Lesuth, Torpedo hits 6, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 49,96 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 6 Allied aircraft P-40N Warhawk x 19 P-47C Thunderbolt x 16 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-47C Thunderbolt: 1 damaged Allied Ships AK Asphalion, Torpedo hits 1, on fire Small group of Betties from Gili Gili sneaked through allied CAP and managed to put one fish onto the AK.. In the afternoon allied aviators took off again: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 52,98 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 7 F4U-1 Corsair x 2 TBF Avenger x 17 P-40N Warhawk x 18 P-38G Lightning x 79 P-47C Thunderbolt x 14 P-70A Havoc x 6 Allied aircraft losses TBF Avenger: 12 damaged Japanese Ships DD Teruzuki CL Oyodo CA Takao Guess what? YES! I was lucky AGAIN! [:D] In India the "Volkswanderung" continues as allied hordes are still heading to the east. And still being bombed by my airforce: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 23rd Indian Division, at 25,6 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 11 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 13 Ki-49 Helen x 12 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 22 casualties reported Guns lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 23rd Indian Division, at 25,6 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 17 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 18 Ki-21 Sally x 6 Ki-49 Helen x 31 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 82 casualties reported Guns lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 125th USA Regimental Combat Team, at 25,6 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 6 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 5 Ki-49 Helen x 5 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 27 casualties reported Guns lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 125th USA Regimental Combat Team, at 25,6 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 4 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 7 Ki-21 Sally x 3 Ki-49 Helen x 6 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 21 casualties reported And here it is. The long awaited attack on Irkutsk. Despite the high morale, low disruption/fatigue and 100% preparation, my AV was quartered.[&:] The losses are ridiculous also, but both these aspects were expected. I have experienced that already during the siege of Chunking: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Irkutsk Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 587080 troops, 6206 guns, 411 vehicles, Assault Value = 11476 Defending force 297152 troops, 3176 guns, 143 vehicles, Assault Value = 5540 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 7 Japanese max assault: 11138 - adjusted assault: 2854 Allied max defense: 5959 - adjusted defense: 10187 Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 7) Japanese ground losses: 33318 casualties reported Guns lost 1001 Vehicles lost 34 Allied ground losses: 6884 casualties reported Guns lost 292 Vehicles lost 5 I have lost about 3500 AV in this attack. It will take a lot of time until I regain strenght for another try. My eng units were totally destroyed again. BUT the forts went down and now only 7 remains!!! [:D] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Irkutsk Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 208379 troops, 2569 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5346 Defending force 575034 troops, 4769 guns, 327 vehicles, Assault Value = 8942 And as both sides were totaly exhausted, his artillery fire didn´t caused any damage. Paradrops: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Wewak Allied Shock attack Attacking force 180 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 13 Defending force 1760 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 9 Allied max assault: 16 - adjusted assault: 2 Japanese max defense: 8 - adjusted defense: 17 Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied ground losses: 27 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Hansa Allied Shock attack Attacking force 230 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 18 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Allied max assault: 16 - adjusted assault: 6 Japanese max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied forces CAPTURE Hansa base !!! He captured Hansa, but there is nothing he can do with it. He will probably capture another empty bases tommorrow. And I will capture them back once my own paras from Rossel Is arrives back in Rabaul. I will with fire against fire.. [;)]

pauk -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (4/22/2008 6:09:07 PM)
Hi Jumper, ground combat sucks - just ask Andy. The problem with big battles is that you are going to get such results always. I was able to stop Allies at Tinian with placing more than then 3000 AV and Andys only hope is starving my troops to death - but i have quite enough supplies there (and of course additional cuning plan[;)]) I hope Irkutsk is cut off supply (dunno, didn't look Russian map recently[:D]), so be patient there. Starve those Ruskies and you will save your country from being subducted (sp?) to communisam (at least in paralel world)[;)]. PTs. Such huge numbers are really rediculus. His bases are now completely protected, both from the air and sea. You will soon find that as a game killer but it's your choice, after all.

Zond -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (4/23/2008 1:28:31 AM)
Hi Jumper. Could you assemble a gang of J2M's and Ki-61's and ambush those 4E monsters? It would be fun! [:D]

