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Prince of Eckmühl -> Chinese Olympic Website features Pirated Game (3/10/2008 12:13:41 AM)

Visit the Olympic website and check out the game titled "Fuwa:"

http://en.beijing2008.cn/funpage/

Then read about where it came from:

http://www.thepencilfarm.com/blog/2008/02/snow_day_at_the_beijing_olympi.html

All I can say is watch out Matrix! [;)]

PoE (aka ivanmoe)



marcusm -> RE: Chinese Olympic Website features Pirated Game (3/10/2008 12:25:50 AM)

More likely the developers stole his code and the Olympics Committe are ignorant
to the fact. I suspect his cease and desist letter will have the desired effect.

It also says something about the qualities of Action Script code [;)]



PunkReaper -> RE: Chinese Olympic Website features Pirated Game (3/10/2008 12:27:49 AM)

Looks like his game with added designer drugs....ideal for the olympics



Terminus -> RE: Chinese Olympic Website features Pirated Game (3/10/2008 1:58:30 AM)

I hope you're not surprised at this. The Chinese see nothing wrong with stealing other peoples' stuff and presenting as their own.



ORANGE -> RE: Chinese Olympic Website features Pirated Game (3/10/2008 2:59:53 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Terminus

I hope you're not surprised at this. The Chinese see nothing wrong with stealing other peoples' stuff and presenting as their own.

Well they will when they have stuff that can be stolen. Then they will be lawsuit happy.



sullafelix -> RE: Chinese Olympic Website features Pirated Game (3/10/2008 3:20:04 AM)

It is almost impossible to purchase legal software in Russia or China from reports going back more than a few years. His cease and desist order will do nothing, is my guess. The real pirates are the whole businesses that churn out thousands of illegal copies per day. I remember one game reporter going to IC's office ( IL2 etc. ) and having three or four street shops setup right outside their office selling anything in software you wanted.




Prince of Eckmühl -> RE: Chinese Olympic Website features Pirated Game (3/10/2008 3:45:34 AM)

I don't know about the Chinese, but the Russians will DEFINITELY punish software piracy so long as the publisher is Russian. It's my understanding that EVERYTHING else is fair game. The moral of the story is that you need to find a Russian publisher for your proggy if you ever want to be paid by the Russians who may choose to use it.

PoE (aka ivanmoe)



fengjian -> RE: Chinese Olympic Website features Pirated Game (3/10/2008 6:52:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Terminus

I hope you're not surprised at this. The Chinese see nothing wrong with stealing other peoples' stuff and presenting as their own.

no true.



marcusm -> RE: Chinese Olympic Website features Pirated Game (3/10/2008 11:22:33 AM)

Starforce is after all Russian :).
I think the whiners were from elsewhere.

If you think Chinese are alone in stealing intellectual property then you are wrong.
Just look at that Bee movie. Dreamworks blatantly stole the idea the original creators.

This is legio in the creative world I would say. Everyone steals and "re-inteprets".





Hertston -> RE: Chinese Olympic Website features Pirated Game (3/10/2008 12:25:16 PM)

@ fengjian,

Hiya.. didn't know we had any Chinese posters here. At the risk of straying off-topic, which might not be a bad thing anyway, could you tell us something about the wargaming hobby there? Do many Chinese play computer wargames? Are some published there, maybe concerning conflicts which don't get represented in games by Western publishers, or do you mainly import games published by folks like Matrix, HPS and Battlefront?

P.S. Hope the winter isn't treating you too harshly; I see it's been a particularly bad one in China this year. [:(]



fengjian -> RE: Chinese Olympic Website features Pirated Game (3/10/2008 2:27:55 PM)

Hope the winter isn't treating you too harshly; I see it's been a particularly bad one in China this year.

Thanks Hetrston
Although the cold this winter, But now that spring is here.

Do many Chinese play computer wargames?
sorry,I don't know the exact figures.

do you mainly import games published by folks like Matrix, HPS and Battlefront?

I like the following：
Matrix-2by3: wir
hps:pzc
Battlefront:cm



Grell -> RE: Chinese Olympic Website features Pirated Game (3/12/2008 2:50:06 PM)

Hi Fengjian,

That's great, glad to hear it.

Regards,

Grell



*Lava* -> RE: Chinese Olympic Website features Pirated Game (3/13/2008 12:40:53 AM)

Personally...