jumper -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (4/23/2008 11:32:58 AM)
Pauk - Irkutsk is the last russian base, but unfortunately it receives 2000 supplies/day. He will never run out. He could run out of soldiers eventualy, but never supplies.. [:(] Zond - Merauke is out of range and Rossel Is is retaken and evacuated. I will try to get him tommorrow if he will attack PM, but I´m limited to places where I can use LRCAP. Otherwise I´m toast. If I would put 250 fighters on the base, even with 90% CAP will get hardly 50% in the air. I could shoot down 100 4E but still remaining 500 will flatten the airfield and fighters on ground. LRCAP is my only choice and it has to fly from safe base. It is only Lae and Siador now.. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/22/43 During the night KB arrived at PM succefully and got replacement planes. Now is at full strength again, which is good. What is bad, that I have tried my luck with surface raiders again, misscalculated his intentions and therefore didn´t catch any of his transports. Again. I´m really bad in mid-ocean intercepts.. Above all, allied 4Es were on the naval attack today and my TF was badly mauled finaly. Luck won´t help you if 350 4Es release their bombs upon your ships.. [:(] : -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 51,93 Allied aircraft Wellington III x 3 Liberator VI x 7 B-25C Mitchell x 3 B-25J Mitchell x 6 B-17E Fortress x 10 LB-30 Liberator x 6 PB4Y Liberator x 3 B-24D Liberator x 43 Allied aircraft losses B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged Japanese Ships CL Oyodo, Bomb hits 2 CA Takao, Bomb hits 2 DD Teruzuki CA Atago, Bomb hits 1 DD Akigumo DD Yugumo This was just a prelidium as the main strike arrives short after.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 51,93 Allied aircraft Wellington III x 6 Liberator VI x 36 B-25C Mitchell x 6 B-25J Mitchell x 3 B-17E Fortress x 47 LB-30 Liberator x 4 PB4Y Liberator x 43 B-24D Liberator x 180 No Allied losses Japanese Ships CL Oyodo, Bomb hits 12, on fire, heavy damage DD Akizuki, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage CA Takao, Bomb hits 8, on fire CA Atago, Bomb hits 8, on fire DD Akigumo DD Teruzuki DD Yugumo, Bomb hits 1, on fire DD Akizuki is goner while CL Oyodo will have hard times to reach Darwin. I consider it as goner too.. CA Takao and DD Yugumo are moderately damaged and will head to Darwin too. I don´t know if I should be happy or not. CL Oyodo was a fine ship, but if there wouldn´t be their sacrifice, those 300 4E (more failed to locate their target) could attack KB in port with halved CAP.. KB will leave Port Moresby and will head towards Thursday Is. And then to Darwin eventually.. But I have set a trap at PM. When I had KB there, I have moved 2 sentai of Ki-44 Tojo there to help it with defence. As the KB is leaving I have moved them back to Lae and send all fighters from there to LRCAP PM. His recon planes saw those Tojos in PM and it could force him to attack it. I hope.. Also the transports with troops from Rossel Is were attacked today, but only 1 MSW was lost. Tommorrow they will be out of range.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Deboyne Island at 58,96 Allied aircraft PB4Y Liberator x 12 B-24D Liberator x 7 Japanese Ships CL Kashii, Bomb hits 1, on fire MSW Choun Maru #8 MSW Toshi Maru #7, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AP Daaban Maru AP Kureha Maru #3 The best news are that PjH decided to try to kick me out of Irkutsk. He probably thought that my troops were in much worse shape after yesterdays sloughter. He misscalculated here: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Irkutsk Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 245582 troops, 2716 guns, 53 vehicles, Assault Value = 5382 Defending force 577243 troops, 4802 guns, 331 vehicles, Assault Value = 9062 Allied max assault: 4901 - adjusted assault: 640 Japanese max defense: 6091 - adjusted defense: 4296 Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 8263 casualties reported Guns lost 196 Vehicles lost 5 Allied ground losses: 21128 casualties reported Guns lost 940 This losses will hurt him a lot. Much more then me. Pity I´m not in shape to attack tommorrow. 90% of my engineers are still disabled.. Paradrops: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Merauke Allied Shock attack Attacking force 440 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7 Defending force 847 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 21 Allied max assault: 8 - adjusted assault: 0 Japanese max defense: 13 - adjusted defense: 23 Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied ground losses: 43 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Sarmi Allied Shock attack Attacking force 190 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Allied max assault: 2 - adjusted assault: 2 Japanese max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied forces CAPTURE Sarmi base !!! And his marching armies in India are still under daily attacks: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 45th Indian Brigade, at 25,6 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 6 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 2 Ki-21 Sally x 3 Ki-49 Helen x 11 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 61 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 23rd Indian Division, at 25,6 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 15 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 15 Ki-49 Helen x 14 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 59 casualties reported Guns lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 23rd Indian Division, at 25,6 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 14 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 16 Ki-21 Sally x 9 Ki-49 Helen x 38 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 55 casualties reported

jumper -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (4/26/2008 7:26:53 PM)
Nothing important happened this turn. At least in my version.. PjH saw in replay a lot of action. Fortunately it was just "FoW" as it wouldn´t be good for me. We are probably out of sync.. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/23/43 My bomardment TF arrived at Hansa, but looking at the results they could stay at home. PjH has some Corsairs there and I hoped to destroy them: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Hansa, at 53,83 Japanese Ships DD Kasumi DD Arare DD Natsugumo DD Asashio CL Tama CA Kako CA Kinugasa BB Hyuga BB Yamashiro Allied ground losses: 86 casualties reported PjH is flying in more troops every day and about 1000 men is already there. It may sounds strange, but I´m happy about that. The reason is I have 2 divisions at Truk preparing for Hansa and once I will come to take the base back I want as much prisoners as possible. So I will keep this base suppressed from the sea, will wait about one more week and then I will strike.. Near Thursday Is allied bombers attacked poor DD Akizuki again. I can´t believe this ship is still floating, but it is. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 50,93 Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 5 Allied aircraft P-38G Lightning x 103 B-24D Liberator x 6 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3 Zero: 7 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-38G Lightning: 4 destroyed, 6 damaged Japanese Ships DD Akizuki, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage KB is 120 miles SE of Thursday Is and will continue to the west.

jumper -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (4/27/2008 9:04:38 PM)
Day of mixed results.. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/24/43 I was lucky with allied subs too long. KB was just passing near Thursday Is, when one of many allied subs launched its torpedoes and two of them found their target: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 48,91 Japanese Ships DD Yunagi, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage DD Asanagi DD Nenohi DD Hatsuharu Allied Ships SS Silversides Poor Yunagi went down immedietly.. This time the bombardment was much better.. Good! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Hansa, at 53,83 Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses No Allied losses Japanese Ships DD Kasumi DD Arare DD Natsugumo DD Asashio CL Tama CA Kako CA Kinugasa BB Hyuga BB Yamashiro Allied ground losses: 163 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 7 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 13 Port hits 2 Port fuel hits 1 Port supply hits 10 And here are the events of the day. KB ended at the expected position and because weather was good and float planes spotted many allied TFs in range I expected a lot of action today. To my surprise no strike was launched. At least from my side. KB itself was attacked frequently today: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 47,90 Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 14 A6M3 Zero x 9 A6M5 Zeke x 32 A6M3a Zero x 155 Allied aircraft Liberator VI x 3 P-38G Lightning x 3 B-24D Liberator x 11 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2-N Rufe: 2 damaged A6M3 Zero: 1 damaged A6M5 Zeke: 1 damaged A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged Allied aircraft losses Liberator VI: 3 destroyed P-38G Lightning: 2 destroyed B-24D Liberator: 6 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 47,90 Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 12 A6M3 Zero x 8 A6M5 Zeke x 31 A6M3a Zero x 147 Allied aircraft Liberator VI x 3 B-24D Liberator x 13 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2-N Rufe: 1 damaged A6M3a Zero: 3 destroyed, 11 damaged Allied aircraft losses Liberator VI: 3 destroyed B-24D Liberator: 7 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 47,90 Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 12 A6M3 Zero x 8 A6M5 Zeke x 31 A6M3a Zero x 144 Allied aircraft P-38G Lightning x 13 B-25J Mitchell x 4 B-24D Liberator x 6 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2-N Rufe: 5 destroyed A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed A6M5 Zeke: 7 damaged A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-38G Lightning: 13 destroyed B-25J Mitchell: 4 destroyed B-24D Liberator: 6 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 47,90 Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 7 A6M3 Zero x 7 A6M5 Zeke x 31 A6M3a Zero x 143 Allied aircraft P-38G Lightning x 16 B-25J Mitchell x 3 B-17E Fortress x 31 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2-N Rufe: 1 destroyed A6M3 Zero: 1 damaged A6M5 Zeke: 5 damaged A6M3a Zero: 10 destroyed, 18 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-38G Lightning: 16 destroyed B-25J Mitchell: 3 destroyed B-17E Fortress: 20 destroyed I really don´t know what is wrong. I have checked what missions were selected, if there is enough sorties etc.. etc.., but everything is fine. Despite that the planes are just sitting on the decks doing nothing.. [:@][:(] Maybe I have just lost all possible die rolls.. We shall see tommorrow. Allied transports are aproaching Thursday Is and I´m moving KB just 120 miles NW, so I should be in range.. Interesting (or frustrating) is that Betties from Lae and Siador don´t attack at all too.. [:@] [image]http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj119/xcincila/28.jpg[/image] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 54,95 Japanese Ships CL Oyodo, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Cachalot Heavily damaged Oyodo is near Gili Gili now. Maybe it can be saved? And after a long pause caused by bad weather new strike against Irkutsk is launched. Those 3-4 days were enough for russians to repair all damage and some planes: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Irkutsk , at 59,6 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 51 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 33 Ki-21 Sally x 183 Ki-49 Helen x 144 Ki-46-III Dinah x 7 Allied aircraft P-38G Lightning x 2 I-16 Type 24 x 5 MiG-3 x 3 LaGG-3 x 5 Yak-1 x 13 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 4 destroyed Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 1 damaged Ki-21 Sally: 7 destroyed, 35 damaged Ki-49 Helen: 4 destroyed, 25 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-38G Lightning: 2 damaged I-16 Type 24: 11 destroyed MiG-3: 12 destroyed LaGG-3: 6 destroyed Yak-1: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged SB-2: 1 destroyed Allied ground losses: 722 casualties reported Guns lost 8 Vehicles lost 3 Airbase hits 39 Airbase supply hits 7 Runway hits 315 Losses are unpleasant, but Irkutsk is closed again.. And the India Army is still marching east. And they are still bombed.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 18th UK Division, at 25,6 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 20 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 16 Ki-21 Sally x 4 Ki-49 Helen x 38 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 3 damaged Ki-49 Helen: 7 damaged Allied ground losses: 78 casualties reported Guns lost 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 2nd UK Division, at 25,6 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 3 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 2 Ki-21 Sally x 6 Ki-49 Helen x 11 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged Ki-49 Helen: 2 damaged Allied ground losses: 21 casualties reported