I think there are far greater issues with China than whether or not they pirated a video game.

Ray (alias Lava)



SemperAugustus -> RE: Chinese Olympic Website features Pirated Game (3/13/2008 2:46:41 PM)

I don't think piracy is a particularly Chinese problem, neither is intellectual property theft. Just think about the cost of a game vs average income in particular country, no one is going to spend a months salary on a game...

There are companies that have managed to survived in this kind environment:
Gamasutra article



dinsdale -> RE: Chinese Olympic Website features Pirated Game (3/13/2008 8:59:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: marcusm

Starforce is after all Russian :).
I think the whiners were from elsewhere.

If you think Chinese are alone in stealing intellectual property then you are wrong.
Just look at that Bee movie. Dreamworks blatantly stole the idea the original creators.

This is legio in the creative world I would say. Everyone steals and "re-inteprets".




But not everywhere in the world makes it so easy to pirate, or has government departments running on pirated versions of Windows. The level of intellectual property theft in China effectively closes the market to legitimate copies.



marcusm -> RE: Chinese Olympic Website features Pirated Game (3/13/2008 11:38:19 PM)


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But not everywhere in the world makes it so easy to pirate, or has government departments running on pirated versions of Windows. The level of intellectual property theft in China effectively closes the market to legitimate copies.

Well I have seen pirated software in British govt organizations(no names) so noone is perfect ;).

I don't doubt you but I think that is one of the reasons why they are moving over to Linux and Open office in many Chinese govt organizations. That is in fact happening in many EU public organizations as well (including UK).






PunkReaper -> RE: Chinese Olympic Website features Pirated Game (3/14/2008 1:27:40 AM)

quote:

Marcusm
Well I have seen pirated software in British govt organizations(no names) so noone is perfect ;).


Stop trying to destroy my faith in the Britsih Government. I can't believe they would do anything unethical......[:D][:D]



marcusm -> RE: Chinese Olympic Website features Pirated Game (3/14/2008 2:05:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Punk Reaper

quote:

Marcusm
Well I have seen pirated software in British govt organizations(no names) so noone is perfect ;).


Stop trying to destroy my faith in the Britsih Government. I can't believe they would do anything unethical......[:D][:D]


Probably due to weak software asset management rather than any devious plan ;). Plus many also have a very liberal approach to the term "shareware". This is probably the most common type of piracy in any corporation.



dinsdale -> RE: Chinese Olympic Website features Pirated Game (3/14/2008 5:35:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: marcusm


quote:


But not everywhere in the world makes it so easy to pirate, or has government departments running on pirated versions of Windows. The level of intellectual property theft in China effectively closes the market to legitimate copies.

Well I have seen pirated software in British govt organizations(no names) so noone is perfect ;).

I don't doubt you but I think that is one of the reasons why they are moving over to Linux and Open office in many Chinese govt organizations. That is in fact happening in many EU public organizations as well (including UK).





"No one is perfect" is a long way from what goes on in China where piracy and manufacture of fake trademarks ranges from actively encouraged to not enforced.

It's not one of the reasons for moving to Linux, that's a movement of servers not desktop clients where Windows is wholly dominant.



marcusm -> RE: Chinese Olympic Website features Pirated Game (3/14/2008 3:47:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: dinsdale


quote:

ORIGINAL: marcusm


quote:


But not everywhere in the world makes it so easy to pirate, or has government departments running on pirated versions of Windows. The level of intellectual property theft in China effectively closes the market to legitimate copies.

Well I have seen pirated software in British govt organizations(no names) so noone is perfect ;).

I don't doubt you but I think that is one of the reasons why they are moving over to Linux and Open office in many Chinese govt organizations. That is in fact happening in many EU public organizations as well (including UK).





"No one is perfect" is a long way from what goes on in China where piracy and manufacture of fake trademarks ranges from actively encouraged to not enforced.

It's not one of the reasons for moving to Linux, that's a movement of servers not desktop clients where Windows is wholly dominant.


Moving to Unbuntu fast as we speak (I sort of work in a firm with knowledge in this matter).
Just wanted to say that Public companies are notoriously bad at keeping track. Not because they can't afford it
but they lack will. It's very hard to be too hard on them as well becuaue they are damn good payers and solid customer base.





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