jumper -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (4/27/2008 9:35:05 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/25/43 As predicted several allied TFs entered Thursday Is, while single AK left it and was heading home. I should be happy with todays results, but I´m not. I have still problems with KB as today (a.m. phase) were launched planes only from CVEs, but not a single plane (except fighters) from CVL/CVs (they had the same orders). This is bad. Really bad.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 49,91 Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 2 A6M3 Zero x 16 A6M5 Zeke x 9 A6M3a Zero x 35 B5N Kate x 27 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK Asphalion, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage This was the AK leaving Thursday Is. The whole B5N daitai from CVE Shinyo was wasted on it.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 49,91 Japanese aircraft D3A Val x 27 No Japanese losses And this was D3A daitai from CVE Chuyio trying to attack the same AK.. And that´s it. No more torpedo or dive bomber planes on CVEs so no more strikes. Oh yes, there is 400 of these planes aboard CVs and CVLs, but who cares? Why should they fly? There are just boring allied ships in range.. [:@][:@][:@] At least HALF of my G4M in Lae decided to strike. Every day there are Corsairs spotted flying CAP over Thursday Is, but it is no reason to take escort. Only 4 Zeroes (from 27 availible) take off to escort 26 G4M1 (from 54 availible): -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Thursday Island at 49,90 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 4 G4M1 Betty x 26 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 26 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed, 16 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4U-1 Corsair: 3 damaged Allied Ships DD Monssen, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DM Tracy DM Montgomery, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage - sunk And here comes the p.m. strike from KB. 15 A6M3, 25 D3A and 25 B5N are from CVEs.. From 400 strike planes on the KB decks less then 20 B5N joined the strike.. WTF[:@] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Thursday Island at 49,90 Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 2 A6M3 Zero x 15 A6M5 Zeke x 8 D3A Val x 25 A6M3a Zero x 26 B5N Kate x 43 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 26 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3 Zero: 5 destroyed A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed D3A Val: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged A6M3a Zero: 11 destroyed B5N Kate: 4 destroyed, 12 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4U-1 Corsair: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied Ships AK Bellatrix CLAA Juneau, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage - sunk DMS Dorsey DE Austin, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage KB will stay at the same place till tommorrow. More allied transports is comming, so hopefully we can launch some interesting strike finally.. [8\|] This is "interesting". If I keep the planes at 10000ft, I´m loosing 10-15 per day to AA. If I use them at 20000ft, I´m loosing just 2-3 to AA, but another 10 to ops anyway.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Irkutsk , at 59,6 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 53 Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 6 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 36 Ki-21 Sally x 171 Ki-49 Helen x 143 Ki-46-III Dinah x 7 Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21 Sally: 4 destroyed, 27 damaged Ki-49 Helen: 4 destroyed, 22 damaged Ki-46-III Dinah: 3 damaged Allied aircraft losses Yak-1: 3 destroyed LaGG-3: 2 destroyed P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed Allied ground losses: 362 casualties reported Guns lost 5 Vehicles lost 5 Airbase hits 16 Airbase supply hits 6 Runway hits 210

jumper -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (4/28/2008 12:33:47 PM)
KB strikes are getting better, but are still far away from its capacities.. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/26/43 Damaged AO pumped out all water in Gili Gili and now is heading to Rabaul. And nearly was finished by US sub: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 58,93 Japanese Ships AO Erimo Allied Ships SS Capelin I expect him soon to withdraw his planes from Hansa.. And hopefully to bring more troops.. [;)] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Hansa, at 53,83 Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships CL Tama CA Kako CA Kinugasa BB Hyuga BB Yamashiro Allied ground losses: 269 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 15 Planes from Siador found allied CVs. None made it through but at least I´m warned and know what I´m standing against.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 49,94 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 12 G4M1 Betty x 23 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 116 F6F Hellcat x 21 F4U-1 Corsair x 77 Kittyhawk III x 2 P-40N Warhawk x 11 P-38G Lightning x 82 P-47C Thunderbolt x 9 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 12 destroyed G4M1 Betty: 7 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4U-1 Corsair: 3 damaged Kittyhawk III: 1 destroyed P-38G Lightning: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged P-47C Thunderbolt: 2 damaged Planes from Lae fortunately choosed better target: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 49,91 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 19 G4M1 Betty x 30 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 8 damaged Allied Ships APD Stringham, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage APD Talbot, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage APD McKean APD Colhoun Allied ground losses: 116 casualties reported Guns lost 2 APD Stringham sinks immedietly with part of 1st USMC div aboard.. And that was last attack in a.m. phase and I was desperate. Good weather and NO strike from KB at all again. But then came the p.m. phase and KB woke up finally. Only a handfull planes attacked, but it better then nothing: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 48,91 Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 10 A6M5 Zeke x 8 D3A Val x 21 D4Y Judy x 20 A6M3a Zero x 36 B5N Kate x 16 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 4 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed D3A Val: 2 damaged D4Y Judy: 1 damaged A6M3a Zero: 2 destroyed B5N Kate: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4U-1 Corsair: 2 destroyed Allied Ships AK Algorab DE Gilmore, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage DMS Hovey, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AK Alhena DMS Hamilton, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage AK Electra, Bomb hits 2, on fire AP Manunda, Bomb hits 2, on fire Allied ground losses: 83 casualties reported Vehicles lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 48,91 Japanese aircraft D3A Val x 24 B5N Kate x 24 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 1 Japanese aircraft losses B5N Kate: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged Allied Ships AP Manunda, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage AK Alcyone, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage DMS Hovey, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage DMS Hamilton, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AK Betelgeuse, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Allied ground losses: 208 casualties reported And the p.m. strike from Lae. Again only small part of availible bombers (71 G4M1 is there) took off.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Thursday Island at 49,90 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 17 G4M1 Betty x 11 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 16 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged Allied Ships DMS Dorsey, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage [image]http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj119/xcincila/29.jpg[/image] As it goes this wasn´t exactly a bad turn for me. It could be just much more better if all my planes would fly.. [:(] Neverthless I´m optimistic and prepared a "trap" for the next turn. Allied CVs are heading north and I have decided it is time to risk. I will leave KB where it is one more turn and I have send huge forces to Port Moresby. 5 daitai of J2M Jack, 1 daitai of A6M2, 1 daitai D3A, 5 daitai G4M1, 3 sentai Ki-44-II and 5 sentai Ki-21/Ki-49 is moved to PM with range set to 6. If PjH will continue towards Thursday Is, he will found himself between KB and this force. With a bit of luck it could be enough to crucify him. He has boosted his CAP with many LB fighters, but they should be already fatigued and not so effective. On the other side he can send 1000 4E to bomb PM and crucify me instead. A lot depend on the weather and if he is checking balance numbers daily. Basicaly I have offered him nearly my whole air force in this region on golden plate in a hope that lucky victory will slow him down.. Fingers crossed.. [;)] I´m not leaving PM uncovered btw. 3 sentai Ki-61 and 1 sentai Ki-44 from Lae will fly LRCAP and all fighters in PM are set to 30% CAP. With all P-38 flying LRCAP over his CVs his heavies would come unescorted and I will take a toll on them, despite the fact I wouldn´t be able to stop them.. These are the moments I can´t stand when I get home to run the turn and see what happened.. [:)]

jumper -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (4/28/2008 9:41:06 PM)
Damn it! No turn in my box yet.. [:(] It seems I will have to wait till tommorrow to see the result.. It is frustrating.. [:D]

dennishe -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (4/29/2008 2:51:57 AM)
Good luck! I like this AAR and will keep on following it.

jumper -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (5/2/2008 12:27:45 PM)
Thanks dennishe! Unfortunately the luck was not on my side. On the other hand it wasn´t on PjH side either.. [;)] I will post pics later when I get home. When I get the turn from PjH he told me he spotted my planes in PM (I HATE THIS ISSUE!!!), retreated all his ships and ordered 1000 4E to flatten the AF. I was a bit worried what I will see in replay especially when he told me he also despatched many cruisers to bombard the PM at night - somehow it didn´t come to my mind he could do it[X(][;)] - and I expected heavy losses on my side today: AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/27/43 As expected the night begins with allied bombardment TF arriving at PM. It didn´t work as PjH hoped fortunately: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1044 encounters mine field at Port Moresby (53,91) Allied Ships CA Pensacola, Mine hits 2, on fire DMS Hopkins DMS Lamberton CA Pensacola is damaged and left behind - sentenced to death.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Port Moresby, at 53,91 - Coastal Guns Fire Back! Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed J2M Jack: 1 destroyed Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 1 destroyed 28 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships AG AG-5116, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage AG AG-5113, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage AG AG-5114, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage AG AG-5112, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage AG AG-5052, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage AG AG-5115, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships CA Indianapolis CA Chester CA Salt Lake City, Shell hits 14 CA Vincennes CA Devonshire CA Quincy CA Shropshire Japanese ground losses: 437 casualties reported Guns lost 12 Vehicles lost 2 Airbase hits 5 Runway hits 16 Port hits 12 Port supply hits 8 Excellent!!! No nuke bombardment! Frankly said the result is pathetic. Now I have to survive 1000 4E only.. The sun rises and patrol planes on both sides take off. It takes only a few moments until the best report of the day arrives - australian coast is clouded while PM/Gili Gili/Thursday Is is not and some allied TFs are spotted in range.. [:D] I was jumping in joy all around then room shouting: "The day is mine! Now I will show you how can I fight when all odds are on my side!". It didn´t take long when the joy fade away from my face.. Only small allied raid against Gili Gili was launched. All other missions were canceled: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Gili Gili , at 56,94 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-24D Liberator x 76 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 5 destroyed E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed H8K Emily: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 15 damaged Japanese ground losses: 52 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 8 Airbase supply hits 10 Runway hits 85 Fortunately half of the planes were already in the air (should be all of them.. [:@]). I was in good mood yet as I have expected that this turn I will sink an awfull amount af allied ships so why should I bother with a few Betties torched on ground? There were many allied ships in Thursday Is (good weather) between PM (250 bombers - good weather) and KB (400 bombers - good weather) and I was looking for sloughter. Well, I was disappointed..: 1st wave and only handful of bombers. : -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Thursday Island at 49,90 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 11 J2M Jack x 47 G4M1 Betty x 10 G4M2 Betty x 3 Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 39 Ki-21 Sally x 8 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 33 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed J2M Jack: 6 destroyed, 1 damaged G4M1 Betty: 3 damaged Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 7 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4U-1 Corsair: 26 destroyed Allied Ships AK Libra, Bomb hits 1 AVD San Pablo, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AK Electra, Bomb hits 2, on fire AK Alhena, Torpedo hits 1, on fire Allied ground losses: 130 casualties reported Vehicles lost 1 At least i have whipped the skies with Corsairs.. 2nd strike and only handful of bombers again: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Thursday Island at 49,90 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 3 J2M Jack x 15 G4M1 Betty x 3 Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 10 Ki-49 Helen x 6 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 7 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 3 damaged Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4U-1 Corsair: 6 destroyed Allied Ships DM Ramsay DM Tracy 3rd strike: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Thursday Island at 49,90 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 6 J2M Jack x 23 G4M1 Betty x 4 Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 18 Ki-21 Sally x 6 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 1 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed Allied Ships APD Colhoun, Bomb hits 1, on fire APD McKean APD Sands, Bomb hits 1 "OK" I told myself. "This is just preludium and the MAIN strike will come in every moment.. Maybe a bit later.." 4th strike was from Gili Gili against damaged CA Pensacola: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 53,95 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 15 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged Allied Ships CA Pensacola, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage 5th strike was from PM against damaged Pensacola too. And only a handful of bombers again (which was good as I didn´t want them to waste on already sinking cruiser..): -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 53,95 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 3 J2M Jack x 14 Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 9 Ki-49 Helen x 6 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49 Helen: 2 damaged Allied Ships CA Pensacola, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage After this strike the a.m. phase ends.. I couldn´t belive my eyes!!! WTF!!![&:][:@][:@][:@] Where is the main strike from PM??? Why NOT SINGLE PLANE from KB attacked? What is going on here?[8\|] When the p.m. phase started I was already so disgusted and pied off that I wasn´t surprised when the only action was the long expected main strike (50% availible bombers) from PM against............YES! Against already sinking Pensacola: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 53,95 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 20 J2M Jack x 88 D3A Val x 23 G4M1 Betty x 78 G4M2 Betty x 5 Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 68 Ki-21 Sally x 34 Ki-49 Helen x 48 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49 Helen: 1 damaged Allied Ships CA Pensacola, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage First 10 Ki-21 hit the cruiser with 7 bombes which was enough to send it down finally. All remaining planes were attacking empty sea.. And that was it. No other strike in the p.m. Summary: WITP gives and WITP takes. I was lucky that allied bombarment run made nothing and that his AF was clouded. Despite that I made nearly nothing. The situation couldn´t be better and still I wasn´t able to achieve anything with more then 1000 crack planes availible. Such perfect situation will not be repeated probably anymore..[:(] I admit that my morale is down now.. It is worse than if I would loose all of them in combat. It is really depressing when your planes don´t fly.. It put a bitter taste to all the effort. I could swallow the PM debacle as the AF was overstacked (but somehow I doubt it is the case here) but there is absolutely no excuse why KB is impotent. It is good that PjH is away for weekend as i need a couple of days of rest to get over it.. [;)] KB is retreating to Darwin. There is no need to keep it there. It proved itself worthless during the last week. Planes from PM and Gili Gili are also moved away. If they want to sit on ground they don´t have to do it in range of 1000 4Es. As I said before I have moved new wolfpack of I-boats on his routes between Noumea and Brisbane: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 52,114 Japanese Ships SS I-179, hits 6 Allied Ships AK Jeremiah S. Black, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage DE Burden R. Hastings The transport sinks immedietly with 19 Dakotas on board.. BTW I tried to explain my missery to my GF but her only reaction was: "Excellent! Does it mean you will end this game soon and will spend more time with me?" Oh, those women..** [;)]

jumper -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (5/17/2008 7:18:30 PM)
Hi all, I was on vacation last week and now the game goes on.. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/28/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8 Japanese aircraft Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 24 Allied aircraft Wellington III x 9 Beaufighter VIC x 7 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Wellington III: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Airbase hits 1 PjH is harrassing my base with nigh attacks. It is pretty safe as 90xp night fighters are no danger. Only AA is lucky sometimes.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 57,114 Japanese Ships SS I-17, hits 3, on fire Allied Ships DD Bache, Torpedo hits 1, on fire DD Pakenham DD Nizam Unfortunately nothing serious. US DD will live to fight another day.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 50,92 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 10 G4M1 Betty x 15 G4M2 Betty x 3 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 9 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed G4M1 Betty: 7 destroyed, 1 damaged G4M2 Betty: 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied Ships CA New Orleans AP President Adams CL Concord DD Express -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 49,91 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 9 G4M1 Betty x 3 Allied aircraft Kittyhawk I x 5 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Kittyhawk I: 2 damaged Excellent! [:@] Lae was open the whole day, but no strike was launched. Only Siador base managed to get a few planes to the air. But only about 20% of availible planes.. [8\|] PjH is operating a lot of unguarded transport TFs between Townsville and Thursday Is but my planes still refuse to fly and so he is spared of heavy losses..

jumper -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (5/17/2008 8:01:59 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/29/43 I´m still enjoying a lot of succesfull submarine attacks between Brisbane and Noumea. New wolfpack arrived in the area and results are immediate. Yesterday US DD was hit and today: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 58,114 Japanese Ships SS I-182, hits 5 Allied Ships AK Hobart Baker, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage MSW Warrnambool MSW Horsham MSW Geelong MSW Cessnock MSW Arnidale DMS Elliot -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 56,115 Japanese Ships SS I-181 Allied Ships AO Cimarron, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage SC SC-709 SC SC-708 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 55,114 Japanese Ships SS I-179 Allied Ships AK Robert M. Lafollette, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AK Leland Stanford LCI LCI-334 ML Weehawken Allied ground losses: 59 casualties reported 3 ships were hit today! Banzai! All AF were closed in the a.m., but during p.m. Lae was open and finally launched the strike. Only a small one and against CAPed TF, but I´m celebrating! Losses are acceptable and 3 US cruisers are out of action for a few months.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Thursday Island at 49,90 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 10 G4M1 Betty x 15 G4M2 Betty x 4 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 19 Kittyhawk I x 7 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 11 damaged G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied Ships CL Concord, Torpedo hits 1 CLAA Oakland CLAA Reno, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CLAA Atlanta CA New Orleans, Torpedo hits 1, on fire [image]http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj119/xcincila/30.jpg[/image] I got through those nasty Corsairs nearly for free: 2 A6M2, 1 G4M1 and 1 G4M2 were lost in A-A and another 3 G4M1 were lost due to flak.. KB is retreating to Darwin for some rest and rally. Merauke is heavily reconed and I´m sure it will be invaded soon. I´m not going to defend it. There is only 1 SNLF to prevent easy capture by paras, but that´s all. My main defensive line will be Darwin - Aru Is. - Babo. Here I will make my stand and here I will operate KB in tha near future. I´m reinforcing all bases in this area by availble base forces and NLF/SNLFs but the process is slow. My main combat unit here is 30th division in Darwin (480AV). I´m considering dividing it into regiments and use it to garrison Amboina/Sorong/Babo, but I´m not 100% sure yet. I have ML fleet here also and they are busy with laying minefields all around. In India the situation is calm for now. His armies are still marching and are under daily air attacks, while my defensive line looks solid.

jumper -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (5/17/2008 8:21:55 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/30/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8 Japanese aircraft Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 24 Allied aircraft Wellington III x 13 Beaufighter VIC x 11 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Wellington III: 9 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Interesting composition of allied TF: ASW attack at 56,114 Japanese Ships SS I-182, hits 5 Allied Ships MSW Warrnambool MSW Horsham MSW Geelong MSW Cessnock MSW Arnidale DMS Elliot DD Lardner CL Detroit -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 54,114 Japanese Ships SS I-21 Allied Ships AO Guadalupe - missed this one [:(] SC SC-709 SC SC-708 But the second attack was succesfull: Japanese Ships SS I-21 Allied Ships AK Moses Rogers, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AK Morrison R. Waite AK Louis Joliet AK Josiah Snelling Allied ground losses: 33 casualties reported Hey! A third one: [:D] Japanese Ships SS I-21 Allied Ships AE Lassen, Torpedo hits 1, on fire AK Nathaniel Currier AK Lew Wallace AV Chandeleur I really don´t know how many ships was hit between Noumea and Brisbane so far, but I would estimate something like 20. And from these at least 10 was confirmed sunk. All during one month. And still it didn´t forced PjH to use other route or better escort. Well, I´m not complaining, but he seems really careless with his ships.. Merauke is bombarded by US navy. I smell invasion here.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Merauke, at 47,87 Allied Ships DD Mugford DD Helm DD Ammen DD Abbot BB Massachusetts BB Indiana Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 4 Port hits 2 Port supply hits 5 And Maizuru SNLF in Merauke is hit hard from the air: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Maizuru 1st SNLF, at 47,87 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 8 SBD Dauntless x 33 Avenger I x 9 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 93 casualties reported In Australia one of my guarding NLF was chased away by a bunch of wild kangaroos: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 37,94 Allied Shock attack Attacking force 1560 troops, 0 guns, 106 vehicles, Assault Value = 57 Defending force 613 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 20 Allied max assault: 94 - adjusted assault: 45 Japanese max defense: 17 - adjusted defense: 7 Allied assault odds: 6 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 66 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

jumper -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (5/17/2008 8:52:58 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/31/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8 Japanese aircraft Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 13 Allied aircraft Wellington III x 10 Beaufighter VIC x 9 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Wellington III: 4 damaged Beaufighter VIC: 1 destroyed - First plane in this war shot down by night fighter!!! Runway hits 1 And one of damaged Wellingtons crashed on its way home so today my night fighters shot down 2 allied bombers! And near Brisbane we got another US transport. And 4 other ships damaged during last two days were confirmed sunk today. Some Seabees and Base forces were swimming.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 51,114 Japanese Ships SS I-181 Allied Ships AK Jose Sepulveda, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage AK Lewis Cass LCI LCI-334 Allied ground losses: 39 casualties reported Merauke defenders are hit again: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Maizuru 1st SNLF, at 47,87 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 11 SBD Dauntless x 38 Avenger I x 12 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 24 casualties reported And here comes the invasion. Part of US division stormed the beach: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1085 troops unloading over beach at Merauke, 47,87 Allied Ships MSW Townsville MSW Launceton DD Brooks DD Piet Hein DD Warramunga DD Alden DD Lamson LCT LCT-466, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Allied ground losses: 13 casualties reported Coastal Guns at Merauke, 47,87, firing at TF 1085 5 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships LCT LCT-369 DD Alden Japanese ground losses: 21 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Allied ground losses: 207 casualties reported No way to defend this base. Now I have to speed up building the defences between Darwin and Amboina. I think that PjH will wait with his next step until Merauke airfield will reach Lvl4..

jumper -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (5/19/2008 2:23:48 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/01/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8 Japanese aircraft Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 12 Allied aircraft Wellington III x 9 Beaufighter VIC x 8 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 4 damaged J2M Jack: 2 destroyed Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Wellington III: 8 damaged Japanese ground losses: 20 casualties reported Airbase hits 1 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 4 Hmm.. This is disturbing. I have lost 4 planes today, destroyed on ground. Nothing serious, but I don´t like it. Yesterdays success of my night fighters was probably just a lucky shot as today they didn´t make anythink again.. Mearauke is hit hard, but this time I´m fine with it. I can´t hold it so I hope it will be damaged as much as possible.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Merauke, at 47,87 Allied Ships CL Montpelier CL Concord BB Massachusetts BB Indiana Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 5 Runway hits 33 Port hits 11 Port supply hits 21 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Merauke, at 47,87 Allied Ships DD Paul Jones CL Columbia CA Wichita DD Dunlap CA Hawkins DD Vampire DD Dyson CL Raleigh DD Lamson DD Rathburne DD Brooks DD Warramunga DD Alden DD Wilson CL Adelaide DD Piet Hein CL Mobile Airbase hits 4 Airbase supply hits 4 Runway hits 57 Port hits 7 Port supply hits 19 And near Brisbane we achieve another hit [:D] : -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 48,114 Japanese Ships SS I-23, hits 3 Allied Ships AK James B. McPherson, Torpedo hits 1, on fire MSW Warrnambool MSW Horsham MSW Geelong MSW Cessnock MSW Arnidale DMS Elliot DD Lardner CL Detroit Gili Gili and Port Moresby are being suppressed: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Gili Gili , at 56,94 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-24D Liberator x 86 Japanese aircraft losses H8K Emily: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 18 damaged Japanese ground losses: 14 casualties reported Airbase hits 13 Airbase supply hits 6 Runway hits 97 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft Wellington III x 27 Liberator VI x 68 F-5A Lightning x 6 B-17E Fortress x 231 LB-30 Liberator x 43 PB4Y Liberator x 85 Japanese aircraft losses E7K2 Alf: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Wellington III: 1 damaged Liberator VI: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged B-17E Fortress: 6 damaged LB-30 Liberator: 2 damaged PB4Y Liberator: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 130 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Airbase hits 65 Airbase supply hits 16 Runway hits 527 PjH has to keep both bases suppressed. It ties up a significant portion of his bomber force and this is good for me. And it is not cheap either. These strikes must burn his supplies by thousands and op losses are also welcomed benefit. Merauke garrison was annihalated by this strike: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Maizuru 1st SNLF, at 47,87 Allied aircraft B-24D Liberator x 352 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 286 casualties reported PM and Gili-Gili are closed, but Lae and Siador are active: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 50,92 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 27 G4M1 Betty x 40 G4M2 Betty x 6 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed, 31 damaged G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged Allied Ships DD Mugford, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Helm DD Meade, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage - sinks! DD Maury DD Express DD Van Ghent DD Ammen DD Philip Truly deadly AA from just a few DDs.. Wrong target here. This time Corsairs took their toll: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Thursday Island at 49,90 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 18 G4M1 Betty x 4 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 41 Spitfire Vb x 8 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 15 destroyed - ouch! G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Spitfire Vb: 1 damaged Another attack on Irkutsk. Failed, but forts went down. He had forts lvl8 again [X(]! 2-3 days of bad weather allowed to repair all damage and build new forts.. After a weeks of constant attacks. [:@] Well, he had probably only a few % left to finish it, but still.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Irkutsk Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 568559 troops, 5070 guns, 360 vehicles, Assault Value = 10465 Defending force 271417 troops, 2215 guns, 149 vehicles, Assault Value = 4016 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 7 Japanese max assault: 10125 - adjusted assault: 3568 Allied max defense: 4204 - adjusted defense: 6365 Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 7) Japanese ground losses: 20859 casualties reported Guns lost 771 Vehicles lost 55 Allied ground losses: 6079 casualties reported Guns lost 222 Vehicles lost 10 Losses are heavy, but there is nothing else I could do. I wonder if I will ever be able to conquer the base. Merauke falls. No surprise here as no defenders left: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Merauke Allied Shock attack Attacking force 1896 troops, 24 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 181 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1 Allied max assault: 164 - adjusted assault: 80 Japanese max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 80 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied forces CAPTURE Merauke base !!! Japanese ground losses: 785 casualties reported Guns lost 5 So now PjH has two bases on NG (Thursday Is and Merauke). It will take some time until he builds them, but it certainly opens new possibilities for him. Fortunately there is still not much of them: 1. he can push towards Darwin-Timor-Amboina 2. he can attack Port Moresby and Gili Gili The first one is expected. It is logical step as otherwise there would be no point in taking Merauke. He could gather a lot of LCUs now and attack several bases at the same time. He needs to get just one and once he will have it, it will be crack in my defense in very dangerous area. I will focus myself here in the near future. Currently only KB is real deffence here (parked in Darwin). Planes and troops are on the way but I will need at least 1 month to feel comfortable here..

jumper -> RE: Rising Sun or Sunset? - Jumper vs Panzerjaeger Hortlund (5/19/2008 5:11:10 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/02/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8 Japanese aircraft Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 17 Allied aircraft Wellington III x 14 Beaufighter VIC x 5 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 damaged Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 4 destroyed J2M Jack: 1 destroyed Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Wellington III: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 7 casualties reported Airbase hits 1 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 7 Oops! Such losses are more then disturbing. I hope this was just a lucky die roll. At least my nigh fighters shot down another Wellington.. Muhehe.. [:)]: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 58,114 Japanese Ships SS I-168, hits 3 Allied Ships AK Steel Ranger, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AK Fairfield City AK Irenee Du Pont AK Charles H Cramp SC SC-750 SC SC-749 SC SC-521 SC SC-519 Allied ground losses: 66 casualties reported Pjh started to use proper escort finally, but still I´m able to achieve something.. And not only near Brisbane. I have sneaked one sub directly into Thursday Is harbor: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Thursday Island at 49,90 Japanese Ships SS I-175 Allied Ships DMS Hopkins, Torpedo hits 1, on fire DMS Lamberton No biggie, but every hit is good.. For the next turn I have set up trap over Port Moresby. I have noticed that some air missions in Cairns and Cooktown were canceled and as PjH is using these bases for attack Gili Gili and PM, I expect new big raid tommorrow. I can defend Gili Gili, but PM is in range from Lae, so I have set 450 fighters to LRCAP PM. PjH doesn´t bother himself to use escort as thanks to the free allied intel he can see if I send some planes there, but he can´t see LRCAP. If everything will work tommorrow, several unescorted 4E will run into the cream af IJAAF and IJNAF and will be massacred. Fingers crossed.. [;)]

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